Kielce: pedofil zwabił i wykorzystał dwoje dzie...

[pc486]

Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.

[create]

pc486 twój mózg taktuje tak samo wolno jak twój procesor.

Ale ten pedofil wabił też dziewczynki

[zupa_wolowa]

Czy to wam nie burzy prostego świata pod tytułem "gej+pedofil"?

Tak naprawdę pedofile nie są ani homo ani hetero. Sa pedofilami. Mieszanie do
tego zaburzenia orientacji seksualnej jest poważnym nadużyciem.

Przeciez do ciemnoty nie dotrze, ze pedofilowi

[lze_elita]

wsio rawno, bo rajcuje go wylacznie niedojrzale plciowo dziecko. A z
nastolatkiem/nastolatka powyzej 15 lat w Polsce jest legalny sex zarowno hetero-
jak i homoseksualny, choc mnie osobiscie nie ruszaja takie zielone jabluszka.

Brawo Owsiak! Brawo Michnik!

[gazetajudasza]

Ta sa wymierne SUKCESY w deprawacji Polakow.
Oczekujemy nagrody dla popularyzatorow od
miedzynarodowych organizacji.
Gratulacje dla Michnika i Owsiaka.
No i ROBTA CO CHCETA !!!!!!!

Ale ty glupi:) Pedofili za komuny "nie bylo", bo

[lze_elita]

zadna gazeta o tym nie pisala? A kto mnie z kolegami z podstawowki po Parku
Skaryszewskim ganial? I komu w koncu wspolnymi silami, gdysmy ciut podrosli,
musielismy dac zdrowo w morde?

zasługi dla postępu, dla jewropy !

[dvoryanin]

Tobie chyba nie staje... n/t

[lze_elita]

[...]

[miliarder]

Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.

A CO sie dzieje? Bo ja nic niepokojacego nie widze

[lze_elita]

W przeciwienstwie do slawnej juz w Europie ksenofobii, homofobii i rasizmowi w
Polsce:)))

aaaa rasizm bo w PL jest stado murzynow :)))))))))

[bekon6]

Wystarczy do tego polska milosc do Zyda i Cygana

[lze_elita]

Nie rznij glupa, bo caly swiat was juz przejrzal:)))

o boze rece opadaja ale infantylizm

[bekon6]

To nie nazywa sie "infantylizm", boczku:)

[lze_elita]

To sie nazywa antynazizm:)

ze co prosze? :D

[bekon6]

gadka o zboczencach a ten od razu o murzynach

[bekon6]

typowe zamazywanie tresci przez zboczencow - odkoloryzowac sie

Jesli to ojca dwojga dzieci zboczencem nazywasz...

[lze_elita]

To sam musiales wymienic pierscionki zareczynowe z KOZA:)))

[kasjan69]

> czy ty masz klapki na oczach i nie widzisz co sie dzieje w Holandi?

A co się dzieje w Holandii?
Zalegalizowano pedo- i zoofilię?

[...]

[bekon6]

Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.

A GDZIE to niby legalizuje sie pedofilie? Podaj

[lze_elita]

jakies dane (poza Koranem i malzenstwem Jagielly z Jadwiga).

w Holandii

[miliarder]

partia pedofilów pcha sie do parlamentu i domaga
obnizenia wieku dzieci do 12 lat,

pozwolili na pedałów, pozwolą i na pedofili

[kasjan69]

W Holandii stosunki homoseksualne są dozwolone??? Ale numer, to prawie tak jak
w Polsce.
A o tym "toku" to nic nie słyszałem, chętnie bym się dowiedział czegoś więcej.

no coz uszy zamykamy na widomosci ze swiata

[bekon6]

:)))))) dobrze dobrze

[kasjan69]

Nie tyle "zamykam uszy", co poprostu dawno nie słuchałem Radyja i nie wiem, co
im się tam znowu uroiło.

[mark.parker]

bekon, czy nie jesteś przypadkiem "czarny inaczej", czyli coś typu tzw. prałata
Jankowskiego?

Mysle, ze cos w tym jest - tu masz dowod: chce

[lze_elita]

krzesla elektrycznego dla pan, ktore - dajmy na to - zlapia cie pieszczotliwie,
za to gwaltem, za jaja:
forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=902&w=44563779&a=44566717

[rmk28]

Lamanie tabu pedofili forumhumanitas.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=348

O traumatycznym dziecinstwie / PTSD i inne rzeczy na ten temat forumhumanitas.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=304

[terence]

żadnej dystynkcji w rozumowaniu pc486... Tobie się wszystko z homoseksualistami
kojarzy? masz jakiś problem? frustracja? dawno nie kochałes się z dziewczyną? a
może brak Ci miłości? wiesz to takie pozytywne uczucie które lepiej nastraja do
świata...

[moher75]

> może brak Ci miłości? wiesz to takie pozytywne uczucie które lepiej nastraja
> do świata...

Pozytywnie nastawieni tu nie zaglądają...
To forum dla frustratów

[rmk28]

pc486 napisał:

> demokraci.pl TAK dla rownosci homoseksualistow, pedofili, nekrofili i
> zoofili!!!!


Gazeto!
Zacznij usuwac posty tego typu, bo inaczej jakas organizacja lub prywatna osoba
pozwie cie do sadu

Predzej zabanuja ciebie, ze im w kreowaniu obrazu

[lze_elita]

Polaka - ciemniaka, homofoba i rasisty przeszkadzasz; to sie juz tutaj nie
jeden raz zdarzalo.

[pc486]

niby czemu pozwie, parady rownosci jaki maja cel? Propagowanie orientacji
seksualnych ktore sa w mniejszosci i generalnie nie zachwycaja. Moim zdaniem
wszystkie te orientacje ktore wymienilem sa do siebie podobne. Jezeli sie nie
myle demokraci.pl jak najbardziej sa za marszami rownosci itp wiec ich tutaj
uzywam, moglo by byc rownie dobrze sld...

[mark.parker]

pc486 napisał:

> niby czemu pozwie, parady rownosci jaki maja cel? Propagowanie orientacji
> seksualnych ktore sa w mniejszosci i generalnie nie zachwycaja. Moim zdaniem
> wszystkie te orientacje ktore wymienilem sa do siebie podobne. Jezeli sie nie
> myle demokraci.pl jak najbardziej sa za marszami rownosci itp wiec ich tutaj
> uzywam, moglo by byc rownie dobrze sld...

Masz prawo do własnych poglądów, nawet ciasnych (od ciasnego moherka), ale
dobrze by było, gdybyś się trochę poduczył, a zrozumiesz różnicę między
orientacją a zboczeniem. Ja też mam prawo do własnych poglądów, że Twoje są
zboczeniem, bo żaden zdrowy na umyśle człowiek nie myli pojęć, które Ty mylisz :))

[pc486]

widzisz 10 lat temu, albo troche wiecej, o homoseksualizmie tez mowiono
zboczenie - teraz jest to orientacja... wiec nie obrazaj mnie, bo to ty
wychodzisz na nieuka nie umiejacego wyciagac logicznych wnioskow.

A 600 lat temu to Slonce okrazalo Ziemie :)))

[lze_elita]

Ale masz argumenty...

[pc486]

za to ty masz wilekie argumenty ze hoho, pogratulowac intelektu.

cheers

Negujesz postep nauki:)

[lze_elita]

[pc486]

nie neguje stwierdzam logicznie fakt iz nekrofilia, pedofilia, homoseksualizm
itp itd to wszystko wg powyzszych kryteriow sa orientacje seksualne. Bo nie
wyrozniajmy jednych zboczen od innych...

