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Falls Again

18.11.05, 21:53
Bush's Approval Rating Falls Again
"President Bush's positive job rating continues to fall, touching another new
low for his presidency, the latest Harris Interactive poll finds. Bush's
current job approval rating stands at 34%, compared with a positive rating of
88% soon after 9/11, 50% at this time last year, and 40% in August"

Czy to cos mowi tym ktorzy uwazaja ze wszystko jest w jak najlepszym stanie?
Moze ktos napisze tutaj pare slow dla wyjasnienie dlaczego spada i spada na
leb poparcie dla 'foca' skoro on taki wspanialy i robi doskonala robote.
Czyzby ktos cos niedopowiedzial i ludzie nie rozumieja?

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    • felusiak1 Re: Falls Again 18.11.05, 22:26
      At the same time, only a quarter ( 25% ) of Americans polled give Democrats a
      positive rating.
      Jak widac atakujacy Busha demokraci stoja jeszcze nizej.
      • jennifer5 Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 02:33
        felusiak1 napisała:

        > At the same time, only a quarter ( 25% ) of Americans polled give Democrats a
        > positive rating. Jak widac atakujacy Busha demokraci stoja jeszcze nizej.

        I jak to niby ma sie do tego ze Bush spadl juz w kibel i sie nie podniesie. Czy
        demokraci rzadza? Zawsze to powtarzasz ze moga mowic i krzyczec, wladza jest w
        rekach republikanow i ich prezydenta wiec niech krzycza. A jednak boli co?
        Takie nowosci sa jak zadra pod paznokciem felusiak i ty to dobrze wiesz,
        odwrotnie jak Bush ktorego inteligencja jest na poziomie zdechlego kurczaka.
        • felusiak1 Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 04:11
          Czy kurczak zdechl w wyniku grypy czy ze starosci?
          Pytam, bo chcialbym wiedziec na przyszlosc.
          • i.p.freely Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 05:07
            felusiak1 napisała:

            > Czy kurczak zdechl w wyniku grypy czy ze starosci?
            > Pytam, bo chcialbym wiedziec na przyszlosc.

            Tego typu "blyskotki" stracily swoj urok, felusiak. Let me spell it for ya'
            they do not work any more. The magic is gone. The tricksters and their deeds
            have been exposed.
            • felusiak1 Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 05:28
              Who was exposed? What tricksters?
              Nice try unfortunately in a wishful thinking department.
              Blessya.
              • i.p.freely Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 06:01
                felusiak1 napisała:

                > Who was exposed? What tricksters?
                > Nice try unfortunately in a wishful thinking department.
                > Blessya.
                >

                And again expert at slight of hand spoke like a true devotee of "Torture and
                Lie Style", where being misinformed is more than goal. Hell, it looks like for
                some it is a way of life.








                • i.p.freely Re: Crooks and liers 19.11.05, 06:10
                  Then:

                  "We do know, with absolute certainty, that he is using his procurement system
                  to acquire the equipment he needs in order to enrich uranium to build a nuclear
                  weapon."
                  --Cheney, "Meet the Press", September 8, 2002

                  "(It’s) been pretty well confirmed, that he (Atta) did go to Prague and he did
                  meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia
                  last April, several months before the attack."
                  --Cheney, "Meet the Press", December 9, 2001

                  "Saddam Hussein is harboring terrorists and the instruments of terror. He is
                  pressing forward with weapons of mass destruction…. His regime has had high-
                  level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to
                  al Qaeda terrorists. And as the President has said, "Iraq could decide on any
                  given day to provide biological or chemical weapons to a terrorist group or to
                  individual terrorists"
                  • felusiak1 Re: Crooks and liers 19.11.05, 07:49
                    Plujesz dobranymi cytatami. Oszczedz siebie. Moge przytoczyc tone cytatow
                    z drugiej strony. Moge cytowac Clintona do usioru. Plyta jest ta sama, z ta sama
                    muzyka i tymi samymi slowami. Jest rzecza niedorzeczna zarzucanie administracji
                    klamstw chyba, ze gra sie w zupelnie co innego a to sluzy jedynie jako srodek do
                    osiagniecia celu.
                    PS. Rumsfeld mowil o wojnie a ta trwala zaledwie trzy tygodnie.
                    Naprawde namawiam na lekture Joint Resolution to Authorize the use of United
                    States Armed Forces Against Iraq. hnn.us/articles/1282.html
                    ****************************
                    Cale to roztrzasanie nic nie wnosi i jest zwykla polityczna przepychanka.
                    Mamy w Iraku 160 tysiecy wojska i nie mozemy poprostu jutro wyjsc oglaszajac
                    zwyciestwo. Nie mozemy tez oglosic planu wycofania z dokladna data z przyczyn
                    oczywistych. Zamiast zajmowac sie jalowa dyskusja przemysl konsekwencje
                    natychmiastowego wycofania albo wycofania kiedy sily irackie nie sa gotowe
                    do przejecia kontroli nad krajem. Zastanow sie nad konsekwencjami w najblizszej
                    przyszlosci i w dluzszej perspektywie.
                    PS. jesli Bush klamal to Clinton rowniez i wszyscy pozostali z Kerrym i Reidem
                    na czele.
                    Sprawdz kto powiedzial: "We Have To Defend Our Future From These Predators Of
                    The 21st Century. They Feed On The Free Flow Of Information And Technology. They
                    Actually Take Advantage Of The Freer Movement Of People, Information And Ideas.
                    And They Will Be All The More Lethal If We Allow Them To Build Arsenals Of
                    Nuclear, Chemical And Biological Weapons And The Missiles To Deliver Them. We
                    Simply Cannot Allow That To Happen. There Is No More Clear Example Of This
                    Threat Than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His Regime Threatens The Safety Of His
                    People, The Stability Of His Region And The Security Of All The Rest Of Us."
                    • jennifer5 Re: Crooks and liers 19.11.05, 08:29
                      felusiak1 napisała:

                      > Plujesz dobranymi cytatami. Oszczedz siebie. Moge przytoczyc tone cytatow
                      > z drugiej strony. Moge cytowac Clintona do usioru.

                      ty masz 'kompleks Clontona', kup sobie cygaro i sam zapal, tylko tyle ci
                      zostalo, 'na recznym do konca'. I tak nic nie jestes w stanie zrozumiec.
                    • i.p.freely Re: Crooks and liers 19.11.05, 09:22
                      Polityczna przepychanka, no doubt.

