Gość: kasia IP: 57.66.193.* 19.07.05, 11:20 Witam. Czy ktos jest na tyle w temacie by wyjasnic mi roznice miedzy ACCA a ACA? Pzdr Kasia Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
Gość: bystrzak Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 217.153.180.* 19.07.05, 13:47 ...to proste! Jedno C mniej! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 15:16 ACA to kwalifikacje przyznawne przez The Institute of Chartered Accountants in England & Wales a ACCA przez ACCA:) ACA jest uznawane w UK za bardziej "swojskie" i tradycyjne, ale rowniez bardziej konserwatywne i wymagane najczesciej przy czysto "ksiegowych" robotach. Generalnie jest to jedno i to samo - grunt to byc juz qualified czyli byc "czlonkiem":) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 15:47 ACA jest rowniez uwazane za bardziej prestizowe. Przegladnij oferty na www.monster.co.uk to czasem pojawia sie ze chca ACA ale rozwaza CIMA lub ACCA. Slyszalem jak ktos powiedzial, ze ACCA to nie sa "prawdziwe" kwalifikacje. Ubodlo mnie to do zywego, ale coz.... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: kasia Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 57.66.193.* 19.07.05, 16:09 Czesc Miszczu. Pytam poniewaz mam wkrotce rozmowe kwalifikacyjna i pracodawca oferuje finansowanie kosztow ACA. Domyslam sie, ze bedzie pytanie czemu akurat ACA a sama poki co przegladajac obie strony internetowe roznic nie znalazlam. (jedynie to, ze czesto ACCA robia tez ACA, co mnie zdziwilo :-/) Pozdrawiam Kasia Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 16:54 Moze ten link Ci pomoze - co prawda to o Pakistanie, ale oddaje rowniez to co ludzie mowia na ten temat na Wyspach... www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=582&whichpage=3 W mojej spolce-matce w Irlandi wszyscy sa qualified ale tylko 1 osoba ma ACCA... to troche mowi o tym co jest bardziej prestizowe. Ja mam ACCA i nie czuje kompleksow. To raczej malo prawdopodobne, zeby ktos z ACCA robil jeszcze ACA. To tak jakby ktos skonczyl Akademie Ekonomiczna i potem SGH... W sumie ACCA i ACA to bardzo podobne kwalifikacje rozpoznawane w Wielkiej Brytani (bardziej ACA) i Europie (tu chyba bardziej ACCA), ktore po spelnieniu okreslonych warunkow daja mozliwosc praktykowania jako public accountant Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 16:11 Nikt powazny nie powie ze jedne kwalifikacje sa gorsze od innych. ACA jest w ciaz oparta na UK GAAP, ktory bylo nie bylo jest dinozurem na wymarciu. Ale z drugiej strony jest to kwalifikacja angielska a nie szkocka lub co gorsza jaks "miedzynarodowa" jak ACCA. W mojej firmie (UK) jeden dzal (audyt) popycha ACA, a inne dzialy ktore potrzebuje podobnej wiedzy (TS,Forensic) jedzie ACCA Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 16:56 Poczytaj jakies forum to okaze sie, ze jest duzo ludzi niepowaznych. Requested Message and its responses Name Leighton Subject ACCA/ACA Debate Message I keep hearing the same old thing in my office. Chartered are better than Certified, I am studying ACCA, but certain people think ACA is higher up the ladder than ACCA, I think this is somewhat untrue as to my knowledge ACCA can do everything ACA can do, and what I have been hearing is ACCA is more recognised around the world than ACA. Any fresh input is appreciated. Thanks Date 09/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Polly Subject Neither Message CA from ICAS is the most prestigious qualification - just ask anyone in Scotland ..... To be serious - certainly where I work CA (Scottish) is awarded a higher prestige than ACA which is again awarded a higher prestige than ACCA - but I reckon there is a lot of Institute snobbery going on .... Date 09/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name John Subject "were better than you" Message Dont get too caught up in this whole one upmanship that goes on in the profession. Chartereds look down their noses at everyone, ACCA look down on CIMA etc etc. The point is that ACCA and ACA are both of a very high standard and both are good qualifications with only difference possibly being what youre going to do with the qualification once attained. I will say that i have in the past found chartereds to be quite snobby/cliquey towards the rest of the profession and hence theres never been chance of a merger down to one or two main bodies which would avoid public confusion. Date 10/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Steve Subject MAAT Message I am studying ACCA as well. I have no problem with it as my