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wlasna dzialalnosc

IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 03.01.06, 01:48
Czy wczesniejsza wlasna dzialalnosc ma jakies negatywne skutki przy
rekrutacji do EPSO?
Czy ma jakies pozytywne skutki?
Co w przypadku firmy: tlumaczenia + consulting?

Rozumiem, ze z chwila podjecia pracy epsa, firme zamykamy?
Pozdrawiam.
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    • adm-adm Re: wlasna dzialalnosc 03.01.06, 09:30
      Nie ma zadnych skutkow. Natomiast w przypadku konkursu z doswiadczeniem
      zawodowym musisz byc w stanie ta dzialnosc udokumentowac.
      Bedac epsem nie wolno prowadzic zadnej dzialalnosci.
      • Gość: KAlina Re: wlasna dzialalnosc IP: *.cec.eu.int 03.01.06, 11:04
        Bedac EPSEM owszem mozesz prowadzic dzialalnosc ale musisz udowodnic ze ona nie
        koliduje z twoimi obowiazkami w pracy. Nie wiem jak to sie dokladnie robi ale
        sa jakies procedury jak to sie robi.
        Znajomy ktory daje tez wyklad na uniwerku musial miec pozwolenie dyrektora ale
        to nie dzialanosc gospodarcza.
        • adm-adm Re: wlasna dzialalnosc 03.01.06, 11:32
          Bedac epsem nie mozesz prowadzic dzialalnosci ktora przynosilaby ci dochod
          wiekszy niz .. 4500 euro rocznie... wiec de facto... a i na to musisz miec
          zgode, no i oczywiscie nie moze to kolidowac z interesami pracodowacy... jest
          to przepis pozwalajacy urzednikom dac czasami jakis wyklad, czy wspolpracowac z
          jakims projektem, za symboliczne wynagrodzenia:-)ale nie przewiduje sie
          prowadzenia dzialnosci jako takiej:-)a o zwykla dzialalnosc gospodarcza- firma
          tlumaczeniowa- bylo pytanie.
          • adm-adm wlasna dzialalnosc przepisy 03.01.06, 11:36
            The Staff Regulations (Article 12b) state that if you want to undertake any
            type of work outside your institution, whether paid or unpaid, or to hold any
            office outside of the EU institutions, you must first obtain permission from
            your appointing authority.

            In assessing requests to engage in outside work, the authority takes account of
            the following:

            the nature of the work (it must be compatible with the professional ethics
            associated with your post);
            the amount of work involved and its potential effect on your ability to work
            for your institution;
            the amount of any remuneration you are liable to receive in return;
            whether the work is of any use to your institution.
            You are permitted to carry out voluntary work, charity work, teaching and the
            like, providing (i) such work does not prevent you from meeting your
            obligations in terms of working hours, as laid down in Article 55 of the Staff
            Regulations and (ii) they do not constitute a job in themselves.

            You are not, however, permitted to carry out any of the following types of work:

            outside work, whether paid or unpaid, in a "profession" (such as an architect,
            lawyer, economist, accountant, IT professional, engineer, interpreter, doctor,
            translator, etc).
            work in private companies, even if it is unpaid and your role is merely
            nominal.
            teaching or other pedagogical work, whether paid or not, for more than 100
            hours per school year, unless your appointing authority, after consulting the
            Director-General for Personnel and Administration, deems such work beneficial
            to the Communities.
            Note – as a holder of a special identity card, you are not authorised to
            perform any work other than that for which you were recruited by the EU.

            Note - the above are only examples: your institution reserves the right to
            assess each case on its merits as regards the type of work proposed before
            making its decision. Permission may be refused if the work you will be
            performing or the office you will be holding are liable to compromise your
            independence or prejudice the work of the EU.

            In addition, the maximum net annual remuneration you may receive for all work
            you undertake outside the EU institutions is €4 500. Any amounts received over
            and above this must be turned over to your institution.

            It goes without saying that no outside work may be performed either on the
            premises of the institutions or during your normal working hours.

            Note - permission granted under Article 12b of the Staff Regulations is valid
            for a maximum of one year from the date of the decision to grant permission, or
            for a lesser period, which will be stated in the decision. If you wish to
            extend or renew your permission, you must submit a fresh request.

        • Gość: pawiu no a ten maly burdelik IP: *.3-136-217.adsl.skynet.be 03.01.06, 12:38
          co go epsy prowadzily to byla dzialanosc a jednak nikt nie pochwalil ;)
          • adm-adm Re: no a ten maly burdelik 03.01.06, 12:53
            chyba jasno stoi napisane ze dzialalnosc charytatywna jest dozwolona!
            ;-)
            • paw_dady Re: no a ten maly burdelik 03.01.06, 12:58
              adm-adm napisała:

              > chyba jasno stoi napisane ze dzialalnosc charytatywna jest dozwolona!
              > ;-)


              powiedzmy w tym przypadku non-profie przeca nie mieli zyskow wiec podatkow
              hassan ktory bym major domo nie placil no niee? dzast for fan ;)
              • Gość: Kalina Re: no a ten maly burdelik IP: *.cec.eu.int 03.01.06, 15:32
                Adm to wszystko jasne ale podejrzewam ze np mozna byc wlascicielem jakiejs
                firmy.
                Mam kolege ktory ma firme w ktrej ma 50 procent udzialow. Sam w niej nie
                pracuje ale ktos ja dla niego prowadzi.