                      >> Plujesz dobranymi cytatami.

                      *** You can't say I made them up. It can not be denied they din't say what they
                      said.

                      >Moge cytowac Clintona do usioru. Plyta jest ta sama, z ta sam
                      > a muzyka i tymi samymi slowami.

                      ***I know the game, felusiak. I have been watching how it's played all my life.
                      CONfuse, slime and obfuscate. By the way, what does Clinton have to do
                      with "war" in Iraq? After all WE ARE talking about current residents of the WH,
                      aren't we?

                      > PS. Rumsfeld mowil o wojnie a ta trwala zaledwie trzy tygodnie.

                      **** So what the hell are we still doing there???

                      > Naprawde namawiam na lekture Joint Resolution to Authorize the use of United
                      > States Armed Forces Against Iraq. hnn.us/articles/1282.html

                      *** Aaaaa. But you see when it came to the war agaist Iraq, Congress was
                      DECEIVED, just as the American people were, only what happened with Congress
                      deserves a very close look because it reveals that Congress DID NOT GIVE THE
                      ADMINISTRATION A BLANK-CHECK AUTHORIZATION.

                      When you look at the document you notice 23 unnumbered WHEREAS clauses, which
                      are not uncommon but are a bit excessive in this instance. These clauses are
                      introductory or prefatory statements meaning 'considering that' or 'that being
                      the case'. They are, however, only legalese widow dressing, opinion at best,
                      and not a part of the operative provisions.

                      Legal scholars, which I am not, call these clauses 'precatory' - words of
                      entreaty, desire, wish - and here, hope, with no other meaning. Understanding
                      the nature of these clauses is necessary to appreciate the absurd game Bush
                      played with Congress. These seemly declaratory statements as in this 'joint
                      resolution' became law when approved by both the House and the Senate and
                      signed by the president. How it all came about is a long convoluted story. In
                      short, he lied to Congress to get what he wanted and now he turns around and
                      says "but you have agreed".








                      • i.p.freely Re: felusiak, 19.11.05, 10:04
                        here is another resolution, Murtha's original resolution:

                        RESOLUTION
                        Whereas Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable
                        progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a
                        stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote
                        the emergence of a democratic government";

                        Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U, S. military forces cannot be
                        achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U S.
                        troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft;

                        Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States
                        Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;

                        Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been
                        killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;

                        Whereas U.S. forces have become the target of the insurgency,

                        Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80% of the Iraqi people want U.S.
                        forces out of Iraq;

                        Whereas polls also indicate that 45% of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks
                        on U.S. forces are justified;

                        Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S.
                        military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of
                        America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in
                        Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action;

                        Therefore be it

                        1) Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of
                        America in
                        2) Congress assembled,

                        3) That:

                        4) Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of
                        Congress, is

                        5) hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the
                        earliest practicable

                        6) date.

                        7) Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of
                        U.S Marines

                        8) shall be deployed in the region.

                        9) Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability
                        in Iraq

                        10) through diplomacy.


                        This is not the one GOP wrote.
                        • jennifer5 Re: felusiak, 19.11.05, 16:25
                          i.p.freely napisał:

                          > here is another resolution, Murtha's original resolution:

                          Ty naprawde sadzisz ze trafisz do tego betona? On zyje obok zycia, on nie
                          mysli, jemu pisza co ma myslec.

                          pozd. Jen.
                      • felusiak1 Ostania proba 19.11.05, 22:55
                        ipfreely napisala:
                        > Congress was DECEIVED.
                        ++++++++++
                        Really? No kidding. And may I ask how it was deceived?
                        ======================================================================

                        > By the way, what does Clinton have to do with "war" in Iraq?
                        ++++++++++
                        Nothing. Except the same rethoric he used years before Bush.
                        So, if Bush lied what did Clinton do? He lied as well.
                        Don't throw the stones in the glass house.
          • jennifer5 Re: Falls Again 19.11.05, 21:51
            felusiak1 napisała:

            > Czy kurczak zdechl w wyniku grypy czy ze starosci?
            > Pytam, bo chcialbym wiedziec na przyszlosc.

            ---

            pick one!
    • polski_francuz U nas 19.11.05, 07:40
      tez Jenny. Coraz zimniej. I juz myslalem, ze jak w Kalifornii bedzie u nas
      wieczna wiosna.

      Pozdro

      PF
      • jennifer5 Re: U nas 19.11.05, 08:26
        polski_francuz napisał:

        > tez Jenny. Coraz zimniej. I juz myslalem, ze jak w Kalifornii bedzie u nas
        > wieczna wiosna.
        >
        > Pozdro
        >
        > PF

        Gdyby w Kaliforni byla wieczna wiosna byloby bardzo cudownie. Ale jak to
        mowia 'co ma wisiec nie utonie, chyba ze ktos sznurek zerwie...!

        pozdr. Jen.
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