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hadn't czy wouldn't???

IP: 83.168.104.* 06.05.05, 18:09
i jeszcze nie wiedzialam co wpisac w test luk.napiszcie wyrazy ktore
pamietacie.tam bylo "be driven"??" albo parents "living"? a przy tym
help__other out nie wiedzialam!!aha i jeszcze w tym wczesniejszym bylo take
off??
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    • Gość: lewelka Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.compower.pl 06.05.05, 18:15
      ja dalam hadnt, bo to byl ten kondyszonal z musztarda po obiecie......, znaczy
      3:D
    • Gość: mat Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:16
      ja dałem hadn't, take off sie zgadza ,tak samo living, i be driven. w tym help
      nie wiedzialem
    • Gość: Tomeck Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:16
      Tez mam be driven i living ^^

      Oprocz tego wpisalem help each other out ale pewnie zle =|
      • Gość: m Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:17
        a wlasnie ze dobrze :)
        • Gość: Tomeck Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:20
          Super! A myslalem ze zle mi poszla czesc gramatyczna =P
    • Gość: >ICE< Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.i / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:17
      ja mam wouldn't.

      1. living
      2. to
      3. when
      4. they
      5. drive
      6. had used
      7. whose
      8. will try
      9. each
      10. on
      • Gość: m Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:21
        > 3. when
        dałam if, mozliwe ze obie odpowiedzi sa poprawne...:/

        > 5. drive
        tu raczej chodzilo o strone bierna, czyli 'be driven', dzieciaki same do szkoly
        nie pojada ;)

        > 6. had used
        'have been using', glownie ze wzgledu na 'for' w dalszej czesci zdania

