PRZEPRASZAM POLAKOW W IMIENIU ZYDOW KTORZY SIE CZOJA WINNI

[Gość: GEREMEK]

MARTYROLOGI NA NARODZIE POLSKIM KTURY NAS PRZYGARNA PRZED WIEKAMI I OTOCZYL
GOSCINNOSCIA.MAMY WIELKI DLUG DO SPLACENIA. PRZEPRASZAMY

[Gość: axel]

Mózg Ci zlasowało czy Raduia MaRyja się nasłuchałeś? A może za dużo Naszego
Dziennika? No tak jeśli wejdziesz między wrony musisz krakać tak jak one, ale
co gdy wrony w nienawiści wyuczone?, rozkazują, wykrzykują, megafony zaplują
wszystkie co do jednego wyższość gatunkową czują...

[Gość: waldi]

Gość portalu: axel napisał(a):
> Mózg Ci zlasowało czy Raduia MaRyja się nasłuchałeś? ...
Axel. Jedni czerpią nienawiść z Radia M. inni z NIE. Ale w każdym przypadku jest
to nienawiść. Twoja też.

[Gość: waldi]

I jeszce jedno, jeśli GEREMEK nie prowokuje (mógłby się inaczej podpisać)- jak
Ci się wydaje - to może chce przekazać coś co chciałby usłyszeć. Nie jest to
nic za co należy opluwać. Może gdyby takie słowa jak GEREMKA pojawiały się
częściej zamknęło by się parę klawiatur. Kompleksy polskie są tak duże, że
zmuszanie nas do kolejnych ekspiacji powoduje agresję. JA się nie dziwię, choć
wolałbym inną atmosferę na tym forum

[Gość: 3kropek]

Gość portalu: GEREMEK napisał(a):

> MARTYROLOGI NA NARODZIE POLSKIM KTURY NAS PRZYGARNA PRZED WIEKAMI I OTOCZYL
> GOSCINNOSCIA.MAMY WIELKI DLUG DO SPLACENIA. PRZEPRASZAMY

Prawdziwy Geremek różni się od powyższego znajomością polskiej ortografii:
czują zamiast czóją
który zamiast ktury
Dosyć typowe dla "prawdziwego Polaka", którym się pewnie czujesz.

[Gość: PAWEL]

Gość portalu: 3kropek napisał(a):

> Gość portalu: GEREMEK napisał(a):
>
> > MARTYROLOGI NA NARODZIE POLSKIM KTURY NAS PRZYGARNA PRZED WIEKAMI I OTOCZY
> L
> > GOSCINNOSCIA.MAMY WIELKI DLUG DO SPLACENIA. PRZEPRASZAMY
>
> Prawdziwy Geremek różni się od powyższego znajomością polskiej ortografii:
> czują zamiast czóją
> który zamiast ktury
> Dosyć typowe dla "prawdziwego Polaka", którym się pewnie czujesz.

ZLA GRAMATYKA "ROSA" NIE USMIERCILA NIKOGO.WASZA ZLOSLIWOSC I POGARDA INNYMI TO
MILIONY MOGIL ZNANYCH I NIE ZNANYCH-MORDERCY

[Gość: BERG]

Powyzsze wypowiedzi zydow potwierdzaja teze, ze zydzi zadnego goja nigdy i za
nic przepraszac nie chca i nie beda.
Dlatego "dialog" polsko-zydowski to pusta fraza, raczej polski monolog.

[Gość: PAWEL]

Gość portalu: BERG napisał(a):

> Powyzsze wypowiedzi zydow potwierdzaja teze, ze zydzi zadnego goja nigdy i za
> nic przepraszac nie chca i nie beda.
> Dlatego "dialog" polsko-zydowski to pusta fraza, raczej polski monolog.

"BERG" NIE MOZNA SOBIE POZWOLIC NA REZYGNACJE Z WALKI O ONTYPOLONIZM ZYDOW. BO TO
BY SIE WIAZALO Z NIEMALZE SAMOZAGLADA. ZYDZI NAM JESZCZE NIE ODCINAJA JEZYKOW ALE
JAK BEDZIEMY MILCZEC TO IM SAMI ODDAJEMY WSZYSTKO BEZ JEDNEGO STRZALU.

[Gość: .]

Ty lobuzie?
Odpowiesz wreszcie na moje pytania,czy nie?

spróbujcie pomyśleć (kto wie ...)

