Po co Chińczycy wysłali człowieka w kosmos

[Gość: Wojtek]

Chiny myślą o przyszłości całej ludzkości, dlatego mają tak
wielkie plany. Przynajmniej przywódcy jednego państwa myślą
perspektywicznie !

[Gość: Ryba]

Gość portalu: Wojtek napisał(a):

> Chiny myślą o przyszłości całej ludzkości, dlatego mają tak
> wielkie plany. Przynajmniej przywódcy jednego państwa myślą
> perspektywicznie !

Myślę, że jesteś głupi. Na pewno Chiny myślą perspektywicznie,
co wynika z ich mentalności i politycznego systemu, ale na
pewno nie myślą o przyszłości całej ludzkości.
Warto zauważyć, że wszelkie wynalazki z Europy i USA dość szybko
rozprzestrzeniają się po świecie, za to w w Chinach bywało i
tak, że za zdradę wynalazku papieru albo herbaty karano
torturami i w końcu śmiercią. To myślenie tam cały czas trwa i
żaden komputer czy gadżet tego nie zmieni. To jest mentalność
której ty nigdy nie zrozumiesz.
Poza tym po co miałyby działać na korzyść ludzkości, skoro
ludzkość ani razu nie wysłała Chińczyka w kosmos na swoich
statkach - to i Chińczycy nie będą się palić do zabierania
ludzkości. Zresztą co Chiny robią dla ludzkości można zobaczyć
nie na księżycu ale w Tybecie i w ogóle w całej historii Chin od
zarania dziejów.
Lepiej zostwić Chiny w spokoju, robić interesy, ale nie wymagać,
aby jedna rakietka kosmiczna sprawiła, że poczują miłość do
całego świata.

A co do pseudozręcznych słowotworów GAzety: skoro w kosmos
poleciał chiński Gagarin, to wtedy Gagarin był rosyjskim panem
Twardowskim... A SHepard już nawet nie wiadomo kim... hehe

[Gość: Tysprowda]

Co prowda to prowda, a co nie to nie. Gwoli scislosci.

Shephard nie polecial w kosmos, polecial tak wysoko, jak USSA bylo stac na to
technologicznie aby nie przegrac z USSR za bardzo walki o serca i umysly rzesz.

Technicznie rzecz biorac, Shephard polecial na orbite ktora nie byla w
kosmosie, a tym bardziej wsrod gwiazd, chociaz propagandowo nazwany zostal
astronauta.

Zaden amerykanski kosmonauta nie byl astronauta, kazdy rosyjski kosmonauta,
wlacznie z polskim, byl kosmonauta.

A Chinski tajkonauta polecial w kosmos i z niego wrocil, nic tego nie zmieni.

[Gość: Tysprowda]

Chinczycy nie chca broni nuklearnej w kosmosie, USSA chca jak najbardziej,
oczywiscie bo miluja pokoj ponad wszystko (Chiny oczywiscie....)

Hans Blix isn't needed in space - yet

China's space mission could trigger a military build-up by Washington

Dan Plesch
Thursday October 16, 2003
The Guardian

China yesterday became the third state on the planet - after the former Soviet
Union and the US - to launch a manned spacecraft. Such a successful
introduction of advanced technology by a developing country might be thought a
cause for international celebration - but that is not how the militarists in
Washington will see it. There, it is likely that the launch will be used as
further evidence of a "China threat", while China's own proposal - for a treaty
banning weapons from space - will be rejected.
The danger is that President Bush will repeat the US reaction to the Soviet
space programme. In the 1950s, when Moscow launched Sputnik, the first
satellite, it triggered a massive military build-up by Washington. It is now US
national strategy to prevent any power from rivalling the US in the way that
the Soviet Union once did. US strategists see China's huge population and
growing economy as providing the state with the potential to challenge America.

