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      • roomattic Re: .............>|?|<.............. 21.06.04, 23:40
        Virgos like instruction manuals. They'll try anything if it's explained in
        clear, easy-to- understand steps. Take the instructions away and they often
        panic. They always read the handbook first, and this makes them terrifyingly
        competent in almost any sphere of life they choose to explore. Unfortunately
        there aren't any instruction manuals for how to deal with love and passion
        (although there are lots that pretend to be). It's not surprising that so many
        Virgos are terrified of what they perceive as the dangerous lunacy of falling
        in love.

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        • Gość: .... >||< IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 12.07.04, 13:48
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blish

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          Pythagoras of Samos is often described as the first pure mathematician. He is
          an extremely important figure in the development of mathematics yet we know
          relatively little about his mathematical achievements. Unlike many later Greek
          mathematicians, where at least we have some of the books which they wrote, we
          have nothing of Pythagoras's writings. The society which he led, half religious
          and half scientific, followed a code of secrecy which certainly means that
          today Pythagoras is a mysterious figure.

          We do have details of Pythagoras's life from early biographies which use
          important original sources yet are written by authors who attribute divine
          powers to him, and whose aim was to present him as a god-like figure. What we
          present below is an attempt to collect together the most reliable sources to
          reconstruct an account of Pythagoras's life. There is fairly good agreement on
          the main events of his life but most of the dates are disputed with different
          scholars giving dates which differ by 20 years. Some historians treat all this
          information as merely legends but, even if the reader treats it in this way,
          being such an early record it is of historical importance.

          Pythagoras's father was Mnesarchus ([12] and [13]), while his mother was
          Pythais [8] and she was a native of Samos. Mnesarchus was a merchant who came
          from Tyre, and there is a story ([12] and [13]) that he brought corn to Samos
          at a time of famine and was granted citizenship of Samos as a mark of
          gratitude. As a child Pythagoras spent his early years in Samos but travelled
          widely with his father. There are accounts of Mnesarchus returning to Tyre with
          Pythagoras and that he was taught there by the Chaldaeans and the learned men
          of Syria. It seems that he also visited Italy with his father.

          Little is known of Pythagoras's childhood. All accounts of his physical
          appearance are likely to be fictitious except the description of a striking
          birthmark which Pythagoras had on his thigh. It is probable that he had two
          brothers although some sources say that he had three. Certainly he was well
          educated, learning to play the lyre, learning poetry and to recite Homer. There
          were, among his teachers, three philosophers who were to influence Pythagoras
          while he was a young man. One of the most important was Pherekydes who many
          describe as the teacher of Pythagoras.

          The other two philosophers who were to influence Pythagoras, and to introduce
          him to mathematical ideas, were Thales and his pupil Anaximander who both lived
          on Miletus. In [8] it is said that Pythagoras visited Thales in Miletus when he
          was between 18 and 20 years old. By this time Thales was an old man and,
          although he created a strong impression on Pythagoras, he probably did not
          teach him a great deal. However he did contribute to Pythagoras's interest in
          mathematics and astronomy, and advised him to travel to Egypt to learn more of
          these subjects. Thales's pupil, Anaximander, lectured on Miletus and Pythagoras
          attended these lectures. Anaximander certainly was interested in geometry and
          cosmology and many of his ideas would influence Pythagoras's own views.

          In about 535 BC Pythagoras went to Egypt. This happened a few years after the
          tyrant Polycrates seized control of the city of Samos. There is some evidence
          to suggest that Pythagoras and Polycrates were friendly at first and it is
          claimed [5] that Pythagoras went to Egypt with a letter of introduction written
          by Polycrates. In fact Polycrates had an alliance with Egypt and there were
          therefore strong links between Samos and Egypt at this time. The accounts of
          Pythagoras's time in Egypt suggest that he visited many of the temples and took
          part in many discussions with the priests. According to Porphyry ([12] and
          [13]) Pythagoras was refused admission to all the temples except the one at
          Diospolis where he was accepted into the priesthood after completing the rites
          necessary for admission.

          It is not difficult to relate many of Pythagoras's beliefs, ones he would later
          impose on the society that he set up in Italy, to the customs that he came
          across in Egypt. For example the secrecy of the Egyptian priests, their refusal
          to eat beans, their refusal to wear even cloths made from animal skins, and
          their striving for purity were all customs that Pythagoras would later adopt.
          Porphyry in [12] and [13] says that Pythagoras learnt geometry from the
          Egyptians but it is likely that he was already acquainted with geometry,
          certainly after teachings from Thales and Anaximander.

          In 525 BC Cambyses II, the king of Persia, invaded Egypt. Polycrates abandoned
          his alliance with Egypt and sent 40 ships to join the Persian fleet against the
          Egyptians. After Cambyses had won the Battle of Pelusium in the Nile Delta and
          had captured Heliopolis and Memphis, Egyptian resistance collapsed. Pythagoras
          was taken prisoner and taken to Babylon. Iamblichus writes that Pythagoras (see
          [8]):-

          ... was transported by the followers of Cambyses as a prisoner of war. Whilst
          he was there he gladly associated with the Magoi ... and was instructed in
          their sacred rites and learnt about a very mystical worship of the gods. He
          also reached the acme of perfection in arithmetic and music and the other
          mathematical sciences taught by the Babylonians...

          In about 520 BC Pythagoras left Babylon and returned to Samos. Polycrates had
          been killed in about 522 BC and Cambyses died in the summer of 522 BC, either
          by committing suicide or as the result of an accident. The deaths of these
          rulers may have been a factor in Pythagoras's return to Samos but it is nowhere
          explained how Pythagoras obtained his freedom. Darius of Persia had taken
          control of Samos after Polycrates' death and he would have controlled the
          island on Pythagoras's return. This conflicts with the accounts of Porphyry and
          Diogenes Laertius who state that Polycrates was still in control of Samos when
          Pythagoras returned there.

          Pythagoras made a journey to Crete shortly after his return to Samos to study
          the system of laws there. Back in Samos he founded a school which was called
          the semicircle. Iamblichus [8] writes in the third century AD that:-

          ... he formed a school in the city [of Samos], the 'semicircle' of Pythagoras,
          which is known by that name even today, in which the Samians hold political
          meetings. They do this because they think one should discuss questions about
          goodness, justice and expediency in this place which was founded by the man who
          made all these subjects his business. Outside the city he made a cave the
          private site of his own philosophical teaching, spending most of the night and
          daytime there and doing research into the uses of mathematics...

          Pythagoras left Samos and went to southern Italy in about 518 BC (some say much
          earlier). Iamblichus [8] gives some reasons for him leaving. First he comments
          on the Samian response to his teaching methods:-

          ... he tried to use his symbolic method of teaching which was similar in all
          respects to the lessons he had learnt in Egypt. The Samians were not very keen
          on this method and treated him in a rude and improper manner.

          This was, according to Iamblichus, used in part as an excuse for Pythagoras to
          leave Samos:-

          ... Pythagoras was dragged into all sorts of diplomatic missions by his fellow
          citizens and forced to participate in public affairs. ... He knew that all the
          philosophers before him had ended their days on foreign soil so he decided to
          escape all political responsibility, alleging as his excuse, according to some
          sources, the contempt the Samians had for his teaching method.

          Pythagoras founded a philosophical and religious school in Croton (now Crotone,
          • feelozophy Re: >|Make love not war|< 14.07.04, 03:42
            The third, actually two very short novels, Black Easter and The Day after
            Judgement, were written using the assumption that the ritual magic for
            summoning demons as described in grimoires actually worked. In the first book,
            a wealthy arms manufacturer comes to a black magician with a strange request:
            he wishes to release all the demons from hell for one night to see what might
            happen. The book mainly consists of a lengthy description of the summoning
            ritual, and the grotesque figures of the demons as they appear. The book ends
            with Baphomet announcing to the participants that the demons can not be
            compelled to return to hell: the War is over, and God is dead. The Day After
            Judgment shows the characters from the first book, and the realisation that God
            may not be dead, as something appears to be restraining the actions of the
            demons upon Earth.
            ...

