"Hype" noch einmall

[solfuga]

z roztargnienia "coś" wcisnąłem i... poszło!
Film o grunge "Hype", taki chyba miał tytuł.
Była w nim żeńska kapela, nazywała się (?) "The Gits".
Będę wdzięczny za wszelkie informacje.
Solfuga.

[tasiorka]

Bola cie palce by poszukac w necie? Prosze bardzo leniu

On its surface, the idea or memory of the Gits carries with it an undertone of
urban darkness and human waste, but the story would be unfairly abbreviated if
the killing of vocalist Mia Zapata exclusively defined the group. That is in
part because the Gits in life and action helped define something themselves, if
not a movement, then a place and time. A very particular brand of punk with a
distinct perspective was emanating out of the American northwest during the
early '90s, and the Gits were instrumental contributors to this new scene.
Perhaps inspired by the honesty and iconoclastic sentiment purveyed by some
early (mostly male) grunge bands, certain female artists and musicians began to
explore new angles and ideals in the sonic and physical expression of their
anger, hope, and existence. Although these riot grrrls as they were often
called, generally got lumped into the grunge category, their music often lacked
the fat '70s retro guitar riffs and mid- to slow-tempo bombast of the more
Black Sabbath-influenced male grunge artists. While many of these groups played
the same clubs in Seattle and surrounding areas, and although they often
expressed similar political (even feminist) ideals in their lyrics, there was a
punk aggression, a palpable and uncompromising commitment that amounted to a
way of life for many of the female groups. Being 75 percent male, the Gits
hardly qualify as a girl group, but Mia Zapata embodied the group in the eyes
of many of their fans. Zapata was an extraordinary example (and ultimately the
unofficial patron saint) of riot grrrl intensity, talent, and humanity.
After coming together in Ohio in 1986, the Gits (Zapata, guitarist Joe Spleen,
drummer Steve Moriarty, and bassist Matt Dresdner) moved to Seattle a few years
later to immerse themselves in the city's burgeoning music scene. It wasn't
very long before the Gits had developed a solid following in their adopted home
and a strong position in the city's underground punk movement. The word spread
as the Gits embarked on successful domestic and international tours in the
early '90s (all without the support of a record label.) In 1992, the debut
Frenching the Bully was independently released, and the reviews were almost
unanimously positive. Zapata's ballistic on-stage persona and aggressive vocals
were almost legendary by this time and it seemed inevitable that the Gits and
Zapata were going to grow out of the regional success they enjoyed and bask in
the national music spotlight.

Before the group could finish their second release, Enter the Conquering
Chicken, Zapata was raped and murdered while on her way home from a Seattle pub
July 7, 1993. This event sensitized many female artists (especially musicians
in Seattle, the West Coast, and all of America) to the paradoxical twists
inherent in their expressions of this new philosophy and lifestyle of
empowerment. Unfortunately, no amount of rage, street smarts, or
outwardly "unfeminine" physicality could dissuade evil men from imposing their
will upon even the strongest women within their own ranks. Living a nightlife,
working as equals with men, sharing and being rewarded for their alternative
ideas about sexual politics and gender roles, it is no doubt that a large group
of young female musicians and artists became emboldened (possibly to a degree
dangerous to their own safety). While emotionally empowering, this riot grrrl
ethos carried no exemption from the physical dangers women have tragically
encountered and endured throughout history. The loss of Zapata was symbolic in
that it reminded many just how far they still had to go before their own gender
would cease to be a weapon, with ultimate potential, that could be used against
their own invaluable personage.

Realizing this, friends of Zapata, including 7 Year Bitch drummer Valerie Agnew
and visual artist Stacey Westcott, founded Home Alive, an organization created
to educate and fund self-defense. Among their efforts, Home Alive released a
CD, The Art of Self Defense, that featured recordings of Zapata, Joan Jett,
Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and many others. The organization has also held benefit
concerts, using all profits to conduct and fund self-defense classes and
seminars. Inspired by Zapata's music (and tragic death) Jett didn't stop with
her contribution to the Home Alive release, she also made a critically
acclaimed music video in which she portrays a stalking victim not unlike Zapata
and in 1996, Jett released a record with the surviving Gits under the moniker
Evil Stig ("Gits live" spelled backwards). The disc featured much Zapata
material, including a duet that had Jett singing along with previously recorded
tracks of the late vocalist.

Besides Enter the Conquering Chicken, two other posthumous releases followed
the demise of the Gits: Kings and Queens, released in 1996, is a live recording
of a 1988 show in Ohio and Seafish Louisville features more live and unreleased
material. Evil Stig proved to be a relatively short-lived affair, and
afterwards, the Gits moved on to other projects. Spleen has worked with Poison
Idea, and Moriarty has played with the Pinkos and Saint Bushman's Choir among
others.

Although there is no doubt about the tragic scope of the Gits and Mia Zapata,
it is comforting to know that the deceased singer's talent and personality
inspired something positive. The result of her death was not just suffering,
but awareness, and at least a call to action. It's not been specifically
documented whether that call has saved any lives, but it's comforting to think
that it is possible. Zapata's energy, charisma, and strength helped create an
identity — an artistic, feminine, urban quintessence, to be cherished and
fought for — that is sadly lacking in so many faceless statistics.

