Cena złudzeń

[11111]

Polacy pamiętają barbarzynskie bombardowania we wrześniu 1939 roku i zupełną
bezczynność świata, Polska rozumie teraz ludzi z Libanu, masakrowanych przez
izraelskich terrorystów, i pozostawionych samym sobie przez świat, który nic
nie robi by im pomóc.

[mannaznieba4]

powiedzenie do gazu to za mało!!!!

Rozejm na warunkach Hezbollahu (bo tylko

[hanyska2]

takie zdaja sie wchodzic w gre) bylby poddaniem sie Izraela. Ustapieniem wobec
agresji islamistow arabskich. Odwrotem spod Berlina, gdy zwyciestwo jest w
zasiegu wzroku. Tylko Izrael moze zrobic porzadek z H. Zadne sily
miedzynarodowe nie kiwnely dotychczas palcem, gdy kassamy i katiusze zasypywaly
izraelskich cywilow. I co uczynia Turcy i Egipcjanie wyslanie pzrez NATO, aby
pomoc ..."syjonistom" i kafirom. NIC!
Go Israel, go!

Kofi Annan od dawna jest rzecznikiem Hezbollahu

[hanyska2]

No prosze - powinni sie jeszcze bartersko pocalowac jak Brezniew z Honneckerem:

www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/07/24/competition-time-again/

Dobra analiza madrej Melanie

[hanyska2]

www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/07/26/the-war-against-israel/#more-384

powinni się spotkać w Monachium

[eva15]

Jak appeasement to appeasement

Ty jak juz cos powiesz, to jak golab na parapet!

[hanyska2]

Premier Iraku ostro krytykuje Izrael!

[3m05]

"Maliki sharply criticized Israel last week for its response to Hezbollah
attacks on Israeli territory".

Ten to ma prawo kogokolwiek krytykowac! Ilu dzis

[hanyska2]

wysadzono w Iraku?

[eva15]

A kto wsadził na stołek rząd kolaboracyjny, którego nikt nie chce i go
ignoruje? Na co ten rząd ma wpływ, kto go słucha?

Izrael potrzebuje wojny - to oczywiste

[woparachgazu]

W rozmowach Izrael nie ma szans, bo jakie argumenty może przedstawić złodziej?

Klamstwo

[antypacyfista]

Jezeli ktos tu jest zlodziejem i bandyta to Arabowie w 632 roku naszej ery
podbili ogniem i mieczem Palestyne, a nastepnie przez prawie 1500 islamizowali.

Ci arabscy zlodzieje ukradli naszej cywilizacji takze cala polnocna Afryke,
Syrie, obecny Irak oraz Hiszpanie i Balkany - te 2 ostatnie rejony cale
szczescie udalo sie odzyskac.

Teraz islamisci kradna Liban, ktory jeszcze 10-20 lat temu byl w wiekszosci
chrzescijanski, a z ktorego teraz chrzesijanie uciekaja dzieki Hezbollahowi.
Powtarza sie scenariusz przetestowany na calym bliskim wschodzie - a byl on
kiedys w wiekszosci chrzescijanski.

Klamstwo? Taaak - twoje...

[babariba-babariba]

Przypomnij nam tu boża krówko jeden choćby pogrom antyżydowki w imperium
ottomańskim...
Ninawiść między Żydami i Arabami tak naprawdę zaczęła się w czasach, kiedy
Europa i Ameryka postanowiły się pozbyć wyrzutów sumienia po holokauście i
'dały' Żydom Niderlandy, czyli Palestynę. A potem wszystkim korzystającym z
Prawa Powrotu - Lebensraum trzeba było jakoś zapewnić.

Polska solidarnie stanie po stronie Izraela

[piotr228]

Polska doskonale pamięta co znaczy (zd)radziecki atak. Pod naporem niemiecko
sowieckim nie mieliśmy szans. Sytuacja Izraela jest inna. Izrael ma dość
potężną armię aby odeprzeć atak islamskich faszystów. Islamscy zbrodniarze
chętnie dokonują ataków rakietowych z okolic gęsto zamieszkałych, albo spod
posterunku ONZ, po to aby spowodować jak największą międzynarodową presję. Ten
brak poszanowania dla życia własnych ludzi ze strony islamistów jest znamienny.
Wolą aby Liban został zmieciony z powierzchni Ziemi byle oni mogli wystrzeliwać
rakiety na Izrael.

