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    IP: 57.66.193.* 19.07.05, 11:20
    Witam.

    Czy ktos jest na tyle w temacie by wyjasnic mi roznice miedzy ACCA a ACA?

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      • Gość: bystrzak Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 217.153.180.* 19.07.05, 13:47
        ...to proste! Jedno C mniej!
        • Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 15:16
          ACA to kwalifikacje przyznawne przez The Institute of Chartered Accountants in
          England & Wales a ACCA przez ACCA:)

          ACA jest uznawane w UK za bardziej "swojskie" i tradycyjne, ale rowniez
          bardziej konserwatywne i wymagane najczesciej przy czysto "ksiegowych"
          robotach.
          Generalnie jest to jedno i to samo - grunt to byc juz qualified czyli
          byc "czlonkiem":)
          • Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 15:47
            ACA jest rowniez uwazane za bardziej prestizowe. Przegladnij oferty na
            www.monster.co.uk to czasem pojawia sie ze chca ACA ale rozwaza CIMA lub ACCA.

            Slyszalem jak ktos powiedzial, ze ACCA to nie sa "prawdziwe" kwalifikacje.
            Ubodlo mnie to do zywego, ale coz....
            • Gość: kasia Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 57.66.193.* 19.07.05, 16:09
              Czesc Miszczu.
              Pytam poniewaz mam wkrotce rozmowe kwalifikacyjna i pracodawca oferuje
              finansowanie kosztow ACA. Domyslam sie, ze bedzie pytanie czemu akurat ACA a
              sama poki co przegladajac obie strony internetowe roznic nie znalazlam.
              (jedynie to, ze czesto ACCA robia tez ACA, co mnie zdziwilo :-/)
              Pozdrawiam
              Kasia
              • Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 16:54
                Moze ten link Ci pomoze - co prawda to o Pakistanie, ale oddaje rowniez to co
                ludzie mowia na ten temat na Wyspach...
                www.accountancy.com.pk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=582&whichpage=3
                W mojej spolce-matce w Irlandi wszyscy sa qualified ale tylko 1 osoba ma
                ACCA... to troche mowi o tym co jest bardziej prestizowe. Ja mam ACCA i nie
                czuje kompleksow.

                To raczej malo prawdopodobne, zeby ktos z ACCA robil jeszcze ACA. To tak jakby
                ktos skonczyl Akademie Ekonomiczna i potem SGH...

                W sumie ACCA i ACA to bardzo podobne kwalifikacje rozpoznawane w Wielkiej
                Brytani (bardziej ACA) i Europie (tu chyba bardziej ACCA), ktore po spelnieniu
                okreslonych warunkow daja mozliwosc praktykowania jako public accountant

            • Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 16:11
              Nikt powazny nie powie ze jedne kwalifikacje sa gorsze od innych. ACA jest w
              ciaz oparta na UK GAAP, ktory bylo nie bylo jest dinozurem na wymarciu. Ale z
              drugiej strony jest to kwalifikacja angielska a nie szkocka lub co gorsza
              jaks "miedzynarodowa" jak ACCA.
              W mojej firmie (UK) jeden dzal (audyt) popycha ACA, a inne dzialy ktore
              potrzebuje podobnej wiedzy (TS,Forensic) jedzie ACCA
              • Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 16:56
                Poczytaj jakies forum to okaze sie, ze jest duzo ludzi niepowaznych.


                Requested Message and its responses
                Name Leighton
                Subject ACCA/ACA Debate
                Message I keep hearing the same old thing in my office. Chartered are better
                than Certified, I am studying ACCA, but certain people think ACA is higher up
                the ladder than ACCA, I think this is somewhat untrue as to my knowledge ACCA
                can do everything ACA can do, and what I have been hearing is ACCA is more
                recognised around the world than ACA. Any fresh input is appreciated. Thanks
                Date 09/07/2002

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                Name Polly
                Subject Neither
                Message CA from ICAS is the most prestigious qualification - just ask anyone in
                Scotland ..... To be serious - certainly where I work CA (Scottish) is awarded
                a higher prestige than ACA which is again awarded a higher prestige than ACCA -
                but I reckon there is a lot of Institute snobbery going on ....
                Date 09/07/2002

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                Name John
                Subject "were better than you"
                Message Dont get too caught up in this whole one upmanship that goes on in the
                profession. Chartereds look down their noses at everyone, ACCA look down on
                CIMA etc etc. The point is that ACCA and ACA are both of a very high standard
                and both are good qualifications with only difference possibly being what youre
                going to do with the qualification once attained. I will say that i have in the
                past found chartereds to be quite snobby/cliquey towards the rest of the
                profession and hence theres never been chance of a merger down to one or two
                main bodies which would avoid public confusion.
                Date 10/07/2002

