Felusiak, a mowiles, ze takich nie wolno...

[thannatos]

...rozliczac, bo oni sa potrzebni, aby gospodarka dzialala.

Madoff, który zaliczał się do najbardziej znanych i wpływowych postaci w
kręgach nowojorskiej finansjery, obracał pieniędzmi czołowych amerykańskich
biznesmenów i polityków, ale także licznych instytucji, takich jak
uniwersytety i fundacje.
gospodarka.gazeta.pl/Gielda/1,85951,6059185,Na_Wall_Street_panika_po_aresztowaniu_Madoffa.html

I co Ty teraz bez jednego ze swoich idoli z Wall Steet zrobisz?

[...]

[midnighthawk]

Post niedostępny ze względu na naruszenie prawa lub regulaminu.

[misterpee]

www.bollyn.info/home/news/news/another-massive-zionist-fraud-surfaces/

Te zlodziejstwa leca jedne po drugim, i wszystkie niemal maja te
same podloze. Pytanie jest - jak mozliwe ze te bezprawia zdarzaja
sie w USA w ostnim dziesiecioleciu i nie widac zadnego prawnego
zabezpieczenia dla spoleczenstwa..............

Kiedy mówiłem? Przypomnij mi

[felusiak1]

Toczysz sie thannatos na dno szamba....

[misterpee]

Citicorp zrobil naduzyc na biliony dolarow. Dla Felusiaka taka
ekonomia to dowod dobrobytu. Zlodziejstwo powinno byc uznane za
zalete.

And the comment about Bernard Madoff's scam being the largest may
also be untrue. There are currently allegations against Citi,
involving former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, of a ponzi scheme
where the losses have reached into the trillions of dollars and may
have been a major factor in the take down of the American economy!

[hubert100]

Najwiekszych Iluminatow nie rusza bo oni sa prawem i egzekutorem.Te
700 bilionow dane ciepla raczka dla pewnych bankow a
wielki "problem" z 14 bilionami dla przemyslu samochodowego aby 3
miliony ludzi nie "poszlo pod most" to jest najleprzy dowod co sie
dzieje i jakie sa plany.Chodzi o to aby zniszczyc narody (nie tylko
USA) i zaczac rzadzic "glodem".Ludzie w desperacji przyjma wszystkie
warunki aby fizycznie przetrwac.Ma powstac jeden swiatowy rzad i
Super Gulag na faszystowskich podstawach.

[thannatos]

Alez oczywiscie, rybenko, ze nie mowiles. Po prostu glos Ci odebralo:

...............................................
Re: Mielenie sieczki
thannatos 30.01.08, 00:54 zarchiwizowany
thannatos napisał:
> I w tym momencie takie tuby propadandowe, autorzy klamliwych reklam firm
> kredytowych i inni "magicy finansowi" powinni po prostu byc pociagnieci do
> odpowiedzialnosci, tak jak to sie stalo na przyklad z Enronem. FBI powinno
> zajrzec w ksiegi wszystkich szemranych firm kredytowych i wyciagnac na jaw
> dowody na "kreatywna polityke pieniezna",
No patrzcie, czasem i Amerykanie rusza mozgiem. :D
The FBI is investigating 14 companies embroiled in the sub-prime mortgage crisis as part of a crackdown on improper lending.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7216602.stm
Felusiak, szczoteczka do zebow przygotowana?

Bananathos, idz na spacer
felusiak1 30.01.08, 05:25 zarchiwizowany


Re: Bananathos, idz na spacer
thannatos 30.01.08, 17:30 zarchiwizowany
Nie martw sie, Tobie tez bedzie przyslugiwac pol godziny spaceru na dzien. :D


Re: Bananathos, idz na spacer
felusiak1 30.01.08, 19:08 zarchiwizowany
mnie martwi twój stan ducha. Dlatego doradzałem spacer, ale widzę że bez
interwencji specjalisty ani rusz.


