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New York Times o Jacku Kuroniu

IP: *.d2.club-internet.fr 18.06.04, 01:46
Communist - Era Dissident Jacek Kuron Dies
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: June 17, 2004

Filed at 9:04 a.m. ET

WARSAW, Poland (AP)
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    • Gość: Wlodek Re: New York Times o Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.vf.shawcable.net 18.06.04, 07:15
      Wszystko jedno co pisze NYT
      Liczy sie ze odszedl od nas Czlowiek Wielkiego Formatu.
      Wielki wizjoner i uporczywy niezlomny wojownik z komuna.
      Normalni obywatele uznaja wielkosc postaci.
      Male kundle dalej beda szczekac...
      To naprawde byl KTOS!!!
      • Gość: Ruda Re: New York Times o Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 18.06.04, 12:00
        To był NAJUCZCIWSZY Z NICH WSZYSTKICH CZŁOWIEK, nie rwał się do stanowisk a
        jak kierował ZUS -em tojeszcze ten moloch był dla ludzi a nie jak dziś dla
        URZĘDNIKÓW Powstańmy i Pomilczmy Odszedł UCZCIWY CZŁOWIEK CZEŚĆ JEGO
        PAMIĘCI,Jego jedynego mi żal Już nikt i nigdy (z polityków ) nie wzbudzi we
        mnie żadnego żalu . Zasmucona Ruda
        • Gość: kornik Re: O Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.czes.gazeta.pl 18.06.04, 12:26
          Ruda, jakim ZUS-em kierował? Zastanów się co ty piszesz, bo smarując takie
          bzdury na pewno nie oddajesz należytego hołdu temu wyjątkowemu człowiekowi.
          • Gość: animaAnimal Re: O Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.d2.club-internet.fr 20.06.04, 02:14
            nie obchodzi mnie czy NYtimes pisze, czy nie pisze

            francuskie media rowniez podaly wiadomosc odejscia JACKA KURONIA

            dziwia mnie wpisy, ze co z tego, ze NYTimes podaje takie wiadomosci

            dziwi mnie brak wpisow, ze dzieki Niemu njabardziej poszkodowani i ocaleni
            sie nie wpisuja ( widocznie nie sa z internetem za "pan brat")

            i dziwi mnie imieninowa impreza pana Walesy w obliczu odejscia tak wspanialego
            "ojca chrzestnego bylej 'solidarnosci')

            pan Walesa byl obecny na opuszczonych wpol flagach pogrzebie prezydenta Reagana

            ale nie opuscil swych imieninowych parasoli (Walesa, ten krol i sprawca
            'pomrocznosci niejasnej' i krwotoku ubezlasnowolnienia RzeczyPospolitej°

            wybaczcie, sobie, Wlodkowi i innym to wstyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


            • Gość: Wlodek Re: O Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.vf.shawcable.net 20.06.04, 07:00
              > dziwia mnie wpisy, ze co z tego, ze NYTimes podaje takie wiadomosci
              >

              Co cie dziwi? I czemu? Ladnie z ich strony, ze napisali kawalek ku pamieci.
              Sadzisz, ze czytelnicy NYT, czy innych wiele z tego faktu pojeli?
              Jacek Kuron byl NASZ i my jestesmy Mu wdzieczni pamiec.... To wszystko w " tem
              temacie"

              > dziwi mnie brak wpisow, ze dzieki Niemu njabardziej poszkodowani i ocaleni
              > sie nie wpisuja ( widocznie nie sa z internetem za "pan brat")
              Walesa byl obecny na opuszczonych wpol flagach pogrzebie prezydenta Reagana
              >
              > ale nie opuscil swych imieninowych parasoli (Walesa, ten krol i sprawca
              > 'pomrocznosci niejasnej' i krwotoku ubezlasnowolnienia RzeczyPospolitej°
              >
              > wybaczcie, sobie, Wlodkowi i innym to wstyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              >
              W tym drugima kawalku sam chyba doznales oslnienia i chyba tez cie trafila
              pomrocznosc jasna..... Przeczytaj cos napisal i przetlumacz na nasze....
              Moze sam sie zawstydzisz z jasnosci wlasnych wywodow.
              >
    • Gość: a Walesa sie bawi NYT,orbituary,Jacek Kuron once again IP: *.d2.club-internet.fr 20.06.04, 04:08
      Jacek Kuron, of Solidarity, Dies at 70
      By MICHAEL T. KAUFMAN

      Published: June 18, 2004


      Associated Press, 2003
      Jacek Kuron

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      Jacek Kuron, who inspired and tutored generations of Poles to struggle against
      Communist rule, serving as the ultimately successful godfather of a resistance
      that coalesced around the Solidarity labor union movement, died yesterday in
      Warsaw. He was 70 years old and had been ill for more than a year.

      A spokesman for the Hospital of the Interior Ministry announced his death, The
      Associated Press reported.

      Mr. Kuron's death came under the jurisdiction of the same ministry that had been
      his host for an imprisonment of almost 10 years in the Communist era. At the
      end, however, it was a benevolent ministry in a democratic Poland that cared for
      him as an honored citizen who had helped to bring about Poland's emergence from
      totalitarian rule, a man who went on to serve in Parliament and as labor
      minister, and who also ran for president, winning 10 percent of the vote in 1995.