goal is to get the BSC (Hons) Degree in Applied Accounting through the ACCA/Oxford Brookes Partnership. The organistaion I work for recognises CIMA. As an Accounting technician you are an accounting professional so do not let anyone take that away from you so do not worry about being certified or chartered either. Which ever professional body you join you ave to put a lot of work into regardless. Date 24/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Leighton Subject ACCA/ACA etc Message Thanks for all of your replies, I know that ACCA,ACA all means the same its just the "class rivalry" you get. Thanks Date 25/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Michelle Subject MAAT Message May I ask how you are finding ACCA. It was my original choice of progression until I heard it was very audit orientated. I have recently applied for CIMA membership, as this is what my employer (accountancy pratice specialising in Corporate Finance) has recommended. Any comments you may have would be greatly appreciated. Date 27/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Mart Subject MAAT Message ACCA offers more than one route at its final stage so only one audit exam would be compulsary Date 29/07/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Craig Subject ACCA Message If you're considering studying for ACCA, you may wish to check out the website of the Association for Accounting and Business Affairs: visar.csustan.edu/aaba/accanewspage.html It's run by the Professor of Finance at Essex University, and has a couple of MP's amongst it's trustees. I feel that this is something you ought to know about before commiting your future hopes and ambitions. Don't forget, you can qualify as a CIMA accountant in public practice as well as in industry, as Michelle has indicated above, and in my opinion a Senior Accounting Technician stands comparison with any CCAB accountant. Date 12/08/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name jim Subject comparison Message not in my experience Date 13/08/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Michelle Subject comparison reply Message Jim - please elaborate. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts. Thanks Date 14/08/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Someone Somewhere Subject ACCA/ACA Message It is right we shouldn't enter into a debate over whose better - just be content with what you've chosen and make the best you can out of it. However, in my experience there is nothing worse than an auditor, usually ACA, leaving practice and coming into the business world. They just don't have a clue to the real world because for years they been following check lists and following manuals etc its messed their heads up - too short sighted for my liking. They always struggle with decisions made for commercial reasons how many times have you been repeatly questioned because they can't comprehend what has happened and christ now they're your colleague/boss!!! Sound familiar? So forget whether your ACCA or ACA or even CIMA just don't ever be like an ex- auditor ;) Date 19/08/2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Jim Greenwood Subject One comment Message I qualified AAT and then ACCA. I have worked in firms of chartered accountants and trained ACAs. The ACA students are told that they are doing the premier qualification and never look at another paper. When one of the ACA students needed some additional help in tax I offered to let her see an ACCA paper and answers. She was surprised at the level of the paper. One lecturer once described the position (as it was five or so years ago), which do you want to do, a narrower syllabus that goes into greater depth (ACA) or a much wider syllabus that cannot go into the same depth (ACCA). Date 01/09/2002 Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 17:10 przeczytalem i nic z tego nie wynika - nikt tam nie twierdzi ze ACA ma wyzsza renome tylko ze ktos cos slyszal. Nikt powazny nie bedzie nic insynuowac, bo mozna za to wyleciec i z ICAEW, i z ACCA. Czy ktos, szczegolnie w UK bedzie twierdzil ze CA z RPA jest gorsze od np. ACCA - nonsens. Istotne jest to zdanie: "narrower syllabus that goes into greater depth (ACA) or a much wider syllabus that cannot go into the same depth (ACCA)" - zgadzam sie z tym w 100% Jak ktos komus chce fundowac nauke to nie ma sie co zastanawiac. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 17:21 PAS... dalsze posty uwazam za bezcelowe Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś