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Subject: [Human Rights] 800 Professors give warning and more


>
> - 800 AMERICAN PROFESSORS SIGN DOCUMENT WARNING OF
> COMING ISRAELI ETHNIC CLEANSING
>
>> We, American academics and intellectuals, applaud our
> courageous Israeli colleagues for their recent letter
> warning of the possibility of ethnic cleansing in
> Israel and the Occupied Territories. The 187 Israeli
> signatories express concern that the "fog of war"
> [against Iraq] "could be exploited by the Israeli
> government to commit further crimes against the
> Palestinian people, up to full- fledged ethnic
> cleansing."
>
> The Israeli professors point out that: "The Israeli
> ruling coalition includes parties that promote
> 'transfer' of the Palestinian population as a solution
> to what they call 'the demographic problem'.
> Politicians are regularly quoted in the media as
> suggesting forcible expulsion, most recently MKs
> [members of the Israeli parliament] Michael Kleiner
> and Benny Elon, as reported on Yediot Ahronot website
> on September 19, 2002. In a recent interview in
> Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon
> described the Palestinians as a 'cancerous
> manifestation' and equated the military actions in the
> Occupied Territories with 'chemotherapy', suggesting
> that more radical 'treatment' may be necessary. Prime
> Minister Sharon has backed this 'assessment of
> reality'. Escalating racist demagoguery concerning the
> Palestinian citizens of Israel may indicate the scope
> of the crimes that are possibly being contemplated."
>
> Benjamin Netanyahu, the newly appointed Israeli
> foreign minister, previously advocated expelling
> Palestinians while the world was distracted with
> events at Tiananmen Square.
>
> We join with our Israeli colleagues in calling for
> vigilance as events unfold in Israel and the Occupied
> Territories. With an average of more than $10 million
> dollars per day of American tax dollars going to
> Israel, we believe Americans cannot remain silent
> while crimes as abhorrent as ethnic cleansing are
> being openly advocated.
>
> We urge our government to communicate clearly to the
> government of Israel that the expulsion of people
> according to race, religion or nationality would
> constitute crimes against humanity and will not be
> tolerated.
>
> More information about the U.S. letter, including
> instructions on how to sign it, can be found at:
> www.professorsofconscience.org
>
> >
> >
> >
> The Palestine Monitor: A PNGO Information
> Clearinghouse
>
>
> VICTIMS OF CLOSURE
>
> Israeli soldiers prevent medical treatment ­ two
> newborn babies die as a result
> 17th December 2002
>
> Adla Abdel Jaber As-Sayyefi, 37 years old, went into
> labour at around
> 3am on the morning of December 10th. Her husband
> rushed to his parent?s house
> concerned because Adla was due to go hospital to have
> an operation as it
> was going to be a breech birth, but she went into
> labour too early.
>
> They spoke to the Red Crescent requesting an
> ambulance, but the ambulance
> was unable to reach their village of Tel because of
> the trenches and checkpoint
> s
> and suggested instead the ambulance and the family and
> Adla, meet at another
> checkpoint of Beit Eba, the reasoning behind this
> choice was that it would
> be less distance for the pregnant woman to walk ­ a
> matter of meters, and
> not kilometers.
>
> Adla?s husband borrowed a car from the neighbors, and
> Adla, her father
> in law Muhammad, mother in law, and her mother, went
> to meet the ambulance
> that they were assured was waiting for them. However,
> when they came within
> sight of the checkpoint a tank was blocking the path,
> and so in the dark
> and rain they tried to attract the attention of the
> soldiers in the tank.
> The lights of the ambulance were clear on the other
> side of the checkpoint
> and the Muhammad beeped the horn, and the ambulance
> turned on its siren,
> but still the soldiers in the tank made no moves.
> Finally, Muhammad got out
> of the car and shouted to the soldiers that Adla
> needed to get to the hospital
> and to let them pass - but still the soldiers refused
> t
> o respond.
>
> Too terrified to try to pass, 74-year-old Muhammad
> turned the car around
> and began to return to the village, but after only ten
> meters or so Adla
> gave birth; however the baby died. Muhammad who should
> have been celebrating
> the birth of his grandchild, who was to bear his name,
> instead drove his
> daughter in law and the baby?s corpse back to the
> village.
>
> Dr. Hisham An-Na?ana, the director of the delivery
> department in Rafidya
> hospital in Nablus, which Adla was attempting to
> reach, said the fact that
> the mother and child had not reached the hospital was
> definitely the cause
> of death of the boy; ?Breech births are not an unusual
> occurrence ­ and normally
> a premature baby would not have died like this. This
> child died because he
> and his mother were denied medical treatment, which
> was only five kilometers
> away.?
>
> Munira Ahmed Kabaha, 30, from Tour Al-Gharbia near
> Jenin also went
> into labour early on the 6th of Decembe
> r. Her husband, Muwwafaq, telephoned
> Al-Razi hospital in Jenin, but was told that the
> ambulance could not reach
> their village because of checkpoints. However they
> arranged to meet at As-Shuhada
> junction, where his wife could be transferred to the
> ambulance.
>
> They drove to the meeting point and saw an ambulance
> that had been
> stopped by Israeli troops. Regardless of the danger
> Muwwafaq continued driving.
> As he said later ?I didn?t think about the danger as
> all I wanted was to
> get my wife and baby to the hospital." The ambulance
> realized that these
> were the people who required medical treatment and
> tried to negotiate with
> the Israeli soldiers, to convince the soldiers to
> permit them to move the
> woman who by this time was in pain and giving birth.
>
> After this delay, the soldiers examined the woman and
> let her go onto
> the hospital, however they were delayed too long and
> the baby died once it
> reached the hospital. The troops detained Muwwafaq and
> Munira&
> #8217;s sister for
> some time before permitting them to return to their
> village.
>
> Israeli troops regularly prevent Palestinians from
> receiving medical
> treatment, and in the past two years 73 other
> Palestinians have been killed
> because of this prevention. Many woman have been
> forced to give birth at
> home with no medical assistance, others have given
> birth at checkpoints and
> were fortunate to survive, as were there babies. These
> two newborns were
> the 16th and 17th babies to have died after Israeli
> troops, or checkpoints
> or barriers or trenches, prevented their mothers to
> get the treatment they
> were so obviously in need of.
>
>
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
>

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) Subject: [Human Rights] 800 Professors give warning and more
)
)
) )
) ) - 800 AMERICAN PROFESSORS SIGN DOCUMENT WARNING OF
) ) COMING ISRAELI ETHNIC CLEANSING
) )
) )) We, American academics and intellectuals, applaud our
) ) courageous Israeli colleagues for their recent letter
) ) warning of the possibility of ethnic cleansing in
) ) Israel and the Occupied Territories. The 187 Israeli
) ) signatories express concern that the "fog of war"
) ) [against Iraq] "could be exploited by the Israeli
) ) government to commit further crimes against the
) ) Palestinian people, up to full- fledged ethnic
) ) cleansing."
) )
) ) The Israeli professors point out that: "The Israeli
) ) ruling coalition includes parties that promote
) ) 'transfer' of the Palestinian population as a solution
) ) to what they call 'the demographic problem'.
) ) Politicians are regularly quoted in the media as
) ) suggesting forcible expulsion, most recently MKs
) ) [members of the Israeli parliament] Michael Kleiner
) ) and Benny Elon, as reported on Yediot Ahronot website
) ) on September 19, 2002. In a recent interview in
) ) Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon
) ) described the Palestinians as a 'cancerous
) ) manifestation' and equated the military actions in the
) ) Occupied Territories with 'chemotherapy', suggesting
) ) that more radical 'treatment' may be necessary. Prime
) ) Minister Sharon has backed this 'assessment of
) ) reality'. Escalating racist demagoguery concerning the
) ) Palestinian citizens of Israel may indicate the scope
) ) of the crimes that are possibly being contemplated."
) )
) ) Benjamin Netanyahu, the newly appointed Israeli
) ) foreign minister, previously advocated expelling
) ) Palestinians while the world was distracted with
) ) events at Tiananmen Square.
) )
) ) We join with our Israeli colleagues in calling for
) ) vigilance as events unfold in Israel and the Occupied
) ) Territories. With an average of more than $10 million
) ) dollars per day of American tax dollars going to
) ) Israel, we believe Americans cannot remain silent
) ) while crimes as abhorrent as ethnic cleansing are
) ) being openly advocated.
) )
) ) We urge our government to communicate clearly to the
) ) government of Israel that the expulsion of people
) ) according to race, religion or nationality would
) ) constitute crimes against humanity and will not be
) ) tolerated.
) )
) ) More information about the U.S. letter, including
) ) instructions on how to sign it, can be found at:
) ) (a href="http://www.professorsofconscience.org"target="_blank")www.profess
) orsofconscience.org(/a)
) )
) ) )
) ) )
) ) )
) ) The Palestine Monitor: A PNGO Information
) ) Clearinghouse
) )
) )
) ) VICTIMS OF CLOSURE
) )
) ) Israeli soldiers prevent medical treatment ­ two
) ) newborn babies die as a result
) ) 17th December 2002
) )
) ) Adla Abdel Jaber As-Sayyefi, 37 years old, went into
) ) labour at around
) ) 3am on the morning of December 10th. Her husband
) ) rushed to his parent?s house
) ) concerned because Adla was due to go hospital to have
) ) an operation as it
) ) was going to be a breech birth, but she went into
) ) labour too early.
) )
) ) They spoke to the Red Crescent requesting an
) ) ambulance, but the ambulance
) ) was unable to reach their village of Tel because of
) ) the trenches and checkpoint
) ) s
) ) and suggested instead the ambulance and the family and
) ) Adla, meet at another
) ) checkpoint of Beit Eba, the reasoning behind this
) ) choice was that it would
) ) be less distance for the pregnant woman to walk ­ a
) ) matter of meters, and
) ) not kilometers.
) )