            Sanderson Beck was born March 5, 1947 in Los Angeles. He earned a B.A. in
            Dramatic Art from the University of California at Berkeley, an M.A. in
            Religious Studies from U.C. Santa Barbara, Ph.D. candidacy in the Philosophy of
            Education from U.C.L.A., and a Ph.D. in Philosophy from the World University.
            He was a Conscientious Objector during the Vietnam War. In 1982 he formulated
            World Peace Movement Principles, Purposes, and Methods, and in 1987 he traveled
            to 47 states and met with 600 peace groups to promote peace and disarmament. He
            has been arrested many times for nonviolently protesting nuclear weapons and
            military intervention and in 1989 was imprisoned for six months. Sanderson has
            taught Philosophy and many other subjects at the World University since 1976.
            On September 1, 2001 World Peace Communications was incorporated as a nonprofit
            organization for educational, literary, and charitable purposes. Sanderson's
            versions of the Wisdom Classics have been published as the WISDOM BIBLE, and
            the first volume of his HISTORY OF ETHICS was published as Ancient Wisdom and
            Folly and the second volume as Age of Belief. Sanderson recently published the
            Nonviolent Action Handbook and GUIDES TO PEACE AND JUSTICE. He became an
            official candidate for President of the United States in December 2002, and in
            May 2003 he endorsed Dennis Kucinich.

            ...

            Introduction to Boethius
            www.san.beck.org/Boethius1.html

            ...The lifetime goal of Boethius was to translate the complete works of
            Aristotle and all the dialogs of Plato, showing by his commentaries that the
            two could be harmonized, because they agree at philosophically decisive points.
            He did translate into Latin Porphyry's introduction to Aristotle's Categories
            and all of Aristotle's works on logic, which later had a great influence on the
            history of medieval philosophy, these being the most available works of
            Aristotle or Plato in Latin. He also translated from Greek into Latin the
            geometry of Euclid, the music of Pythagoras, the arithmetic of Nicomachus, the
            mechanics of Archimedes, and the astronomy of Ptolemy. He could explain a sun-
            dial and a water-clock.

            In 510 Boethius became consul under the Ostrogoth Theodoric who had become king
            of Italy. Although Theodoric was an Arian Christian, Boethius wrote Theological
            Tractates on the trinity attempting to explain with logic the unity of God as
            substance and the three divine persons in terms of relation, and to describe
            the Christ as both human and divine by defining substance, relation, and nature.

            About 520 Theodoric appointed Boethius the master of the offices, heading all
            the government and court services. In 522 Boethius reached the height of his
            fortune as his two sons became consuls together....

            A 35-year schism between Rome and Constantinople had been resolved in 519, and
            apparently Theodoric was fearful of the Eastern emperor. The senator Albinus
            was accused of having written a letter to Emperor Justin, and Boethius openly
            came to his defense. Boethius was charged with treason and also with practicing
            magic or sacrilege.

            In political life Boethius had often stood up for justice at his own risk. He
            and Saint Epiphanius had persuaded Theodoric to remit by two-thirds the tax his
            nephew Odoacer had imposed on the farmers of Campania. The eloquence of
            Boethius had rescued Paulinus from the intriguers in the palace. He had
            criticized the Goths Conigastus and Trigulla, and he had sided with the culture
            of the larger Roman empire against the Gothicizing circle of Cyprian. Now
            the "honorable" Basilius and Opilio were saying that Boethius had treasonous
            designs.

            Boethius was locked up in Pavia three hundred miles from Rome while a sentence
            was passed against him and confirmed by the Senate, probably under pressure
            from Theodoric. While Boethius was in captivity and deprived of the use of his
            library, he wrote THE CONSOLATION OF PHILOSOPHY.. In 524 a strong cord was tied
            so tightly around his head that his eyes bulged out; then he was beaten with a
            club until he died. Shortly after that his father-in-law, the senator
            Symmachus, was taken from Rome to Ravenna and also executed.

            The historian Procopius wrote how Theodoric was stricken with guilt soon after
            this when the head of a large fish was served him, reminding him of the head of
            Symmachus. Terrified he caught a chill, which piles of blankets could not
            smother. He lamented the wrongs he had done against Symmachus and Boethius and
            died in 526.

            THE CONSOLATION OF PHILOSOPHY became one of the most popular books throughout
            the middle ages. It was translated into Old, Middle and Elizabethan English by
            Alfred the Great, Chaucer, and Queen Elizabeth respectively.

            The Pi and Theta represent the first letters of Greek words describing
            philosophy from the practical to the theoretical. The Eleatic school of
            philosophy was founded by Parmenides a little before Socrates and emphasized
            the unity of being. The Academics were those who studied at the Academy founded
            by Plato. The Epicureans followed the philosophy of Epicurus (341-270 BC) which
            believed in maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain. The Stoics included Zeno
            of Citium, Epictetus, and Marcus Aurelius. Anaxagoras was condemned for impiety
            and exiled from Athens about 450 BC. Socrates was executed by the Athenians in
            399 BC. Zeno of Elea was tortured for challenging the tyranny of Nearchus about
            440 BC. Canius was executed by Caligula in 40 CE. Seneca was forced to commit
            suicide by Nero in 65 CE, and Soranus was condemned to death by Nero in 66.
    • patience Telus syjonista 19.07.04, 14:02
      Re: PUBLIC RELATIONS
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      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 02.01.2004 01:26
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      Europa jest cala winna antysemizmowi.Byl i jest tam od wiekow.Probowano
      "oczyscic" swoje kraje zapominajac ze Zydow wywiezli Rzymianie po calym Imperium
      rzymskim i zabroniono im wracac do swojej ojczyzny.Kosciol Katolicki stal sie od
      poczatku ich zacieklym wrogiem i jest do dzisiaj. Pan Bog moze nierychliwy ale
      sprawiedliwy :probowano wytepic Zydow we wszelki mozliwy sposob: palac,mordujac
      ,urzadzajac pogromy,zwalajac winne za wszelkie mozliwe nieszczescia/obecnie
      tendencja wsrod rodakow/ i co dokonano??? Wlasciwie nic.Zydzi dalej sa, maja
      swoj kraj,jezyk,religie i kulture a co z milymi i "oswieconymi" narodami? Pan
      Bog zsyla im wielka nagrode: Islam wsrod ich "wyzszej" kultury, poza tym masy
      Arabow,Turkow,Czeczencow,Chinczykow,Hisndusow Afrykanczykow i jeszcze inne
      rasy,religie ...Z pewnoscia beda miec "czysta rase" za jakies 10-20 lat.Moze
      jeszcze sie doczekamy jak wnuki mordercow z Oswiecimia,hypokrytow z Paryza
      ,zabojcow ze Szwajcari i Jedwabnego itd.beda pod rzadami Arabow.To bedzie /na
      pewno/ perfekt sprawiedliwosc! Powodzenia!
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=9934683&a=9939664

      Re: fredzio,dana33 i antysemityzm...
      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 05.01.2004 06:32

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      Bardzo wyraznie widac wzrost ogolnoswiatowego antysemizmu.No bo przeciez trzeba
      na kogos zwalic cale niezadowolenie, prawda? Polacy nie sa ani lepsi,ani gorsi
      od innych narodowosci.Wymyslaja od zarania dziejow nieslychane glupoty i
      oskarzaja Zydow np.jak zabijanie dzieci na wypiek macy .Oczywiscie ciemnocie nie
      przyszlo do glowy ze Zydzi maja zabronione jedzenie jakiejkolwiek krwi.Drobny
      szczegol ,prawda? Trzeba miec jakiegos kozla ofiarnego . Bedzie jeszcze wieksza
      nienawisc do Zydow w najblizszej przyszlosci ,z pewnoscia.Historia sie powtarza.
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=9969875&a=9985432


      Re: Izraelczycy zgładzili szefa Brygad Męczennikó
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      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 28.06.2004 01:55
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      "Kto mieczem wojuje ten od miecza ginie".....
      Bravo Izrael !!!Shalom to you all.
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=13773301&a=13781093