Re: Bananathos, idz na spacer
thannatos 30.01.08, 22:07 zarchiwizowany
felusiak1 napisał:

> mnie martwi twój stan ducha. Dlatego doradzałem spacer, ale widzę że bez
> interwencji specjalisty ani rusz.
>

Ciekawe czy ci spece od "creative finances", ktorzy produkowali propagowany
przez Ciebie "wzrost gospodarczy", tez tak mowia agentom FBI.


Re: Bananathos, idz na spacer
felusiak1 30.01.08, 23:15 zarchiwizowany
A w Pacanowie kozy kują
........................



Bez dalszego komentarza

PS.

[thannatos]

Wczesniej oczywiscie zaprzeczyles faktowi istnienia "machloi finansowych":

.........................
felusiak1 16.01.08, 17:51 zarchiwizowany
Mało tego, te twoje diagnozy
nie maja nic wspólnego z rzeczywistościa. Te machinacje finansowe na rynku
nieruchomości i zamaskowane kredyty i krasnale oferujace karty kredytowe
kanonikom z biblią pod pachą."
..................

A potem umiales tylko o Pacanowie opowiadac.

Ciekawe jaka bajke opowie Mr. Madoff.

[hubert100]

Felus cos zupelnie ucichl. Moze siedzi????

Iź na spacer

[felusiak1]

Pizdzisz jak nakrecony.
I co ty mi tu cytujesz?

PS. Nie zaczepiaj mnie. Wyrosłem juz z piaskownicy i krótkich majtek
i lepienie babek z błota mnie nie bawi. Znajdz sobie kogos innego.
Moze misterpee albo watto....

[thannatos]

Felusiak,

a jak ja juz pojde na spacer, to Ty wtedy przyznasz, ze chciwosc baronow biznesu w polaczeniu z rozmyslnym wycofaniem mechanizmow kontroli rynku za czasow administracji GWB
www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/1174/
(nawet Madoff przyznaje, ze naprawde krasc zaczal dopiero w roku 2005) prowadzily USA w szambo gospodarcze, z ktorego dlugo beda wypelzac?

Czy nadal bedziesz jechal w "state of denial" rzucajac zwirkiem z piaskownicy?

Przestań mnie dawać sieczke

[felusiak1]

fundowaną przez Sorosa. Tym OMB to możesz sobie podetrzeć....
Bzdura goni bzdurę. Nawet jeśli twoja idiotyczna teza o zaniechaniu
kontroli jest prawdziwa to twój link tego nie udowadnia.
Może zacznij dawać linki do blogów bo te instytuty sa g...o warte.
A co na to Institut Błagorodnych Panien?

[thannatos]

> A co na to Institut Błagorodnych Panien?

Nie wiem, ale Rosji zycze, aby jeszcze sobie posiedziala w kryzysie. Nie
zarabiam w rublach i nie mam w nich inwestycji. I tak za wiele sie nazarli
poprzez nadmierna deprecjacje dolara i inne kretynstwa zawyzajace ceny ropy,
jakie swiatu zafundowala klika "GWB i reszta Shayki".

Inna sprawa z "lokomotywa gospodarcza" swiata zachodniego. Tu jestem zywotnie
zainteresowany poprawa sytuacji. A moze sie ona dokonac miedzy innymi poprzez
wywalenie na zielona trawke "ekonomistow" Twego pokroju. A jeszcze lepiej za
kratki, jak Madoffa.

Nie mogę złagodzić twoich cierpień

[felusiak1]

Bush Derangement Syndrome jest nieuleczalny. Zwalnia z myslenia.
Tak jak drzewiej wszystkiemu winni byli imperialiści tak teraz wszystkiemu
winien jest Bush i "reszta Shayki".
W roku 2000 Bush spowodował kryzys konstytucyjny jak rzekł był Algore.
I tak mu zostało. Same kryzysy. No ale teraz ma być dobrze. Człowiek poczekał i ma.

Straszne Wiesci

[thannatos]

WASHINGTON - Federal regulators on Thursday adopted sweeping new rules for the
credit card industry that will shield consumers from increases in interest rates
on existing account balances among other changes.

