Chce pracowac dla UE, jestem architektem

[Gość: Piotr]

Witam, tak jak w tytule. Jestem architektem ale jakoś nie idzie mi ta rola, mysle że jestem stworzony do innej pracy. Chciałbym pracowac bardziej bezpośrednio dla ludzi, społeczności, kultury. Od niedawna zaczołem sie interesować pracą dla struktur unijnych. Czy mógłby mi ktoś doradzić jakie kateorie (czy wogóle są takowe)byłyby odpowiednie dla projektanta/architekta/artysty z zainteresowaniami społecznymi i kulturowymi? Przeglądając strony : europa.eu/epso/discover/careers/looking_for/index_pl.htm
widze ze głównie poszukiwani są prawnicy, ekonomiści, tłumacze i weterynarze. Będe wdzięczny za pomoc.
Pozdrawiam,

[Gość: czlekzzelaza]

raz na kilka lat cos z tej dziedziny moze byc .......

[marekggg]

jest to oczywiscie mozliwe, choc chyba pod jednym warunkiem - trzeba
znac francuzki - bo jest naprzyklad OIB ktore wlasnie sie zajmuje w
jakims stopniu projektowaniem.

[Gość: to daj namiar]

na te francuzki...

[jolantamu]

@marekggg mógłbys napisac cos wiecej o tym OIB? Francuskiego nieznam, znam angielski.

[Gość: baruebar]

Jej, wpisujesz OIB w google i pierwsza rzecz ci wychodzi...

[Gość: todopiero]

i nawet po angielsku .......

[Gość: Piotr]

wiadomo ze moge wpisac w google wszystko co przyjdzie mi do głowy, kazde pytanie i cokolwiek innego, ale w takim razie poco rozmowa na forum? przeciez chodzi tu o własne spostrzeżenia, poglądy itd.

[byly_eurokrata]

Piotr, nie mam osobistego doswiadczenia, ale odpowiem tak: OIB to dzial Komisji zajmujacy sie "maintenance" budynkow, czyli ich utrzymaniem a nie projektowaniem. Rzeczywiscie jakos pare miesiecy temu bylo jakies stanowisko, ale z tego co pamietam bardziej skierowane dla inzyniera budowlanego niz dla architekta. Poza tym ze wzgledu na specyfike pracy (kontakty z miejscowymi firmami budowlanymi, uslogodawcami itd.) oraz w ogole ze wgzledu na wewnetrzne "tradycje" w tej sluzbie, tam po prostu trzeba znac francuski, bo inaczej zginiesz.

W twoim przypadku ew. wiekszy sens mialoby startowanie w tzw. konkursie EPA (European Public Administration), gdzie nie trzeba byc ani prawnikiem ani ekonomista, tylko trzeba miec skonoczone studia wyzsze. Gdybys zdal, moglbys sie ewentualnie zajmowac jakimimis programami pomocowymi ds. urbanizacji, rozwoju terenow rolniczych (cos mi sie tak ciemno przypomina, ze Unia stara sie uatrakcyjnic tereny rolnicze, by ludnosc wiejska nie uciekala do miast z braku perspektyw, ale nie pamietam, jak to zwierze sie nazywa). Cos by sie tam pewnie znalazlo na styku architkury i polityki socjalnej, ALE konkurs EPA jest juz w toku, wiec go przegpapiles.

[Gość: nastepny]

w marcu przyszlego roku zapewne...

[Gość: anbxl]

Ja znam jedna polska architekte,ktora po wielu latach pracy w
zawodzie za oceanem chyba od 3 pracuje w OIB.Mysle,ze nie ma wielu
mozliwosci pracy w tym zawodzie w instytucjach.Jak byly napisal
wiecej mozliwosci masz po zdanym egzaminie EPA

[Gość: Piotr]

Dzieki za podzielenie sie wiedzą, w zamian prezent dla was: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfSYeXPQaQI&playnext_from=TL&videos=13cSZzn46Qo

faktycznie zaczne sie uczyć francuskiego

[Gość: Do Piotra]

Pozostalo ci prosic o kontrakt "intérimaire" - "agency staff" w innym kontekcie
w Brukseli.
Agency staff in Brussels
From 1 January 2008 the Commission's use of agency staff in Brussels is governed
by the Framework Contract, that introduced a number of changes:
* the compulsory break after 6 months of service is reduced from 3 months to
1 month
* the former categories (B, C and D) are replaced by function groups (levels
III, II and I) by analogy with contract staff
* the level of pay is amended and adapted to the pay of the staff being replaced
* an annual index-linking of the salary, corresponding to the salary
adjustment for officials, with effect from 1 February of the year following the
reference year.
* The Commission has to apply to the selected agencies in order of priority
using a cascade system.
What are the agency staff's groups of function ?
Agency staff are divided into three levels corresponding to the jobs they do.
* Level III: staff responsible for complex tasks (drafting, proofreading,
accountancy or technical work)
o Minimum level of education: post-secondary education diploma or
secondary education diploma giving access to post-secondary education and three
years' relevant professional experience. Ability to work in a multilingual and
multicultural environment.
o Jobs: assistant, nurse, accountant, laboratory technician, IT
specialist, computer programmer
* Level II: experienced worker/secretary responsible for office work
o Minimum level of education: post-secondary education diploma or
secondary education diploma giving access to post-secondary education and three
years' relevant professional experience. The secondary education diploma giving
access to post-secondary education may be replaced by a certificate of adequate
professional training of not less than three years on condition that there was
no similar professional training giving access to post-secondary education at
the time it was issued. Ability to work in a multilingual and multicultural
environment.
o Jobs: secretary, assistant accountant, data encoder, clerical
officer,switchboard operator,conference technician
* Level I: staff responsible for messenger services or simple sorting
o Minimum level of education: successful completion of compulsory
education. Ability to work in a multilingual and multicultural environment.
o Jobs: messenger, driver
How can I join the agency staff?
In order to be able to work for the Commission as an agency staff member in
Brussels (in the directorates-general or other services of the European
Commission, in the offices attached to the Commission such as the Office for the
Administration and Payment of Individual Entitlements (PMO), the Office for
Infrastructure and Logistics - Brussels (OIB), and the European Personnel
Selection Office (EPSO)) you must register with at least one of the employment
agencies having a contract with the Commission..
The Framework Contract came into force on 1 January 2008 and provides for a
cascade system using two contractors selected in the following order:
1. START PEOPLE (formerly Creyfs interim)
2. UNIQUE
Please note that TEMPO-TEAM has decided to terminate its contract with the
Commission, taking effect on 1st March 2009. This implies that you can not
register to this employment agency.