[solfuga]

jezu! przecie to po łangielgsku!
;~) fenx! tasiorka!

[tasiorka]

Anglicy nie gesi i swoj jezyk maja. Trza sie zaczac uczyc:~)

[solfuga]

Ta kapela naprawdę robiła wrażenie. Słuchając grunge z płyt, tak otrzaskały mi się te "komercyjne" kapele (S. N. PJ. et c.), że słysząc, i widząc Gits pomyślałem: Tak to jest to!

Z innej beczki: film "Velvet Goldmine"?

[tasiorka]

solfuga napisał:

> Ta kapela naprawdę robiła wrażenie. Słuchając grunge z płyt, tak otrzaskały
mi
> się te "komercyjne" kapele (S. N. PJ. et c.), że słysząc, i widząc Gits
pomyśla
> łem: Tak to jest to!


Wszystko zrozumialam, ale nie wiem co to jest S.N.PJ.czy mozesz mnie oswiecic?
> Z innej beczki: film "Velvet Goldmine"?

[solfuga]

Sound... Nir... i Pea...J..
Ale przecież nie o to chodzi.
Sound... jest O.K.

[lala-pustostan]

Co to jest Nir? Ja nie rozumiem.

[tasiorka]

lala-pustostan napisała:

> Co to jest Nir? Ja nie rozumiem.

Ja tez, i nie zwalaj na to ze jestem blondynka.

[solfuga]

Sound to... brzmienie.
Nir... to niedończone "nirosta" - nierdzewne.
Pea...J.. to... Peace Jesus. ;~)

prowokujecie mnie?

Kto zna Gits ten chyba zna też "komercyjny" grunge?

[tasiorka]

solfuga napisał:

>
> prowokujecie mnie?
>

Ja na pewno nie. Ale mmilo mi sie z toba koresponduje.

[solfuga]

powinno być -niedokończone- .

[lala-pustostan]

Nie jestem internetowa nimfomanka zebym musiala prowokowac byle kogo kto nawet
nie umie uzyc wyszukiwarki w necie.

[tasiorka]

lala-pustostan napisała:

> Nie jestem internetowa nimfomanka zebym musiala prowokowac byle kogo kto
nawet
> nie umie uzyc wyszukiwarki w necie.

Daj spokoj Magda. Nie spinaj sie za bardzo. To tylko forum.

[tasiorka]

tasiorka napisała:


>
> Daj spokoj Magda. Nie spinaj sie za bardzo. To tylko forum.

Przepraszam. Zapomnialam ze nmialysmy nie wymieniac swoich imion. Sory.

[lala-pustostan]

Wiesz co Anka ze z ciebie swinia jest.

[tasiorka]

lala-pustostan napisała:

> Wiesz co Anka ze z ciebie swinia jest.

Jakos mi sie wypsnelo. sory. ale widze ze juz jestesmy kwita

[solfuga]

Tylko proszę, nie o wyszukiwarkach.

[lala-pustostan]

The Gits
- (86-93) Ohio/Seattle, zpěvačka Mia Zapata (Skupina se rozpadla po vraždě
zpěvačky)

[solfuga]

Dziękuję! czarujące są te ptaszki nad samo- i spół(!)głoskami.

[lala-pustostan]

- .... . / --. .. - ... / -....- / -.--.- ---.. -.... -....- ----. ...

[tasiorka]

Widzisz jak sie poswiecaja dla ciebie kobiety. a ty sie z nas smiales wczoraj.
Ale ja na ciebie nie jestem juz zdenerwowana. Spoko gosc z ciebie,

[lostdog]

Solfuga napisał/a:
"Ta kapela naprawdę robiła wrażenie. Słuchając grunge z płyt, tak otrzaskały mi
się te "komercyjne" kapele (S. N. PJ. et
c.), że słysząc, i widząc Gits pomyślałem: Tak to jest to!"

ekhm, przepraszam bardzo... nie lubię przyklejania etykietek i zabawy w
szufladkowanie, ale niestety UWAŻAM, że pearl jamu nijak nie można wrzucić do
jednego worka z nirvaną czy choćby aic albo soundgarden. tak to już jest... ale
to tylko moje zdanie - jako pj'owiec uważam, że powinienem bronić ich
honoru ;D! a poza tym, co z tego że the gits to "niekomercyjny grunge"? każdy
by się sprzedał, gdyby miał okazję (no, może oprócz mudhoney ...
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actionnetwork.org/campaign/hungerstrike

"komercyjne" kapele

[solfuga]

Kajam się! ;~) Zwrot "komercyjne" nie był szufladkowaniem, a tylko skrótem myślowym. Stąd też cudzysłów. Również nie chciałbym, by ktoś pakował do jednego worka np. Soundgarden i Nirvanę, lub też Pearl Jam. Bo jedne kapele bardziej lubimy, a inne mniej.
Łączę wyrazy szacunku. Solfuga