      Re: I co zostało z Kościoła katolickiego?
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      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 13.07.2004 06:20
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      Moze jestes "owieczka" ale prowadzona przez wilki w owczych skorach. Pozatym nie
      znasz w ogole Bibli.Pan Jezus nogdy nie wspomnial KK -to sam kosciol ma do tego
      pretensje.Przeczytaj sobie ,bidoku ,ciemny katoliku.Poza tym stan twego umysly
      jest niepewny-majaczenia o "silach" miedzynarodowych,Zydach,ciemnych
      organizacjach czychajacych na biedna ,cudowna Polske... Pachnie schizofrenia...
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=14129448&a=14137004


      Re: A zaczęło się jeszcze w Egipcie i Persji
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      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 14.07.2004 05:47
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      Zaczelo sie od zarania dziejow.Najpierw byla religia -idea jednego Boga i
      pierwsze zasady higieny-to bylo sola w oku dla wszystkich. Co do zdolnosci
      narodu Zydowskiego to nie musimy jej udowodniac,zawsze wywolywala mnostwo
      zazdrosci jak ich przywiazanie do religii i konsekwentne trzymanie sie jej zasad
      obojetnie w jakim kraju .Przypominam ze, Zydow wygonili Rzymianie z ich ziemi i
      zabronili powrotu .Zydzi dzieki swoich zdolnosci zawsze przetrwali.Ile
      cywilizacji zginelo -a Zydzi sa i beda. To narod wyjatkowy czy komus sie podoba
      czy nie.W naszym niestabilnym swiecie gdzie upadaja wszelkie wartosci na pewno
      wzrosnie nienawisc do Zydow .Swiat musi miec kozla ofiarnego aby wytlumaczyc
      czyms swoja nieudolnosc ,wojny itd.. Arobowie musza miec jakies wytlumaczenie i
      usprawiedliwienie dlaczego niszcza stopniowo Zachod.Przypomina to troche
      usprawiedliwienie sie Hitlera jak zaatakowal Czechoslowacje.Ludzie naiwni
      oczywiscie zgadzaja sie z ta propaganda. To tak jakby slepy prowadzil kulawego
      -az w dol wpadna .Francja zasluzyla sobie na swoj los.Tak szybciutko
      oczyszczala
      swoj kraj z Zydow w czasie wojny sw. bo chciala "czystej" rasy to maja teraz
      lepsza rase -ta odplaci za wszystko . Niedlugo Francuzi beda z lezka w oku
      wspominac dawne czasy. Wszyscy Zydzi z Francji powinni wyemigrowac do Izraela,
      tylko dla swojego dobra.Maja swoj kraj i powinni tam mieszkac.
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=14155510&a=14164448

      19 lipiec 2004 13:35:20
      Re: Świetny pomysł
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      Autor: Gość: cat IP: *.bchsia.telus.net
      Data: 19.07.2004 09:11
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      Sharon ma calkowita racje. Zydzi z Francji powinni wyjechac do Izraela
      zabierajac wszystkie pieniadze ,pozbyc sie posiadlosci francuzkich i uzyc swoje
      wyksztalcenie i zdolnosci do budowy swojego panstwa. Jezeli tego nie zrobia
      beda coraz bardziej przesladowani.Podobna sytuacja byla przed II wojna. Tez
      byli Zydzi nawolujacy do opuszczenia Niemiec i innych krajow Europy.Jednak
      wielu to sie nie podobalo bo bylo im bardzo wygodnie .Jak przyszla wojna nawet
      ci co chcieli nie mogli uciec. Francja i tak zostanie niedlugo opanowana przez
      Arabow,juz wlasciwie jest bo wladze sa powiazani finansowo z krajami arabskimi
      a takze osobiscie .Najlepszy przyklad Chirac. I rowniez jesli sa jacys jeszcze
      Zydzi w Polsce powinni rowniez wyjechac. Polska to kraj pod panowaniem Rzymu a
      on byl zawsze antysemicki .Wypowiedzi tutaj wiekszosci rodakow nie pozostawiaja
      co do tego najmniejszej watpliwosci.
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=14268910&a=14277888
      • Gość: XtraTerrestial Dendrochronology? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 28.07.04, 19:05
        tree.ltrr.arizona.edu/treerings.html
        www.geol.lu.se/personal/ORE/netsc/Inco.htm
        .....................................................

        (.)

        • patience Targeting Tornado for Real-Time Applications 28.07.04, 22:42
          With the introduction of chronicity to our discussion, we have found the god
          within our fantasy--Chronos, who has been he who binds us to the physical form,
          he who devours his own children. As the Lord of our local universe, Time
          assures our imprisonment within the Creation, the material Universe. Mystics
          have an inherent yen to escape the bounds of time and space, and seek their
          spiritual home beyond the Abyss.
          As long as we are below the Abyss, our consciousness finds causality problems
          inherent in time travel. These conceptual conundrums prevent the mind from
          entering the realm of the pure archetypes. We perceive only dim reflections of
          their effulgence, but we must "see through" the literal nature of reality, even
          to accomplish this task.
          The mind-boggling problems of time travel violate the causality principle, so
          it becomes paradoxical. The mind, or Ruach, cannot enter these finer realms--
          only the Neschamah or soul can journey there to the Source. When you cross this
          Abyss, you untie the knot between the soul and the mind, leave the province of
          Universal Mind and its three-fold illusion of time-space-matter.
          Mystic practice provides a prescription for soul travel that makes transforming
          a wormhole into a time machine seem like childs-play. The energy for the
          journey comes from your intent and Will, but like any journey to foreign lands,
          it requires extensive preparation. Like the shamans of old, one becomes a
          psychonaut, rather than an astronaut.

          zero-point.tripod.com/cosmictime.html
          pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/time.html
          www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/rtw/rtw_ug/extm.html
          www.meru.org/lightintent/lightin.html
          ....................

          Dzien dobry, Doktorze Fsmile)))))
          • patience Re: Post Scriptum 28.07.04, 22:55
            www.meru.org/ShapeofInfoHTML/ShapeofInfo2002.html
            (:hhihihsmile

            (:.smile
            • patience Re: Hehe 29.07.04, 00:29
              Podpowiedz 1:
              - Co zobaczy kotek jak zwizualizuje swoj ogonek?
              - Tornado.

              smile)))))))))
              • drf Perturbacje na powierzchni Slonca? 30.07.04, 03:05
                www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Pythagoras.html
                Each number had its own personality - masculine or feminine, perfect or
                incomplete, beautiful or ugly. This feeling modern mathematics has deliberately
                eliminated, but we still find overtones of it in fiction and poetry. Ten was
                the very best number: it contained in itself the first four integers - one,
                two, three, and four [1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10] - and these written in dot notation
                formed a perfect triangle.
                ......
                In their ethical practices, the Pythagorean were famous for their mutual
                friendship, unselfishness, and honesty.

                Pythagoras argued that there are three kinds of men, just as there are three
                classes of strangers who come to the Olympic Games. The lowest consists of
                those who come to buy and sell, and next above them are those who come to
                compete. Best of all are those who simply come to look on. Men may be
                classified accordingly as lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of
                gain.

                history.hanover.edu/texts/presoc/pythagor.htm#commentary1
                history.hanover.edu/texts/presoc/pythagor.htm#commentary2
                history.hanover.edu/texts/presoc/pythagor.htm#commentary3
                (.)
          • drf Przestrzen ma 3 wymiary a czasami Pi..:) 30.07.04, 02:31

            Wybacz Patience moja nieobecnosc ale studia mnie wciagnely w samo centrum
            splotow slonecznych....a tam jak wiadomo sa baaaardzo wysokie temperatury...
            cisNieNie tez ooogromne i dlatego trzeba zachowac ziiimna krew i dobre
            chodzenie azeby temu zadaniu podolac...wiec nie dac sie sprasowac do baaardzo
            gestej materii o wysokim ciezarze gatunkowym i tendencji wybuchowych ale raczej
            zeglowac po powierzchi tego ocanu ognia i medytowac nie szukajac kontaktu z
            centrum ...szczerze lekajac sie tej ciaglej reakcji jadrowej...ale w koncu...
            jestem
            drf
            SolarPlexUs

