Wojna za kilka dni

[Gość: Lysy]

Irackie gazety odtrąbiły już "wielki sukces naszego kraju i
sprzyjających nam potęg"

No i co wy na to komuchy, jajoglowce, paSYFISCI i inni
zastanowcie sie kogo bronicie i wspieracie !, Hitler, mao i
Stalin byliby z was dumni i przypieli ordery !

A do Busha i Blaira:
'koncz wasc wstydu oszczedz !!!"

[Gość: JGA]

Chiny na temat amerykanskiego zagrozenia:

english.pravda.ru/world/2003/03/13/44336.html

[Gość: ©]

11:31 2003-03-13

China, On American Threat

As the USA intensifies the tension about Iraq, majority of experts pay special
attention to emphasized cautiousness of China. When Russia’s Foreign Minister
Igor Ivanov recently paid a visit to Beijing, he dropped hints that Russia
could use the right of veto at a session of the UN Security Council. But his
Chinese colleague Tang Jiaxuan just said general phrases on the desirability
of settlement of the Iraqi crisis in political methods. Premier of the Chinese
State Council Zhu Rongji didn’t mention Iraq in his report delivered at the
recent session of the National People’s Congress. And during the session, Tang
Jiaxuan artfully got out of replying questions whether China would use the
veto right. Within several past weeks there was hardly a publication in the
Chinese press with criticism in the USA’s address; this once again confirms
China’s unwillingness to irritate the US Administration. It was quite a
surprise that the other day the website of China’s central newspaper, People’s
Daily, published an article under the title The Fourth Stage of the American
Empire Formation. The publication was given without the author name, and
readers were offered to discuss it in the forum of the website.

The text of the well-reasoned, honest publication allows to suppose that China
is tired of feigning cautiousness: America’s threat to the whole of the world
has gone too far that it’s finally high time to call a spade a spade. And the
ending of the article sounded a concealed threat! You may see it yourself from
the abridged summary of the People’s Daily publication below.

“At the time of its founding in 1776, the United States was composed of only
13 British colonies in the East Coast, its territory at that time was like a
small long strip.

In a short space of 200-odd years' time, the United States has developed into
a peerless empire of today, the reasons for this are: besides the fact that
the country enjoys perennial relative political stability, continuing
scientific and technological innovations and new achievements in economic
development, but an important reason for this is, without doubt, its constant
external expansions.

The American history of expansion can be divided into four stages: First,
continental expansion stage; second, overseas expansion stage; third, the
stage of global contention for hegemony; and fourth, the stage of world
domination. The continental expansion stage features mainly traditional
territorial expansion, the second, third and fourth stages feature mainly the
expansion of its economic, military and cultural influence. Completion of the
expansion process in each stage brought tremendous benefits to the United
States.

Continental expansion stage extended from the founding of the United States to
the eve of the American-Spanish War. This stage featured prominently
territorial expansion. In the early period after its birth, the United States
was very weak in strength, but it took advantage of the good opportunity
offered by Europe which was busy coping with the Napoleon War... Thereafter,
the United State began large-scale westward movement. By the end of the 19th
century, US territory had extended from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific
Ocean.

The overseas expansion stage extended from the US-Spanish War to the end of
World War II. During this period, the United States had become one of the
principal capitalist countries in the world, with substantial strength and
began to contend for colonies with other colonialists. The US-Spanish War
resulted in the expansion of US spheres of influence beyond the Caribbean
region and Central America, finally forming its direct or indirect political
and economic control over Latin America. Before the outbreak of World War I,
the United States turned Latin America into its own "backyard". During this
period, US influence rapidly expanded from the continent of North America to
the Pacific region, East Asia and the entire Latin America.

The stage of global contention for hegemony ranged between 1946 and 1991,
i.e., the Cold War period. As World War II just ended, US President Harry S.
Truman put forward Truman Doctrine, contested with the Soviet Union for the
vast intermediate zones.

The disintegration of the Soviet Union after the conclusion of the Cold War
led to the disappearance of the only power that could confront the United
States which put on rising hegemonic airs and did whatever it pleased,
characterized by its simultaneous use of military, economic and cultural
means.

After the "September 11" incident, the theory on establishing the American
century or a new empire has acquired a bigger market. After the "9.11"
terrorist attacks, the United States began a new round of powerful expansion,
with the aim of expanding the US spheres of influence to the whole world. Iraq
was chosen as the first target for this new round of expansion.