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                Name Steve
                Subject MAAT
                Message I am studying ACCA as well. I have no problem with it as my goal is to
                get the BSC (Hons) Degree in Applied Accounting through the ACCA/Oxford Brookes
                Partnership. The organistaion I work for recognises CIMA. As an Accounting
                technician you are an accounting professional so do not let anyone take that
                away from you so do not worry about being certified or chartered either. Which
                ever professional body you join you ave to put a lot of work into regardless.
                Date 24/07/2002

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                Name Leighton
                Subject ACCA/ACA etc
                Message Thanks for all of your replies, I know that ACCA,ACA all means the same
                its just the "class rivalry" you get. Thanks
                Date 25/07/2002

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                Name Michelle
                Subject MAAT
                Message May I ask how you are finding ACCA. It was my original choice of
                progression until I heard it was very audit orientated. I have recently applied
                for CIMA membership, as this is what my employer (accountancy pratice
                specialising in Corporate Finance) has recommended. Any comments you may have
                would be greatly appreciated.
                Date 27/07/2002

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                Name Mart
                Subject MAAT
                Message ACCA offers more than one route at its final stage so only one audit
                exam would be compulsary
                Date 29/07/2002

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                Name Craig
                Subject ACCA
                Message If you're considering studying for ACCA, you may wish to check out the
                website of the Association for Accounting and Business Affairs:
                visar.csustan.edu/aaba/accanewspage.html It's run by the Professor of
                Finance at Essex University, and has a couple of MP's amongst it's trustees. I
                feel that this is something you ought to know about before commiting your
                future hopes and ambitions. Don't forget, you can qualify as a CIMA accountant
                in public practice as well as in industry, as Michelle has indicated above, and
                in my opinion a Senior Accounting Technician stands comparison with any CCAB
                accountant.
                Date 12/08/2002

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                Name jim
                Subject comparison
                Message not in my experience
                Date 13/08/2002

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                Name Michelle
                Subject comparison reply
                Message Jim - please elaborate. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts.
                Thanks
                Date 14/08/2002

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                Name Someone Somewhere
                Subject ACCA/ACA
                Message It is right we shouldn't enter into a debate over whose better - just
                be content with what you've chosen and make the best you can out of it.
                However, in my experience there is nothing worse than an auditor, usually ACA,
                leaving practice and coming into the business world. They just don't have a
                clue to the real world because for years they been following check lists and
                following manuals etc its messed their heads up - too short sighted for my
                liking. They always struggle with decisions made for commercial reasons how
                many times have you been repeatly questioned because they can't comprehend what
                has happened and christ now they're your colleague/boss!!! Sound familiar? So
                forget whether your ACCA or ACA or even CIMA just don't ever be like an ex-
                auditor ;)
                Date 19/08/2002

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                Name Jim Greenwood
                Subject One comment
                Message I qualified AAT and then ACCA. I have worked in firms of chartered
                accountants and trained ACAs. The ACA students are told that they are doing the
                premier qualification and never look at another paper. When one of the ACA
                students needed some additional help in tax I offered to let her see an ACCA
                paper and answers. She was surprised at the level of the paper. One lecturer
                once described the position (as it was five or so years ago), which do you want
                to do, a narrower syllabus that goes into greater depth (ACA) or a much wider
                syllabus that cannot go into the same depth (ACCA).
                Date 01/09/2002
                • Gość: DRAB Re: ACCA / ACA IP: 158.180.64.* 19.07.05, 17:10
                  przeczytalem i nic z tego nie wynika - nikt tam nie twierdzi ze ACA ma wyzsza
                  renome tylko ze ktos cos slyszal. Nikt powazny nie bedzie nic insynuowac, bo
                  mozna za to wyleciec i z ICAEW, i z ACCA.
                  Czy ktos, szczegolnie w UK bedzie twierdzil ze CA z RPA jest gorsze od np.
                  ACCA - nonsens.
                  Istotne jest to zdanie: "narrower syllabus that goes into greater depth (ACA)
                  or a much wider syllabus that cannot go into the same depth (ACCA)" - zgadzam
                  sie z tym w 100%

                  Jak ktos komus chce fundowac nauke to nie ma sie co zastanawiac.
                  • Gość: Miszczu Re: ACCA / ACA IP: *.mentorg.com 19.07.05, 17:21
                    PAS... dalsze posty uwazam za bezcelowe
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