[wari]

pc486 napisał:

> nie neguje stwierdzam logicznie fakt iz nekrofilia, pedofilia, homoseksualizm
> itp itd to wszystko wg powyzszych kryteriow sa orientacje seksualne. Bo nie
> wyrozniajmy jednych zboczen od innych...
To zupełnie różne rzeczy. Homoseksualizm, podobnie jak heteroseksualizm,
zakłada wzajemność uczuć, tzw. wzajemną miłość erotyczną. W przypadku pedofilii
czy nekrofilii nie może być mowy o czymś takim. Nekrofilia to typ masturbacji
ciałem martwego człowieka, pedofilia to jednostronne uzyskiwanie satysfakcji
seksualnej z dzieckiem (pedofila "bierze" bezbronnośc i nieświadomość dziecka.
Redukowanie homoseksualizmu do czynności seksualnej bez uczuć jest tak samo
nieodrzeczne jak czynienie tego w stosunku do heterosekualizmu.

A kto ci powiedzial, ze to CEL tych parad?

[lze_elita]

Zawsze myslalem, ze w Polsce i innej dziczy to manifestacja zadan zrownania
praw z heterykami. A w krajach cywilizowanych - dobra zabawa dla wszystkich,
jak w Londynie - by daleko nie szukac:)

[pc486]

widzisz gdyby chodzilo tylko o zabawe to nie robiono by we wszystkich mediach
ogromnej kampani na ww temat, bo jakos nie widze parominutowych relacji z
dozynek, badz wiekszej dyskoteki w ktorej bierze udzial podobna ilosc ludzi...

Czekaj - w UK poza wzmianka kiedy niczego na

[lze_elita]

temat londynskiej parady gejow nie ma - jaki huczek? A u was chodzi nie o
zabawe, ale o PRAWA GEJOW (nasi je maja, podobnie jak konkubinaty hetero -
rejestracja zwiazkow partnerskich z prawami materialnymi malzenstw).

[pc486]

mowisz ze maja, a dzieci moga sobie juz adoptowac? Jezeli nie, to jeszcze ich
nie maja... ale poczekaj rok, dwa...

Dzieci mogli adoptowac od dawna, u nas jest

[lze_elita]

dopuszczalna adopcja przez osoby samotne, od wiekow, co sie zreszta sprawdzalo -
sierotki dziedziczyly i nazwiska, i majatki.

[pc486]

no ja pisze o adopcji przez malzenstwa homoseksualne, jasniej nie potrafie tego
napisac

Chyba tez maja. Jak maja to prawo hetero-

[lze_elita]

konkubinaty. I zawsze je mialy.

[pc486]

no to przeprasza, nie wiedzialem - dzieki za info

cheers

sku..syna wykastrowac

[piekny_romanek]

po kiego ch..a sie z takimi cackac - upie..c ch..a razem z jajami, 100%
skutecznosci

Zgadzam się

[zupa_wolowa]

Niestety, tzw. obrońcy praw człowieka mogą trochę skrzeczeć.
Sama kastracja wydaje się jednak złym pomysłem. Należałoby jeszcze obciąć samo
narzędzie zbrodni.

[pe1]

> Sama kastracja wydaje się jednak złym pomysłem. Należałoby jeszcze obciąć samo
> narzędzie zbrodni.

znaczy ten nóż, którym groził?

*** kastrować ***

[alkud]

I tyle,

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religiapokoju.blox.pl/2006/07/Prawie-jak-Shakira.html

[123zly]

I obcinać wiadomo, co...

[zupa_wolowa]

w końcu to nie jadrami człek gwałci...

Bzdura - seks pedofilski rzadko polega na seksie

[lze_elita]

typu doroslego, na pelnym stosunku - to zwykle, o ile wiem, jakies ocieractwa
itp., ale jest tu z nami psycholog, r-cos tam z numerkiem - moze pomoze to
dookreslic.
Rzecz jasna pedofilii nie nalezy mieszac z gwaltem na dziecku - np. po pijaku
na wlasnej coreczce w zastepstwie zony.

nie broń pedoflii bo nawet większość lewactwa cie

[dvoryanin]

nie poprze, aż tak nienormalni nie są !

Nie bronie - stwierdzam psychiatryczne fakty.

[lze_elita]

Nb. dlatego sa tak dla dzieci niebezpieczni - dzieciak nie do konca zlo w
zachowaniu "wujka" czy "cioci" widzi, nie jest pewny, nawet czesto pedofila
kocha i go broni. Zlo wylazi dopiero gdy dzieciak dorosnie i wlasne zycie
seksualne niezbyt mu sie uklada z powodu przezyc z dziecinstwa.

Jak masz dzieci (??) to wystaw je na próbę dla

[ogromnejadra]

"kochające inaczej". Albo lepiej - sam zastosuj "ocieractwa", przecież to takie
niewinne.

[thornat]

zgadzam się kastrować ! ale tylko recydywistów żeby nie było pomyłek typu : on
był niewinny...

a skojażenia pedofil=gej świadczą tylko o ciemnocie polaków ( bez urazy sam
jestem polakiem :p )
a poza tym mieszkam w Kielcach LOL może też jestem pediatrą ? albo cyklstą ? lub
innym zboczeńcem...

[jollyroger3]

To poczytaj sobie co znaczy określenie encyklopedyczne "pederastia".......
a co ten "wesołek"...
Pewnie ktoś uwierzy że "geje" to nie pederaści.....

[ready4freddy]

jak juz sie bedziesz zaglebial w ten niewatpliwie pasjonujacy cie temat,
doszukaj sie jeszcze, jak zmienialo sie znaczenie, a raczej zastosowanie slowa
"pederastia" na tzw. przestrzeni dziejow. np. kiedys oznaczalo seks analny -
obojetnie, homo czy hetero.

Zastanow sie co piszesz? Demokracji sa za prawami

[jacek230]

dla pijanych wariatow, ktorzy wabia dzieci do piwnic po to zeby sobie podotykac
ich orany plciowe? Moze jeszcze dodasz, ze sa za zjadaniem ich w postaci macy w
tych piwnicach? I tylko w Kielcach? Kretynizm niektorych nie ma granic.

wszystkich zbokow na szubienice !!!

[bekon6]

A bekona zawiesic najwyzej! n/t

[lze_elita]

w sumie oddal bym zycie jakby nie bylo zbokow w

[bekon6]

PL a ty?

A co mnie zboki obchodza? Jestem dosc silny, by

[lze_elita]

dac takiemu w morde, gdy zacznie sie przystawiac. A dzieci mi ulica nie chowa -
i tu sie od siebie roznimy:)

wspolczuje

[bekon6]

Czego? Ze molestowany potrafie w zeby dac?

[lze_elita]

Lub - gdy to dama - dac jej siarczystego klapsa;)

za to to powinno byc krzeslo elektyczne a jakis

[bekon6]

klaps

Za molestowanie faceta przez kobiete? Ty to serio

[lze_elita]

SUPER-ZBOCZONY jestes. Pewno ksiezulo?

[brick_g]

Homoseksualisci utrzymuja stosunki w tym seksualne na zasadzie wlasnego,
nieprzymuszonego wyboru. Homoseksualizm to zaburzenie preferencji seksualnych,
odchylenie. Czesto ludzie o swietnym intelekcie, jeszcze czesciej ci, ktorzy nie
znalezli zrozumienia u plci przeciwnej. PEDOFILIA to choroba - w zasadzie FORMA
GWAŁTU na dziecku - ktore nie wyraza zgody na takie dzialanie ze strony pedofila.

