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26.06.03, 13:21
1. nie zorientowalas sie ze ten wywiad byl czescia "oskarzajacego" artykulu?
mowisz po angielsku? hahaha twierdzilas uparcie, ze byla to pozniejsza proba
odwolania slow imama. a tu prosze, TO SA WLASNIE SLOWA IMAMA, KTORE GO
KOSZTOWALY STANOWISKO!
zastanow sie, jesli twierdzisz, ze to sa slowa przeczace czy tez odwolujace
streszczenie jarka, to przeciez nie moze byc tak, zeby jarek to na ich
podstawie wlasnie opracowal swoje streszczenie, prawda? opracowal
streszczenie,
ktore przeczy streszczanym slowom? jak to jest mozliwe?
masz cytaty z kazania, masz cytaty z wywiadu - dopasuj je wiec do
streszczenia
jarka. jesli nie potrafisz, to cos jest nie tak z tym streszczeniem, bo slowa
imama pojawiaja sie w kilku miejscach, sa potwierdzone przez innych z
meczetu,
a nie tam nawet wymienionego slowa "jihad"
jarek sobie zmyslil to wszystko, myslac, ze nikt nie dotrze do zrodel, a ty
sie
dalas nabrac na jego propagande heheheheeeee
sama nie wiedzac jeszcze ze ten "wywiad" jest podstawa "puntkow" jarka
mowilas,
ze on usprawiedliwia i odwoluje te "prawdziwe" wypowiedzi imama, na ktorych
sie
opiera jarek. hehehehe a tu niespodzianka: to wlasnie ten wywiad to te
oryginalne slowa na ktorych sie opiera jarek heheeeeeee
2. twierdzilas, ze jest spisek wsrod muzulmanow w rzymie, zeby ukryc
prawdziwe
slowa imama. a tu prosze, dziennikarz osobiscie przysluchal sie kazaniu, a
potem przeprowadzil ten wywiad, o ktorym mowisz, ze odbyl sie "po
fakcie" "dla
usprawiedliwienia" i na podstawie kazania i wywiadu opublikowal artykul
nastepnego dnia... dalej twierdzisz ze jest spisek? a moze nie ma zadnego
spisku, a jedyne slowa, ktore powiedzial imam to sa te zamieszczone w tym
streszczonym artykule, a reszte zmyslil jarek?
3. najlepsze jest twoje zawolanie o "dobra wole". "dobra wola" potrzebna zeby
uwierzyc waszym kalumniom?
przeciez to imam muzulmanin i stu innych imamow to mowi wiec on musial to
powiedziec, tak? to ma byc ta dobra wola? to jest ZLA WOLA moja panno.
przypisywanie ludziom jakis slow tylko dlatego, ze wyznaja okreslona religie!
dobra wola by bylo sie przyznac, ze skoro NIGDZIE nie ma tego, co jarek
napisal o imamie, a w artykulach (w tym w jednym artykule samego autora) SA
ZUPELNIE INNE SLOWA - to moze wlasnie dobra wola to przyznanie sie, ze sie
zmyslilo? a nie powolywanie twierdzenie ze "prawda jest ukryta" i powolywanie
sie na inne artykuly, ktore jakos przeszly bez echa...
hehehe ale krecisz zamiast sie przyznac do bledu! dobra bylas z tym
artykulem "po fakcie" heheheeeeee
www.repubblica.it/online/la_vita_degli_altri/diciasgiu/diciasgiu/diciasgiu.htm
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Lo scorso 7 giugno La Repubblica ha pubblicato un mio servizio sul sermone
pronunciato dall'imam Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa durante la preghiera
collettiva del venerdi nella Grande moschea di Roma. Al termine del sermone
l'imam pronuncio le seguenti invocazioni: "O Allah fai trionfare i
combattenti islamici in Palestina, in Cecenia e altrove nel mondo! O Allah
distruggi le case dei nemici dell'Islam! O Allah aiutaci a annientare i
nemici dell'Islam! O Allah assicura ovunque la vittoria della Nazione
dell'Islam!". A conclusione della preghiera, nel corso di una breve
intervista, l'imam ha chiarito il suo pensiero: "Dal punto di vista islamico
non c' e alcun dubbio che le operazioni dei mujahidin contro gli ebrei in
Palestina sono legittime. Sono operazioni di martirio e gli autori sono dei
martiri dell' islam. Perché tutta la Palestina e un Dar al-harb, Territorio
di guerra. Perché tutta la societa ebrea occupa illegalmente una terra
islamica". (...)
www.wiesenthal.com/mailings_swc/swc_june13.html
"Allah's help in the destruction of the homes and destruction of the enemies
of Islam, for their annihilation, and the victory everywhere of the Nation of
Islam."
- Imam of Grand Mosque of Rome, Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa, sermon
Friday, June 6, 2003
www.hvk.org/hvk/articles/0603/107.html
Imam justifies suicide bombings in Israel
Author: Linda Lipschitz
Publication:
Date: June 9, 2003 (zwroc uwage na date hehehe, cos wczesniejsza niz
jakrowe "rewelacje" o ktorych nie ma wzmianki w internecie)
The new Imam of the Grand Mosque of Rome, the largest in Europe, called for
the "victory of Islamic fighters in Palestine, Cechnya and other areas of the
world" in his sermon Friday, June 6. He called for Allah's help in "the
destruction of the homes and destruction of the enemies of Islam". He called
for their "annihilation" and "the victory everywhere of the Nation of Islam."
In a report by Magdi Allam, the Italian columnist of Egyptian origin who
writes regularly about the Arab and Muslim world for the national daily, "La
Repubblica", 32 year old Imam, Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa, is quoted
as having told the correspondent that suicide attacks in Israel are
religiously legitimate, whereas they are not in Saudi Arabia, Morocco or
Italy.
"From an Islamic viewpoint there is no doubt that the operations of the
mujahidin against the Jews in Palestine are legitimate. They are missions of
martyrdom and those who commit them are martyrs of Islam because all
Palestine is a Dar al-harb, a territory of war. This is because all of the
Jewish society illegally occupies an Islamic land."
On the other hand, in Saudi Arabia and Morocco, "Islam condemns attacks
against foreigners who are hosted by the Muslim people. We have an Aqd al-
wafa'a - a Covenant of loyalty with them. We welcomed them and we are
responsible for their physical safety."
By the same token, Muslims living in Italy may not commit terrorist acts
against Italians because an Aqd al-aman - Covenant of Security - binds them
to loyalty to the State that provides for the physical safety of the resident
Muslims.
These, together with rigid invocations against marital infidelity and on the
dependent role of women, were some of the statements made in the sermon and
the subsequent interview. During the sermon, the Imam reportedly also forbade
marriage with Jewish women.
He cited three requirements for marriage with Jewish or Christian women: "1)
they must be chaste, 2) they must be religious, 3) the people of their
religion must not fight Muslims." He concluded, "this is why today marriage
with Jewish women is forbidden."
Imam Moussa was selected by the Egyptian University "Al Azhar", by a tacit
agreement with the Saudi Arabian financed Mosque of Rome. He is described as
inexperienced, with no knowledge of the Italian language.
The Italian Minister of the Interior, Giuseppe Pisanu, in an interview by
Magdi Allam published May 24, said "Italian mosques must be entirely freed of
preachers of violence" adding "I know from bitter experience that the history
of terrorism is a history of political underestimations that lead right up to
the eve of tragedy." (...)