            Kapiel sloneczna dobrze mi zrobila..wink
            prime \'prim\ n [ME, fr. MF, fem. of prin first, L primus; akin to L prior] 1 :
            first in time : ORIGINAL 2 a : having no factor except itself and one <3 is a ~
            number> b : having no common factor except one <12 and 25 are relatively ~> 3
            a : first in rank, authority or significance : PRINCIPAL b : having the highest
            quality or value <~ television time>
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            WIECEJ WODY !!!
            • yourope Mniej wiecej...) 30.07.04, 13:09
              Just as form and colour are used as means by some, who (whether by art or
              constant practice) imitate and portray many things by their aid, and the voice
              is used by others; so also in the above-mentioned group of arts, the means with
              them as a whole are rhythm, language, and harmony—used, however, either singly
              or in certain combinations. A combination of rhythm and harmony alone is the
              means in flute-playing and lyre-playing, and any other arts there may be of the
              same description, e.g. imitative piping. Rhythm alone, without harmony, is the
              means in the dancer's imitations; for even he, by the RHYTMS of his attitudes,
              may represent men's characters, as well as what they do and suffer. There is
              further an art which imitates by language alone, without harmony, in prose or
              in verse, and if in verse, either in some one or in a plurality of metres. This
              form of imitation is to this day without a name. We have no common name for a
              mime of Sophron or Xenarchus and a Socratic Conversation; and we should still
              be without one even if the imitation in the two instances were in trimeters or
              elegiacs or some other kind of verse—though it is the way with people to tack
              on 'poet' to the name of a metre, and talk of elegiac-poets and epic-poets,
              thinking that they call them poets not by reason of the imitative nature of
              their work, but indiscriminately by reason of the metre they write in.

              Ja jestem w trakcie wycieczki mniej wiecej odwrotnej, w glab zupy
              quantowej. 'Poetry is finer and more philosophical than history; for poetry
              expresses the universal, and history only the particular.' To bardzo ciekawe,
              biorac pod uwage, ze poezja jest imitacjasmile A jeszcze ciekawsze, ze . nie masmile
              Co do chronodendrologii, to przekroj zupelnie roznie wyglada w zaleznosci od
              tego, gdzie sie to drzewo posadzi. Na ogol zupelnie inaczej, hihih. Albo tak: z
              prasowania pi wychodza smieszne brylysmile Dowcip - i trudnosc - polega na
              wyznaczeniu sceny, na ktorej obowiazuje jednosc miejsca, czasu i akcji. A drugi
              dowcip, ze nie da sie zgromadzic..... i z nich zrobic scene. Bo one bez sceny
              nie istniejasmile))))))))))))

              PS. cieszem siem.
    • Gość: ale glupi watek Re: --------------------AQUANET------------------ IP: 83.168.96.* 05.08.04, 19:36
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      • Gość: h2o --------------------AQUANET------------------ IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.08.04, 01:43
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    • zupagrzybowa --------------------Qqnet------------------ 24.08.04, 11:38
      "Sturgess Campion Mitchell"
      Hallo,
      ich habe heute eine "Beglaubigte Zuteilung und Vergabe" von der oben genannten
      Firma kurz SCM bekommen.
      darin steht das ich 21.000 € bekommen würde, wahlweise als einmalige Summe oder
      in 12 Raten a 1750 €.
      Wenn ich meine Zuteilung haben möchte, soll ich das Beiligende "Empfänger-
      Erfassungsformular" ausfüllen und zusammen mit 39,90 € " Akquisitions-Gebühr"
      an die Firma
      Sturgess Campion Mitchell
      Postfach 75632
      1070 AP Amsterdam
      Niederlande
      schicken.
      Kennt jemand diese Firma ???
      Ich werde mich hüten denen Geld zu schicken, aber möchte auch nicht das
      irgendwer auf so eine miese Masche reinfällt.
      Gruß Ingo

      www.aerger-forum.de/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID1
      • Gość: .) LITZMANSTADTGETTO STATE of MIND IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.09.04, 18:22
        ADOLF HITLER STRASSE
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    • drf Łódz 25.08.04, 12:52


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        www.121-on-insurance-quotes.com/boat-insurance.htm
        www.littleredboat.co.uk/009326.php
        • patience Re: 26.08.04, 14:37

          (.?
          • drf strunyJednostkiGrupy 03.09.04, 12:14
            trudno byc jednostką w grupie szczegolnie gdy ta porusza sie jak odrebna
            jednostka ...na przykład biegnie,stoi ustawiona w kolejce,czy ogląda
            przedstawienie teatralne...grupa animowana jest przez Struny i Muzyke z których
            składa się nasz Teatralny Wszechświat...

            wladza grupy nad jednostka i : jednostki nad grupa...wymiar 3
            piramidalny...teoria grup ma-tematycznych? L&ORDERד?
            ?Lodz na druga strone chaosu Arka hArona do kolektywnej podswiadomosci
            Pamieci Naszej Planetarnej
            4litery z dna
            i kolonie na Marsie
            ...................
            www.teachers.ash.org.au/aussieed/tertmathem.htmwink
            • Gość: .... Re: strunyJednostkiGrupy IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 06.09.04, 19:27
              community.webshots.com/album/183511053tRDnJu
              wink
              • Gość: drf .....an ugly crime against humanity IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 10.09.04, 17:29
                New York Times



                School Siege in Russia Sparks Self-Criticism in Arab World

                September 8, 2004

                By JOHN KIFNER


                BEIRUT, Sept 8 - The brutal school siege in Russia, with hundreds of
                children dead and wounded, has sparked an unusual round of
                self-criticism and introspection in the Muslim and Arab world.



                "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists,

                but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all
                terrorists are Muslims," Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, the general manager of
                the widely watched Al-Arabiya satellite television station wrote in one
                of the most striking of these commentaries.



                Writing in the pan-Arab newspaper Al-Sharq al-Awsat, Mr.

                Rashed said it was "shameful and degrading" that not only

                were the Beslan hijackers Muslims, but also the murderers

                of Nepalese workers in Iraq, the attackers of residential towers in
                Riyadh and Khobar, Saudi Arabia, the women believed to have blown up
                two Russian airplanes last week and Osama bin Laden himself.



                "The majority of those who manned the suicide bombings

                against buses, vehicles, schools, houses and buildings, all over the
                world, were Muslim," he wrote. "What a pathetic record. What an
                abominable `achievement.' Does this tell us anything about ourselves,
                our societies and our culture?"



                Mr. Rashed, like several other commentators, singled out

                Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a senior Egyptian cleric living

                in Qatar who broadcasts an influential program on Al

                Jazeera television and who has issued a fatwa, or religious ruling,
                calling for the killing of American and foreign "occupiers" in Iraq,
                military and civilian.



                "Let us contemplate the incident of this religious Sheikh allowing, nay
                even calling for, the murder of civilians," he wrote. "How can we
                believe him when he tells us that Islam is the religion of mercy and
                peace while he is turning it into a religion of blood and slaughter?"



                Mr. Rashed recalled that in the past, leftists and

                nationalists in the Arab world were considered a "menace"

                for their adoption of violence, and the mosque was a

                "haven" of "peace and reconciliation" by contrast.



                "Then came the Neo-Muslims," he said. "An innocent and benevolent
                religion, whose verses prohibit the felling of trees in the absence of
                urgent necessity, that calls murder the most heinous of crimes, that
                says explicitly that if you kill one person you have killed humanity as
                a whole, has been turned into a global message of hate and a universal
                war cry."



                A columnist for the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassa, Faisal al-Qina'I,
                also took aim at Sheikh Qaradawi. "It is saddening," he wrote, "to read
                and hear from those who are supposed to be Muslim clerics, like Yusuf
                al-Qaradawi and others of his kind, that instead of defending true
                Islam they encourage these cruel actions and permit decapitation,
                hostage-taking and murder."



                In Jordan, a group of Muslim religious figures, meeting

                with the religious affairs minister, Ahmed Heleil, issued a statement
                today saying the seizing of the school and subsequent massacre was
                dedicated to distorting the pure image of Islam.