Z tego co na jej temat czytalem zaczyna sie w okresie kiedy pojawia sie "Ja"
dziecka. Nie mowimy tutaj o opresjonowaniu niemowlat. Jesli dziecko jest juz
"Kims" a nie "Czyms" (gluptakiem nie majacym o sobie pojecia - po prostu zbyt
malym by zrozumiec kto to jest "Ja").

Zboczencow szukac nie trzeba daleko - ofiar - tym bardziej. Smutne jest ze
czesto jesli sie juz podziela swoim sekretem to z kims, kto nie jest im w stanie
pomoc. Niektore ofiary potrafia uzywac argumentu o molestowaniu do ratowania
przyjazni (itp.) i to jest efekt uboczny pedofilii. Odzyskiwanie jakiejs czesci
utraconego dziecinstwa poprzez takie wlasnie zagrania. Ofiary pedofilii sa
bardzo czesto swietnymi szantazystami emocjonalnymi.

pozdrawiam

PS. Szczegolne pozdrowienia kieruje dla Giszowieckiego pedofilskiego lobby
(Katowice - Giszowiec) - modlcie sie zeby ktoregos dnia prawda nie wyszla na jaw
bo wtedy nie uratuja was zadne pieniadze...

25 lat ! I chłosta publiczna na rynku 200 batów !

[dvoryanin]

zapominałem wykastrowac ! Jeżeli okarze się winny

[dvoryanin]

[mark.parker]

Podnieca cię S&M?

Ten to chyba wariat - dozywocie w psychiatryku,

[lze_elita]

raczej. Bo, niestety, pedofilia nie jest uleczalna (stad i to dozywotnie
wpisywanie pedofilow na listy przestepcow seksualnych w UK, i - tamze - ich
dozywotnie "obraczkowanie" nadajnikami, by policja mial ich na oku).

[pc486]

o leczyc orientacje seksualna chcesz, to tak jak kiedys homoseksualistow...
Jakos nie widze list w UK homosi na necie, czemu sa inaczej traktowani??

Naucz sie czytac: mowie, ze pedofilia poki co

[lze_elita]

NIE JEST uleczalona. A homosi, o ile kogos nie zgwalca, na owych listach nie
ma. Podobnie jak i heterykow (choc tez tylko do momentu popelnienia gwaltu).

[pc486]

piszesz poki co, to moze bedziesz leczyc tez homoseksualistow? Bo z jakiej to
racji jedni sa orientacja seksualna i maja wieksze prawa, a drudzy to zboczency
ktorzy musza byc na kazdym kroku monitorowani? Gdzie twoja rownosc praw
czlowieka??

Przeciez ja nie chce leczyc pedofilow:)

[lze_elita]

Wiadomo, ze leczenie nie skutkuje, ze nie skutkuje nawet kastracja (bo jak
wyzej nie tylko, i to raczej rzadko, na pelnym stosunku polega pedofilska
molestacja seksualna), stad i owo dozywotnie "obraczkowanie" by i dzieci, i ich
uchronic przed przestepstwem.
A geje? A KTO ma prawo sie wtracac w zycie seksualne doroslych ludzi? Za seks
homo z mlodszym od 16 lat (tu granica jest wyzsza) - odsiadka jak za pedofilie.
Z 17-latkiem juz wolno. I tyle.

[pc486]

wiesz wszystko bylo by OK, tylko pomysly z obnizeniem wieku do ktorego uwaza
sie czlowieka za dziecko nie napawaja mnie optymizmem

pozdrawiam i znikam z netu ;)
dzieki za dialog....

Mysle, ze ta brytyjska granica 16 lat jest dosc

[lze_elita]

zdrowa, siedzi logicznie w tradycjach europejskich, gdzie zamazpojscie 16tki
uwazano przez wieki za wczesne, ale jednak normalne. Jasne, w UK matkami
zostaja i 13- 14-latki, ale zwykle z takim samym szczylem jak i one, a wiec
pedofilia tu nie zachodzi: dzieciak uwiodl dziecko?

[jollyroger3]

karać pedofili jednakowo wszelkich orientacji...........

pedzie..

[jollyroger3]

"Oby życie miało smaczek,raz dziewczynka,raz chłopaczek"cytat z niejakiego "mangolda"
czy też "sclavusa"............

każdy zboczniec powinien być leczony i wyleczony

[wojtek2784]

To jest dziwny świat walczący o "wolność" dla podobnych ludzi

Pedofilia gwalt na dziecku. Homoseksualizm - ...

[brick_g]

Homoseksualisci utrzymuja stosunki w tym seksualne na zasadzie wlasnego,
nieprzymuszonego wyboru. Homoseksualizm to zaburzenie preferencji seksualnych,
odchylenie. Czesto ludzie o swietnym intelekcie, jeszcze czesciej ci, ktorzy nie
znalezli zrozumienia u plci przeciwnej. PEDOFILIA to choroba - w zasadzie FORMA
GWAŁTU na dziecku - ktore nie wyraza zgody na takie dzialanie ze strony pedofila.

Z tego co na jej temat czytalem zaczyna sie w okresie kiedy pojawia sie "Ja"
dziecka. Nie mowimy tutaj o opresjonowaniu niemowlat. Jesli dziecko jest juz
"Kims" a nie "Czyms" (gluptakiem nie majacym o sobie pojecia - po prostu zbyt
malym by zrozumiec kto to jest "Ja").

Zboczencow szukac nie trzeba daleko - ofiar - tym bardziej. Smutne jest ze
czesto jesli sie juz podziela swoim sekretem to z kims, kto nie jest im w stanie
pomoc. Niektore ofiary potrafia uzywac argumentu o molestowaniu do ratowania
przyjazni (itp.) i to jest efekt uboczny pedofilii. Odzyskiwanie jakiejs czesci
utraconego dziecinstwa poprzez takie wlasnie zagrania. Ofiary pedofilii sa
bardzo czesto swietnymi szantazystami emocjonalnymi.

pozdrawiam

PS. Szczegolne pozdrowienia kieruje dla Giszowieckiego pedofilskiego lobby
(Katowice - Giszowiec) - modlcie sie zeby ktoregos dnia prawda nie wyszla na jaw
bo wtedy nie uratuja was zadne pieniadze...

Pedofilia to nie TYLKO gwalt na dziecku. To takze

[lze_elita]

- i na szczescie - kazda "inna czynnosc seksualna". Nb. gwalty u pedofilow sa
rzadkie.

dziennikarze nie piszcie już o tej Belgii...

[weteran3]

u nas jak widać szybko się uczą nowoczesnych trędów europejskich...

To stare, jak Polska sama. I jej kler, co rzecze

[lze_elita]

"Pozwolcie dziadkom przyjsc do mnie", choc nie mysli Chrystusa ma w glowie,
tylko Jego slowa na ustach - vide: pedofil z Tylawy. Szczesliwie teraz zaczeto
o tym mowic i przed sadem co niektorych stawiac. Wczesniej nikt nic nie
wiedzial...
Zreszta, to samo bylo w Irlandii poki rzadzila w niej bieda, ciemnota i KK. I
tyle.

Oswiec niePolaka antyKatolika blaskiem faktow

[ekumeniczny]

Cytat:

"Police three weeks ago launched an investigation into alleged sexual abuse by
a teacher at Jerusalem's Mercaz Harav yeshiva 14 years ago ... In mid-December,
police were alerted to accusations by three men - now in their late 20s - who
studied at the yeshiva in their teenage years and said they were sexually
molested by the man. Police then began investigations into other men who
reportedly were also sexually abused, but did not come forward ... The head of
the yeshiva, former Ashkenazi chief rabbi Avraham Shapira, was alerted to the
complaints several months ago in an anonymous letter and soon after in an
anonymous phone call ... Senior National Religious Party figures, meanwhile,
reacted to reports that Shapira attempted to silence those who made the
allegations of sexual misconduct ... This is not the first time that Shapira
has been suspected of trying to prevent a police inquiry into the improprieties
of yeshiva teachers. Last year, he received a warning letter from Attorney-
General Elyakim Rubinstein after he was said to have tried to cover up the
illegal sexual behavior of Ze'ev Kopolevitch, formerly head of Jerusalem's
Netiv Meir Yeshiva, who was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison."