Najprawdopodobniej Hezbollah, Hamas i AlKaida liczą na wywołanie globalnego
konfliktu, z którego zwycięsko wyjdzie rewolucja islamska i jej ideologia.
NIEDOCZEKANIE !!!!

Polska zachowa neutralność, życzliwym okiem patrząc na wysiłki Izraela.
Oczywiście wszyscy ludzie dobrej woli żałują i modlą się za cywilne ofiary
konfliktu, pamiętając że winę za to ponoszą islamiści.

kogokolwiek nie zapytam - popiera Liban i Palestyn

[indymedia]

wiec nie pieprzcie towarzyszu,ze Polacy popieraja faszystowski Izrael...

Faszystowscy to sa islamisci

[antypacyfista]

A jak sie pyta samych lewakow ktorzy chca zaglady wlasnej cywilizacji i
islamizacji Europy a do tego sa wscieklymi antysemitami to nic dziwnego

Izrael popieraja wszyscy myslacy ludzie

[hanyska2]

Zwlaszca, gdy sami dostapili rozkoszy wspolzycia z muzulmanami - Czarni z
Sudanu, oraz Darfuru, Hindusi, chrzescijanie, apostaci z islamu.

Oto zdjecia z 2-ch demonatracji - pro i anty-izraelskiej - pozostawia wnioski
Wam:

www.moonbatmedia.com
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Nawet wlasne dzieci gotowi poswiecic, aby zniszczy

[hanyska2]

c Izrael! Tak zachowuja sie cywilizowani ludzie?

www.frontpagemag.com/media/slideshowimages/001.htm
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Polacy popieraja Izrael!

[antypacyfista]

Wszyscy porzadni Polacy popieraja prawo Izraela do obrony swoich obywateli.
Tylko chorobliwi antysemici moga myslec inaczej. W koncu Izrael jest oaza
zachodniej, europejskiej, judeochrzescijanskiej cywilizacji - NASZEJ
CYWILIZACJI w morzu islamskiego zacofania. Oni (Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, Syria)
sa silni tylko i wylacznie dochodami z ropy, ktora doslownie im spadla z nieba -
bez ropy dalej by pasali wielblady na pustyni - przeciez cala historia dowodzi
ze krajow arabskich/islamskich na nic innego nie stac.

[woparachgazu]

ALE CO TO JEST JUDEO - CHRZESCIJANIZM ???

Od lat te ludzkie kanalie, amerykanskie zydostwo propaguje Amerykanskim
bezmozgowcom ze ich zydowska religia to jest Judeo-Chrystian religia.

Co roku z okazji Bozego Narodzenia warto przypomniec tej ludzkiej padlinie ze
to oni torturowali Jezusa Chrystusa, podobnie jak dzis torturuja Palestynczykow
i Libanczykow, i ze to oni zamordowali w okrutny sposob Jezusa Chrystusa
podobnie tak jak dzis w sadystyczny sposob morduja Libanczykow.

To jest najwyzszy stopien zwyrodnienia nazywac sie dzis Judeo-Chrzescijanskimi
wyznawcami.

Oj żydki, żydki… trzymajcie z łaski swojej te swoje mycki i obrzezane pały
daleko od katolików.