If US war on Iraq could end in victory, it would further give a powerful
impetus to the force for the establishment of US empire. But many American
experts and scholars maintain that the United States should not choose a road
by which to establish global order or an American empire through unilateralism-
based military actions. Only when the United States refrains from taking the
road of pursuing global empire, can it avoid terrorists' bombs or other forms
of attacks befalling on its own territory”

Poczatek konca imperium amerykanskiego

[Gość: pacyfista]

Amerykanskie Imperium juz przegralo wojne propagandowo w oczach
opinii swiatowej. Bedzie to oznaczalo poczatek konca cesarstwa,
pomimo z pewnoscia wygranej potyczki z super-slabym
Irakiem /dlaczego wybieraja do sparringow samych najslabszych
przeciwnikow.. /. Interesujaca jest analiza spadku poparcia
Anglikow dla wojny : z ok 50% do 25% a obecnie do 10%. Mam
nadzieje ze procent Polakow przeciwnych wojnie wzrosl z 66% wg.
OBOB ze stycznia tez do 90 % bo inaczej to bylby wstyd dla
Polski.

[Gość: warmi]

Natomiast procent Amerykanow popierajacych wojne ostatnio wzrosl
znacznie.

Pacyfista, pomimo twoich nadludzkich niemal wysilkow wyglada
jednak ze 280 milion Amerykanow kopletnie zignoruje
twoje "rozdzieranie szat" i wojna sie zacznie.

[Gość: nie dezinformuj]

Gość portalu: warmi napisał(a):

> Natomiast procent Amerykanow popierajacych wojne ostatnio
wzrosl
> znacznie.
>
> Pacyfista, pomimo twoich nadludzkich niemal wysilkow wyglada
> jednak ze 280 milion Amerykanow kopletnie zignoruje
> twoje "rozdzieranie szat" i wojna sie zacznie.

Jak masz swoja opinie to sie nia podziel ale nie
dezinformuj>Dezinformacja zajmuja sie tutaj inni
(Bush,Cheney,Powell,Rumsfeld), 50% amerykanow nie popiera tej
wojny, przed domami trudno nie zauwazyc znakow "SAY NO TO WAR
WITH IRAQ", a wczoraj jadac z pracy na wlasne oczy widzialem
demonstracje intelekualistow, studentow, nauczycieli "BOOKS not
BOMBS".I wcale to nie byli komuchy czy pacyfisci.

[Gość: MM]

Gość portalu: warmi napisał(a):

> Natomiast procent Amerykanow popierajacych wojne ostatnio wzrosl
> znacznie.
>
> Pacyfista, pomimo twoich nadludzkich niemal wysilkow wyglada
> jednak ze 280 milion Amerykanow kopletnie zignoruje
> twoje "rozdzieranie szat" i wojna sie zacznie.

Nic podobnego! Po ostatnich zabiegach propagandowych, procent ludzi
popierajacych wojne bez ONZ rzeczywiscie nieco wzrosl, ale nie przekroczyl
nawet 50% spoleczenstwa. Ale tej drugiej polowy wolicie nie zauwazac, co?

COME ON. GIVE WAR A CHANCE!

[Gość: gabrielacasey]

[Gość: ile razy tobie to mowiono!]

Gość portalu: Lysy napisał(a):

> Irackie gazety odtrąbiły już "wielki sukces naszego kraju i
> sprzyjających nam potęg"
>
> No i co wy na to komuchy, jajoglowce, paSYFISCI i inni
> zastanowcie sie kogo bronicie i wspieracie !, Hitler, mao i
> Stalin byliby z was dumni i przypieli ordery !
>
> A do Busha i Blaira:
I DO CIEBIE DEBILU
> 'koncz wasc wstydu oszczedz !!!"

[Gość: Stanislaw]

Gość portalu: Lysy napisał(a):

> Irackie gazety odtrąbiły już "wielki sukces naszego kraju i
> sprzyjających nam potęg"
>
> No i co wy na to komuchy, jajoglowce, paSYFISCI i inni
> zastanowcie sie kogo bronicie i wspieracie !, Hitler, mao i
> Stalin byliby z was dumni i przypieli ordery !
>
> A do Busha i Blaira:
> 'koncz wasc wstydu oszczedz !!!"

Czy ma Pan jakies fakty, argumenty lub linki ktorymi moglby Pan zainaugurowac
nowy temat. Czy tylko ten rynsztok?

[Gość: michal_pilot]

moze nie za kilka ale za kilkanascie - im szybciej tym lepiej.

[Gość: Jerzy]

Wlasnie wczoraj w szwedzkiej prasie opisano "trumfalny" powrot "tarcz": obecnie
siedza te matolki w Ammanie i nie wiedza, co dalej robic ze soba.Hussein
chcial "tarcze" uplasowac na rafinerii ropy i atomowej elektrowni, a "tarcze"
chcialy ochraniac szpitale, szkoly itp.- czyli za duzo wlasnego tylka nie
nadstawiac. Wiec Hussein kazal im sie wynosic tam, skad przyjechali.Duze czesc,
nie czekajac rozkazu Husseina, wyjechala sama. Tylko mala, najbardziej zaciekla
ich czesc zostala.W Ammanie zebralo sie ich kilkadziesiatkow, ktora nie ma
nawet forsy na powrot.
Tylko wojna moze przyspieszyc ich powrot do domowych pieleszy.

[Gość: michal_pilot]

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