The rules, which take effect in July 2010, will allow credit card companies to
raise interest rates only on new credit cards and future purchases or advances,
rather than on current balances.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28294720/
Felusiak, ja Ciebie prosze Ty sie nie zeszlochaj.

[misterpee]

Meddof oszukal nawet swoich ziomkow,

The programs of the Robert I. Lappin Charitable Foundation and the
Robert I. Lappin 1992 Supporting Foundation are discontinued,
effectively immediately. This includes Youth to Israel and Teachers
to Israel.

The money used to fund the programs of both Foundations was invested
with Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities and all the assets have
been frozen by the federal courts. Mr. Madoff was arrested Thursday
morning by the FBI and charged with criminal securities fraud by
federal prosecutors. The money needed to fund the programs of the
Lappin Foundations is gone.

The Foundation staff has been terminated today.

“It is with a heavy heart that I make this announcement,” said
Robert I. Lappin, Foundation trustee. “The Foundations’ programs
have touched thousands of lives over many years in our efforts to
help keep our children Jewish.”

[hubert100]

Wszystko zaczelo sie od 30 Srebrnikow.

[thannatos]

Tu bajeczka w formie rozwinietej:

gospodarka.gazeta.pl/Gielda/1,85951,6061992,Bernie_Madoff___czlowiek_piramida.html

[hubert100]

Przewalil cala plejade Zydow. Miedzy innymi Spielberg tez dal tam
dupy. Tylko felus sie uratowal bo zainwestowal w burdel w Detroit.

[hubert100]

Tu jest w Kanadzie taki dosyc znany compozytor i spiewak ballad
Leonard Cohen. Tez jakis Zyd przewalil mu wszystko co naskladal na
emeryture. Tak ze na starosc musial znowu wziac sie do roboty. Ps.
Slyszeliscie, felus sie z pierdla odezwal i powiedzial ze sumienie
nie daje mu spokoju.

[hubert100]

Hurra, US placi "0" interest. Przetrzymaja ci pieniadze za darmo. A
to juz jest cos. Powiedzieli ze rozru...a ekonomie uzywajac "All
Tools". Dr. Fussmaister jedz tam z tym swoim mlotkiem, moze sie
przydac. Felus cie odbierze z lotniska!!

[zbalansowany]

0% oznacza ze FED wystrzelal juz wszystkie naboje.
Przewiduje spadki na gieldzie i spadek $ w sosunku do Euro i innych
walut.
A co do tego przekretu na 50 miliardow dolcow, to mysle ze
nalezaloby wszystkich pejsatych wypieprzyc z wszystkich instytucji
finansowych i z gieldy. To juz najwyzszy czas!

[hubert100]

Tak to jest jak lis pilnuje kurnika!!!

Za jakimi kratkami - juz na wolnosci

[zbalansowany]

Madoff Moved The
Money To Israel?
Amount May Be Closer To $100 Billion
From Mark Graffis
12-18-8

As more info comes in regarding the Madeoff scheme, news from
several sources say that Madeoff and his clients were the largest
bank account holders listed on a computer disk leaked by a Swiss
bank worker regarding US persons with hidden Swiss bank accounts.

As the IRS approached him regarding the repayment of taxes from his
hidden swiss account, Madeoff reportedly became admamant that his
wealth would not be taxed by the US. He also realized that once the
swiss records were exposed that his and his client's wealth were
also within reach of seizure or judgement by a US court regarding
past frauds of him or his clients.

Realizing that he was be certain to arrested on other securities and
market making fraud issues in the near future, insiders say that it
was at this point he made the decision to just say it was all lost
in trading and move it directly to Israel. Insiders also report that
he was ready to pay the taxes on the money in Israel but was adamant
that taxes in the US would not be paid nor would any of the money be
available for US court judgements in subprime, fraudlent trading and
misrepresentation charges in the future.

Sources say that most of his and his clients wealth were gained
through issuing subprime mortgages to unqualified borrowers and then
tranching the mortgages into CDOs and circulating the CDOs among US
pension funds including GM, GE, IBM and Califorina's State pension
fund. Some of the wealth was also gotten through investments in
Vegas housing sub divisions and Miami condo projects at the height
of the real estate bubble.