) ) Adla?s husband borrowed a car from the neighbors, and
) ) Adla, her father
) ) in law Muhammad, mother in law, and her mother, went
) ) to meet the ambulance
) ) that they were assured was waiting for them. However,
) ) when they came within
) ) sight of the checkpoint a tank was blocking the path,
) ) and so in the dark
) ) and rain they tried to attract the attention of the
) ) soldiers in the tank.
) ) The lights of the ambulance were clear on the other
) ) side of the checkpoint
) ) and the Muhammad beeped the horn, and the ambulance
) ) turned on its siren,
) ) but still the soldiers in the tank made no moves.
) ) Finally, Muhammad got out
) ) of the car and shouted to the soldiers that Adla
) ) needed to get to the hospital
) ) and to let them pass - but still the soldiers refused
) ) t
) ) o respond.
) )
) ) Too terrified to try to pass, 74-year-old Muhammad
) ) turned the car around
) ) and began to return to the village, but after only ten
) ) meters or so Adla
) ) gave birth; however the baby died. Muhammad who should
) ) have been celebrating
) ) the birth of his grandchild, who was to bear his name,
) ) instead drove his
) ) daughter in law and the baby?s corpse back to the
) ) village.
) )
) ) Dr. Hisham An-Na?ana, the director of the delivery
) ) department in Rafidya
) ) hospital in Nablus, which Adla was attempting to
) ) reach, said the fact that
) ) the mother and child had not reached the hospital was
) ) definitely the cause
) ) of death of the boy; ?Breech births are not an unusual
) ) occurrence ­ and normally
) ) a premature baby would not have died like this. This
) ) child died because he
) ) and his mother were denied medical treatment, which
) ) was only five kilometers
) ) away.?
) )
) ) Munira Ahmed Kabaha, 30, from Tour Al-Gharbia near
) ) Jenin also went
) ) into labour early on the 6th of Decembe
) ) r. Her husband, Muwwafaq, telephoned
) ) Al-Razi hospital in Jenin, but was told that the
) ) ambulance could not reach
) ) their village because of checkpoints. However they
) ) arranged to meet at As-Shuhada
) ) junction, where his wife could be transferred to the
) ) ambulance.
) )
) ) They drove to the meeting point and saw an ambulance
) ) that had been
) ) stopped by Israeli troops. Regardless of the danger
) ) Muwwafaq continued driving.
) ) As he said later ?I didn?t think about the danger as
) ) all I wanted was to
) ) get my wife and baby to the hospital." The ambulance
) ) realized that these
) ) were the people who required medical treatment and
) ) tried to negotiate with
) ) the Israeli soldiers, to convince the soldiers to
) ) permit them to move the
) ) woman who by this time was in pain and giving birth.
) )
) ) After this delay, the soldiers examined the woman and
) ) let her go onto
) ) the hospital, however they were delayed too long and
) ) the baby died once it
) ) reached the hospital. The troops detained Muwwafaq and
) ) Munira&
) ) #8217;s sister for
) ) some time before permitting them to return to their
) ) village.
) )
) ) Israeli troops regularly prevent Palestinians from
) ) receiving medical
) ) treatment, and in the past two years 73 other
) ) Palestinians have been killed
) ) because of this prevention. Many woman have been
) ) forced to give birth at
) ) home with no medical assistance, others have given
) ) birth at checkpoints and
) ) were fortunate to survive, as were there babies. These
) ) two newborns were
) ) the 16th and 17th babies to have died after Israeli
) ) troops, or checkpoints
) ) or barriers or trenches, prevented their mothers to
) ) get the treatment they
) ) were so obviously in need of.
) )
) )
) ) )
) )
) )
) ) __________________________________________________
) )

