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szpilberg Go Izrael!!! 21.07.02, 17:28

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From the US with love - an interview with a volunteer to the IDF reserve forces
An interview with Professor Alan Leventen, vice president of a multinational
corporation and a soldier in Jenin. Leventen, an American Jew which was
stationed in Jenin, reveals his motives for volunteering to the IDF reserve
forces and discusses American public opinions in the aftermath of the terror
attack on the WTC.

How would you describe your relationship with Israel?
- Every Jew in the world has his own unique relationship with the State of
Israel and it's very difficult to really describe it in an objective way
because it's so personal it's almost indescribable. My relationship is just as
indescribable as every other patriotic Israeli.

Would you describe yourself as a Zionist?
- I always describe myself a Zionist. I was born a Zionist and I will die a
Zionist I come here [Israel] as a part of my work and a lifestyle. It's like a
second home to me. I've always felt that I'm a part of this country.

How do you recall your regular service in Israel?
- It was the greatest challenge of my life. I've never had a challenge like I
had when I was in the regular service. Every bit of my strength, every bit of
my energy, every bit of my skills was put to the test. They took someone who
was wild and hyperactive and developed it into a disciplined soldier in a very
comprehensive way. When I left the army, my whole life had changed in a
positive way because I and my comrades, a little bit wild and full of hormones
were converted into disciplined adult men.

How did you become a medic?
- I became cross-trained as a medic not so much because I took the medics'
course I studied in my free time how to be a medic.

Did you use this knowledge later in your life?
- All the time. I use it when I'm in the US and there's a traffic accident or
somebody collapses I try and help people as much as I can. It's something
which I've used many times since the army.

What drove you to volunteer to the reserve service?
- There are many reasons [for volunteering]. We are doing it part in response
for the refuseniks, because as a matter of principle, we feel that that was a
grotesque abrogation of their duty as soldiers and citizens of the country, so
our response to that grotesqueness was to stand forth and stand up for what we
consider to be freedom and the ongoing existence of the State of Israel. The
other part is because we know that the country is at war, just like the world
is at war, and we wanted to do what we can. The third thing is we have a dream
that maybe, just maybe, we might stop a terrorist attack. You have a
tremendous sense of satisfaction to be able to have stopped the murder of
innocent people who are your fellow citizens. And the other thing is that I
think all of us feel that we can take some of the pressure off of younger
regular soldier.

Where were you stationed?
- I was in Jenin.

Had the terror attack on the US influenced on your will to volunteer?
- Yes it did. First of all, had September 11th never happened, I still would
have volunteered. The terror attack on the US made it a moral commitment. When
I found out about the program for the volunteers, I knew I have to do it. What
happened in Nine-Eleven just brought home the issue that this is a global war
on terror. It's not just Israel's war, it's a war between two civilizations,
two cultures. It's a conflict of two different belief systems in the core of
the belief systems. When I come here to fight for Israel, I was also fighting
for my wife, colleagues and fellow citizens in NY. It doesn't matter where you
fight them. You can fight them in Afghanistan, you can fight them in Jenin: it
doesn't matter - it's all a part of this global war on terror. The difference
is that as a Jew and also as an Israeli it became much more poignant to me to
want to do it here.

You mentioned your colleagues. How did they react to your volunteering?
- Almost everybody in my department was extraordinarily supportive. Everybody
feels strongly that this is a war for freedom. I never heard of felt any
[objections] whatsoever. If anything, I feel overwhelmed by the amount of
support from the people that I work with and the NY community. I feel that
when I fight here as a soldier I'm also fighting as a representative of the
firemen and policemen of NY.
We are all on the same ship. One must protect it to continue sailing.

What about your wife? How did your family react to the situation?
- My wife suffers, like thousands of people, from trauma related to September
11th. She has felt very strongly about this thing just as I do, but the
difference is, in her case she's also dealing with rage. Doing what I'm doing
is therapy not just for me but it's also therapy for her.

You're 49 years old. Don't you feel limited by your age?
- I've always been a very good soldier. Yes, I can't run as fast, and do some
of the things the regulars do. But all of us volunteers were very proud to
personally give a personal example. I felt perfectly capable of doing the job
I did.