CENZORZE, cytowanie faktow z zydowskiej prasy NIE MOZE BYC UZNANE jako
SPRZECZNE Z PRAWEM. Kasowanie takich cytatow to brutalne pozbawienie obywatela
wolnosci slowa gwarantowanej konstytucja i umowami miedzynarodowymi.

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"A former employee of Calgary Jewish Community Council has been charged with
possession of child pornography, sexual assault and sexual interference with a
child under 14 years of age. David Webber, 35, was arrested on February 22. On
that date, police executed a search warrant on his apartment. In the search,
they seized a large number of Polaroid photographs of nude boys aged 10 to 14
and written materials. Several children have already been interviewed and are
alleged to be victims of sexual assault ... Before moving to Calgary, Webber
was youth director of the Beth Israel Synagogue in Edmonton. In 1990, he was
charged with sexual assault in Edmonton, but the charges were subsequently
dismissed."

antyKatolik niePOLAK slomke widzi w oku Katolika a slupa wysokiego napiecia nie
widzi w swoim oku

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"A rabbi accused of molesting three boys at a Chabad elementary school was
arrested Dec. 3 and remained at the L.A. Men’s Central Jail in lieu of $500,000
bail as The Journal went to press. Rabbi Mordechai Yomtov’s arrest on 10 felony
counts of committing lewd acts with children came following an investigation by
the LAPD after three boys, ages 8 to 10, reported last month that Yomtov was
keeping each of them alone in the classroom and molesting them while the other
children were at recess. Yomtov, 36, an Australian-born rabbi with a wife and
four children, pleaded not guilty. A preliminary hearing in Los Angeles
Superior Court is set for Dec. 17. Yomtov has taught 8- to 10-year-olds for six
years at Cheder Menachem, a school with 220 boys, kindergarten through eighth
grade, on Melrose Avenue in the Beverly Boulevard-La Brea Avenue neighborhood.
The school issued a written statement following the arrest: 'Due to the
sensitivity of the issues involved and to protect the privacy of our students,
parents, teachers and staff, the school will be making no public comment.' The
statement went on, 'We request that our privacy be respected. The school is
cooperating fully with all applicable authorities.'"

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"A garbage truck driver with a part-time job as a synagogue sexton in a town in
the center of the country was convicted yesterday by a Jerusalem District Court
for sexually assaulting children who went to synagogue to pray with him ... At
least three children were involved, with one, the 13-year-old, being the son of
another synagogue official. That boy was so disturbed by the sexual abuse that
he took up drugs, and the sexton then exploited that knowledge to blackmail the
youth into more sexual intercourse. The other two children were subject to his
fondling, often on the back porch of the synagogue during prayers, in exchange
for sweets."

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Interesujaca nazwa Troop 666 ;-)))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"The accused pedophile scoutmaster of the Upper East Side's Boy Scout Troop 666
will seek a no-jail deal today - and the young sodomy victim's anguished family
is furious. 'He is a wolf of the worst kind under that sheep's clothing,' the
victim's mother said of the since-fired scoutmaster - married Upper East Sider
Jerrold Schwartz, 42. 'Anything less than the maximum sentence would be unfair
to my son,' the mother - whose name is being kept confidential - said in a Dec.
13 letter to the judge, who will consider a possible plea deal today in
Manhattan Supreme Court. Prosecutors say a total of five credible victims have
accused Schwartz - who also ran a Colorado-based youth travel company - of
turning Troop 666 into Boy Scout hell through a pattern of winning kids' trust,
tempting them with overnight ski and camping trips - and then molesting
them. 'I say 10 minutes in a room with me - that's a fair sentence,' one of
these alleged victims, a now 30-year-old Queens man, angrily responded when
informed of the negotiations yesterday. But Schwartz is only charged with
sodomizing one boy - a total of 36 times - because the statute of limitations
has run out on the other cases. That boy is now 20 years old. He's in in-house
rehab for cocaine addiction and alcoholism, his parents wrote the judge. He
bathes compulsively 'because he feels so dirty,' they said. He also has nightly
nightmares, and self-mutilates."

lze elita, Katolicy wywoluja u ciebie obzydzenie ? ;-))))))))))))))))))

Pouczajaca lektura dla "lze elita" ;-)))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

Synagogue Cantor Arrested on Sexual Abuse Charges, Newsday, February 20, 2002

"The longtime cantor at one of the nation’s largest and most prominent Reform
synagogues was arrested in New York on Wednesday on charges that he sexually
abused a nephew, a prosecutor said. Howard Nevison, 61, of Congregation Emanu-
El, on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, was arrested at his apartment, said
Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. Police in Lower Merion,
a suburb of Philadelphia, charged Nevison with sexually assaulting the boy on
three occasions between 1993 and 1997 while the boy was 3 to 7 years old. 'Like
anyone else, we in law enforcement tend to believe that religious figures are
beyond reproach. You want to make very sure before you go accusing one,' Castor
said. Police have known about the allegations since about 1998 but did not
pursue charges until the victim, who was undergoing therapy, was ready to
confront the uncle, Castor said. 'He had terrorized the child to the point
that, in the judgment of his parents, his therapists and our investigators, he
was too traumatized to go forward,' Castor said."

Oswiec NIEpolaka blaskiem faktow
;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

On nie zna angielskiego. Trzeba mu tłumaczyć, a na

[ogromnejadra]

jlepiej jeśli napiszą to gazecie. Wtedy uwierzy.

ciekawy Cytat dla lze elita ;-))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"Joel's parents were as baffled as they were horrified. Almost a year would
pass before they'd come to understand the source of his demons, a year in which
their curly-haired boy was frequently suicidal and obviously terrified. In
therapy over the subsequent months, he slowly started revealing the torments
he'd endured at the hands of his own family. He'd been sexually abused by his
uncle Larry (his father's older brother, who confessed in 1999 and is currently
in prison), and also by Larry's adult son Stewart, who pleaded guilty and
served a year before being released on parole. Finally, the boy charged, he was
sexually abused by his uncle Howie (his father's oldest brother, fourteen years
Henry's senior). Uncle Howie is better known to New Yorkers as Cantor Howard
Nevison, part of the rabbinical hierarchy at Congregation Emanu-El, the city's
most prominent Reform Jewish synagogue, for 23 years.

In the early-morning hours of February 20, police arrested him in his Upper
West Side home. On April 17, a preliminary hearing will determine whether there
is enough evidence for the case to go to trial. He is contesting the
charges. 'Howard Nevison is innocent, and we are confident he will be
exonerated,' says his attorney, Ralph Jacobs. These accusations are very
different from the suddenly ubiquitous stories of priests molesting
parishioners. This is strictly a family affair ... .

But for Nevison, the blow had been coming for years; the cantor first learned
he was a suspect not long after Joel's parents initially approached the police
in 1998. Linda Fairstein, former longtime chief of the New York district
attorney's sex-crimes-prosecution unit, says she's "stunned" that it took so
long to file charges against the cantor. "I've never heard of that," she
says. "It's quite extraordinary that people who already gained the trust of a
child for the prosecution of relatives couldn't then also elicit his consent in
prosecuting another one at the time."

