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    23.06.04, 15:00
    I don't know if I should laugh or cry. What's wrong with you? When reading (well, having your posts translated to me), I can't believe what I'm hearing. Are you all nuts? Did you see the match at all?

    Maybe this will upset you, but I'll say it anyway - Even if Poland is one of the most corrupted countries in Europe (see Transparency International) it doesn't mean that you have to consider everyone else corrupted, too. You know others as you know yourself. The match was a match between two teams who wanted to winn. Allthough Denmark played the better football (this time), they did not manage to beat Sweden. But this is football. UEFA found nothing wrong with the match, and most newspapers (outside Poland and Italy) agrees.

    But hey, they are not such great experts as you guys.
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      • nancyboy Re: Paranoid! 23.06.04, 15:25
        Ison, you have no proof that the game was honest, we have no proof, that it
        wasn't. So, we can just argue forever.
        I'm not blaming Sweden or Denmark. I blame the UEFA system, which creates such
        situations, when both teams from one game, will be rewarded by achieving a
        certain result.
        • lson Re: Paranoid! 23.06.04, 15:43
          Correct, I have no proof that it was not a honest match. However, I think it is customary to assume innocence until guilt is proven. And there was nothing in the match that suggested that it was fixed. Nothing. The UEFA system is as it is, but it has nothing to do with the result of the match. The team played and 2-2 was the result (allthough, Denmark for sure played the better fotball). The teams did not try to 'achieve a certain' result. They wanted to winn, both of them. That the last minute turned out as it did is natural. It would happen in any match. With one minute to go... why risk anything? If this is supposed to be corruption, then I don't know what to say.

          Another person made a comment in the forum, saying something like "Is it not possible to eliminate Italy without being blamed for corruption?"

          I think this says it all.
          • Gość: drozd Re: Paranoid! IP: 213.241.71.* 23.06.04, 16:12
            I very happy that Italian was out form tournament. They can't shoot the goal to
            Denmark, they can't win with Sweden and have a big trouble with Bulgarian. his
            ancient futbol play.
            BUT. You say: "And there was nothing in the match that suggested that it was
            fixed. Nothing." So what you say about last goal? About this ball? This is teh
            GREAT PROOF.
            • lson Re: Paranoid! 23.06.04, 16:49
              What did Denmark gain by leting Sweden equalize? They lost the first position in the group. Do you really believe that they set that up? To let Sweden score? In such a way? No, this is just a bunch nonsense. Pure nonsense. Nothing but nonsense. If this is what you call 'the GREAT PROOF', then you don't have a case. Denmark and Sweden played 2-2 and that's that. Your conspiracy theories are funny. Get real.
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