Strzelanina w London

[mississaugachief]

Czy ktos zna wiecej szczegolow? Mowili w tv, ze ta rodzina to immigranci z
Polski.

[szfedka]

to napewno znowu ten polski hydraulik

[mississaugachief]

Mom, 2 kids slain

Nine-year-old girl escapes ordeal to call police
KELLY PEDRO, Free Press Crime Reporter 2005-06-28 01:56:06

A terrified, barefoot nine-year-old girl frantically knocked on neighbours'
doors to get help for her mother and two siblings held hostage yesterday by a
man inside an east London home.

By the time gunfire subsided at 682 Princess Ave., four people were dead, two
police officers were shot and a city was in shock over the slayings of a woman,
her 13-year-old daughter and five-year-old son.

Police didn't identify the victims yesterday.

But relatives confirmed that Halina Czuba, her 13-year-old daughter, Julia, and
five-year-old son, Michal, died after gunfire erupted at their house just east
of Adelaide Street about 2:30 a.m.

The body of a man also was found inside the home. The province's Special
Investigations Unit said the man, who hasn't been identified, died of a gunshot
wound.

Halina's husband, Jan, is a trucker who was in the United States at the time of
the deadly shooting.

"Jan is just devastated. He's in shock," Dominik Szymanski, a relative who
tutored the children, said yesterday. "They were all bright kids. It's just
unbelievable that this could happen."

What happened inside the house is still a mystery.

"This is a very large tragedy, the details of which will unfold in the days to
come," Const. Jeff Arbing said.

The couple's third child, nine-year-old Joanna Czuba, knocked on at least three
neighbours' houses trying to help her family.

"She knocked on our door, it was a panicked knock," said a neighbour, who
didn't give her name.

When the woman's husband went outside to check who was at the door, he saw
Joanna with neighbours.

The child called 911 at 2:25 a.m. to report someone was beating her mother.

Two minutes later, two police officers approached the front door when a shotgun
blast from inside blew a hole through it, striking one officer in the shoulder
and arm and grazing another officer's face.

The officers returned fire, the SIU said.

It's unclear whether the unidentified man died of a self-inflicted gunshot or
from the exchange with police.

Joanna and the neighbours were still outside when shots were fired and police
ordered them into the neighbour's Elizabeth Street house.

Joanna was petrified but unhurt, the neighbour said.

"I took her in the kitchen, sat her down and rubbed her back," the woman
said. "She saw what (the gunman) was doing to her mom."

Joanna didn't recognize the gunman, the woman said.

Neighbour Ron Harper said he heard a sharp knock on his door about 2:30 a.m.,
but didn't think much of it.

"Then I heard five shots and someone yell, 'I'll kill them all,' " he said.

When Harper looked outside, he saw police hitting the house with a battering
ram.

"The next thing I know, I saw them (the officers) running back with two kids.
They were pretty limp," he said.

"When they put them in the ambulances, the ambulances didn't leave right away
so I don't think they made it."

Dan and Tammy Strom were sleeping when police pounded on their door and used
the location to monitor the brown brick bungalow across the street.

Heavily armed tactical officers told the couple and their two frightened
children to go to the basement and keep their heads down, Dan Strom said.

"It was a little nerve-wracking," he said. "The police were in and out and then
I heard, 'Freeze! London police."

A 13-year veteran and rookie with one year on the force were injured by the
shotgun blast. The constables were taken to hospital and later released.

"They were shaken, but relieved," police Chief Murray Faulkner said of the
officers' families. "This is one of these situations where as a husband, wife
or partner of a police officer, you dread the call."

The SIU was called in to investigate the man's death. London police are
investigating the homicides of the woman and her two children.

Neither the SIU or London police were releasing many details about the four
deaths.

"You have to understand this was not the usual man-with-a-gun call," Faulkner
said. "Police entered because we are sworn to protect life, so that's why the
incident wrapped up quicker than normal."

Police have been to the address before, sources confirmed, but would not say
why.

Dan Strom said his neighbours, the Czubas, were a quiet, friendly Polish family
who didn't speak much English. They had lived at the house for about 15 years.

Besides the shot officers, two tactical officers were treated for smoke
inhalation after a small fire, believed to be arson, broke out.

London police called in counsellors to speak to colleagues of the injured
officers, Faulkner said.