Omar, to chyba dobrze, ze Zydzi moga dyskutowac jawnie na tematy dotyczace ich
kraju i nawet krytykowac. To swiadczy o wyzszosci naszej kultury nad wasza.
Wyobraz sobie, ze ty gdzies w gazecie jawnie krytykujesz OWP, Arafata i cala
polityke palestynska. Ci profesorowie ( nie wierze w ta ilosc, ale zalozmy )
moga bez problemu przyjechac do Izraela i nawet wyglaszac swoje poglady na
forum i

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) Gość portalu: Omar napisał(a):
)
) ) Subject: [Human Rights] 800 Professors give warning and more
) )
) )
) ) )
) ) ) - 800 AMERICAN PROFESSORS SIGN DOCUMENT WARNING OF
) ) ) COMING ISRAELI ETHNIC CLEANSING
) ) )
) ) )) We, American academics and intellectuals, applaud our
) ) ) courageous Israeli colleagues for their recent letter
) ) ) warning of the possibility of ethnic cleansing in
) ) ) Israel and the Occupied Territories. The 187 Israeli
) ) ) signatories express concern that the "fog of war"
) ) ) [against Iraq] "could be exploited by the Israeli
) ) ) government to commit further crimes against the
) ) ) Palestinian people, up to full- fledged ethnic
) ) ) cleansing."
) ) )
) ) ) The Israeli professors point out that: "The Israeli
) ) ) ruling coalition includes parties that promote
) ) ) 'transfer' of the Palestinian population as a solution
) ) ) to what they call 'the demographic problem'.
) ) ) Politicians are regularly quoted in the media as
) ) ) suggesting forcible expulsion, most recently MKs
) ) ) [members of the Israeli parliament] Michael Kleiner
) ) ) and Benny Elon, as reported on Yediot Ahronot website
) ) ) on September 19, 2002. In a recent interview in
) ) ) Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon
) ) ) described the Palestinians as a 'cancerous
) ) ) manifestation' and equated the military actions in the
) ) ) Occupied Territories with 'chemotherapy', suggesting
) ) ) that more radical 'treatment' may be necessary. Prime
) ) ) Minister Sharon has backed this 'assessment of
) ) ) reality'. Escalating racist demagoguery concerning the
) ) ) Palestinian citizens of Israel may indicate the scope
) ) ) of the crimes that are possibly being contemplated."
) ) )
) ) ) Benjamin Netanyahu, the newly appointed Israeli
) ) ) foreign minister, previously advocated expelling
) ) ) Palestinians while the world was distracted with
) ) ) events at Tiananmen Square.
) ) )
) ) ) We join with our Israeli colleagues in calling for
) ) ) vigilance as events unfold in Israel and the Occupied
) ) ) Territories. With an average of more than $10 million
) ) ) dollars per day of American tax dollars going to
) ) ) Israel, we believe Americans cannot remain silent
) ) ) while crimes as abhorrent as ethnic cleansing are
) ) ) being openly advocated.
) ) )
) ) ) We urge our government to communicate clearly to the
) ) ) government of Israel that the expulsion of people
) ) ) according to race, religion or nationality would
) ) ) constitute crimes against humanity and will not be
) ) ) tolerated.
) ) )
) ) ) More information about the U.S. letter, including
) ) ) instructions on how to sign it, can be found at:
) ) ) (a href="http://www.professorsofconscience.org"target="_blank")
www.profess
) ) orsofconscience.org(/a)
) ) )
) ) ) )
) ) ) )
) ) ) )
) ) ) The Palestine Monitor: A PNGO Information
) ) ) Clearinghouse
) ) )
) ) )
) ) ) VICTIMS OF CLOSURE
) ) )
) ) ) Israeli soldiers prevent medical treatment ­ two
) ) ) newborn babies die as a result
) ) ) 17th December 2002
) ) )
) ) ) Adla Abdel Jaber As-Sayyefi, 37 years old, went into
) ) ) labour at around
) ) ) 3am on the morning of December 10th. Her husband
) ) ) rushed to his parent?s house
) ) ) concerned because Adla was due to go hospital to have
) ) ) an operation as it
) ) ) was going to be a breech birth, but she went into
) ) ) labour too early.
) ) )
) ) ) They spoke to the Red Crescent requesting an
) ) ) ambulance, but the ambulance
) ) ) was unable to reach their village of Tel because of
) ) ) the trenches and checkpoint
) ) ) s
) ) ) and suggested instead the ambulance and the family and
) ) ) Adla, meet at another