Why the delay? Joel, according to the Pennsylvania district attorney bringing
the charges, was too afraid to testify against the cantor, allegedly the most
terrifying of the three men accused of molesting him. In the affidavit of
probable cause that resulted in Howard Nevison's arrest, the boy describes him
as 'a big man with a mean, powerful voice and frightening glare,' who
threatened to kill him if he spoke up ... Some parents were outraged to learn
that the temple leadership had known since 1998 about an investigation of the
Nevison family yet continued allowing the cantor to meet with boys and girls
preparing for their bar mitzvahs."

Osmiesz antyPOLAKA blaskiem faktow
;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

lze elita - jaki pseudonim taki stan psychiczny

[ekumeniczny]

Cytat:

"Prosecutors say the Kensington man repeatedly raped and sodomized two girls
whom his wife was baby-sitting at their rowhouse. He allegedly employed a
plastic baseball bat on one occasion. But the ugliness of the details is not
all that makes the case stand out. Philadelphia police were called in four
years ago, when the attacks allegedly began. One of the girls, then 8,
described the assaults in graphic detail. But the sex-crimes unit closed the
case after a cursory investigation. Investigators did not interview the man,
Samuel Cohen, or inform child-welfare authorities of the allegations against
him, The Inquirer has learned. Cohen continued assaulting one of the girls,
then 7, for five more months, police now say. One of the assaults was so brutal
that the child was taken to a hospital with vaginal injuries, records show."

Osmiesz antyKATOLIKA blaskiem cytatow
;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Gdzie najwiekszy odsetek pedofili? ;-)))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

The Awareness Center, [List of over 30 rabbi and other Jewish clergy child
molesters, etc.]
"Mass Molestation Cases Not Including Clergy Case of Ohel Counselor - Simcha
Adler, NY Case of School Counselor - Eugene Loub Aronin, TX Case of School
Teacher - Lawrence Cohen, NJ Case of School Principal - David B. Harrington,
Rockville, MD Case of Jewish Big Brother Volunteer - Eric Hindin, Newton, MA
Case of Judge Ronald Kline, CA Case of the Kosher Butcher in Chicago Case of
the New York Society for the Deaf's Home Case of the Rogers Park JCC, Chicago
Illinois Case of Teacher/Track Coach - Adam Theodore Rubin, MD Case of Cantor
Michael Segelstein, Las Vegas, NV Case of Teacher - Georges Schteinberg, Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil Israeli vice-consul Aryeh Scher - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Case
of Camp Counselor - David Schwartz, Culver City, CA Case of Scoutmaster -
Jerrold Schwartz, NY Case of Tel Aviv Arts School, Tel Aviv, Israel Case of
Mashgiach (Kashrut Supervisor) David Douglas Webber, Canada Clergy Abuse Case
of Rabbi Lewis Brenner Case of Rabbi Ephraim Bryks Case of Rabbi Shlomo
Carlebach Case of Rabbi Sidney Goldenberg Case of Cantor Joel Gordon Case of
Rabbi Israel Grunwald Case of The State of Israel Vs.Sex Offender Case of Rabbi
Tzvi Flaum Case of Yehudah Friedlander Case of the Rabbi at Hillel Torah,
Chicago, IL Case of Rabbi Steven Jacobs Case of Jacob Frank and the Frankist
Movement Case of Rabbi Steven Kaplan Case of Rabbi Robert Kirschner Case of
Rabbi/Rosh Yeshiva Ze'ev Kopolevitch Case of Rabbi Baruch Lanner Case of Rabbi
Jerrold M. Levy Case of Rabbi Pinchas Lew Case of Rabbi Richard Marcovitz Case
of Rabbi Juda Mintz Case of Rabbi/Psychologist - Avrohom Mondrowitz Case of
Cantor Howard Nevison Case of Rabbi Fred Neulander Case of Rabbi Michael Ozair
Case of Rabbi Charles Shalman Case of Rabbi/Yeshiva Teacher Ze'ev Sultanovitch
Case of Rabbi David Weinberger Case of Rabbi Yaakov Weiner Case of Rabbi
Mordechai Willig (Accused of cover-up in the case of Baruch Lanner) Case of
Cantor Phillip Wittlin Case of Rabbi Mordechai Yomtov Case of Rabbi Sheldon
Zimmerman Case of Rabbi Max Zucker"


osmiesz antyPOLAKA antyKATOLIKA blaskiem faktow.

Dobrze ci sie gada z samym soba? Typowe:)

[lze_elita]

Angielski to jezyk mojej matki. Moze ty to

[lze_elita]

przelozysz, "oswiecony"?
>>The Pope has ordered an inquiry into allegations that a Roman Catholic
archbishop in his native Poland sexually abused seminarians and priests./.../<<
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1837840.stm

oswiec niePolaka antyPolaka antyKatolika ;-)))))))

[ekumeniczny]

lista dla antyPOLAKA ;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

The Awareness Center, [List of over 30 rabbi and other Jewish clergy child
molesters, etc.]
"Mass Molestation Cases Not Including Clergy Case of Ohel Counselor - Simcha
Adler, NY Case of School Counselor - Eugene Loub Aronin, TX Case of School
Teacher - Lawrence Cohen, NJ Case of School Principal - David B. Harrington,
Rockville, MD Case of Jewish Big Brother Volunteer - Eric Hindin, Newton, MA
Case of Judge Ronald Kline, CA Case of the Kosher Butcher in Chicago Case of
the New York Society for the Deaf's Home Case of the Rogers Park JCC, Chicago
Illinois Case of Teacher/Track Coach - Adam Theodore Rubin, MD Case of Cantor
Michael Segelstein, Las Vegas, NV Case of Teacher - Georges Schteinberg, Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil Israeli vice-consul Aryeh Scher - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Case
of Camp Counselor - David Schwartz, Culver City, CA Case of Scoutmaster -
Jerrold Schwartz, NY Case of Tel Aviv Arts School, Tel Aviv, Israel Case of
Mashgiach (Kashrut Supervisor) David Douglas Webber, Canada Clergy Abuse Case
of Rabbi Lewis Brenner Case of Rabbi Ephraim Bryks Case of Rabbi Shlomo
Carlebach Case of Rabbi Sidney Goldenberg Case of Cantor Joel Gordon Case of
Rabbi Israel Grunwald Case of The State of Israel Vs.Sex Offender Case of Rabbi
Tzvi Flaum Case of Yehudah Friedlander Case of the Rabbi at Hillel Torah,
Chicago, IL Case of Rabbi Steven Jacobs Case of Jacob Frank and the Frankist
Movement Case of Rabbi Steven Kaplan Case of Rabbi Robert Kirschner Case of
Rabbi/Rosh Yeshiva Ze'ev Kopolevitch Case of Rabbi Baruch Lanner Case of Rabbi
Jerrold M. Levy Case of Rabbi Pinchas Lew Case of Rabbi Richard Marcovitz Case
of Rabbi Juda Mintz Case of Rabbi/Psychologist - Avrohom Mondrowitz Case of
Cantor Howard Nevison Case of Rabbi Fred Neulander Case of Rabbi Michael Ozair
Case of Rabbi Charles Shalman Case of Rabbi/Yeshiva Teacher Ze'ev Sultanovitch
Case of Rabbi David Weinberger Case of Rabbi Yaakov Weiner Case of Rabbi
Mordechai Willig (Accused of cover-up in the case of Baruch Lanner) Case of
Cantor Phillip Wittlin Case of Rabbi Mordechai Yomtov Case of Rabbi Sheldon
Zimmerman Case of Rabbi Max Zucker"

nie chcemy dewiacji w meskiej ubikacji uzytkowniku (kibla) lze elita
;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Czy ty jestes Zydem? O swoje dzieci w kahale sie

[lze_elita]

boisz? Sorki, ja jednak jestem anglikaninem i bardziej by mnie zmartwil
anglikanski pedofil:)))

jad nienawisci a pochodzenie ;-)))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

gdybys byl anglikaninem piana nienawisci nie cieklaby ci z geby.