[aradian]

Wszyscy porządni Polacy są przeciwni jakiejkolwiek agresji.Możemy w każdej
chwili w masowych protestach w całej Polsce wyrazić nasz sprzeciw, aby ci którzy
przypisują nam solidaryzowanie się z agresorem uświadomili sobie jakie są w tej
materii nastroje.

czy europejczycy maja zamiar umierac za izrael

[mobileinmobili]

czli nowa sila hisbolach z prawem weta, demoluje calazachodnia demokracje.
Nasze mundralki obraduja, Annan blaga: Kochani, nie mozemy sie rozejsc bez wynikow, Izrael i USA wspanialomyslnie zgodzilyby sie na wojska NATO, czy ONZ, w ogole na jakies tam wojska, byle nie gineli wlasni zolnierze, byleby dalo sie wciagnac w problemy agresora, Izraela, caly natowski swiat. Juz sie chlopcy z wszystkich europejskich krajow ciesza na zadyme z rebeliantami, ktorzy maja morale walki 100 razy wieksze, niz przecietny natowiec. O widzimy to juz w agfganistanie, gdzie kozodupcy, stracaja helikoptery, jak dojrzale jablka z drewa.Rebelianci walcza o swoja ojczyzne, czego tem beda bronic Francuzi, Niemcy, Holendrzy? W takim wypadku bezsilna Unia powinna zrobic europesjkie referendum, czy mamay gninac z izrael? juz ciekawam wynikow.

Czy ktos jeszcze je ma?

[hanyska2]

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[3m05]

"Hezbollah enjoys utmost prestige in Lebanon, because it freed our country. All
over the Arab world you hear: Hezbollah maintains Arab honor, and even though it
(Hezbollah) is very small, it stands up to Israel". (Prezydent Libanu)

Czyli prezydent Libanu otwarcie popiera terror!

[hanyska2]

Najbardziej jednak rozbawila mnie point:
"SPIEGEL: Please explain your relationship to Hezbollah. What do you think of
Hassan Nasrallah?

Lahoud: Hezbollah enjoys utmost prestige in Lebanon, because it freed our
country. All over the Arab world you hear: Hezbollah maintains Arab honor, and
even though it (Hezbollah) is very small, it stands up to Israel. And of course
Nasrallah has my respect.

SPIEGEL: The United Nations want to defuse the problem through a massive
deployment of international troops in southern Lebanon.

Lahoud: That is an old proposal, which is hardly achievable. As long as the
conflict between Lebanon and Israel remains unresolved, no international force
will help, however large it may be. The problems smoulder on: the undetermined
status of the Schebaa Farms, the Lebanese prisoners in Israel and above all the
Palestinian refugees in Lebanon.

SPIEGEL: Why the Palestinians?

Lahoud: We have today around half a million Palestinian refugees in Lebanon,
their birth rate is three times higher than the Lebanese. That is a time bomb.
It is the basic problem of our country, it led to the outbreak of civil war in
1975 and still remains unsolved today. Everybody today is talking about UN
resolution 1559, but nobody mentions resolution 194, which recognizes the
Palestinians' right of return (to Israel). Lebanon is small and can't integrate
the Palestinians."

Nawet Lahoudowi sie wypsnelo, jak Arabowie kochaja swych palestynskich
pobratymcow! Cha cha! Chcailby nimi uszczesliwic "wielki" Izrael!

A kto przyjmie z powrotem tych 800 tysiecy Zydow wypedzonych w jednej koszuli z
panstw arabskich w 48???

[3m05]

"UN peacekeepers in south Lebanon contacted Israeli troops 10 times before an
Israeli bomb killed four of them, an initial UN report says".

Izrael kontra reszta swiata?

[eva15]

3m05 napisała:
> Izrael kontra reszta swiata?

Z USA u boku. Gdyby nie to sytuacja wyglądałaby zupełenie inaczej.

[lungompa]

Jasne, ze sytuacja wygladala by inaczej - i ty tez eva15 bys wygladala inaczej -
no wiesz czarna burka kapcie itd. A maz z przydzialu wybil by ci lewackie
glupoty grubym kijem (ale nie martw sie, nie wszystkie rozrywki by ci odebrano -
nadal mogla bys nienawidzic USA).

[woparachgazu]

rabi, te bajery możesz wstawiac w Izraelu albo bezmózgowcom w US.
Żydowscy rzeżnicy to gołąbki pokoju, ha, ha. To ile będzie dzisiaj trupów
dzieci, a ile dorosłych Libanczyków?

peruka lepsza od chusty???

[eva15]

lungompa napisała:

> Jasne, ze sytuacja wygladala by inaczej - i ty tez eva15 bys wygladala
inaczej no wiesz czarna burka kapcie itd.