      Yesterday, his old partners in resistance joined with current political leaders
      in praising Mr. Kuron, who had challenged Communist rulers first as an ardent
      and ideological young party member in the 1950's, and then kept training
      generations of dissidents as an outcast who was continuously hounded and imprisoned.

      ''Without him, the events of August 1980 would have been impossible," said Lech
      Walesa, the leader of Solidarity and democratic Poland's first president,
      referring to the strikes at the Gdansk shipyard and the union's historic victory.

      In the final chapter of his fight against the Communist system, in the 1980's,
      Mr. Kuron gained national prominence and international attention as the senior
      organizer and guiding spirit of KOR, the Committee to Assist Workers, which
      first mobilized support for striking workers in 1976. It soon became a rallying
      point for many of the country's intellectuals, cultural figures and students who
      provided support and resources to the industrial workers, miners and farmers
      then trying to build an independent labor federation.

      He first reached the front pages of the world's major newspapers when the
      shipyard workers struck in Gdansk, but Mr. Kuron had been organizing for some
      such upheaval for years. A man of the secular left, he had earlier met a student
      named Bogdan Borusiewicz and helped him to form a small group of Gdansk workers
      willing to distribute an illegal broadsheet called The Coastal Worker. One
      volunteer was a welder with a thick mustache named Lech Walesa, who as an
      articulate worker in a Poland that called itself "a workers' state'' struck the
      intellectuals as having leadership potential.

      The union rose meteorically in the early 1980's, only to be smashed when martial
      law was declared on Dec 13, 1981. The Polish state and Polish society settled
      into a peculiar cycle in which, over eight years, waves of arrest and repression
      alternated with amnesties and relaxation.

      Mr. Kuron was one of the thousands seized when the country's leader, Gen.
      Wojciech Jaruzelski, ordered tanks to crush the recently legalized union. Two
      and a half years later, in August 1984, he was among the last 11 detainees to be
      freed. Throughout the decade, until Polish Communism finally collapsed, Mr.
      Kuron could be seen at protest marches and demonstrations, often trying to keep
      the peace and always speaking politely to the police in his characteristic raspy
      voice. He always kept his apartment door unlocked in an open invitation to
      anyone who wanted to talk, interview him or drink very strong tea, or who might
      need a place to stay.

      Mr. Kuron was born on March 3, 1934, in Lvov, then a Polish city and now in
      Ukraine, which spells it Lviv. After the war his family moved to Poland, where
      he studied pedagogy. He joined the Communist Party but got into trouble in 1953
      for criticizing the government for its education and youth policies.

      In 1964, together with Karol Modzelewski, a fellow professor at the University
      of Warsaw, he wrote "An Open Letter to Members of the Polish United Workers
      Party.'' In it they condemned the party for elitist practices, making points
      similar to those that the Yugoslav Milovan Djilas had earlier raised in his
      iconoclastic book "The New Class.'' Mr. Kuron was expelled from the party and
      sentenced to three and a half years in prison.

      Before his expulsion he organized a youth group named for General Walter, the
      nom de guerre of a Polish officer, Karol Swierczevski, who fought against the
      Nazis. Many of Mr. Kuron's charges followed him into a life of protest and
      social activism, first in 1968, opposing Russian censorship and the Polish
      government's anti-Semitic purges. Among the scouts was Adam Michnik, the former
      KOR dissident leader and now Poland's most prominent editor.

      Another was Seweryn Blumsztajn, another writer who had followed Mr. Kuron since
      his adolescence. In a remembrance published yesterday he declared: "He was our
      godfather. After the events of 1968 unimaginable things began to take place
      around us. Many played their part but Jacek with his energy, visions and courage
      was the chief demiurge. It was he who succeeded in giving a name to what we
      managed to attain: a self-organizing society.''

      Mr. Kuron is survived by his second wife, Danuta, and his son, Maciej.


    • prawy.pl Re: New York Times o Jacku Kuroniu 21.06.04, 01:26
      prawy.pl/
      • Gość: animaAnimal Re: New York Times o Jacku Kuroniu IP: *.d2.club-internet.fr 21.06.04, 23:32
        odchodzi czlowiek wielkiego formatu

        najbiedniejsi w Polsce, w tym nauczyciele, dzieki Jackowi Kuroniowi oterymali
        emerytury za ktore da sie jeszcze jakos przezyc

        New York Times o tym nie pisze, ale ze polskie media o tym nie wspinaja i to w
        szczegole?

        a, ze najbiedniejsi nie pisza, chyba tylko dlatego, ze nie maja dostepu do netu

        Pozdrawiam Wlodka, Ruda, xx i Kazdego.

        P.S. Emocje, zbyt wielkie... a strata zbyt duza, zwlaszcza, ze Lechu, nie zmknal
        imieninowych parasoli na znak zaloby, lecz dalej swietuje, bedac przekonanym, ze
        byl najlepszym prezydentem nam wspolczesnej Rzeczypospolitej....

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