                "This terrorist act contradicts the principles of our true Muslim
                religion and its noble values," the statement said.



                Writing in the Jordanian daily Al-Dustour, a columnist,

                Bater Wardam, noted a propensity in the Arab world to

                "place responsibility for the crimes of Arabic and Muslim terrorist
                organizations on the Mossad, the Zionists and the American
                intelligence, but we all know that this is not the case."



                "They came from our midst," he wrote of those who had

                kidnapped and murdered civilians in Iraq, blown up commuter trains in
                Spain, turned airliners into bombs and shot the children in Ossetia.



                "They are Arabs and Muslims who pray, fast, grow beards,

                demand the wearing of veils and call for the defense of

                Islamic causes. Therefore we must all raise our voices,

                disown them and oppose all these crimes."



                In Beirut, Rami G. Khouri wrote in the Daily Star that

                while most Arabs "identified strongly and willingly" with

                armed Palestinian or Lebanese guerrillas fighting Israeli occupation,
                "all of us today are dehumanized and brutalized by the images of Arabs
                kidnapping and beheading foreign hostages."



                Calling for a global strategy to reduce terror, he traced

                what he called "this ugly trek" in the Arab world to "the home-grown
                sense of indignity, humiliation, denial and degradation that has
                increasingly plagued many of our young men and women."



                A Palestinian columnist, Hassan al-Batal, wrote in the

                official Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Ayyam that the

                "day of horror in the school" should be designated an international day
                for the condemnation of terrorism. "There are no mitigating
                circumstances for the inhuman horror and the height of barbarism" at
                the school, he wrote.



                In Egypt, the semi-official newspaper Al-Ahram called the events "an
                ugly crime against humanity."



                In Saudi Arabia, newspapers tightly controlled by the government -
                which finds itself under attack from Islamic fundamentalists - were
                even more scathing.



                Under the headline "Butchers in the Name of Allah," a

                columnist in the government daily Okaz, Khaled Hamed al-Suleiman, wrote
                that "the propagandists of Jihad succeeded in the span of a few years
                in distorting the image of Islam.



                "They turned today's Islam into something having to do with
                decapitations, the slashing of throats, abducting innocent civilians
                and exploding people. They have fixed the image of Muslims in the eyes
                of the world as barbarians and savages who are not good for anything
                except slaughtering people," he wrote, adding:



                "The time has come for Muslims to be the first to come out against
                those interested in abducting Islam in the same way they abducted
                innocent children. This is the true Jihad these days and this is our
                obligation, as believing Muslims, towards our monotheistic religion."
      • Gość: 7 Łódz / JK IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.09.04, 18:01
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    • Gość: µ ńňęćĺăČ& & #35; 8224;& & #35; 8224;ńňęćĺăČ& & IP: *.strong / 213.186.71.* 10.09.04, 20:55
      • zaufany_chirurg_niny_terentiew & & #35; 8225;& & #35; 8225; PUTIN VLADIMIR & & 10.09.04, 22:41
        • Gość: 101 Liczby pierwsze i ostatnie a takze posrednie IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.09.04, 14:41
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          http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/lists/small/1000.txt
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          wniosek ihve=1473 nie jest liczba pierwsza,alEf-numerycznosc zawodzi...co
          znaczy iz swiadomosc jest STRUKTURA przestrzeni Cantora,szpinOZA?
          CzestoSieChowa?

          http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&q=Kropiwnicki&btnG=Google-s%C3%
          B6kning&meta=

          http://www2.sgh.waw.pl/sgh/ogolnouczelniane/100lat/100lat/Sylwetki/kropiwnicki
          • drf Liczby puste ujemne i nierzeczywiste a nawet uro. 16.09.04, 01:46
            Gość portalu: 101 napisał(a):