        Reszta tak samo :)
    • Gość: iwonka Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: 83.168.104.* 06.05.05, 18:23
      tam chyba nie bedzie whose,tylko "having" bo nic wiecej nie bylo o tym
      synie.poza tym ja wpisalam have been using(albo have used) a nie wpadlam na to
      each :/
      • Gość: ka yyyy IP: *.acn.waw.pl 06.05.05, 18:28
        1) have used to niby co wedlug ciebie? wlasnie ze tez z FOR. uwazam ze i
        p.perfect i p. perfect continous sa dobre.
        2) a moze byc living AT??? bo cos chyba nie do konca..ja wpisalam co innego
        3) be driven tez tak srednio pasuje..wiem ze trzeba bylo zmienic,ale ja
        zostawilam drive..bo be taken szybciej...jak niby be driven??troche dziwne..
        • Gość: ... Re: yyyy IP: *.finemedia.pl 06.05.05, 18:42
          Past Perfect Continuous powinien być proszę Państwa... HAD been using ------>
          sytuacja zaprzeszła
          • Gość: ka Re: yyyy IP: *.acn.waw.pl 06.05.05, 18:45
            tez sie nad tym zastanawialam ale w koncu napisalam inaczej...bo niby tekst
            jest w czasie przeszlym..ale jednak tak jak by do ,,teraz" tak sie
            dzieje...chociaz sama nie wiem.
          • Gość: iwonka Re: yyyy IP: 83.168.104.* 06.05.05, 18:48
            ale tam jest: the decision has outraged
            • Gość: ka Re: yyyy IP: *.acn.waw.pl 06.05.05, 18:52
              a poza tym had been using?? to jest czas najrzadziej uzywany ze
              wszystkich...wlasciwie nie uzywany...
            • Gość: barteksanok Re: yyyy IP: *.abacus.sanok.pl / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 18:57
              ja tez dałem drive zamiast strony biernej i jako ze jest to poprawnie
              gramatycznie, a o to przeciez chodzi - to powinni uznac, ja jak byłem dzieckiem
              to kierowałem juz czasem samochodem, i huj ze to srednio logiczne, ze maluchy
              brykaja autkami, wazne ze gramatyka jest jak nalezy, tak sadze :-) !!!
              • Gość: malwa Re: yyyy IP: *.opole.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:03
                nie przejmujcie sie tak za to zad jest tak malo punktow ze szok!!! i nie dali
                zadnych transformacji... skandal ;)
              • Gość: Asiek Re: yyyy IP: *.aster.pl / *.aster.pl 06.05.05, 20:50
                sie zgadzam,zrobilam tak samo...licze na to ze jednak gramatyka bedzie sie
                liczyc bardziej niz logika ;-)
    • Gość: iwonka Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: 83.168.104.* 06.05.05, 19:04
      mam prawidlowe odp: living,when(if,while),they,be driven,have been using(have
      used),whose,will try,each(the),on :)) sprawdzone zrodlo
      • Gość: Slawek Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.satfilm.net.pl / *.satfilm.net.pl 06.05.05, 19:05
        ja na samym poczatku dalem wouldn't ... ale potem zmienilem na didn't i chyab
        zle zrobilem :/
      • Gość: krecik Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.miechow.com / 82.177.44.* 06.05.05, 21:08
        hehe jeśli te odpowiedzi są dobre to mam komplet z tego zadania :)
    • Gość: UnionJack DIDN'T REACH IP: *.kaczory.sdi.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:05
      Chodzi o zadanie z II arkusza, tak? WOULDN'T odpada, bo po IF nie może być czasu
      FUTURE (są wyjątki, ale to nie tu). To wcale nie jest III okres! Spójrzcie: oni
      sobie siedzą w tym śnieżku i rozumują, że jak rano ich ekipa nie odnajdzie to
      sobie umrą. Gdyby wczuć się w nich, to mówili wtedy: "If they don't reach us
      (nad ranem, w przyszłości!), we have little chance of surving" (I conditional).
      A po sprawie oni relacjonują wydarzenia z przeszłości, używają mowy zależnej, w
      której wszystkie czasy cofa się o 1 do tyło. Present simple stanie się Past
      Simple, a have przejdzie w had. Dlatego powstaje zdanie: "We knew that if they
      didn't reach us, we had little chance of surviving".
      • Gość: Slawek Re: DIDN'T REACH IP: *.satfilm.net.pl / *.satfilm.net.pl 06.05.05, 19:06
        tez mam didn't :D
      • Gość: Paweł Re: DIDN'T REACH IP: *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:08
        ZGADZAM SIĘ ... tez mam Didn't reach .. i to jestem prawie pewien że dobrze :D
        .... ale mam inny problem .. bo chyab nei zakreśliłem tematu na wypracowaniu ...
        i jak mi nie uznają to sie pochlastam
      • Gość: BARTEKSANOK te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.abacus.sanok.pl / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:08
        ZNALAZŁEM TEN ARTYKUŁ Z OFICJALNEJ STRONY GAZETY : WWW.TELEGRAPH.CO.UK TO
        POWINNO ROWIAC WSZYSTKIE MOZLIWOSCI ( JA MAM TU DWA ZLE A RESZTE OK) :-)

        An education authority has told parents that their children no longer qualify
        for free travel after officials measured the distance from their homes and
        discovered the school's back gate was 200 yards closer than the front gate.

        The school was previously calculated to be just beyond a three-mile limit,
        enabling parents living at Titchfield Park, Hants, to qualify for free bus
        passes for their children.

        Hampshire County Council sent officers to confirm the distance. They discovered
        that, if the children used the back gate, it was just under the three-mile
        statutory limit.

        Parents have now been told they must pay £400 a year to continue using the bus
        service or else the pupils must walk or be driven to reach Henry Court
        Community School, Fareham.

        The decision has outraged the 17 families of the 22 children who have been
        using the service. They say their children now have to walk across fields or
        alongside busy roads.

        Joyce Reilly, a nurse whose son Stuart, 13, is affected by the ruling,
        said: "We will try to pool our resources and help each other out. But it is
        going to be impossible for some to get to work on time."

        Andy Barncastle, manager of the council's passenger transport operations,
        said: "The three-mile limit is part of legislation and has to fall somewhere."