A czy to taka wielka dla kobiety różnica przykrywać gorszące moralność włosy
chustą (islam) albo peruką u mężatek (judaizm)???

Lekarze: Izrael uzywa broni chemicznej

[melipol]

Israel using chemical weapons: doctors
Lebanon is investigating reports from doctors that Israel has used weapons in
its 15-day-old bombardment of southern Lebanon that have caused wounds they
have never seen before.

"We are sending off samples tomorrow, but we have no confirmation yet that
illegal weapons have been used," Health Minister Mohammed Khalife said.

The Israeli army said it had used only conventional weapons and ammunition in
attacks aimed at Hizbollah guerrillas and nothing contravening international
law.

Blackened bodies have been showing up at hospitals in southern Lebanon two
weeks into the war between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas that has seen at
least 418 people, mostly civilians, killed in Lebanon and at least 42 Israelis.




Killed by Israeli air raids, the Lebanese dead are charred in a way local
doctors, who have lived through years of civil war and Israeli occupation, say
they have not seen before.

Bachir Cham, a Belgian-Lebanese doctor at the Southern Medical Centre in Sidon,
received eight bodies after an Israeli air raid on nearby Rmeili which he said
exhibited such wounds.

He has taken 24 samples from the bodies to test what killed them. He believes
it is a chemical.

Cham said the bodies of some victims were "black as shoes, so they are
definitely using chemical weapons. They are all black but their hair and skin
is intact so they are not really burnt. It is something else."

"If you burnt someone with petrol their hair would burn and their skin would
burn down to the bone. The Israelis are 100 per cent using chemical weapons."

Lebanese President Emile Lahoud has repeatedly accused Israel of using
phosphorus bombs in its offensive.

Human Rights Watch, which has accused the Israeli army of using cluster bombs
in populated areas of southern Lebanon, said it had not verified claims that
Israel had used phosphorus.

"We are investigating but we haven't confirmed anything yet. We have seen
phosphorus used before and we have seen it in the artillery stocks of the
Israeli army in the north," said Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director at Human
Rights Watch.

"Phosphorus shells do have a legitimate use in illuminating the battlefield at
night. The offensive use of phosphorus would be a violation of international
conventions."

Television footage shows some bodies, such as those of 20 civilians killed when
an Israeli missile hit the van in which they were fleeing the border village of
Marwaheen, blackened in the way Cham describes. No one knows what killed them.

"We are seeing abnormal burns, different from wars we've seen in the past. The
corpses of these victims are shrinking to half their normal size. You think it
is the corpse of a child at first but it turns out to be a grown man," said
Raed Salman Zeinedine, director of Tyre Government Hospital.

"We've never seen anything like it but what the causes are I don't want to
speculate. We have no scientific answer."

The Israel Army said it did not target civilians at all.

"We use only weapons and ammunition which will best hit our targets and cause
least collateral damage," said army spokesman Captain Jacob Dallal.

"It could be that a body is burned from fire or the force of an explosion, but
between that and suggesting we do something illegal under international law are
two different things."

news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=117462

Premedycyjny atak na ONZ

[melipol]

Israel attack 'deliberate'
Ed O'Loughlin
July 27, 2006

THE United Nations repeatedly asked Israel to stop bombarding its position at
Khiyam in southern Lebanon in the hours leading up to the deaths of four
international observers, according to a UN military source.

About 20 bombs or shells fell in or close to the base before an aerial bomb
penetrated the bunker and killed the observers, the source claimed.

As international anger grew over the killing of non-combatants, officials at
the UN Treaty Supervisory Organisation, to which the observers belonged,
declined to speculate on the cause, pending an investigation.

But the UN Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, said Israel appeared to have struck
the site deliberately. He said in a statement the post was clearly marked and
had been there for a long time.

Israel's UN ambassador, Dan Gillerman, expressed "deep regret" for the deaths
and denied Israel hit the post intentionally.

"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the hasty statement of the Secretary-
General, insinuating that Israel has deliberately targeted the UN post," he
said. The assertions were "premature and erroneous".