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            ) CodeName)))1473=ihve(((Łódż/Kropiwnicki/Piotrkowska104
            )
            ) http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/lists/small/1000.txt
            ) .........................................................
            )
            ) dla przypomnienia 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19
            23
            )
            ) 29
            ) 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67 71
            ) 73 79 83 89 97 101 103 107 109 113
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            ) 179 181 191 193 197 199 211 223 227 229
            ) 233 239 241 251 257 263 269 271 277 281
            ) 283 293 307 311 313 317 331 337 347 349
            ) 353 359 367 373 379 383 389 397 401 409
            ) 419 421 431 433 439 443 449 457 461 463
            ) 467 479 487 491 499 503 509 521 523 541
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            ) 661 673 677 683 691 701 709 719 727 733
            ) 739 743 751 757 761 769 773 787 797 809
            ) 811 821 823 827 829 839 853 857 859 863
            ) 877 881 883 887 907 911 919 929 937 941
            ) 947 953 967 971 977 983 991 997 1009 1013
            ) 1019 1021 1031 1033 1039 1049 1051 1061 1063 1069
            ) 1087 1091 1093 1097 1103 1109 1117 1123 1129 1151
            ) 1153 1163 1171 1181 1187 1193 1201 1213 1217 1223
            ) 1229 1231 1237 1249 1259 1277 1279 1283 1289 1291
            ) 1297 1301 1303 1307 1319 1321 1327 1361 1367 1373
            ) 1381 1399 1409 1423 1427 1429 1433 1439 1447 1451
            ) 1453 1459 1471 1481 1483 1487 1489 1493 1499 1511
            ) 1523 1531 1543 1549 1553 1559 1567 1571 1579 1583
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            ) 1663 1667 1669 1693 1697 1699 1709 1721 1723 1733
            ) 1741 1747 1753 1759 1777 1783 1787 1789 1801 1811
            ) 1823 1831 1847 1861 1867 1871 1873 1877 1879 1889
            ) 1901 1907 1913 1931 1933 1949 1951 1973 1979 1987
            ) 1993 1997 1999 2003 2011 2017 2027 2029 2039 2053
            ) 2063 2069 2081 2083 2087 2089 2099 2111 2113 2129
            ) 2131 2137 2141 2143 2153 2161 2179 2203 2207 2213
            ) 2221 2237 2239 2243 2251 2267 2269 2273 2281 2287
            ) 2293 2297 2309 2311 2333 2339 2341 2347 2351 2357
            ) 2371 2377 2381 2383 2389 2393 2399 2411 2417 2423
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            ) 2539 2543 2549 2551 2557 2579 2591 2593 2609 2617
            ) 2621 2633 2647 2657 2659 2663 2671 2677 2683 2687
            ) 2689 2693 2699 2707 2711 2713 2719 2729 2731 2741
            ) 2749 2753 2767 2777 2789 2791 2797 2801 2803 2819
            ) 2833 2837 2843 2851 2857 2861 2879 2887 2897 2903
            ) 2909 2917 2927 2939 2953 2957 2963 2969 2971 2999
            ) 3001 3011 3019 3023 3037 3041 3049 3061 3067 3079
            ) 3083 3089 3109 3119 3121 3137 3163 3167 3169 3181
            ) 3187 3191 3203 3209 3217 3221 3229 3251 3253 3257
            ) 3259 3271 3299 3301 3307 3313 3319 3323 3329 3331
            ) 3343 3347 3359 3361 3371 3373 3389 3391 3407 3413
            ) 3433 3449 3457 3461 3463 3467 3469 3491 3499 3511
            ) 3517 3527 3529 3533 3539 3541 3547 3557 3559 3571
            ) 3581 3583 3593 3607 3613 3617 3623 3631 3637 3643
            ) 3659 3671 3673 3677 3691 3697 3701 3709 3719 3727
            ) 3733 3739 3761 3767 3769 3779 3793 3797 3803 3821
            ) 3823 3833 3847 3851 3853 3863 3877 3881 3889 3907
            ) 3911 3917 3919 3923 3929 3931 3943 3947 3967 3989
            ) 4001 4003 4007 4013 4019 4021 4027 4049 4051 4057
            ) 4073 4079 4091 4093 4099 4111 4127 4129 4133 4139
            ) 4153 4157 4159 4177 4201 4211 4217 4219 4229 4231
            ) 4241 4243 4253 4259 4261 4271 4273 4283 4289 4297
            ) 4327 4337 4339 4349 4357 4363 4373 4391 4397 4409
            ) 4421 4423 4441 4447 4451 4457 4463 4481 4483 4493
            ) 4507 4513 4517 4519 4523 4547 4549 4561 4567 4583
            ) 4591 4597 4603 4621 4637 4639 4643 4649 4651 4657
            ) 4663 4673 4679 4691 4703 4721 4723 4729 4733 4751
            ) 4759 4783 4787 4789 4793 4799 4801 4813 4817 4831
            ) 4861 4871 4877 4889 4903 4909 4919 4931 4933 4937
            ) 4943 4951 4957 4967 4969 4973 4987 4993 4999 5003
            ) 5009 5011 5021 5023 5039 5051 5059 5077 5081 5087
            ) 5099 5101 5107 5113 5119 5147 5153 5167 5171 5179
            ) 5189 5197 5209 5227 5231 5233 5237 5261 5273 5279
            ) 5281 5297 5303 5309 5323 5333 5347 5351 5381 5387
            ) 5393 5399 5407 5413 5417 5419 5431 5437 5441 5443
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            ) 5527 5531 5557 5563 5569 5573 5581 5591 5623 5639
            ) 5641 5647 5651 5653 5657 5659 5669 5683 5689 5693
            ) 5701 5711 5717 5737 5741 5743 5749 5779 5783 5791
            ) 5801 5807 5813 5821 5827 5839 5843 5849 5851 5857
            ) 5861 5867 5869 5879 5881 5897 5903 5923 5927 5939
            ) 5953 5981 5987 6007 6011 6029 6037 6043 6047 6053
            ) 6067 6073 6079 6089 6091 6101 6113 6121 6131 6133
            ) 6143 6151 6163 6173 6197 6199 6203 6211 6217 6221
            ) 6229 6247 6257 6263 6269 6271 6277 6287 6299 6301
            ) 6311 6317 6323 6329 6337 6343 6353 6359 6361 6367
            ) 6373 6379 6389 6397 6421 6427 6449 6451 6469 6473
            ) 6481 6491 6521 6529 6547 6551 6553 6563 6569 6571
            ) 6577 6581 6599 6607 6619 6637 6653 6659 6661 6673
            ) 6679 6689 6691 6701 6703 6709 6719 6733 6737 6761
            ) 6763 6779 6781 6791 6793 6803 6823 6827 6829 6833
            ) 6841 6857 6863 6869 6871 6883 6899 6907 6911 6917
            ) 6947 6949 6959 6961 6967 6971 6977 6983 6991 6997
            ) 7001 7013 7019 7027 7039 7043 7057 7069 7079 7103
            ) 7109 7121 7127 7129 7151 7159 7177 7187 7193 7207
            ) 7211 7213 7219 7229 7237 7243 7247 7253 7283 7297
            ) 7307 7309 7321 7331 7333 7349 7351 7369 7393 7411
            ) 7417 7433 7451 7457 7459 7477 7481 7487 7489 7499
            ) 7507 7517 7523 7529 7537 7541 7547 7549 7559 7561
            ) 7573 7577 7583 7589 7591 7603 7607 7621 7639 7643
            ) 7649 7669 7673 7681 7687 7691 7699 7703 7717 7723
            ) 7727 7741 7753 7757 7759 7789 7793 7817 7823 7829
            ) 7841 7853 7867 7873 7877 787 jone
            • zupagrzybowa JesiennePorannePlanety 16.09.04, 08:24
              science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/09sep_morningplanets.htm?list946445
              GwiażdżistyDzień
              dzisiaj
              widac bo przezroczysto
              falujeElektromagNetycznePole
              BurzaSłoneczna
              science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/19apr_gravitomagnetism.htm
              • Gość: ,,,,,------,,,,, --------.--------- IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 16.09.04, 09:25
                www.radio.com.pl/nauka/naukowe.asp?id=103
                www.centra.apsys.pl/
                www.airpolonia.com/
                • Gość: hihi Re: --------.--------- IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 17.09.04, 13:39
                  noway. to ani chybi jakas zmylka.
                  wink
                  • Gość: -*- -.- IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.09.04, 17:04
                    uhhh noway wink
                    gdzie pLomi3nie cenTrum splotuSlonecznego...?
                    usciski
                    ZenSualne
                    drJD
                    • Gość: hmmm... Re: -,- IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 17.09.04, 18:33
                      Gość portalu: -*- napisał(a):

                      > gdzie pLomi3nie cenTrum splotuSlonecznego...?

                      NoW7.sNie9)ZI(?ToMo)ePyT.Nie!


                      > usciski
                      > ZenSualne

                      usciski
                      ConSenZualne

                      smile(:
                    • Gość: drf Patience IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.09.04, 21:32
                      sms?
                      waterPipeLines:RedSea-DeathSea?
                      www.virtualtourist.com/m/177e5/c45/
                      www.extremescience.com/DeadSea.htm
                      AqUaTiC@TerraIncognita
            • drf aQuantyfikacjaJezykaMin!TeORia 25.10.04, 14:57
              Min0TeORia
              1.IteRRacyjno.iTeracka.TRRPeuTZka.FaZoowa
              2.ZNacZNa69X68piXm3cc.)(.
              3.MiNiSty3znaNaN0
              4.44844ORR7RRu&RepReZENtacji
              5.PItaGO776977ew7ejska
              6.no.C0M.EN.t.Z
              7.KOLOrowa5u81!m!NaLNa
              8.HuMo8883e3888ryStycZna?!
              9.DeMoKra77czNaAnTYareSTOtatalitarNa
              0.NaDaSinuSMc2iRRRRacjoNal000giStycZNa
            • Gość: 5325=SENS 202 5325Y 52Y 52!F7Y CODE5 690Kó) 70V3 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 08:26
              8!The90R!0N
              235 3liczbyP!erwsze 9öDel
              2!3=NIE
              !235=532
              ........
              Variacj3MaT3matHy
              690Kó)
              97084727
              90724638
              wink
              ..........
              3!=6
        • mistatwista 20:17-----NFL!!!!!-------------IPROMISETOGOD!!!!!! 17.09.04, 20:18
          • zupagrzybowa 23:59-----I.PR.OM.IS.ET.O.6OD? 18.09.04, 00:02
            Z3rOstOpniZ3r0CelZiusza?wink))
            • Gość: niezorientowana Re: 23:59-----I.PR.OM.IS.ET.O.6OD? IP: *.aster.pl 18.09.04, 00:28
              O co chodzi w tym forum, wszystkie wpisy nie trzymaja sie kupy?
              • zupagrzybowa 6OD2iNa0:44 18.09.04, 00:44
                a musi byc watek?
            • Gość: Y.S Re: 23:59-----Y0u.PR.OM.IS.ET.O.6OD? IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.09.04, 02:21
              zupagrzybowa napisała:

              > Z3rOstOpniZ3r0CelZiusza?wink))

              Kula z lodówki.
              • Gość: xionZeXienzyca 3:33-----i.PR.OM.IS...verY 600D...! IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 18.09.04, 03:31
                telePorting5765
                ...
                3D.HolyGraphic

                • Gość: 9:33 Re: 3:33-----i.PR.OM.IS...verY 600D...! IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.09.04, 09:43
                  . w lodówce:

                  forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=741459&wv.x=2&a=15887457
                  • Gość: gamma3 pi.prime.di.vision IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.09.04, 13:27
                    Z..N..Z
                    www.dn.se/content/1/c6/32/18/05/misch.jpg
                    www.dn.se/content/1/c6/23/99/55/mars298.jpg
                    marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040916a/site_b28_navcam_360_cyl-B218R1.jpg

                    wink
                    .)
                    • drf pi.the.G& aring;rden.f.maTh and amicable numbers... 19.09.04, 14:13

                      www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Pi_through_the_ages.html
                      2000 places of Pi