No to powiedz nam publicznie:
Chrystus jest synem Boga. Maryja jest Matka Syna Bozego.

ciekawe co ten niepolak teraz zrobi. Znow sie pewnie osmieszy
;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I jeszcze jeden kawalek - dla ekumenicznego:

[lze_elita]

>>Pope John Paul II has broken his silence on a wave of sex scandals which
threaten to undermine the Church's claim to moral authority.

In his annual letter to priests, the Pope denounced the "sins of our brothers"
which brought scandal upon the Church and made the laity suspicious of even
the "finest" priests./.../<<
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1885380.stm

gdzie najwiekszy odsetek pedofili ??? ;-))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"A 62-year-old Haifa man was charged yesterday with physically and mentally
abusing his children and wife for many years. He is also suspected of raping
two of his daughters ... In 1984, the indictment says, he married a woman who
had two daughters, aged 12 and 8. He is accused of raping his elder
stepdaughter for the first time when she was 17 and then throwing her out of
the house naked. He continued raping her until she turned 21, threatening to
tell that she was sleeping with him if she resisted. He stopped raping and
abusing her only when she married, at the age of 23. He started raping his
younger stepdaughter when she was 15, in addition to beating her and screaming
at her. He is alleged to have raped her several times more between 1991 and
1993. When she joined the army, he humiliated her and threw her out. She never
returned to the family home. The man is also charged with beating his wife in
2000 so badly that she required medical treatment. In addition, he abused his
wife for years with humiliating acts and insults at every opportunity. The
couple had three more daughters, born in 1986, 1987 and 1990. The man is also
charged with abusing the young girls. He used to scream at the older one and
insult her until she started getting anxiety attacks. He insisted on watching
her dress against her will and stroke her behind against her explicit wishes.
He used to masturbate in front of the second daughter and abuse her in similar
ways, and is also suspected of brutally beating the youngest child."

osmiesz antyPOLAKA blaskiem cytatow
;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"Tel Aviv District Court on Wednesday sentenced a 29-year-old Bnei Brak
resident to nine years in prison and two years' probation for sexually
harassing and assaulting six ultra-Orthodox youths between the ages of 14 and
16 over a period of years. Avraham Asher was also accused of 'offering' one of
the youths to two of his friends, who also abused him. The two, Yossi Mozas and
Yosef Garus, both 29, from Bnei Brak, were given much lighter sentences ... The
court heard that Asher and his friends harassed the youths in bus shelters and
at ritual baths in Bnei Brak. Asher also assaulted the youths in showers and
once visited a yeshiva in Jerusalem, where one of the teenagers studied."

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

"With his Mickey Mouse lapel pin replete with an American flag, prosecutor Ira
Karmelin cut a squeaky-clean image in the Palm Beach County Courthouse. But on
Tuesday the image was of the top assistant state attorney handcuffed outside
the courthouse and carted off to jail to face child sex charges. Karmelin, 38,
is accused of soliciting a woman, whom he believed was a 13-year-old girl, on
the Internet and performing lewd acts in front of her via a camera attached to
his computer. The prosecutor

lze elita obzydzajaco antyPolaki ?????????????????

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

Yeshiva Teacher Accused of Molesting Students. Jerusalem Post, January 12, 2000

"Police three weeks ago launched an investigation into alleged sexual abuse by
a teacher at Jerusalem's Mercaz Harav yeshiva 14 years ago ... In mid-December,
police were alerted to accusations by three men - now in their late 20s - who
studied at the yeshiva in their teenage years and said they were sexually
molested by the man. Police then began investigations into other men who
reportedly were also sexually abused, but did not come forward ... The head of
the yeshiva, former Ashkenazi chief rabbi Avraham Shapira, was alerted to the
complaints several months ago in an anonymous letter and soon after in an
anonymous phone call ... Senior National Religious Party figures, meanwhile,
reacted to reports that Shapira attempted to silence those who made the
allegations of sexual misconduct ... This is not the first time that Shapira
has been suspected of trying to prevent a police inquiry into the improprieties
of yeshiva teachers. Last year, he received a warning letter from Attorney-
General Elyakim Rubinstein after he was said to have tried to cover up the
illegal sexual behavior of Ze'ev Kopolevitch, formerly head of Jerusalem's
Netiv Meir Yeshiva, who was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison."

Arrest of Ex-Employee Sparks Concern. compcocity.com [originally from Edmonton
Jewish Life], [Undated, 1990s]

"A former employee of Calgary Jewish Community Council has been charged with
possession of child pornography, sexual assault and sexual interference with a
child under 14 years of age. David Webber, 35, was arrested on February 22. On
that date, police executed a search warrant on his apartment. In the search,
they seized a large number of Polaroid photographs of nude boys aged 10 to 14
and written materials. Several children have already been interviewed and are
alleged to be victims of sexual assault ... Before moving to Calgary, Webber
was youth director of the Beth Israel Synagogue in Edmonton. In 1990, he was
charged with sexual assault in Edmonton, but the charges were subsequently
dismissed."

Synagogue Sexton Guilty of Pedophilia. Haaretz [Israel], June 22, 2001

"A garbage truck driver with a part-time job as a synagogue sexton in a town in
the center of the country was convicted yesterday by a Jerusalem District Court
for sexually assaulting children who went to synagogue to pray with him ... At
least three children were involved, with one, the 13-year-old, being the son of
another synagogue official. That boy was so disturbed by the sexual abuse that
he took up drugs, and the sexton then exploited that knowledge to blackmail the
youth into more sexual intercourse. The other two children were subject to his
fondling, often on the back porch of the synagogue during prayers, in exchange
for sweets."

Rabbi Jailed. Instructor at Cheder Menachem Grade School Accused of Molesting
Boys, Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, December 14, 2001

"A rabbi accused of molesting three boys at a Chabad elementary school was
arrested Dec. 3 and remained at the L.A. Men’s Central Jail in lieu of $500,000
bail as The Journal went to press. Rabbi Mordechai Yomtov’s arrest on 10 felony
counts of committing lewd acts with children came following an investigation by
the LAPD after three boys, ages 8 to 10, reported last month that Yomtov was
keeping each of them alone in the classroom and molesting them while the other
children were at recess. Yomtov, 36, an Australian-born rabbi with a wife and
four children, pleaded not guilty. A preliminary hearing in Los Angeles
Superior Court is set for Dec. 17. Yomtov has taught 8- to 10-year-olds for six
years at Cheder Menachem, a school with 220 boys, kindergarten through eighth
grade, on Melrose Avenue in the Beverly Boulevard-La Brea Avenue neighborhood.
The school issued a written statement following the arrest: 'Due to the
sensitivity of the issues involved and to protect the privacy of our students,
parents, teachers and staff, the school will be making no public comment.' The
statement went on, 'We request that our privacy be respected. The school is
cooperating fully with all applicable authorities.'"