) ) ) checkpoint of Beit Eba, the reasoning behind this
) ) ) choice was that it would
) ) ) be less distance for the pregnant woman to walk ­ a
) ) ) matter of meters, and
) ) ) not kilometers.
) ) )
) ) ) Adla?s husband borrowed a car from the neighbors, and
) ) ) Adla, her father
) ) ) in law Muhammad, mother in law, and her mother, went
) ) ) to meet the ambulance
) ) ) that they were assured was waiting for them. However,
) ) ) when they came within
) ) ) sight of the checkpoint a tank was blocking the path,
) ) ) and so in the dark
) ) ) and rain they tried to attract the attention of the
) ) ) soldiers in the tank.
) ) ) The lights of the ambulance were clear on the other
) ) ) side of the checkpoint
) ) ) and the Muhammad beeped the horn, and the ambulance
) ) ) turned on its siren,
) ) ) but still the soldiers in the tank made no moves.
) ) ) Finally, Muhammad got out
) ) ) of the car and shouted to the soldiers that Adla
) ) ) needed to get to the hospital
) ) ) and to let them pass - but still the soldiers refused
) ) ) t
) ) ) o respond.
) ) )
) ) ) Too terrified to try to pass, 74-year-old Muhammad
) ) ) turned the car around
) ) ) and began to return to the village, but after only ten
) ) ) meters or so Adla
) ) ) gave birth; however the baby died. Muhammad who should
) ) ) have been celebrating
) ) ) the birth of his grandchild, who was to bear his name,
) ) ) instead drove his
) ) ) daughter in law and the baby?s corpse back to the
) ) ) village.
) ) )
) ) ) Dr. Hisham An-Na?ana, the director of the delivery
) ) ) department in Rafidya
) ) ) hospital in Nablus, which Adla was attempting to
) ) ) reach, said the fact that
) ) ) the mother and child had not reached the hospital was
) ) ) definitely the cause
) ) ) of death of the boy; ?Breech births are not an unusual
) ) ) occurrence ­ and normally
) ) ) a premature baby would not have died like this. This
) ) ) child died because he
) ) ) and his mother were denied medical treatment, which
) ) ) was only five kilometers
) ) ) away.?
) ) )
) ) ) Munira Ahmed Kabaha, 30, from Tour Al-Gharbia near
) ) ) Jenin also went
) ) ) into labour early on the 6th of Decembe
) ) ) r. Her husband, Muwwafaq, telephoned
) ) ) Al-Razi hospital in Jenin, but was told that the
) ) ) ambulance could not reach
) ) ) their village because of checkpoints. However they
) ) ) arranged to meet at As-Shuhada
) ) ) junction, where his wife could be transferred to the
) ) ) ambulance.
) ) )
) ) ) They drove to the meeting point and saw an ambulance
) ) ) that had been
) ) ) stopped by Israeli troops. Regardless of the danger
) ) ) Muwwafaq continued driving.
) ) ) As he said later ?I didn?t think about the danger as
) ) ) all I wanted was to
) ) ) get my wife and baby to the hospital." The ambulance
) ) ) realized that these
) ) ) were the people who required medical treatment and
) ) ) tried to negotiate with
) ) ) the Israeli soldiers, to convince the soldiers to
) ) ) permit them to move the
) ) ) woman who by this time was in pain and giving birth.
) ) )
) ) ) After this delay, the soldiers examined the woman and
) ) ) let her go onto
) ) ) the hospital, however they were delayed too long and
) ) ) the baby died once it
) ) ) reached the hospital. The troops detained Muwwafaq and
) ) ) Munira&
) ) ) #8217;s sister for
) ) ) some time before permitting them to return to their
) ) ) village.
) ) )
) ) ) Israeli troops regularly prevent Palestinians from
) ) ) receiving medical
) ) ) treatment, and in the past two years 73 other
) ) ) Palestinians have been killed
) ) ) because of this prevention. Many woman have been
) ) ) forced to give birth at
) ) ) home with no medical assistance, others have given
) ) ) birth at checkpoints and
) ) ) were fortunate to survive, as were there babies. These
) ) ) two newborns were
) ) ) the 16th and 17th babies to have died after Israeli
) ) ) troops, or checkpoints
) ) ) or barriers or trenches, prevented their mothers to
) ) ) get the treatment they
) ) ) were so obviously in need of.
) ) )
) ) )
) ) ) )
) ) )
) ) )
) ) ) ____________________