[Gość: 3kropek]

Kochani,
nawet na Waszym poziomie umysłowym można odróżnić kogoś dbającego o czystość
ojczystej mowy od mordercy.
Nie piszcie też, że Żydzi nigdy nie przeproszą, bo przecież GEREMEK już to
zrobił w imieniu wszystkich Żydów i jak na razie nie słyszałem ani jednego
głosu protestu.
Uczcie się więc, najmilsi, bo na naukę nigdy nie jest za późno, nawet jak się
ma iloraz inteligencji 160.

[Gość: XYZ]

http://www.polamcon.org/jedwabneix.htm


The following article was written in reply to the
vicious, anti-Polish article by George Will
in Newsweek, July 10, 2001
JEDWABNE AND THE WILL TO
REMAIN IGNORANT, GEORGE!
by Stanley Naj

History has never been George Will's forte-baseball--maybe? He had to cheat
when coaching a presidential candidate, Ronald Reagan, by resorting to the use
of a stolen classified Carter White House document. In his July 9, 2001
Newsweek column, he outdid himself when he commented upon a book written by a
discredited scholar, Jan Gross, a former communist, now residing in the West,
to insult an entire nation and émigrés of Polish origin.

Mr. Gross, in a desperate struggle for recognition, revived a fictionalized
report made in 1948 by a Soviet-controlled Polish Security Office (U.B.--Urzad
Bezbieczenstwa) agent named Wasserstein, who, in order to arrest former members
of the Polish underground, created a false report in which he charged that the
former underground fighters helped the Nazis kill "Russian" Jews in the town of
Jedwabne, Poland. Consequently, innocent Poles with no chance for defense were
killed or incarcerated for many years. In those days an accusation made by a
KGB agent was the proverbial "kiss of death."

Mr. Gross took the story one step beyond. He accused the entire town of
Jedwabne of participation in the crime.

Mr. Will in his column willingly concealed this and other historic facts behind
the incident to accentuate his support for Mr. Gross' unfortunate meanderings.
Therefore, some history needs to be resurrected in order to illustrate what
George Will was unwilling to discuss or reveal.

During the period of endangerment from the Nazis, 1933-1945, most European
peoples and nations succumbed to fear and collaborated with Hitler or Stalin or
both.

Jews collaborated with Stalin and Hitler--Poles did not.

Jewish collaboration with Hitler, destructive as it became, began in April of
1933 with a famous Memorandum supporting Hitler's anti-Semitism and was
followed up by the August 27, 1933 Transfer Agreement signed by German Zionists-
Revisionists and the Nazis. The agreement permitted affluent Jews to remove
their wealth from the Nazi governed territories. These two acts guided Nazi-
Jewish relations throughout the Nazi period in Germany, Poland and elsewhere,
permitting wealthy Jews to escape the dangers of the occupation but exposing
the vast majority of poor Jews to Nazi/Zionist-Revisionist manipulations,
suffering and death.

The principals even opened emigration offices, staffed by Nazis and their
Zionist-Revisionist proxies, in Vienna and Prague immediately after invasions
of the respective countries.

On the eve of the signing of the infamous Ribbenthrop-Molotov Agreement on
August 22, 1939, Hitler, meeting with his generals, issued an order
to "liquidate Poland and Poles and make lebensraum for the Reichsdeutsche."

This order was issued for Poland and Poles not Jews, French, Danes or anybody
else. It was the only order of its kind given by Hitler and it commanded all of
the Nazi forces to liquidate the Polish nation and nobody else.

For Jews, even as late as the 1942 Wannsee meeting, the Nazis outlined
expulsions as the "final solution", not liquidation.

On September 1, 1939, Hitler gave an additional order under Operation
Tannenbaum--to kill Polish intellectuals immediately upon capture and forbade
the inclusion of any Pole in any official organization--military or civilian.

Hitler rescinded this order only in August of 1944.

It is this order that makes Mr. Gross' lie and Mr. Will's naiveté so obvious
and the proof of its significance is reflected in the recruitments for the Nazi
SS in various countries. These numbers were provided by the German SS Pension
office in 1993. This Office continues to pay out funds even today:

Holland 5,000 recruits for the SS. France 5,000 recruits " Belgium 4,000
recruits " Denmark 2,000 recruits " Norway 2,000 recruits " England 100
recruits " Poland None

Jedwabne and the Soviet Occupation.

