Australian Jewry's Israel question

[bam_buko]

Australijscy zydzi siedzac bezpiecznie na "koncu" swiata do tej pory
popierali bezkrytycznie poczynania Izraela wspomagajac go solidnie gotowka.
Widzac jednak obled wladz eretz i codzienne mordowanie palestynczykow
zaczynaja pomalu otwierac oczy.

Link nie chce sie otwierac(rejstracja) wiec skopiuje fragment
listu i komentarza gazety(TheAge)..

Dennis Altman and Colin Rubenstein
March 9, 2007

There can never be too much opinion
Take two Jews and you'll get three opinions

New group takes on Jewish lobby
Israel and the Middle East need a debate without vitriol and hatred, writes
Dennis Altman.

THE letter that I and several hundred other Australian Jews have signed is a
carefully worded call for more open debate on the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict. It is directed at both the Jewish community and Australia in
general, and seeks a discussion that is more concerned with achieving peace
and justice than with reinforcing communal solidarity.

It is extraordinary that a statement whose primary assertion could be
endorsed by Condoleezza Rice or the British cabinet should create such a
reaction.

That otherwise rational people can see "a just peace that recognises the
legitimate national aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians" as "paving
the way for a second genocide", a phrase used by one prominent critic, is sad
testimony to the need for this debate.

Colin Rubenstein and the organisations for whom he speaks accept there is
also a right for Palestinians to a state of their own, a position that has
become the basis for almost all international proposals for a solution to the
conflict? Signatories to the letter have different understandings of what
this may involve. We would all agree that Israel's survival is threatened by
denying justice to Palestinians.

This is both a moral and a pragmatic judgement. Five million Jews in Israel
cannot live in an indefinite state of war with several hundred million Arabs.
Peace for Israel means finding a way to remove the deep sense of injustice
among the Palestinians, and recognising that military force breeds more, not
less, extremism and violence

[explicit]

Przekaz im ze nie sa osamotnieni , tylko w zio-grajdolku tylu "napoleonow" ,...

==============================================================================

Among Religious Groups, Jewish Americans Most Strongly Oppose War
=================================================================

An analysis of Gallup Poll data since the beginning of 2005 finds that among
the major religious groups in the United States, Jewish Americans are the
most strongly opposed to the Iraq war. Catholics and Protestants are more or
less divided in their views, while Mormons are the most likely to favor the
war. Those with no religious affiliation also oppose the war, but not to the
same extent that Jewish people do ,...

Brawo

[polski_francuz]

za te poglady.

W Australii mieszkalem w dzielnicy Melbourne East St. Kilda wsrod Zydow. I zylo
mi sie wsrod nich bardzo dobrze. Ostatnia noc przed wyjazdem spedzilem wlasnie
w zydowskim domu i razem z nimi zaczynalem szabat.

I cieszy mnie, ze maja takie "open-minded" poglady.

Pozdro

PF