"Wyzszosc kultury...."

[patriota]

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> To swiadczy o wyzszosci naszej kultury nad wasza.

Oj Tomek, Tomek... Czy Ty wiesz w ogole co Ty piszesz? "Wyzszosc kultury"....
Wiesz kto polugiwal sie takim jezykiem, rowniez wobec was Zydow?

P.S. Ktos piszacy cos podobnego, powinien unikac uzywania terminu "kultura".

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patriota napisał:

> Gość portalu: Tomek44 napisał(a):
>
> > To swiadczy o wyzszosci naszej kultury nad wasza.
>
> Oj Tomek, Tomek... Czy Ty wiesz w ogole co Ty piszesz? "Wyzszosc
kultury"....
> Wiesz kto polugiwal sie takim jezykiem, rowniez wobec was Zydow?
>
> P.S. Ktos piszacy cos podobnego, powinien unikac uzywania terminu "kultura".


Wiesz co? zobacz, najpierw, ze nie przeszedl caly tekst, a potem komentuj. W
dalszej czesci tlumaczylem o co chodzi z ta kultura i nie lap mnie za slowa.
A po za tym nie mialem juz zamiaru z toba dyskutowac, bo jak ci juz pisalem
masz beton zamiast glowy. I tu mozesz mi napisac, ze cie obrazilem, bo to
prawda.

[patriota]

Gość portalu: Tomek44 napisał(a):

> Wiesz co? zobacz, najpierw, ze nie przeszedl caly tekst, a potem komentuj. W
> dalszej czesci tlumaczylem o co chodzi z ta kultura i nie lap mnie za slowa.

Reszty to juz nawet czytac nie musialem. Taka wypowiedz mowi wystarczajaco
wiele. "Wyzszosc kultury..."

> A po za tym nie mialem juz zamiaru z toba dyskutowac, bo jak ci juz pisalem
> masz beton zamiast glowy. I tu mozesz mi napisac, ze cie obrazilem, bo to
> prawda.

No i dobrze. Przynajmniej spusciles nalezycie wode po tych bujnych
zapewnieniach odnosnie wlasnych "zasad". Nie zapomnij sie jeszcze (nimi)
podetrzec...

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Znow myślesz owyżeszość ja uważam to nie jest kwestia kultury..mamy opozcja
do Arafata i OWP idz na strony Hamas,i PFLP ..itd także śa profsorowie jak
Hanan Ashrawi czy Edwar dSaid czy kometet praw człowieka czy Dr
Barghuthy .oni wszedzie pieszą i są na terenie autonomi..powiem ci tylko w
palestytnie jest opozcja i rożne prywatnia tv i radia ktore krytkuja władze

[werw]

No, słyszałeś, Tomek? Mają opozycję: Hamas i PFLP.

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werw napisała:

> No, słyszałeś, Tomek? Mają opozycję: Hamas i PFLP.

nu, z pamiecia u niego tez nie najlepiej, bo zapomnial i jihad i hizballah...

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Ja mam na mysli. Jawnie krytykowac poza granicami. To znaczy n.p. pluc na
wlasny kraj, narod i t.d. Ci profesorowie oczywiscie nie pluja. Ja tylko dalem
przyklad, ze gdyby nawet , to bez problemu mogli by to robic na roznych
wykladach nawet w Izraelu, bo my mamy demokracje, a ty pokaz mi jakis kraj
arabski o takiej demokracji jak nasza.
Wiesz, jeszcze nie tak dawno, jak ktos byl przeciwko wladzy w Polsce i tylko
szepnal komus do ucha, a inne ucho to uslyszalo, szedl do wiezienia lub na
zsylke. To bylo wiele lat temu. W okresie Stalina. U was jest nadal ten okres
tylko w bardziej okrutnym wydaniu. I obaj o tym wiemy, tylko ty nie chcesz lub
nie mozesz tego powiedziec.
Takie tez bedzie wasze panstwo. A ja moj drogi kuzynie nie moge sie tego
doczekac. Ja naprawde chce abyscie mieli wlasny kraj, tylko gdybys byl moim
przyjacielem, a nie kuzynem ( wiesz jak to z rodzinka - najlepiej na zdjeciu )
to bym ci odradzal powrot.