On September 17, 1939, the Soviet Union came to aid the Nazis, whose campaign
against the Poles was running out of steam. The Soviets captured 46.5% of the
Polish territories and stopped the Polish military from regrouping and
continuing their struggle, especially in the North where Polish troops had
successfully arrested Nazi advances.

On September 28, the Nazis and Soviet Russia partitioned Poland. Each began to
organize the territory to its political advantage.

Hitler divided his acquisition into three parts. One section, the northern
sector, was absorbed into the Reich and cleared of any Poles immediately. The
second part was converted into three protectorates for the Polish population
and its two major ethnic groups representing at least 10% of the total
population:

1) General Government, with its capital, Krakow, is designated for Poles,

2) Judenland, with its capital, Zamosc, for European and Polish Jews, and

3) Ukrainian Reserve for Polish Ukrainians.

Lastly, the Zakopane territory was given to Slovakia for its assistance in the
attack on Poland.

The third ethnic group in Poland, which also composed 10% of the total
population, was the Polish Germans. This group, like the Jews, began to
collaborate with Hitler almost immediately, and by 1935 Hitler decorated its
representatives with Iron Crosses, a military award for valor. Hitler referred
to them as Volksdeutsche.

Jews collaborated with the Nazi invader through the Nazi approved Councils,
Jewish Police and spy networks, such as the infamous Department 13 run by
Nossig.

In the years 1939-1943, the Nazis set up 108 camps for the Polish--not Jewish--
population.

During the initial years, Auschwitz was for Poles, not Jews.

Polish men, women, priests, nuns, children under 12 and children 12 to 16 were
placed in specific camps to serve the "needs" of their new master--chief among
them the murder of the leaders and deportation of Polish children who were
endowed with Aryan features to the Reich.

The Jews organized themselves in ghettos led by Nazi-approved leaders such as
Czernikow and others. The Ukrainians formed SS-Units such as the Galizien-SS or
guard units like the "Trawnikimanner" to assist the Nazis in various
operations. The Volksdeutsche, the Polish Germans, received their German
citizenship upon signing a document and joined all levels of the Nazi killing
machine. Some of the smaller ethic groups in occupied Poland such as
Lithuanians and Latvians joined their national counterparts in servicing Nazi
needs.

Despite all the pressure, Poles did not collaborate!

They organized themselves under the leadership of the Polish Government-in-
Exile in London and fought their invaders--Nazis and Soviets, only to be
betrayed by the British, French, Americans and in their own country
their "neighbors" Jews, Ukrainians, Polish Germans and a host of smaller ethnic
communities.

In the Soviet partition, immediately after September 17, 1939, one ethnic group
began to collaborate with the Soviet invader--the Polish Jews. Of the 3.1
million Polish Jews, 1,222,000 lived in the territories taken over by Soviet
Russia. Between September 17 and October 22, 1939, they helped the Soviets
identify Polish civilian and military leaders and intellectuals and assisted
with deportations of about 1.5 million Poles into the Soviet Union's Siberia as
well as helped in the murder of at least 100,000 Poles on the spot.

Mr. Will does not dare to mention Jewish collaboration of the Jedwabne Jews or
any other eastern community with Stalinist forces, but nevertheless this factor
is the main cause of the Nazi action in that town.

Jewish collaborators, along with identifying their neighbors, Poles, f

[Gość: XYZ]

Jewish collaborators, along with identifying their neighbors, Poles, for
deportation or murder helped the Soviets organize and conduct a plebiscite. On
October 22, 1939 the Soviets rammed through a plebiscite which overwhelmingly
favored the annexation of Soviet-occupied Polish territories into the Soviet
Union. A week later, the Soviets annexed 46.5% of Poland into the Soviet
republics of Belarus and Ukraine. British journalists, who were present in the
territories of Soviet occupation, in their reports to their respective journals
confirmed the betrayal of Poles by their "neighbors"--the Polish Jews.

All inhabitants of the annexed territories instantaneously became citizens of
the Soviet Union, the Polish currency, the Zloty, was declared worthless and
all of the administrative jobs in the new Soviet territories were given to the
collaborators. The persecution of ethnic Poles under the new administration
intensified. After killing all of the Polish administrators and military men,
the blood-thirsty collaborators started murdering old men, veterans of World
War I and the Polish-Soviet War of 1921-22 in which Poland was victorious.

Families of those killed were deported to Siberia.

However, Hitler was running out of resources after his escapades in Western
Europe, and the Soviet Union seemed to be the only easy target left for him.
Rich in badly needed natural resources, it had to be taken immediately and he
attacked it on June 22, 1941.