The now infamous Project for the New American Century (Pnac) states that for
the US the "focus of strategic competition" has shifted from Europe to east
Asia. In a discussion of potential strategic competitors to the US, President
Bush's national security strategy explains some of the political rational for
fearing China: "... a quarter century after beginning the process of shedding
the worst features of the Communist legacy, China's leaders have not yet made
the next series of fundamental choices about the character of their state. In
pursuing advanced military capabilities that can threaten its neighbours in the
Asia-Pacific region, China is following an outdated path."

The reality of Chinese power is very different to that put forward by the
Washington threat-creation industry. Take the idea of an attack from the
mainland on Taiwan. According to the International Institute for Strategic
Studies, Beijing has just 60 ships in its navy - only twice the number of tiny
Taiwan and a fraction of US strength.

China's real priority is to have enough power to prevent a return to the
humiliations of the colonial era. It is too easy to forget that in the mid-19th
century Britain used gunboats to force China to import opium, and then took
control of China's overseas trade. Other foreign powers joined in and the US
kept a fleet operating in China's rivers up until the second world war, when
they were forced out by the Japanese invasion.

Today, the US has thousands of nuclear weapons and other missiles able to
attack China, while Beijing has little to fire back with. Washington is
determined to keep it that way. One of the Pnac members explained that: "The US
has never accepted a deterrent relationship with China, the way we did with
Russia." To the US military, any space programme it does not control is a
challenge to its formal policy of dominating space militarily.

The likely reply from the Pentagon to the Chinese space programme is an
intensification of the "son of star wars" project, part of which is being built
at Fylingdales in Yorkshire. These missile defences would be able to neutralise
a Chinese deterrent, but are better suited to shooting down satellites
(including manned spacecraft) than incoming missiles - because satellites
follow a predictable path across the sky. It is vital that the British
government is cross-examined over the potential anti-satellite role of the
Fylingdales base.

In contrast to the US quest to dominate, the Chinese have been campaigning for
a UN treaty banning weapons from space. The Chinese draft treaty should be
welcomed. There are few new technical problems in creating a verifiable
inspection regime for a ban on weapons in space. Right now, there are no
weapons above our heads. It is not necessary to put Hans Blix in a space suit
to carry out inspections. There are only a handful of space-launch and missile-
defence sites around the world. Satellites and other space vehicles are tiny,
so it is easy to check if a ray gun is hidden inside.

US behaviour over arms talks gives ample evidence to those dubious of its
peaceful intent. Even President Clinton vetoed UN talks on a space weapons ban.
In the absence of any sensible policy from Washington, the UK and Europe must
engage in direct talks with the Chinese. We cannot afford to sit back and watch
the growing confrontation between the US and China. Britain has a prime
minister who tells us he is seriously concerned about the problem of weapons of
mass destruction. After the Iraq debacle he can restore his credibility in this
area by helping prevent an arms race in space. If the US will not cooperate for
now, then we should act with the EU and Russia, pressuring the US to abandon
its militarist excesses.

· Dan Plesch is senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute

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Ludzkosci jest potrzebna TRZECIA sila !

[Gość: Pinokio]

aby dwa pozostale "mocarstwa" MILITARNE swiatowe nie czuli sie
panami tego swiata.

Czy hitlerek Bush wysle swich pieskow do Chin sprawdzac jak sie
chinczycy zbroja jak to zroil wobec Iraku i domaga sie
wspolczesny imerator z Waszyngtonu.

Nie zapominajcie tez o tym ze w USA 21% ludnosci NIE MA RZADNYCH
ubezpieczen lekarskich, a 18% "bogatych" amerykanow zyje w
KOMPETNYM UBUSTWIE !

Krytykowanie Chin przez takich roznych amerykanskich "ekspertow"
ze na kosmiczne ekspedycje chinczykow nie stac JEST ZWYKLA
AMERYKANSKA OBLUDA zarzadzana przez amerykanskich FALSZYWYCH
zydow !