[Gość: Do : Tomka]

Tomek.. u nas w palestynie mamy kilka dzisiąt partie i organizacji chyba
tylko u nas wśród arabów mozemy kretykować władze .mamy problemy mieszkamy
w kilku dziesięciu krajach arabskich ..tam niestety wiesz jak są
reżemy..oczywieście życie sobie żeby była u nas demokracja i wolnść ajk u
was..ale naraże wy przeszkadzacie przez okupacją..czekamy na wyborach ale jak
mozna prowadzić wybory wtakich warunkach? ..pisałem ci kiedyś o
tym...ogladaj Tv polonia .udziliłem wywiad

[galaxy2099]

Bede strzelal. Wsrod inicjatorow tego przedsiwziecia byl moj "ulubieniec" Noam Chomsky i srodowisko bostonskie.


Gość portalu: Omar napisał(a):

) Subject: [Human Rights] 800 Professors give warning and more
)
)
) )
) ) - 800 AMERICAN PROFESSORS SIGN DOCUMENT WARNING OF
) ) COMING ISRAELI ETHNIC CLEANSING
) )
) )) We, American academics and intellectuals, applaud our
) ) courageous Israeli colleagues for their recent letter
) ) warning of the possibility of ethnic cleansing in
) ) Israel and the Occupied Territories. The 187 Israeli
) ) signatories express concern that the "fog of war"
) ) [against Iraq] "could be exploited by the Israeli
) ) government to commit further crimes against the
) ) Palestinian people, up to full- fledged ethnic
) ) cleansing."
) )
) ) The Israeli professors point out that: "The Israeli
) ) ruling coalition includes parties that promote
) ) 'transfer' of the Palestinian population as a solution
) ) to what they call 'the demographic problem'.
) ) Politicians are regularly quoted in the media as
) ) suggesting forcible expulsion, most recently MKs
) ) [members of the Israeli parliament] Michael Kleiner
) ) and Benny Elon, as reported on Yediot Ahronot website
) ) on September 19, 2002. In a recent interview in
) ) Israeli daily Ha'aretz, Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon
) ) described the Palestinians as a 'cancerous
) ) manifestation' and equated the military actions in the
) ) Occupied Territories with 'chemotherapy', suggesting
) ) that more radical 'treatment' may be necessary. Prime
) ) Minister Sharon has backed this 'assessment of
) ) reality'. Escalating racist demagoguery concerning the
) ) Palestinian citizens of Israel may indicate the scope
) ) of the crimes that are possibly being contemplated."
) )
) ) Benjamin Netanyahu, the newly appointed Israeli
) ) foreign minister, previously advocated expelling
) ) Palestinians while the world was distracted with
) ) events at Tiananmen Square.
) )
) ) We join with our Israeli colleagues in calling for
) ) vigilance as events unfold in Israel and the Occupied
) ) Territories. With an average of more than $10 million
) ) dollars per day of American tax dollars going to
) ) Israel, we believe Americans cannot remain silent
) ) while crimes as abhorrent as ethnic cleansing are
) ) being openly advocated.
) )
) ) We urge our government to communicate clearly to the
) ) government of Israel that the expulsion of people
) ) according to race, religion or nationality would
) ) constitute crimes against humanity and will not be
) ) tolerated.
) )
) ) More information about the U.S. letter, including
) ) instructions on how to sign it, can be found at:
) ) (a href="http://www.professorsofconscience.org"target="_blank")www.profess
) orsofconscience.org(/a)
) )
) ) )
) ) )
) ) )
) ) The Palestine Monitor: A PNGO Information
) ) Clearinghouse
) )
) )
) ) VICTIMS OF CLOSURE
) )
) ) Israeli soldiers prevent medical treatment two
) ) newborn babies die as a result
) ) 17th December 2002
) )
) ) Adla Abdel Jaber As-Sayyefi, 37 years old, went into
) ) labour at around
) ) 3am on the morning of December 10th. Her husband
) ) rushed to his parent?s house
) ) concerned because Adla was due to go hospital to have
) ) an operation as it
) ) was going to be a breech birth, but she went into
) ) labour too early.
) )
) ) They spoke to the Red Crescent requesting an
) ) ambulance, but the ambulance
) ) was unable to reach their village of Tel because of
) ) the trenches and checkpoint
) ) s
) ) and suggested instead the ambulance and the family and
) ) Adla, meet at another
) ) checkpoint of Beit Eba, the reasoning behind this