Scout 'Perv' Might Go Free, New York Post, December 19, 2001

"The accused pedophile scoutmaster of the Upper East Side's Boy Scout Troop 666
will seek a no-jail deal today - and the young sodomy victim's anguished family
is furious. 'He is a wolf of the worst kind under that sheep's clothing,' the
victim's mother said of the since-fired scoutmaster - married Upper East Sider
Jerrold Schwartz, 42. 'Anything less than the maximum sentence would be unfair
to my son,' the mother - whose name is being kept confidential - said in a Dec.
13 letter to the judge, who will consider a possible plea deal today in
Manhattan Supreme Court. Prosecutors say a total of five credible victims have
accused Schwartz - who also ran a Colorado-based youth travel company - of
turning Troop 666 into Boy Scout hell through a pattern of winning kids' trust,
tempting them with overnight ski and camping trips - and then molesting
them. 'I say 10 minutes in a room with me - that's a fair sentence,' one of
these alleged victims, a now 30-year-old Queens man, angrily responded when
informed of the negotiations yesterday. But Schwartz is only charged with
sodomizing one boy - a total of 36 times - because the statute of limitations
has run out on the other cases. That boy is now 20 years old. He's in in-house
rehab for cocaine addiction and alcoholism, his parents wrote the judge. He
bathes compulsively 'because he feels so dirty,' they said. He also has nightly
nightmares, and self-mutilates."

Synagogue Cantor Arrested on Sexual Abuse Charges, Newsday, February 20, 2002

"The longtime cantor at one of the nation’s largest and most prominent Reform
synagogues was arrested in New York on Wednesday on charges that he sexually
abused a nephew, a prosecutor said. Howard Nevison, 61, of Congregation Emanu-
El, on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, was arrested at his apartment, said
Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. Police in Lower Merion,
a suburb of Philadelphia, charged Nevison with sexually assaulting the boy on
three occasions between 1993 and 1997 while the boy was 3 to 7 years old. 'Like
anyone else, we in law enforcement tend to believe that religious figures are
beyond reproach. You want to make very sure before you go accusing one,' Castor
said. Police have known about the allegations since about 1998 but did not
pursue charges until the victim, who was undergoing therapy, was ready to
confront the uncle, Castor said. 'He had terrorized the child to the point
that, in the judgment of his parents, his therapists and our investigators, he
was too traumatized to go forward,' Castor said."

In 2 Communities, Concern Over the Arrest of a Cantor, New York Times, February
22, 2002

"The proper, prosperous residents of the Upper East Side of Manhattan and of
the Main Line Philadelphia suburb of Lower Merion Township stood united
yesterday in sheer disbelief over the same sordid tale — a synagogue cantor
accused of molesting his prepubescent nephew. The lawyers, investment bankers,
politicians and other prominent members of Temple Emanu-El in Manhattan
struggled to square their image of the cantor, Howard Nevison, the golden-
voiced tenor who led them in prayer for 23 years, with the Lower Merion
police's description of him as a violent sexual abuser of a child. The imposing
temple at Fifth Avenue and 65th Street, said to be the largest synagogue in the
world, is home to one of the nation's most prominent reform congregations. It
counts among its members the new mayor of New York, the Manhattan distric

Wiem, ze jako Zyda martwia cie rabini-pedofile,ale

[lze_elita]

cos mi sie wydaje, ze dla wiekszosci osob na tym forum jest to tematyka
obojetna, bo ich chrzescijanskie dzieci z rabinami zapewne nigdy sie nie
zetkna. Jesli pragniesz ostrzec innych zydowskich rodzicow, to umiesc swoje
posty na jakims forum zydowskim - odwalisz kawalek dobrej roboty:)

zeby az tylu???????? ;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

Rabbi's Odyssey Reflects Struggle on Sexual Abuse. Jews Begin to Confront
Silence That Hid Clergy's Misdeeds,
by Alan Cooperman, Washington Post, February 2, 2003; Page A17
"During his 30-year career, Sidney I. Goldenberg taught math in the New York
schools, served as cantor at two synagogues on Long Island and became the rabbi
of a Jewish congregation in California. He was a respected teacher, a man of
learning

[ekumeniczny]

cytat:

Child Molester Sent to Treatment Center,
Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, February 7, 2003
"David Schwartz, a counselor for preschool boys at an Orthodox music and arts
camp, was sentenced to one year in residential treatment and five years’
probation for molesting a 4-year-old boy in his care at summer camp. A six-year
prison sentence was suspended. The Jan. 21 sentencing at the Airport Courthouse
came after Schwartz, the 36-year-old father of young children, accepted a plea
bargain in which he pleaded no contest to one felony count of committing lewd
acts with a child. (A plea of no contest in a criminal court is the equivalent
of guilty, but if victims decide to sue Schwartz, they cannot use the criminal
plea against him, according to the district attorney’s office.) Schwartz will
have to register as a sex offender for life, undergo at least two years of sex
offender therapy and is prohibited from being alone with minor children,
including his own, for the period of probation ... While all the boys in the
group told stories that indicated they had been molested and tormented, only
two were able to tell their stories coherently and consistently enough to be
considered admissible in court. Three parents spoke with The Jewish Journal,
telling of the long-lasting pain Schwartz has inflicted on their families.
Parents said their children spoke of being touched and hurt, and watching
Schwartz make 'white pee-pee.' Testimony and physical evidence on at least one
boy indicated that he was sodomized. Schwartz is alleged to have brought a bird
into class and cut off its head in front of the children, telling them that if
they told anyone about what happened, he would do the same to them and their
parents... When Schwartz was first arrested, many in the Orthodox community —
those who knew him and those who didn’t — asserted the innocence of Schwartz,
who was a counselor at Camp Ruach for two years and taught middle school social
studies at Yeshivat Yavneh in Hancock Park. Several rabbis who knew him
privately expressed disbelief that he could have perpetrated such acts. At a
hearing soon after his arrest, at which his bail was reduced from $1 million to
$300,000, Schwartz’s supporters heckled the parents of the victims, accusing
them of harming another Jew. But as details of the boys’ stories came out,
support waned."

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cytat z wolnej prasy: ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

L.A. program offers help after arrest of rabbi for pedophilia, Jewish
Telegraphic Agency (from Jewish Week), February 26, 2003

"In the wake of the arrest last week of Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum in a police
Internet sex sting operation, the director of a Los Angeles-based residential
treatment program for Jews with addictive and behavioral disorders believes a
similar program is needed here and has offered to assist. 'If we can share what
we have learned in our 16 years of existence, we would be glad to help,' said
Harriet Rossetto, director of Beit T’Shuvah, believed to be the country’s only
residential program for Jewish adults. Rossetto said three of the 110 Jews in
her program are rabbis there for sexual addiction. She is convinced that their
cases, as well as the arrests in recent years of rabbis accused of sex crimes,
are 'just the tip of the iceberg' ... The call for a treatment program for
rabbis comes after a string of much-publicized cases involving Jewish clergy
charged with sexual abuse of minors. They include Rabbi Baruch Lanner, who last
June was sentenced to seven years in prison for sexually abusing two girls when
he was principal of a New Jersey yeshiva in the 1990s. Rabbi Lanner is free
pending an appeal. Also, Cantor Howard Nevison of Temple Emanu-el in Manhattan
was charged last spring with sexually abusing his young nephew. That trial has
not begun. Rabbi Kestenbaum’s arrest is not the first involving a rabbi accused
of using the Internet to lure minors. In December 2001, Rabbi Jerald Levy, 58,
of Boca Raton, Fla., was sentenced to six years in federal prison for
downloading child pornography and luring teenage boys to meet him for sex ...
In the aftermath of two highly publicized child abuse cases involving a rabbi
teaching at a day school and a kosher butcher, the Chicago Rabbinical Council a
number of years ago established a special bet din, or rabbinical court, to
address allegations of sexual abuse of children."

antyPOLAK niePOLAK lze elita wysmiany
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osmiesz niePOLAKA antyPOLAKA blaskiem faktow ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))

Runaway teen was sex slave for three years, Haaretz (Israel), March 31, 2003

"A 34-year-old Eilat resident was charged today in a Be'er Sheva court of
sexually abusing an underage teenager from Belarus over the past three years.
According to the indictment, Sergei Mayatski 'imported' the youth from Minsk,
in Belarus, after he met him in a public park during a visit to the city in
September 1999. Following a number of meetings with the youngster, who was 13
at the time, Mayatski met his parents and convinced them to allow him to bring
their son to Israel. It is unclear whether the parents were aware of Mayatski's
intentions.