A United Nations source said the organisation had protested repeatedly to the
Israelis during shelling on Tuesday about the strikes that preceded the fatal
bombing that night.

The pattern of the fire made it clear that it came from the Israelis, the
source said, and only Israel possessed weapons heavy enough to penetrate the
fortified bunker in which the observers were sheltering.

But it was unclear how or why an Israeli aircraft came to bomb a clearly marked
UN position which should have been indicated as exempt from attack.

"This position has been there for 20 years," the UN source said. "In the old
days that was the front line. Israel knows these positions and they have had
two weeks to zero in on this area and register targets and where you

don't want to hit. That's standard behaviour.

"They [the bunkers] are big white things - you can see them for miles and they
are lit up at night. Even if the Israelis just arrived cold from the moon two
weeks ago, they have been firing there in that area regularly for two weeks.

"As a fire control issue it is a nonsense. If you keep firing all afternoon
into a position like that, then ultimately something will go wrong."

Mr Annan's statement read: "I am shocked and deeply distressed by the
apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defence Forces of a UN observer post
in southern Lebanon."

"I call on the Government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this
very disturbing incident and demand that any further attack on UN positions and
personnel must stop."

Israel's Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, strived to limit diplomatic damage from
the deaths. He told Mr Annan of his "deep sorrow", but voiced shock at the
suggestion the attack was deliberate. Mr Olmert ordered an investigation.

The base at Khiyam was one of four UN observation posts along the sensitive
border between Lebanon and Israel - two of which are closed because of earlier
incidents.

Elsewhere in Lebanon yesterday, 13 Israeli soldiers were reported killed in
fierce fighting with Hezbollah guerillas. Al Jazeera television said they died
in clashes in the southern town of Bint Jbeil, which Israel calls a Hezbollah
stronghold, four kilometres inside Lebanon.

Hezbollah sources said guerillas had foiled Israeli efforts to evacuate
casualties from Bint Jbeil. "Our men can hear the screams of their wounded
calling for help," one source said.

If confirmed, the toll would be the Israel's army worst loss in a single day
since it launched its offensive against Hezbollah two weeks ago.

In the Gaza Strip, Israeli forces killed 12 Palestinians, including seven
militants and a three-year-old girl.

forum.gazeta.pl/forum/73,46481,1540823.html?f=904&w=45850989&a=45850989&rep=1

The high price of growing up in the firing line

[melipol]

Jonathan Pearlman in Haifa
July 27, 2006

BENEATH the empty streets of the Israeli town of Kiryat Shmona, the residents
are three days away from surpassing a record they would rather not hold.

More than half of the 20,000 residents have fled. The remainder live in
underground shelters, often without fresh food, water or air.

When residents descended two weeks ago, they retraced a flight into safety they
have been making for 40 years.

Tomorrow the bombing will surpass the 16 days of Katyusha fire in 1996 -
believed to be the longest period of constant shelling of a town since World
War II.

Unlike cities further south, such as Haifa and Afula, which had never been hit
by Katyushas before the latest conflict, Kiryat Shmona has long been accustomed
to ducking a rain of missiles from southern Lebanon.

The people have learnt that once inside the shelters, there is no knowing when
they will come out.

As a native-born resident, Moti Cohen, 44, has been evading missiles since he
was six. Mr Cohen, who is in a shelter with his wife and four daughters, echoed
the town's motto: "Here, we have learnt never to trust silence. It only ever
turns out to be the calm before the storm."

Mr Cohen said a prolonged period in a shelter was like living in an underground
jail.

"We have no contact with the outside world," he said. "It is hot and there is
no air-conditioning. We are going crazy. It's impossible to live like this. The
bombs are still falling all around. Every time you hear them it is scary, even
if you were born here."

In the town, which has come to symbolise the country's vulnerability in the
north, the guiding landmark is a five-storey building which took a direct hit
almost a decade ago. During more peaceful times, the locals joke that when a
piece of chalk falls in an upstairs classroom, the children downstairs start
rushing for the shelters.

In the 1960s and 1970s, the Katyushas came mainly from Palestinian militias.
Since then, they have come from Hezbollah.