) ) choice was that it would
) ) be less distance for the pregnant woman to walk a
) ) matter of meters, and
) ) not kilometers.
) )
) ) Adla?s husband borrowed a car from the neighbors, and
) ) Adla, her father
) ) in law Muhammad, mother in law, and her mother, went
) ) to meet the ambulance
) ) that they were assured was waiting for them. However,
) ) when they came within
) ) sight of the checkpoint a tank was blocking the path,
) ) and so in the dark
) ) and rain they tried to attract the attention of the
) ) soldiers in the tank.
) ) The lights of the ambulance were clear on the other
) ) side of the checkpoint
) ) and the Muhammad beeped the horn, and the ambulance
) ) turned on its siren,
) ) but still the soldiers in the tank made no moves.
) ) Finally, Muhammad got out
) ) of the car and shouted to the soldiers that Adla
) ) needed to get to the hospital
) ) and to let them pass - but still the soldiers refused
) ) t
) ) o respond.
) )
) ) Too terrified to try to pass, 74-year-old Muhammad
) ) turned the car around
) ) and began to return to the village, but after only ten
) ) meters or so Adla
) ) gave birth; however the baby died. Muhammad who should
) ) have been celebrating
) ) the birth of his grandchild, who was to bear his name,
) ) instead drove his
) ) daughter in law and the baby?s corpse back to the
) ) village.
) )
) ) Dr. Hisham An-Na?ana, the director of the delivery
) ) department in Rafidya
) ) hospital in Nablus, which Adla was attempting to
) ) reach, said the fact that
) ) the mother and child had not reached the hospital was
) ) definitely the cause
) ) of death of the boy; ?Breech births are not an unusual
) ) occurrence and normally
) ) a premature baby would not have died like this. This
) ) child died because he
) ) and his mother were denied medical treatment, which
) ) was only five kilometers
) ) away.?
) )
) ) Munira Ahmed Kabaha, 30, from Tour Al-Gharbia near
) ) Jenin also went
) ) into labour early on the 6th of Decembe
) ) r. Her husband, Muwwafaq, telephoned
) ) Al-Razi hospital in Jenin, but was told that the
) ) ambulance could not reach
) ) their village because of checkpoints. However they
) ) arranged to meet at As-Shuhada
) ) junction, where his wife could be transferred to the
) ) ambulance.
) )
) ) They drove to the meeting point and saw an ambulance
) ) that had been
) ) stopped by Israeli troops. Regardless of the danger
) ) Muwwafaq continued driving.
) ) As he said later ?I didn?t think about the danger as
) ) all I wanted was to
) ) get my wife and baby to the hospital." The ambulance
) ) realized that these
) ) were the people who required medical treatment and
) ) tried to negotiate with
) ) the Israeli soldiers, to convince the soldiers to
) ) permit them to move the
) ) woman who by this time was in pain and giving birth.
) )
) ) After this delay, the soldiers examined the woman and
) ) let her go onto
) ) the hospital, however they were delayed too long and
) ) the baby died once it
) ) reached the hospital. The troops detained Muwwafaq and
) ) Munira&
) ) #8217;s sister for
) ) some time before permitting them to return to their
) ) village.
) )
) ) Israeli troops regularly prevent Palestinians from
) ) receiving medical
) ) treatment, and in the past two years 73 other
) ) Palestinians have been killed
) ) because of this prevention. Many woman have been
) ) forced to give birth at
) ) home with no medical assistance, others have given
) ) birth at checkpoints and
) ) were fortunate to survive, as were there babies. These
) ) two newborns were
) ) the 16th and 17th babies to have died after Israeli
) ) troops, or checkpoints
) ) or barriers or trenches, prevented their mothers to
) ) get the treatment they
) ) were so obviously in need of.
) )
) )
) ) )
) )
) )
) ) __________________________________________________
) )

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galaxy2099 napisał:

> Bede strzelal. Wsrod inicjatorow tego przedsiwziecia byl moj "ulubieniec"
Noam
> Chomsky i srodowisko bostonskie.

Nie, Nie!
Usciskaj i wycaluj ich!
Zrobili Busha prezydentem - glosujac na Nadera.

Uzyteczni idioci :)