How do you deal with the switch from being a professor and the vice president
of a multinational corporation to being a soldier?
- When I was a soldier in the paratroops I was taught to be professional, to
be devoted. Today, when I teach as a professor I try to be the best professor
I can be; When I'm working in Wall Street I try to do the absolutely best job
and I'm committed to doing the best job that I can and when I'm a soldier I
act in the most professional way that I can as a soldier. This commitment to
every detail of what you're doing came from when I was in regular service 30
years ago.

Do you feel there is a greater awareness among American Jews regarding Israel?
- I think there's not only a greater awareness among American Jews, but
there's also a greater awareness and commitment to Israel by many American
Christians. I think it's an American ideal as opposed to just a Jewish-
American ideal.

Would you like to deliver a personal message to the people of Israel today?
- The message that I would make is this: for the first time in history we have
a president of the US and a Prime Minister of Israel who understand the big
problem in the world today. Whenever you have leaders who understand the
problem, you're probably 80% along the way to solving the problem, which is
the reason why I'm optimistic.

What has been your contact with the local population? How would you describe
the attitude of the Palestinians towards you?
- I did have a lot of interaction with the local population in the area around
Jenin. They don't love us, that is clear. [However,] I think many of them feel
very frustrated with their own leadership or what they thought was their
leadership. They may feel a little bit abandoned by their own leaders. At some
point I think it's likely they're [the Palestinians] going to become much more
realistic about their situation and realize that Israel has not been the
source of their problems [but] a co-victim of their problem, which has been
their leadership. Until they get leadership which is going to truly represent
their best interests, they, like the Israelis are going to be in a state of
mutual suffering.

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Gość: pyttong Re: Go Izrael!!! IP: 213.77.40.* 21.07.02, 17:08

TaaaK!!! Zniszczmy arabstwo, dopóki nie jest za późno - inaczej oni zniszczą
nas, w ramach wojny z niewiernymi. Dżihad już się zaczął - Izrael dzielnie się
broni przed tą dziką nawałą. GO Israel! GO USA!
- szpilberg Go Izrael!!! 21.07.02, 17:28
  
  www.idf.il/newsite/english/main.asp
  From the US with love - an interview with a volunteer to the IDF reserve forces
  An interview with Professor Alan Leventen, vice president of a multinational
  corporation and a soldier in Jenin. Leventen, an American Jew which was
  stationed in Jenin, reveals his motives for volunteering to the IDF reserve
  forces and discusses American public opinions in the aftermath of the terror
  attack on the WTC.
  
  How would you describe your relationship with Israel?
  - Every Jew in the world has his own unique relationship with the State of
  Israel and it's very difficult to really describe it in an objective way
  because it's so personal it's almost indescribable. My relationship is just as
  indescribable as every other patriotic Israeli.
  
  Would you describe yourself as a Zionist?
  - I always describe myself a Zionist. I was born a Zionist and I will die a
  Zionist I come here [Israel] as a part of my work and a lifestyle. It's like a
  second home to me. I've always felt that I'm a part of this country.
  
  How do you recall your regular service in Israel?
  - It was the greatest challenge of my life. I've never had a challenge like I
  had when I was in the regular service. Every bit of my strength, every bit of
  my energy, every bit of my skills was put to the test. They took someone who
  was wild and hyperactive and developed it into a disciplined soldier in a very
  comprehensive way. When I left the army, my whole life had changed in a
  positive way because I and my comrades, a little bit wild and full of hormones
  were converted into disciplined adult men.
  
  How did you become a medic?
  - I became cross-trained as a medic not so much because I took the medics'
  course I studied in my free time how to be a medic.
  
  Did you use this knowledge later in your life?
  - All the time. I use it when I'm in the US and there's a traffic accident or
  somebody collapses I try and help people as much as I can. It's something
  which I've used many times since the army.
  
  What drove you to volunteer to the reserve service?
  - There are many reasons [for volunteering]. We are doing it part in response
  for the refuseniks, because as a matter of principle, we feel that that was a
  grotesque abrogation of their duty as soldiers and citizens of the country, so
  our response to that grotesqueness was to stand forth and stand up for what we
  consider to be freedom and the ongoing existence of the State of Israel. The
  other part is because we know that the country is at war, just like the world
  is at war, and we wanted to do what we can. The third thing is we have a dream
  that maybe, just maybe, we might stop a terrorist attack. You have a
  tremendous sense of satisfaction to be able to have stopped the murder of
  innocent people who are your fellow citizens. And the other thing is that I
  think all of us feel that we can take some of the pressure off of younger
  regular soldier.
  
  Where were you stationed?
  - I was in Jenin.
  