                      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                      3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459
                      230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384
                      460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294
                      895493038196442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914
                      564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127372458700660631
                      558817488152092096282925409171536436789259036001133053054882046
                      652138414695194151160943305727036575959195309218611738193261179
                      310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912983
                      367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217986094370277053921
                      717629317675238467481846766940513200056812714526356082778577134
                      275778960917363717872146844090122495343014654958537105079227968
                      925892354201995611212902196086403441815981362977477130996051870
                      72113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469083
                      026425223082533446850352619311881710100031378387528865875332083
                      814206171776691473035982534904287554687311595628638823537875937
                      519577818577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989380952
                      572010654858632788659361533818279682303019520353018529689957736
                      225994138912497217752834791315155748572424541506959508295331168
                      617278558890750983817546374649393192550604009277016711390098488
                      240128583616035637076601047101819429555961989467678374494482553
                      797747268471040475346462080466842590694912933136770289891521047
                      521620569660240580381501935112533824300355876402474964732639141
                      992726042699227967823547816360093417216412199245863150302861829
                      745557067498385054945885869269956909272107975093029553211653449
                      872027559602364806654991198818347977535663698074265425278625518
                      184175746728909777727938000816470600161452491921732172147723501
                      414419735685481613611573525521334757418494684385233239073941433
                      345477624168625189835694855620992192221842725502542568876717904
                      946016534668049886272327917860857843838279679766814541009538837
                      863609506800642251252051173929848960841284886269456042419652850
                      222106611863067442786220391949450471237137869609563643719172874
                      677646575739624138908658326459958133904780275901


                      Note the long run of 9's.

                      www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Prime_numbers.html
                      The mathematicians of Pythagoras's school (500 BC to 300 BC) were interested in
                      numbers for their mystical and numerological properties. They understood the
                      idea of primality and were interested in perfect and amicable numbers.
                      A perfect number is one whose proper divisors sum to the number itself. e.g.
                      The number 6 has proper divisors 1, 2 and 3 and 1 + 2 + 3 = 6, 28 has divisors
                      1, 2, 4, 7 and 14 and 1 + 2 + 4 + 7 + 14 = 28.
                      A pair of amicable numbers is a pair like 220 and 284 such that the proper
                      divisors of one number sum to the other and vice versa.
                      You can see more about these numbers in the History topics article Perfect
                      numbers.

                      ...
                      liczby milosne 1 + 2 + 4 + 7 + 14 = 28.
          • mistatwista NFL UPTE - HR TH RL MSSG 20.09.04, 04:34
            4:31 M AP B 79M7 PMS TH NFL S BGN RT NW. G SE T TH M NT JK. HPM.
            IGWT.
      • drf ========================================== 14.10.04, 22:32

        µ
        • Gość: /\ ==========Tuberculosis========= IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.11.04, 01:07
          GRUŹLICA jest choroba zakazna wywolywana przez bakterie Mycobacterium
          tuberculosis. Wywoluja ja równiez inne mikobakterie przenoszone miedzy innymi
          przez bydlo, jednakze jest to zjawisko rzadkie. Schorzenie to ma charakter
          przewlekly i nawracajacy, moze dotykac kazdego narzadu i tkanki. Najczestsza
          jest jednak gruzlica pluc. Zakazenie glównie dokonuje sie droga kropelkowa,
          czyli wskutek wdychania powietrza wraz z kropelkami zakazonej sliny lub sluzu.
          Pratki moga unosic sie w powietrzu przez kilka godzin. Zwieksza to ryzyko
          zakazenia osób z otoczenia. W Polsce wskaznik zapadalnosci wynosi ponad 40
          chorych na 100 tysiecy ludnosci. Wprowadzone kilkadziesiat lat temu obowiazkowe
          leczenie gruzlicy i przeswietlenia rentgenowskie pluc drastycznie zredukowaly
          czestosc wystepowania choroby. Jednakze ostatnie lata przynosza nowe
          niepomyslne dane wskazujace na wzrost zachorowalnosci. Zwiazany on jest z
          rozwijaniem sie opornosci bakterii na kolejne generacje antybiotyków. Sugeruje
          sie takze wplyw chorób obnizajacych odpornosc, a zwlaszcza AIDS.
          Objawy : Poszczególne stadia gruzlicy sa podobne do tych w kile. Zwykle
          zakazenie pierwotne nie daje zadnych objawów. Przez wiele kolejnych lat
          zakazenie moze miec charakter utajony. Uaktywnienie choroby moze nastapic w
          kazdym momencie oslabienia odpornosci organizmu. Infekcja rozwija sie
          najczesciej w szczytowych partiach pluc, dotyczyc moze jednak równiez nerek,
          kosci dlugich, kregów, wezlów chlonnych, opon mózgowo-rdzeniowych i innych
          narzadów. Nieleczona gruzlica prowadzi do zniszczenia tkanki plucnej i smierci.
          Gruzlica pluc w 80% jest uaktywnieniem utajnionej infekcji. Tylko w 20% rozwija
          sie po pierwszym kontakcie z pratkami. Chory moze nie odczuwac zadnych
          dolegliwosci poza ogólnym zmeczeniem, mimo rozwiniecia pelnej gruzlicy.
          Najczesciej jednak wystepuje dlugotrwajacy kaszel, który bywa wiazany z
          paleniem papierosów lub niedawno przebyta infekcja. Poczatkowo wystepuje on
          tylko rano, chory wykrztusza niewielka ilosc zielonej lub zóltej wydzieliny.
          Stopniowo wydzielina jest coraz bardziej obfita, pojawia sie dusznosc, która
          moze byc wynikiem pekniecia pluca lub gromadzenia sie wysieku w oplucnej.
          Kolejnym etapem jest krwioplucie, w odkaszlanej wydzielinie pojawiaja sie
          skrzepy krwi lub swieza krew. Rozwijajaca sie gruzlica prowadzi do powiklan.
          Gdy ognisko gruzlicy znajdujace sie tuz pod oplucna peka, wtedy powstaje
          gruzlica oplucnej, objawiajaca sie najczesciej w postaci wysieku oplucnej.
          Potocznie zjawisko to nazywane jest „woda w plucach”. Jesli zmiana jest
          rzeczywiscie duza, to moze ona peknac i uszkodzic oskrzele, co doprowadza do
          zapadniecia pluca.
          Zawsze w przypadku podejrzenia gruzlicy pluc, wykonuje sie zdjecie
          rentgenowskie klatki piersiowej. Stwierdzic mozna na nim wieloguzkowe nacieki
          zwykle w górnych partiach pluc. Przeprowadza sie takze badanie plwociny i
          posiew tego materialu. W plwocinie mozna znalezc pratki gruzlicy, jednakze ich
          obecnosc nie jest dowodem na gruzlice. Posiew plwociny na specjalnych podlozach
          mikrobiologicznych wykazuje wzrost pratków po 10 dniach do 6 tygodni. Duza
          pomoc w rozpoznaniu stanowi skórny odczyn tuberkulinowy Mantoux. Podskórnie
          wstrzykuje sie 5 jednostek tuberkulinowego PPD. Zaczerwienienie w miejscu
          wstrzykniecia o srednicy powyzej 10 mm wskazuje na czynna gruzlice.
          W przypadku, gdy chorzy nie wykrztuszaja plwociny, wykonuje sie
          bronchofibroskopie, w której pobiera sie specjalnym endoskopem wydzieline
          oskrzeli.
          Leczenie gruzlicy odbywa sie przy pomocy kombinacji antybiotyków. Trwa ono
          minimum 6-9 miesiecy. Jest ono skuteczne. Stosuje sie rózne kombinacje i
          schematy chemioterapeutyków. Zwykle stosuje sie tylko izoniazyd, gdy choroba
          przebiega bezobjawowo. Wlacza sie inne leki w bardziej skomplikowanych przypadW
          Polsce obowiazkowe sa szczepienia przeciwko gruzlicy szczepionka BCG w
          schemacie: w 1 dobie zycia, 12 miesiacu zycia, 7 roku zycia, 12 roku, 18 roku
          zycia (patrz Kalendarz szczepien - uwagi).kach (ryfampicyne, streptomycyne,
          etambutol, pirazynamid i inne).

          www.wadsworth.org/databank/mycotubr.htm
          www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/communicable_diseases/en/tb.htm
          • Gość: tu mnie masz:) Re: ==========Tuberculosis========= IP: *.acn.waw.pl 11.11.04, 03:01
            a teraz to wjechales na moja ulubiona dziedzine tj. medycyne !
            no to jak mam he he nie odpisac?
            Ło matko boska, rzuc pare tematow medycznych lub psychologiczych a nie zejde z
            Forum smile Jest co prawda tu Forum Zdrowie ale raczej ograniczam sie do jego
            czytania... a i to z rzadka... bo...hi hi kazdy chce internetowych konsultacji
            od forumowiczow. Tyle opinii "medykow " ilu ich jest. I to hm...na bardzo
            srednim poziomie.