Plans were drawn up and on June 6, the organization of four Einsatztruppen
(Security Troops) A, B, C, and D was approved. These units followed the
military forces purging the German occupied territories of Soviet Commissars
and other "apparatchiks."

Jedwabne was one of the towns which was occupied by the Soviet Union in
September 1939. In October, after the plebiscite, the Jewish collaborators
purged the Polish administration, killing or deporting all of its leaders and
were given their jobs as a reward.

As an expression of devotion to their Soviet masters, the Jewish collaborators
erected a statue of Lenin in the town.

After the Nazi military machine rolled through the territories, the
Einsatztruppen arrived. They gathered local communists and their sympathizers
and began to destroy them in the manner they saw fit. They also demolished the
Lenin monument.

Their crime, committed against the Jewish Soviet collaborators in 1941 was not
any different than those which took place from September through December of
1939 and were previously committed exclusively against Poles. In many towns,
Bydgoszcz and Leszno being chief among them, the German troops killed over
5,000 Poles.

In the same period, another 384 Polish towns and villages were completely
destroyed--inhabitants and property.

Lastly, the documentation examined by scholars in Ludwigsburg, Germany, Warsaw,
Poland and Stanford University in California show that the Einsatztruppen
action taken against the Jewish collaborators was a Nazi responsibility. The
Nuremberg Trial records, which contain the testimony of 22 Einsatztruppen
commanders, clearly show a German pattern of murderous behavior.

Further, Hitler's order of September 1, 1939 is key in refuting the unfortunate
claim by Mr. Gross and Mr. Will. No Nazi would disobey the Fuehrer.

On the other hand, a crime was committed by Mr. Will in his column. However, no
punishment will erase what he did. He casually dismissed the suffering and
martyrdom of 26 million Poles at the hands of Hitler and Stalin to
sensationalize the tragedy that befell less than 100 collaborators.

It seem now, more than before, that Mr. Will's forte is baseball.

[Gość: XYZ]

http://www.polamcon.org/jedwabneix.htm

http://www.polamcon.org/jedwabne1.htm

http://www.polamcon.org/jedwabne2.htm


REPORT OF REV. FR. EDWARD ORLOWSKI
Pastor of the Parish of Jedwabne,
Dean of the Jedwabne Deanery
Jedwabne, June 10, 2001

After completing the seminary, for 14 years I was an associate pastor in
various parishes, including 3 years in Lipsk on the Biebrza River, where I
served together with Fr. Jozef Keblinski, who throughout the entire period of
Soviet and German occupation fulfilled pastoral duties in Jedwabne.

Every day at dinner, at supper, Fr. Jozef Keblinski would tell me about what
happened in Jedwabne; among other things, he spoke about the burning of the
Jews. From his reports, which he repeated many times, I know the exact sequence
of those events.

From July 1 1998 I became the Dean and Pastor of the Parish in Jedwabne. (…)

Why do I feel entitled to speak out in the matter of the murder of Jews in
Jedwabne? Because I had very detailed information about the events of this
murder of the Jews from Fr. Jozef Keblinski, who told me about it many times.
Thanks to that, I consider myself an indirect witness.

The roots of the matter go back to 1939, when the Germans came to Jedwabne, but
on the basis of the Ribbentrop – Molotov Pact they yielded the place to the
Soviets. When the Soviets arrived, the Jews greeted them with flowers, they
took over positions in the city government, they formed from the Jewish youth a
Soviet militia and they began cooperating with the NKVD. The cooperation
consisted giving the NKVD detailed information, and because in October of 1939
a resistance movement had been formed, there was a facility for training in
guerilla warfare for three counties: Lomza, Bialystok and Augustow. At this
facility there gathered a group of people from military schools in Warsaw and
its environs. They lived and conducted activities in Jedwabne, but the Jews
were spying on them, so they relocated to the neighboring village of Kubrzany,
but there also they were spied upon. Then they relocated across the Biebrza
River, to a swampy region, to the forest of Kobielno, where there was a
forester’s station that they made their base. But there too they were spied
out, due in large part to the participation of Jews from Jedwabne.

On Pentecost in 1941, the NKVD came with units of the Red Army, and a battle
was fought there in which some partisans were killed, but many more soldiers of
the NKVD.