                Czy to jest dzialanosc?
                • adm-adm Re: no a ten maly burdelik 03.01.06, 15:35
                  Twoj kolega niech sie nie przyznaje :-)
                  • adm-adm praca malzonka- obowiazek zgloszenia 03.01.06, 15:41
                    tak a propos ograniczen jakim podlegamy, moze kogos zaciekawi: praca zarobkowa
                    malzonka- partnera podlega zgloszeniu, i ocenie kompatybilnosci:-))


                    Paid work by your husband or wife (Article 13, Staff Regulations)
                    Rules
                    Your appointing authority
                    Contact person
                    Rules The Staff Regulations (Article 13, first sentence) stipulate that: "If
                    the spouse of an official is in gainful employment, the official shall inform
                    the appointing authority of his institution".

                    Important: For the purposes of Article 13 of the Staff Regulations, unmarried
                    partners are regarded as spouses if the three first conditions of Article 1(2)
                    (C) of Annex VII are met.

                    If there is ANY change in your husband or wife’s professional situation,
                    therefore, you are obliged to declare this to the head of the "Family
                    allowances" section in PMO1 and the JSIS settlements office (PMO3) in writing.

                    The second sentence of Article 13 furthermore specifies that:

                    "Should the nature of the employment prove to be incompatible with that of the
                    official and if the official is unable to give an undertaking that it will
                    cease within a specified period, the appointing authority shall, after
                    consulting the Joint Committee, decide whether the official shall continue in
                    his post or be transferred to another post."

                    You must be aware of this requirement and if you have the slightest suspicion
                    of a potential conflict of interest between your husband/wife’s professional
                    situation and your work in your institution, you must inform your appointing
                    authority by filling out the appropriate form (64,5 kb).

                    You must provide the information needed for your case to be properly assessed,
                    in particular:

                    a precise description of your duties and the interests at stake;
                    a detailed description of your husband/wife’s work and information on his/her
                    employer;
                    your opinion on the situation and any other information that could help the
                    appointing authority assess the situation.
                    The administration will rule on your case as appropriate, possibly after
                    consulting your Directorate-General or Service. In doing so it will take the
                    following factors into account:

                    the consequences of the situation for the Commission’s interests;
                    the relationship between the your professional duties and your private
                    interests or those of your family or husband/wife;
                    the possibility that you may be open to accusations of bias or liable to have
                    your independence compromised.
                    On the basis of these considerations, the appointing authority will decide
                    whether you should stay in your current post or be transferred to another.

                    • Gość: Kalina Re: praca malzonka- obowiazek zgloszenia IP: *.cec.eu.int 03.01.06, 15:48
                      W sumie to maja racje z tymi przepisami.
                      Ale te prawidla i tak bylyby pestka w Polskim systemie gdzie dzialanosc
                      prowadza dziadkowie, kuzyni itp nawet zmarli czlonkowie rodzin.

                      Ja zawsze niezle sie usmiewam czytajac np deklaracje poslow, euro poslow czy
                      komisarzy. Biedni jak myszy koscielne:)))))
                  • Gość: Sofi Oczywiscie ze IP: *.cec.eu.int 03.01.06, 17:21
                    mozna byc wlascicielem np. Sp. z o.o. podobnie jak mozna posiadac akcje na
                    gieldzie (w koncu to tez forma udzialow).

                    Bycie wspolwlascicielem Sp. z o.o. nie jest forma dzialalnosci gospodarczej,
                    tylko forma inwestycji. Dzialanosc gospodarcza rejestruje sie w gminie, Sp. z
                    o.o. w rejestrze handlowym. Tyle roznic ktore na pierwszy rzut oka przychodza
                    mi do glowy.

                    Generalnie problem juz z bardzo roznych powodow przeanalizowalam na rozne
                    sposoby i wspolwlasciciel Sp. z o.o. wydaje mi sie jedyna mozliwa forma
                    zachowania biznesu w Polsce, przy zalozeniu ze nie chcemy jednoczesnie naginac
                    Staff Regulations. Oczywiscie pod warunkiem, ze wspolwlascicel nie figuruje na
                    liscie pracownikow takiej spolki - ale tego zaden wspolwlasciciel nie robi z
                    powodow podatkowych, o czym juz w innej bajce.
                    • adm-adm Re: Oczywiscie ze 03.01.06, 18:29
                      miec udzialy - tak
                      prowadzic dzialalnosc- nie:-)
                    • Gość: paw@home inna bajka IP: *.3-136-217.adsl.skynet.be 03.01.06, 20:23
                      udzialy bo chodzi o dywidende, no niee? nie kumuluje sie wewnatrz EU z
                      dochodami osobistymi. Ciekawe jak jest z zsailkiem dla biednego malzonka EPSKI
                      tez sie nie dodaje? ;P
                • Gość: paw@home kolega kaliny IP: *.3-136-217.adsl.skynet.be 03.01.06, 20:27
                  wie gdzie konfitury pracuje np w DG rybolostwo i jest wspoludzilowcem spoki
                  rybackiej. No i tak sie robi kase a nie kiepskie pensyjki po 5k miees...


                  a kto niby skontroluje gdzie tych pare milionow EUR poszlo no niee? po prostu
                  niema i juz.

                  i wiemy o czym wieszczu pisal - "milijon jestem i za milijony cierpie" w EPSO
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