"We need to take out this problem at the root," Mr Cohen said. "If not, we'll
be back here in a year or six months."

On most days, the army announces a two-hour window that allows one person from
each shelter to go out and buy food and supplies. A team of psychologists and
social workers from the town's stress prevention centre visits the shelters to
give counselling, bring supplies and play with the children.

Mooli Lahad, who founded the centre and is an expert on the long-term impact of
shelling, said many children were likely to emerge from shelters with sleep
disturbances, bedwetting, stuttering and claustrophobia.

About a fifth of adults who grew up here during the periods of almost daily
shelling experience serious disorders, Professor Lahad said. They are on
constant alert. It is a lifetime price.
www.smh.com.au/news/world/the-high-price-of-growing-up-in-the-firing-line/2006/07/26/1153816254824.html

Bleak outlook in Lebanon

[melipol]

July 27, 2006
THE latest round of blood-letting between Israel and Hezbollah seems likely to
continue for many more days, with Lebanese and Israeli civilians paying the
mounting price in human lives and misery. Neither side is yet ready for a
ceasefire, except on terms the other will not accept. Nor are they under
pressure to stop the killing from their principal backers and military
suppliers, the United States in the case of Israel, and Iran and Syria in that
of Hezbollah. And even if the negotiations under way in Rome achieve an
agreement in principle on the composition and mandate of a credible
international peacekeeping force for the contested border area, the logistics
of getting it deployed will take time.

The deaths of four United Nations military observers in an Israeli air attack
on their post in southern Lebanon - whether deliberate or not - will alert
governments asked to contribute troops to such a force, perhaps including
Australia, to the perilous and thankless nature of the task. With old hatreds
newly fertilised by fresh blood, preventing new flare-ups across the border,
let alone disarming Hezbollah's experienced, well-armed and ideologically
driven guerillas, would be a daunting challenge.

Even assuming, optimistically, that the Lebanese army is capable of taking some
of the load, a much more substantial international force than the present
inadequate UN observer group - with a more robust mandate - would be required.
Physical dangers aside, the peacekeepers would be at constant risk of being
accused, by Hezbollah, of being surrogates for Israel and the Bush
Administration and, by Israel, of being ineffectual. Clearly, it will be vital
to ensure a reassuring mix of contributor nations. Contingents from NATO and
other Western countries will need to be balanced by some from Arab nations such
as Egypt and Jordan.

But that is for the future. Just now, the prospects of an early ceasefire look
bleak. Two weeks after Israel responded to Hezbollah's wickedly provocative
seizure of two Israeli soldiers by launching a military onslaught against it,
it still seems far from achieving its aims. Hezbollah has not been destroyed.
Nor, on the evidence of its continuing missile attacks on northern Israel and
its resistance to Israel's push across the border, has its military capability
been severely curtailed. By yesterday, its leader was hinting at longer-range
missile strikes south of Haifa. The damage inflicted on Lebanon's
infrastructure has brought great suffering to Lebanese society, undermined the
country's fledgling democratic government and wrecked its economy. But it has
probably strengthened Hezbollah's support among Lebanon's Shiites.

Militarily, of course, Israel will eventually win this round, as it has won all
the previous ones. It has the firepower to achieve its new objective, which is
to occupy a strip of land on the Lebanese side of the border - something
initially it did not wish to do - until an international force can replace it.
Yet even if things turn out so neatly, there will be a political price. Not
only the Palestinians (the Gaza tragedy grinds on) and Islamist extremists, but
also many moderate Arabs, will be reinforced in their loathing of Israel and
the US.

www.smh.com.au/news/editorial/bleak-outlook-in-lebanon/2006/07/26/1153816248291.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

[genocidezionism]

uczestników konferencji. wie co strony powiedza choć jeszcze konferencja sie
nie zaczeła.?!

[adrem63]

Złudzenia Izraela, które trwają już od jego powstania, że da się żyć w tym
rejonie stosując politykę przemocy i przewagi militarnej, mogą kosztować dużo
więcej niż sięga wyobraźnia autora artykułu.