After this event, there began the most cruel deportations. The Jews prepared
lists of patriots, of the most valuable people, the educated, who were to be
deported as quickly as possible. The Jews participated actively in the arrests,
they would lead the NKVD people to the dwellings of the deportees, and together
with the NKVD, they drove them off in horse-drawn wagons to the rail station in
Lomza. The wagons were escorted by Jews armed with rifles. The mothers and
wives of those arrested pleaded with the Jews, their neighbors, to allow their
husbands and sons to escape on the way to the station. The Jews allowed no one
to escape – there is no known instance of assistance in anyone’s escape.

The most tragic was the last convoy, just before the entrance of Germans into
Lomza, just before the outbreak of the German-Soviet war. There was not enough
time to load all of the people on the huge train of cattle cars. The remaining
ones were put into a prison, awaiting the next transport.

On June 22 1941, the Germans entered Lomza. The prisoners forced the doors, got
out of the prison and returned to Jedwabne, where they met the Jews who had
escorted their convoy.

The homes of the Poles had been taken over, families had been deported into the
depths of Russia, the returning Poles had no place to go.

On July 10 1941, the Germans organized the liquidation of the Jews in Jedwabne.
For a few days preceding this liquidation they gathered the Jews to work in the
town square, for the purpose of pulling up the grass from the square; after
that work they would let them return home. The second day they repeated this
experiment, and it was only on the third day they decided to murder them. So it
was that in the third day the Jews were burned.

Fr. Keblinski lived in the rectory which the Germans had handed back from
the "Selsoviet." The Germans had their headquarters in the Old Pharmacy. The
Germans returned the rectory to Fr. Keblinski. For a short time, the German
chaplain lived there together with the priest. Because Fr. Keblinski knew
German, by necessity he acted as interpreted between the Poles and the Germans,
the Jews and the Germans. Fr. Keblinski found out from the Germans that the
Jews were to be destroyed, because one of the gendarmes passed along the
information that a unit of 240 German commandos had arrived in Bialystok, for
the purpose of ending the Jewish problem. Fr. Keblinski tried to argue that
perhaps these Jews could be saved. The Jews even wanted to collect valuables
for the purpose of bribing the Germans. But the Germans declared that was
impossible, they said that wherever a German soldier sets foot, no Jew has a
right to live. Fr. Keblinski warned some of the prominent Jews. He could tell
only those whom he considered capable of being discreet, otherwise he himself
would have been shot.

On the day when not only the men, but also women and children were gathered in
the town square, Fr. Keblinski went to the headquarters of the high officer who
was directing the entire action and tried to reason with him: if you consider
the men guilty because of their sympathy for Communism, surely the women and
children are not guilty. And he heard in response: "Do you know who’s in charge
here? Don’t meddle, if you don’t want to lose your head and want to stay
alive." He opened the door and yelled in a loud voice: "Raus!" Fr. Keblinski
left the post, he felt totally powerless.

On posts there were signs warning that anyone who hides a Jew, or allows one to
escape, is subject to being shot, along with three generations of his family.
He saw how the Poles were forced, herded out into the town square, for the
purpose of guarding and leading the Jews to the barn. But nobody, not the Jews,
not the Poles, suspected what would be the final outcome. The Jews went with
their everyday articles, calmly, without suspecting what awaited them. Fr.
Keblinski estimated that there could have been 150 to 200 Jews.

About the moment itself we know only that there was an explosion, then cries; I
know that the Jews attempted to escape from the barn, but the barn was tightly
surrounded by armed Germans. Only the Germans were armed; certainly, they did
not agree to give arms even to Karolak, a German agent whom the Germans named
as mayor.

The action of the final killing of the Jews was solely and exclusively the
action of the Germans; Poles were forced to stand guard under threat of loss of
life. From the testimony of a Jew in a legal case before a regional court in
Lomza, it is unequivocally apparent that the Jews were burned in the barn by
Germans. At least three Poles were pushed into the barn and burned there, they
were pushed by the Germans and burned there along with the Jews.

The Jews carried with them their everyday articles, they had spoons, forks, the
butcher had a knife. The Jews did not know that they were going to their
deaths. That knife was intended for ritual ceremonies.

Rev. Edward Orlowski

Translation: Thaddeus Mirecki

[Gość: bee]

kto wie ile liczyla armia generala andersa-stworzona w zwiazku sowieckim
(setki tysiecy zolnierzy -to byli zeslancy i jency 1939)
kto wie ile liczyla 1 i 2 armia WP (setki tysiecy) ilez tych polakow
przebywalo na wakacjach w zwiazku sowieckim
a ile ich jeszcze tam jest