When it has to place an order the Commission will start by applying to the first
contractor. If this contractor cannot fulfil the request, the managing
departments will contact the second contractor.
When you register the employment agency will require you to:
* take a test. You will be exempt from the test if you have passed a test at
one of the employment agencies serving the Commission in the past five years or
if you have passed an EPSO test or finished as Blue Book trainee, contract agent
or SNE less than six months before the start of the contract as agency staff;
* produce a work permit if required under the current legislation of the
Member State concerned (for more details refer to FAQ);
* to produce a certificate of good character ("extrait du casier judiciaire
vierge" or equivalent for other EU countries).
The addresses of the employment agencies and instructions for registering are
given below:
1. START PEOPLE
Address : Rue Montoyer - 1000 Brussels
Tel. : [phone].
Fax : [phone].
Registration form
E-mail address for sending registration form : [e-mail]
Online registration :
www.surveybuilder.be/startpeople/formulier_eu.htm
2. UNIQUE
Branch: Unique Avenue de Tervuren 3bis, 1040 Brussels
Contact person : Naoual El Mamoun
Tel. : [phone]
Fax : [phone]
E-mail : [e-mail]
You can also register on the following website :
www.unique.be/fr/1329/default.aspx
How long can I work on the agency staff?
You can work for between half a day and six months. You can only be assigned to
the Commission again if you have had a break of at least one month between
assignments, after a six-month assignment maximum.
In addition, any periods you work on the agency staff will count towards the
Commission's six-year general rule, whereby a person is in principle only
allowed to perform tasks or services for the Commission (the European
Commission's directorates-general and other services, offices attached to the
European Commission such as PMO, OIB, OIL, OPOCE and the European Personnel
Selection Office) for a maximum of six years in a twelve-year period. This
applies to all types of non-permanent staff (auxiliary, contract, temporary and
agency staff, service providers, detached national experts) and all places of
employment, as set out in Commission decision C(2004) 1597 of 28 April 2004 on
the maximum duration for the recourse to non-permanent staff in the Commission
services.
This six-year rule does not apply to the Executive Agencies.
How much does an agency staff member get paid? haut
The pay is fixed by type of job on the basis of an hourly rate.
The gross hourly rate given below includes holiday pay and the end-of-year bonus.
Level and type of job Gross hourly rate (from 1st of February 2010)
Level III: assistant, nurse, accountant, laboratory technician, IT specialist
and computer programmer 19,70 euros
Level II: secretary/typist, assistant accountant, data encoder, clerical
officer, switchboard operator, conference technician 16,62 euros
Level I: messenger and driver 11,51 euros
The hourly rate is indexed on the basis of the salary adjustment for officials
decided by the Council of the European Union at the end of every year. The pay
of agency staff is adjusted every February.
On 23 December 2009, the Council approved a 1.85% salary increase for Community
civil servants. This resulted in an equivalent pay increase for agency staff
working at the Commission with effect from 1 February 2010.
This adjustment is incorporated into the above figures.
What are the working conditions for agency staff? haut
The agency staff continues to be employed by the employment agency while they
provide services to the Commission. An assignment to the Commission as a member
of the agency staff will not lead to an employment relationship with the Commission.
The employment agencies will apply to their staff the provisions of the
employment and social security legislation in force in the Member State in
question. The use of agency staff in Belgium is regulated by the Act of 24 July
1987 (Moniteur belge/Belgisch Staatsblad, 20.08.1987, p. 1290
Agency staff are subject to a 3-day trial period for each new assignment and for
each assignment following a break of at l

[john_shepherd]

do "do Piotra" wielkie dzięki, to naprawdę użyteczna informacja, zapewne nie tylko dla Piotra,

[Gość: anbxl]

tylko,ze obecnie ten interim ma tylu kandydatow w swojej bazie
danych,ze nowych nie chce zapisywac nawet na ich wewnetrzne
egzaminy.Jeszcze pare miesiecy temu ex-stazysci mogli bez problemu
zapisac sie jako kandydaci-interimaire,a obecnie nie chca nawet
zapisywac bylych AC

[Gość: Piotr]

dzięki, jakoś postaram sie te wszystkie informacje przeanalizować