        • Gość: UnionJack Re: te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.kaczory.sdi.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:11
          Dasz dokładny link? : )

          A jeżeli może być "have been using" to może być też, moim zdaniem, "have used".
          W końcu teraz przestali i rzecz już nie trwa, prawda? A continues sugeruje
          trwanie sytuacji do teraz.
        • Gość: ka Re: te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.acn.waw.pl 06.05.05, 19:12
          no dobra, ale uwazam ze powinni uznawac kilka odpowiedzi prawidlowych,np.
          koniecznie tez have used bo wlasciwie nie ma tu roznicy..
          • Gość: scraface Re: te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.one.pl 06.05.05, 19:17
            jest roznica bo present perfect continious uzywasz do wyrazania czynnosci ktora
            sie rozpoczela w przeszlosci i trwa dalej (lub ma widoczne skutki w
            terazniejszosci), dlatego jest wlasnie
            have been using.

            p.perfecta uzywasz najczescie do stanow(np. emocjonlanych) ktore sie zdazyly w
            przeszlosci i trafiaja do teraz
            • Gość: UJ Re: te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.kaczory.sdi.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:36
              Ale ona NIE trwa dalej :) Koniec jazdy, bo mają najpierw zapłącić :) Tu jest
              użyte w dugej, żeby podkreślić że to aż 3 lata trwało, jak se jeździły - a teraz
              już nie.
              • Gość: Asiek Re: te ZADANIE NA GRAMATYKE IP: *.aster.pl / *.aster.pl 06.05.05, 20:47
                no to moze "had been using"...?Ja tak wpisalam...:-\
    • Gość: rodion Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.imperiumnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:09
      w 3. nie mogłoby być poza if i when, as?
      • Gość: gosc Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:19
        mam pytanie do tego fragmentu

        Hampshire County Council sent officers to confirm the distance. They discovered
        that, if the children used the back gate, it was just under the three-mile
        statutory limit.

        czy myslicie ze klucz bedzie mial kilka opcji? bo np wydaje mi sie ze po
        wpisaniu zamiast if slowa because sens gramatyczny bedzie zachowany? chyba ze
        sie myle ?
        • Gość: . Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:22
          ku rwa

          ja dałem "all" the children...

          nie wiem w czym rzecz
          • Gość: anf Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.net.sfc.pl 06.05.05, 19:31
            no patrz, ja tez -___-
        • Gość: m Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:22
          Because? No co Ty...
          • Gość: gosc Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:28
            to moze wyjasnisz mi czemu to zdanie jest niepoprawne gramatycznie: They
            discovered
            that, because the children used the back gate, it was just under the three-mile
            statutory limit.
            • Gość: m Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:35
              Jesli chodzi o gramatyke, to przed 'it' dalabym kropke. Ale ok, gramatycznie w
              porzadku.
              Jednak sensu w kontekscie calosci zdanie to nie ma w ogole, bez szans zeby
              uznali 'because'.
    • Gość: ddd mika Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:36

      Pupils miss free bus by 200 yards By Stewart Payn
      Autor: Gość: Mika IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
      Data: 06.05.2005 19:12 + dodaj do ulubionych wątków

      skasujcie post

      + odpowiedz

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      Pupils miss free bus by 200 yards
      By Stewart Payne

      (Filed: 10/10/2003)

      An education authority has told parents that their children no longer qualify
      for free travel after officials measured the distance from their homes and
      discovered the school's back gate was 200 yards closer than the front gate.



      The school was previously calculated to be just beyond a three-mile limit,
      enabling parents living at Titchfield Park, Hants, to qualify for free bus
      passes for their children.

      Hampshire County Council sent officers to confirm the distance. They
      discovered that, if the children used the back gate, it was just under the
      three-mile statutory limit.

      Parents have now been told they must pay £400 a year to continue using the
      bus service or else the pupils must walk or be driven to reach Henry Court
      Community School, Fareham.

      The decision has outraged the 17 families of the 22 children who have been
      using the service. They say their children now have to walk across fields or
      alongside busy roads.

      Joyce Reilly, a nurse whose son Stuart, 13, is affected by the ruling,
      said: "We will try to pool our resources and help each other out. But it is
      going to be impossible for some to get to work on time."

      Andy Barncastle, manager of the council's passenger transport operations,
      said: "The three-mile limit is part of legislation and has to fall somewhere

    • Gość: rodion Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.imperiumnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:40
      jako że zostałem zignorowany powtórze:
      czy to ma sens?