All day a London detective worked alongside an SIU investigator, carefully
documenting the scene. Blood marks could be seen on the front porch. Some
windows of the home were shattered.

Just before 9 a.m., a detective and uniformed officer brought out the family's
pet

[doomsday]

Morderca (zabil Haline Czube i jej dwoje dzieci :Julia 12 , i Michal 5 lat),
okazal sie rowniez kierowca ciezarowek Franciszek Gerda 40 lat .
Poczatkowo uwazano ,ze ofiary zostaly zastrzelone .W czwartek policja podala ,
ze Gerda pozabijal nozem , a sam zginal od kuli policjanta .Jan Czuba ,ojciec
zamordowanych dzieci i maz zamordowanej Haliny znajdowal sie w tym czasie w
pracy w Mississipi ,wrocil po 20 godzinach od tragedii .Czuba z rodzina z
Polski wyjechali w 1987 roku . Przezyla Joanna Czuba , ktora uciekla z domu i
wezwala policje . Pamietajcie o Szostym Przykazaniu Dekalogu .

[spector1]

Wyglada na to,ze interwencja policji byla nieudolna.
Dlatego policja milczy.
Musza teraz popracowac nad spreparowaniem odpowiedniego oswiadczenia,
ktore usprawiedliwiloby ich amatorska akcje.
Zawsze w takich sytuacjach obowiazkiem policji powinno byc bezpieczenstwo
zakladnikow.Zabojca nie zartowal krzyczac: "Zabije ich wszystkich".
Nalezalo grac na zwloke i "negocjowac" a nie wdawac sie w strzelanine.
Kto dowodzil takimi amatorami?
Policja zapomniala, ze to nie Irak, gdzie zakladnikow spisuje sie na straty.

Szczegoly i nowe wiadomosci

[doomsday]

forthesakeofthechildren.blog-city.com/
www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFreePress/News/2005/07/01/1112696-sun.html

Fundusz na rzecz dzieci

[doomsday]

TRUST FUNDS SET UP

- Staff at Blessed Sacrament elementary school in London have set up a trust
fund for the Czuba family at TD Canada Trust. Donations can be made at any TD
Canada Trust, payable to Linda McGuire or Ronald Dingle. The account number is
0053-6304590.

- The St. Stanislaus- St. Casimir's Polish Parishes Credit Union in London has
set up an account for the Czuba and Greda families. The account number is
106651.

[spector1]

Przytoczone artykuly swiadcza o amatorszczyznie dziennikarzy.
Bez zastanowienia powtarzaja bzdury zaslyszane od sasiadow ofiar.
Np ci grafomani pisza, ze mowili oni troszke po angielsku.
Byc moze matka znala slabiej angielski.
Dzieci urodzily sie w Kanadzie, chodzily do szkoly, mialy lepsze warunki
materialne i opieke(matka nie pracowala) niz 99% "inteligetnych" sasiadow,
ktorzy nie reagowali na pukanie zrozpaczonego dziecka.
Czy nie potrafily one mowic po angielsku?
Ojciec jezdzil do USA. Nie znajac angielskiego w jaki sposob przekraczalby
granice, gdzie szczegolnie Amerykanie czepiaja sie po 9/11.
W jaki sposob wypelnialby dokumenty? Etc,etc..
Chyba sasiadow zzerala zawisc.Bo jak moze byc tak, ze immigrant z Polski
ze zlym akcentem splacil $300000 dom po 15 latach i jeszcze kupil
ciezarowke za $100000.Tego ojciec nie powiedzial dziennikarzom.
Takie rzeczy wredni sasiedzi wiedza.Wiedza tez,ze majac wlasna ciezarowke
dostaje sie za kilometr jazdy $1-1,5 co przeklada sie od $4000 - 8000/tydzien.
Wiedza tez, ze na ich telefon przyjedzie straz miejska i wlepi mandat $50
ojcu bo zaparkowal sam ciagnik przed domem a sam byl w domu i przygotowywal
dzieci do podrozy do USA.Straz sama nigdy nie przyjedzie.
Nic dziwnego,ze zamierzal wyprowadzic sie z takiego kolchozu.
Takim sasiadom nie warto nawet mowic Hi.
Potwierdza sie tez nieudolnosc policji.
Spector

[ratpole]

Czlecze, cos ty tu nabelkotal ?
Masz jakies kompleksy ?