Finally, sources say that the wealth from Madeoff's scam has been
fully transfered to Israel and that "most if not all of the clients
have been made aware" that their money is available to them in
Israel and that it was felt that this was a necessary measure in
protecting certain high level clients in the face of a collapse of
the USA.

A European bank executive has said early this morning that the Banks
involved in Madeoff's fund were exposed through loads and leveraging
and that these loans will be repaid in full from Israel.

All of the charities involved have Israeli offices, so they also are
of an understanding that their money is now available there.

Sources say that Madeoff has a base in Israel and that he will offer
all clients his services there as a continuem to his services in New
York.

Speculation has it that he is advising transfer of client's funds
into physical gold holdings in coded safety deposit boxes. This
advise jives with the notion that the money needed to be taken out
of the US on fear of collapsing US dollar and seizure of funds by
IRS and courts for frauds committed during the sub prime bubble.

The Swiss bank client leak has caused these banks to no longer be
viable avenues for asset concealment.
Madeoff's clients are not just in the US. He has moved funds to
Israel for clients in Russia, France, England and Swiss in the
scheme in which he is involved.

Some insiders are saying the amount involved may be closer to $100
Billion.

[thannatos]

Zuch chlopak! Prawdziwy neoliberal.

Felusiak i to co sie tu paletalo o nazwie i_love_wall_street (czy jakos tak, ciekawe gdzie ten nick sie teraz podziewa) musza byc z niego dumni.

To wlasnie dzieki takim jak on:
WASHINGTON (AFP) – Vice president-elect Joseph Biden, in his first interview since the November 4 election, told ABC TV that the US economy was in "much worse shape" than he thought...
"It will take longer than any of us would like

[kyle_broflovski]

www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr12-19-08.html

[zapluty.karzel.reakcji]

Bernard Madoff
J. Ezra Merkin
Louis Jay Pearlman

[zbalansowany]

Keep Blowing And The
Bailout Bubble Will Burst
By Frosty Wooldridge
12-22-8

If you blow long enough, you will burst any bubble. If you fail to
maintain your brakes, they will break down at some inopportune time.
Failure to maintain personal solvency in your bank account leads to
bankruptcy. When you carry a balance on your credit card, you pay
far higher than the original cost of the item or service.

How do you - or a nation - arrive at a point of financial breakdown?
Does arrogant entitlement and over-extension beyond one's means
resonate with today's news headlines?

On a national level, we experience the severity of living on
international credit-now come home to roost. For the past 20 years,
our Congress encouraged massive outsourcing, insourcing and
offshoring of American jobs. That caused us to lose our
manufacturing base and facilities. Thus, today, we tolerate a $700
billion annual trade deficit. We pay China, India and other third
world countries to manufacture our goods at lower prices while our
middle class languishes with millions of job losses-and cannot
continue buying those goods.

Few Americans realize that when you shop at such stores as Wal-Mart,
Lowe's, Kohl's, Home Depot and Target, you slit your neighbor's and
your own financial throat.

James Howard Kunstler, author of, The Long Emergency,
said, "Americans failed to recognize the essential fraudulence of
the idea that this destruction was 'creative' and would lead to a
higher good, that the end justified the means, even as they watched
their towns die around them. Wal-Mart and its imitators used their
wealth and muscle to set up 'superstores' on the cheap land outside
small towns and put every other merchant out of business, often
destroying most of the town's middle class. They also destroyed the
local capacity to produce goods. The public enjoyed this bonanza
of 'supercheap' manufactured goods without reckoning any of the
collateral costs, which were astronomical."

While Congress dismantled our manufacturing and construction base,
and millions of necessary jobs, Congress exacerbated our
vulnerability by borrowing (selling), unknown to average citizens,
$1.3 trillion in Treasury Bills from (to) China to prop up our
moribund economy. On a national level, the average credit card runs
a $9,240.00 balance (debt) according to NBC's Brian Williams. Total
consumer debt exceeds $2 trillion. National debt tops $10.1
trillion! Ahh, the abundance of unsubstantiated bailouts flow from a
Monopoly Board checkbook!