      They
      discovered
      that, as the children used the back gate, it was just under the three-mile
      statutory limit.
      ?
      • Gość: Doda Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 19:52
        a tam macie problemy
        ja dalam although the children used the back gate ale mi to wisi
        za to jest tylko pol punkta
    • Gość: Natka Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.walbrzych.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 20:22
      www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/10/nbus10.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/10/ixhome.html&secureRefr

      travel.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7445,1057746,00.html?77%3A+Travel+news
      • Gość: ewka Re: hadn't czy wouldn't??? IP: *.chello.pl 06.05.05, 20:32
        Z Guardiana:)

        Body suffers symptoms of age with too little sleep

        Sarah Boseley, Health Correspondent
        Friday October 22, 1999
        The Guardian

        Sacrificing sleep to longer working hours and nights on the town could bring
        about changes in the body similar to ageing, according to new medical research.
        A study of the effects on the body of the sort of sleep-debt that is
        increasingly common at the end of the 20th century has had startling results.
        Although the study was small - 11 young men aged between 18 and 27 took part -
        it found "striking alterations" in the way their bodies functioned, according
        to a report in this week's Lancet medical journal.

        The Chicago-based scientists found that successive nights of four hours' sleep
        took its toll on the metabolism and endocrine (hormonal) functioning of the
        body. These alterations "mimic some of the hallmarks of ageing". The scientists
        suggest that chronic sleep loss could increase the severity of age-related
        diseases such as diabetes and high blood pressure.

        They also suggest that young, healthy adults may need more than the standard
        night's sleep. Their volunteers biologically performed better when they had
        slept for more than eight hours.

        Karine Spiegel and colleagues from the department of medicine of the university
        of Chicago write that it has become common for people to cut back on their
        sleep. What is considered normal average sleep duration has decreased from
        about nine hours a night in 1910 to about 7.5 hours now. Many shift workers
        sleep an average of five hours a night on working days. Margaret Thatcher was
        famous for firing on all cylinders after only five hours sleep a night.

        It is generally held that sleeping less does you no harm, they say, as long as
        you get the core four to five hours of non-REM (non-rapid eye movement) sleep.
        There has been an assumption that sleep is intended to repair and refresh the
        brain and no studies have previously looked specifically at the effect sleep-
        deprivation has on the body.

        The 11 young men slept eight hours a night for three nights, then four hours
        for six nights and then spent 12 hours a night in bed for a further week to
        recover from the sleep debt. The six nights of little sleep had a noticeable
        effect on their bodies.

        "Less than one week of sleep curtailment in healthy young people is associated
        with striking alterations in metabolic and endocrine function," they say. Sleep
        debt "could have long-term adverse effects on health". Basic metabolic
        functions, such as processing and storing carbohydrates and regulating hormone
        secretion, were affected.

        Eve Van Cauter, who led the study, said: "We suspect that chronic sleep loss
        may not only hasten the onset but could also increase the severity of age-
        related ailments such as diabetes, hypertension high blood pressure, obesity
        and memory loss."

        Tests showed that the volunteers underwent profound alterations of glucose
        metabolism during sleep deprivation, in some cases resembling patients with
        type-2 diabetes. At the peak of sleep loss they took 40% longer than normal to
        regulate their blood sugar levels after a high carbohydrate meal. Their ability
        to secrete and respond to insulin fell by about 30%. A similar decrease in
        acute insulin response is an early warning of diabetes.

        Sleep deprivation altered the production and action of other hormones besides
        insulin, dampening the secretion of thyroid-stimulating hormones and increasing
        blood levels of the stress hormone cortisol, especially in the afternoon and
        evening.

        Raised cortisol levels in the evening are typical of much older people and
        thought to be related to age-related health problems, such as insulin
        resistance and memory impairment.

        All these abnormalities faded away during the recovery period, when the
        volunteers spent 12 hours in bed.

    • Gość: zuza wiecie co mnie drażni? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 21:04
      i to drażni kosmicznie? to jest język, coś żywego, a nie historia, gdzie bitwa
      pod grunwalnem zawsze bedzie w 1410, zawsze jest kilka możliwości poprawnych -
      dzieci drive, dzieci be driven, if dzieci, however dzieci, zależy jak na to
      spojrzeć, a klucz bedzie przewidywał jedną poprawną opcję! i to jest właśnie
      skandal, no.
      • Gość: m Re: wiecie co mnie drażni? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.05.05, 21:14
        no a ja sie tu z Toba nie zgadzam, ale nie chce mi sie polemizowac...hehe :P
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