Two weeks later, the teenager was sent to Israel, where a friend of Mayatski
received him at the airport as his own departure was delayed for two weeks
because of a problem with his entry visa into Israel. The friend took the teen
to his home in Ashdod, and according to the youth's testimony, also sexually
abused him.

Upon his arrival to Israel, in November 1999, Mayatski collected the youth from
Ashdod, took him to Eilat, and presented him as his son. However, during these
years, Mayatski systematically sodomized him. The sexual abuse was revealed
nine days ago following a complaint filed by Mayatski at the police that the
youth had disappeared. When the teenager was located, he was questioned and
said that he left home because he was tired of serving as Mayatski's sex
slave."

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cytat:

Aid centers: Most sexual assault victims in 2002 were minors; one-third were
under 12,
by Ruth Sinai, Haaretz (Israel), April 8, 2003

"More than 2,300 girls and boys under the age of 12 were victims of sexual
assault in the past year, constituting 30 percent of the new cases reported to
the sexual assault aid centers. Almost 26 percent of the victims were 13 to 18
years old ... Forty percent of the sexual assaults were carried out in the
victim's home. 'The home, of all places, which should be a safe, protective and
supporting place, is where many of the horrors take place,' states the report.
About half of the victims refrained from going to the police. The most
prevalent attack - 26 percent of the new calls - was rape, including gang rape.
About 16 percent of the callers complained about incest by fathers (6.5
percent), brothers (2.6 percent) or other relatives. Some 14 percent complained
of indecent acts. About 30 percent of the 110 gang rape victims who called the
Tel Aviv aid center were men. Out of 519 calls reporting non-gang rape to this
center, 25 percent were men. Some 20 percent of the victims of indecent acts
reported in Tel Aviv were men. 'The sexual assault of boys, male youths and men
is a hushed-up crime, which is almost completely absent from discourse in
Israeli society,' the report states. 'It does not occur to the victims that
anyone would listen to their ordeal.' The centers operate a hotline and support
groups, and accompany the victims during the criminal procedures ... According
to the report, the largest group of victims - constituting 19 percent - were
attacked by family relatives, 4.2 percent were attacked by a spouse, and 14
percent by a friend or acquaintance. Only 12 percent of the assaults were
perpetrated by a complete stranger."

lze elita, mam jeszcze ponad 50 cytatow w tym trzy dlugie listy. chcesz zebym
nadal rzucal perly przed .... lze elita?

osmiesz niePOLAKA blaskiem faktow
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Idz do rocznikow Irish Times i Irish Independent

[lze_elita]

Bedziesz mial wiecej, choc kraj malutki - od biskupa w dol:)

od biskupa w dol ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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o to w Irlandii wasi zboczency tez wepchali sie do Kosciola zeby go rozbic od
srodka?

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Bramy piekielne go nie zwycieza !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Nie. Irlandczycy na tyle zglupieli,by miec niegdys

[lze_elita]

KATOLICKIE SZKOLNICTWO POWSZECHNE. Amen.

[wet3]

lze_elita napisał:

> cos mi sie wydaje, ze dla wiekszosci osob na tym forum jest to tematyka
> obojetna, bo ich chrzescijanskie dzieci z rabinami zapewne nigdy sie nie
> zetkna. Jesli pragniesz ostrzec innych zydowskich rodzicow, to umiesc swoje
> posty na jakims forum zydowskim - odwalisz kawalek dobrej roboty:)

Za to zydowskie dzieci stykaja sie i sa molestowane. Przypadki takie nie sa
wcale tak rzadkie. Problem polega na tym, ze "obiektywna" prasa nie informuje o
tym wcale, lub gdy cos baknie, to zaraz potem calej sprawie leb sie ukreca. Bo
przeciez o Zydach nie wolno nic takiego pisac!

U nas informuje. W USA takoz. Podobnie jak o

[lze_elita]

irlandzkich pedofilach w sutannach. I o toczacych sie w Eire procesach o
odszkodowania. Milionowe. I dlatego radze ekumenicznemu Zydowi, by sie na forum
zydowskim objawil - gdy rodzice molestowanych Zydziatek poczuja szmal, to i
rabinom sie dostanie:)

"lze elita" przetlumaczy na polski? ;-)))))))))))

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lze elita, przetlumacz Polakom ktorzy nie znaja angielskiego
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cytat:

"The proper, prosperous residents of the Upper East Side of Manhattan and of
the Main Line Philadelphia suburb of Lower Merion Township stood united
yesterday in sheer disbelief over the same sordid tale — a synagogue cantor
accused of molesting his prepubescent nephew. The lawyers, investment bankers,
politicians and other prominent members of Temple Emanu-El in Manhattan
struggled to square their image of the cantor, Howard Nevison, the golden-
voiced tenor who led them in prayer for 23 years, with the Lower Merion
police's description of him as a violent sexual abuser of a child. The imposing
temple at Fifth Avenue and 65th Street, said to be the largest synagogue in the
world, is home to one of the nation's most prominent reform congregations. It
counts among its members the new mayor of New York, the Manhattan district
attorney and familiar names from the media and the arts."

lze elita, z gory dziekujemy za przetlumaczenie

Osmiesz niePOLAKA blaskiem faktow ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Nie sądzę aby zniżył się do tego. To pożyteczny

[ogromnejadra]

polaczyna... michnik ma z niego pociechę, kto wie, może nawet
osobiście "ocierał" się o niego.

Pudlo! Nie jestem szczesliwie skazony niearyjska

[lze_elita]

krwia slowianska:) A Michnik jest hetero - ks. Jankowski, co mu dziecie do
chrztu trzymal, jest tu najlepszym swiadkiem:)))

A co, byłeś przy prokreacji, że twierdzisz, że to

[ogromnejadra]

jego bachor? Anglikanin... idź, zetnij koński łeb swojej angielskiej mamie
pajacu

Oj, pachnie nam tu anty... boję się wymówić, aby

[ogromnejadra]

czujny recenzent portalu nie wykasował.

Nie, to nie anty - to kolejny przyklad pedofilii

[lze_elita]

wsrod kleru - wsio rawno, jakiej religii:)))

Oj, anglikaninie, henio 8 ci imponuje, a to przeci

[ogromnejadra]

e był zwykły syfilityk. No coż - jaki pan taki kram.

A wyscie nawet polskich wladcow nie mieli. Poza

[lze_elita]

jakims tam Sobieskim:)

Oj, i nawet z historią na bakier. Typowy chów angl

[ogromnejadra]

ikański. Tak, ty naprawdę jesteś protestantem.

A kogo mieliscie od Jagielly? Same inostrance:)))

[lze_elita]

Skandal!! Te oszołomy z koalicji rządzącej zapewne

[ogromnejadra]

będą chciały go sądzić!! Zwierzęta nie ludzie! A przecież ten młody człowiek
kocha dzieci jak nikt inny na świecie, kto wie może nawet będzie z niego
przyszły pedał.