Additionally, another $700 billion vanishes from our nation annually
with the cost of imported oil. Since the oil crisis of the 1970s,
this nation failed to place any kind of a fuel-conservation policy
into effect. Despite President Carter's sage warning concerning
reducing oil consumption drastically, we ignored him and continued
our full-blast consumption habits surpassing California wild fires!
After all, Alaska oil fields opened-seemingly refuting limitations!
As if to render our insolence acceptable, we continue our myth that
another discovery in Alaska, Antarctica or the Gulf of Mexico will
dismantle any 'oil crisis hypotheses'.

"After all, this is America!" Paris Hilton, prominent and highly
sought-after Hollywood authority, said. "Limits are unacceptable!"

The day approaches, likely 2010, supported by the Hubbert Curve
analysis-when galloping population expansion collides with declining
oil extraction.

Similarly, we falsified home values with escalated appraisals
cradled in vacuous, lofty ideals. We allowed millions of poor
borrowers without down payments or viable financial histories to
purchase homes clearly outside their range.

"No problema amigo," Wells Fargo bankers said. "We can work the
numbers to make the American Dream yours!"

Surprise! The real estate bubble burst. Millions of foreclosures
are strangling American citizens and poor migrants who lost jobs
while they watched interest rates rise beyond their means.

Can you guess the next bubble to burst? What can we see exploding in
our faces? What crisis long denied by our presidents and Congress
zeroes-in on our civilization like a stealth missile?

Immigration-driven hyper-population growth extends its ubiquitous
tentacles into every aspect of American society.

While, according to President Bush, 573,000 manufacturing jobs
vanished in November, the United States imported 200,000 job-
seeking immigrants from third world countries. It doesn't end there!
Our myopic Congress proposes doubling legal immigration to 2.4
million annually and giving amnesty for 20 million plus illegal
migrants! Watch for that political torpedo in 2009.

U.S. Representative Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) promoted an H-1B bill to add
550,000 foreign workers.

That's on top of another 200,000 immigrants added in December! Add
another 200,000 immigrants in January, and the same, month in and
month out!

Does anyone see the correlation with our financial plight? Where is
the common sense of importing more bodies when our own workers stand
in unemployment lines?

Now is the time for sensible decision making-as other countries must
decide-regarding how many immigrants we can sustain before exploding
into chaos. We accept more immigrants annually than all other
countries combined!

Our natural resources suffer over-extension today! California's
accelerating water shortages, arable land loss plus overwhelming
debt strangles its sustainability! California depicts and portends
America's future. From the looks of things in the past two months,
baby, we're already there!

Why do we entertain inviting millions more immigrants into our
country when our middle class stands in welfare lines, visits soup
kitchens, floods into food banks and loses homes?

What might make a viable future achievable?

We must return to a frugality mentality. We must pay for only what
we can afford. Congress, yeah, that's you, both democrats and
republicans-import only what we need if we cannot manufacture it.
How about a hefty dose of conservation versus our rampant national
throwaway mentality?

Our current national dilemma stems from Congress' irresponsible
actions to this point. Doesn't it sound reasonable to change our
actions toward functional and viable outcomes?

Our immigration-inflated population and extravagant resource-
devouring society must return to balance. Homeostasis of our economy
and demographics! Americans decry limits; however, denial of their
reality will assuredly burst the balloon of our inflated
civilization. Limits exist! Face them now or feel them later!

Kunstler said, "At peak oil and just beyond, there is massive
potential for system failures of all kinds-social, economic and
political. Peak is quite literally a tipping point. Beyond peak
oil, things unravel and the center does not hold. Beyond peak, all
bets are off about civilization's future."

"Can you think of any problem in any area of human endeavor on any
scale, from microscopic to global, whose long-term solution is in
any demonstrable way aided, assisted, or advanced by further
increases of population, locally, nationally, or globally." Dr.
Albert Bartlett

[hubert100]

W 2009 federal budget deficit 2 trillion i trade deficit 900
billion!!! Z kat te pieniadze maja sie wziac? Czy ktos wie??