  Had the terror attack on the US influenced on your will to volunteer?
  - Yes it did. First of all, had September 11th never happened, I still would
  have volunteered. The terror attack on the US made it a moral commitment. When
  I found out about the program for the volunteers, I knew I have to do it. What
  happened in Nine-Eleven just brought home the issue that this is a global war
  on terror. It's not just Israel's war, it's a war between two civilizations,
  two cultures. It's a conflict of two different belief systems in the core of
  the belief systems. When I come here to fight for Israel, I was also fighting
  for my wife, colleagues and fellow citizens in NY. It doesn't matter where you
  fight them. You can fight them in Afghanistan, you can fight them in Jenin: it
  doesn't matter - it's all a part of this global war on terror. The difference
  is that as a Jew and also as an Israeli it became much more poignant to me to
  want to do it here.
  
  You mentioned your colleagues. How did they react to your volunteering?
  - Almost everybody in my department was extraordinarily supportive. Everybody
  feels strongly that this is a war for freedom. I never heard of felt any
  [objections] whatsoever. If anything, I feel overwhelmed by the amount of
  support from the people that I work with and the NY community. I feel that
  when I fight here as a soldier I'm also fighting as a representative of the
  firemen and policemen of NY.
  We are all on the same ship. One must protect it to continue sailing.
  
  What about your wife? How did your family react to the situation?
  - My wife suffers, like thousands of people, from trauma related to September
  11th. She has felt very strongly about this thing just as I do, but the
  difference is, in her case she's also dealing with rage. Doing what I'm doing
  is therapy not just for me but it's also therapy for her.
  
  You're 49 years old. Don't you feel limited by your age?
  - I've always been a very good soldier. Yes, I can't run as fast, and do some
  of the things the regulars do. But all of us volunteers were very proud to
  personally give a personal example. I felt perfectly capable of doing the job
  I did.
  
  How do you deal with the switch from being a professor and the vice president
  of a multinational corporation to being a soldier?
  - When I was a soldier in the paratroops I was taught to be professional, to
  be devoted. Today, when I teach as a professor I try to be the best professor
  I can be; When I'm working in Wall Street I try to do the absolutely best job
  and I'm committed to doing the best job that I can and when I'm a soldier I
  act in the most professional way that I can as a soldier. This commitment to
  every detail of what you're doing came from when I was in regular service 30
  years ago.
  
  Do you feel there is a greater awareness among American Jews regarding Israel?
  - I think there's not only a greater awareness among American Jews, but
  there's also a greater awareness and commitment to Israel by many American
  Christians. I think it's an American ideal as opposed to just a Jewish-
  American ideal.
  
  Would you like to deliver a personal message to the people of Israel today?
  - The message that I would make is this: for the first time in history we have
  a president of the US and a Prime Minister of Israel who understand the big
  problem in the world today. Whenever you have leaders who understand the
  problem, you're probably 80% along the way to solving the problem, which is
  the reason why I'm optimistic.
  
  What has been your contact with the local population? How would you describe
  the attitude of the Palestinians towards you?
  - I did have a lot of interaction with the local population in the area around
  Jenin. They don't love us, that is clear. [However,] I think many of them feel
  very frustrated with their own leadership or what they thought was their
  leadership. They may feel a little bit abandoned by their own leaders. At some
  point I think it's likely they're [the Palestinians] going to become much more
  realistic about their situation and realize that Israel has not been the
  source of their problems [but] a co-victim of their problem, which has been
  their leadership. Until they get leadership which is going to truly represent
  their best interests, they, like the Israelis are going to be in a state of
  mutual suffering.
  - Gość: MeF prośba o streszczenie lub tłumaczenie IP: *.bielsko.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 21.07.02, 18:16
    
    Fajne, ale nie przez wszystko się przebijam. Mógłbyś streścić lub przetłumaczyć
    - Gość: Riva Re: prośba o streszczenie lub tłumaczenie IP: *.proxy.aol.com 21.07.02, 18:20
      
      Gość portalu: MeF napisał(a):
      
      > Fajne, ale nie przez wszystko się przebijam. Mógłbyś streścić lub
      przetłumaczyć
      Do szkoly petaku !!!
    - drf .......................odpowiedz negatywna 21.07.02, 18:49
      
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      E6&la=AND&pole=podpis&max=10&sioTytul=finder+forum&sort=tresc&szuk=forum&str=5
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