            A co do gruzlicy...
            Teraz wieje groza w obwodzie Kaliningradzkim. Gdzies czytalem, ze od poczatku
            2004 zanotowano ponad 3 tys nowych przypadkow.( Na swiecie zakazonych pratkami
            gruzlicy jest 1,7 MLD!!!!! ) A ty wiesz,ze jeden koles ,ktory pratkuje
            statystycznie zaraza okolo 15 osob rocznie?
            Strach jechac autobusem.. Strach tez pic mleko prosto od krowy...
            Z innej beczki gruzlica jest ..... m.in doskonala ( acz niedoceniana?)dio
            przeprowwadzenia ataku terrorystycznego. Pratki sa wrazliwe tylko na niektore
            czynniki. Sa odporne i na dzialanie kwasow i zasad.
            Np. temperatura 60 C zabija pratki dopiero w.... 20 minut.
            Poza tym pratki moga przezyc poza organizmem, jelsi temperatura jest wyzsza niz
            4 stopnie kilkanascie tygodni.
            A np. w minus 70-80 kilka lat, tak wiec przechowywanie pratkow w profesjonalnej
            zamrazarce jest potencjalnie mozliwe....
            A jeszcze z innej beczki...Skoro Michnik przebywa sanatiorium dla gruzlikow (
            jesli nadal przebywa) mozna mowic prawie tylko i wylacznie o gruzlicy
            popierwotnej. To jest takiej, ktora rozwija sie w kilkanascie,kilkadziesiat lat
            po zarazeniu pratkami.A popatrzmy gdzie Michnik przebywal w okresie PRL.
            Duze zgromadzenia, ciasnota w pomieszczeniu, wyniszczenie organizmu, cukrzyca (
            na pewno nie Michnik,zdecydowanie nie jest typem cukrzycowym chciaz palenie
            papierosow sprzyja rozwojowi cukrzycy ), stres,(Michnik) alkoholizm (
            podejrzewam ) niedozywienie, ( zdarzalo sie) nowotwory ( byc moze pluca,krtan -
            nie ) sprzyjaja rozwojowi gruzlicy.
            Wezmy tez statystycznie: zapadalnosc na gruzlice u mezczyzn jest 2 krotnie
            wieksza niz u kobiet.
            ( Ta satystyka tez moze wskazywac na to, ze gruzlica moze byc niezla bronia
            biologiczna, poniewaz dotyka mezczyzn! )

            Kurde ide, bo gotowym trzysta elaboratow medycznych napisac. Ale prosze he he o
            tematy medyczne na aquanecie, jesli znajda sie dyskutanci smile)))))

            A poza tym :
            www.rmf.pl/wiadomosci/?id=75101&loc=1


            • Gość: :}(.){: ==========psychoSoma7yka========= IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.11.04, 10:45
              ciekawe co piszesz..
              ..Adas nie ma lekko , bedzie musial zmienic wiele
              swoich nawykow i generalnie przeprogramowac sie - zmienic Filozo7ie ...

              co
              nie jest latwe ...ale konieczne ...ludzie zaangazowani w zycie wszyskich maja
              trudnosci ze znalezieniem swego wlasnego...


              moze o chodzi o kontrole ? wladze nad soba czy swiatem ?
              /ja nawe7 nie mam kon76oli nad 7an9en7ami moje9o kompa wink

              psychoSoma7yka ?

              jade 7e6az na po97ze8 kole9i co zma7l na zawal se7ca w wieku 49 la7 sad

              memen7o mo6i....

              sciskam

              joeDoe
              • Gość: Psychol Re: ==========psychoSoma7yka========= IP: *.acn.waw.pl 11.11.04, 14:16
                Pewnego wieczoru, wiedziony potrzeba poczytania czegos polazlem do sasiadki,
                ktora wiem,ze posiada jakies ksiazki poza telefoniczna i kucharska.
                Zobaczylem na polce ksiazke, reklamowanej ,polecanej, itd Luise Hay.
                Pozyczylem. ( nie pamietam tylulu )

                Ksiazka traktowala o tym, ze kazda ale to kazda choroba ( lacznie z ranieniem
                sie np. w maly palec u nogi,nowotworem i robaczyca ) jest wynikiem okresownych
                predysozycji i wlasciwosci psychicznych. Oczywsicieco do ranienia w palec mozna
                przewidziec, ze osoby nerwowe, lekliwe, a przez to mniej uwazne i bardziej
                roztargnione beda sie ranily w palec czesciej niz osoby zrownowaznone, spokojne
                i stateczne.
                Ale...gdy przeczytalem,ze robaczyca jest wynikiem "wstydu samego siebie"zawylem
                ze smiechu. A gdy dotarlem do nowotworow, ktore wg autorki tez powstaja na
                gruncie strachu, leku pzred samym soba, potrzba manifestacji mojego ja ...
                zadrzalem.
                Zadrzalem, bo autorka, znajduje sie od dawna na liscie autorow bestsellerow i
                karmi swoimi teoriami niezorientowanych ludzi.
                No sorry robaczyca jest tego przykladem.Przepraszam czy jesli zjem salate z
                jajem glisty ludzkiej, nie dosc dobrze opulkanym w barze salatowym Pizza Hut,
                to ja sie w"wstydze samego siebie" mam "wypierane leki "???
                To preciez jakis bzdet do potegi entej!!!!

                Oczywiscie, ze istnieje mnostwo chorob psychosomatycznych ale do ciezkiej Matki
                Marii, autorka przegiela. Chetnie zapytalbym ja, jakich emocji he he jest
                objawem choroba CJD .... smile Ciekawe co by na poczekaniu wymyslila! smile

                Pozniej napisze o bardzo ciekawych chorobach psychosomatycznych.

                A co do Adama M. Ilekroc dane mi go bylo widziec, nie wypuszczal papierosa z
                ust, ciagle kaslal, i chrypal. ( swoja droga tez pale jak smok.... psiamac i
                bezskutecznie usilowalem rzucic kilka razy )
                A co do kontroli masz racje. Latwiej rzadzic 1000 osob niz soba wlascicwie
                zarzadzac.
                Wspolczuje ci smierci kolegi 3maj sie.











                • Gość: ufffffffff ZMIANA,ZMIANA,ZMIANA IP: *.acn.waw.pl 12.11.04, 03:25
                  tja...
                  bandyta Arafat, bandytą Arafatem.
                  Ale chwilowo mam w nosie terrorystow, politykow, komisje sledcze, i inne tego
                  typu specjaly.Zajme sie tym jak skoncze robic interesy, a ze nie predko skoncze
                  to sie nie predko zajme smile No i terrorystami,politykami, komisjami zajme sie
                  wtedy jak bede miec tyle kasy ile Kulczyk.Albo moze komisje, politycy,
                  terrorysci zajma sie mna jak tyle bede mial ?? Choinka to sie jeszcze
                  zastanowie nad wola posiadania smile
                  Ponadto wole se poczytac, popisac o gruzlicy, chorobach psychosomatycznych,
                  walnac kilka diagnoz lacznie ze swoim przypadkiem, powyglupiac,miec dobry
                  romansik w realu itp itd
                  Skad zmiana ?
                  Dzisiaj wreszcie zdobylem sie na pocztanie sobie archiwalnych postow.W jednym
                  przypadku mnie zatkalo. Czyjas prosba, w zasadzie list gonczy mnie rozwalil.I
                  pewna persona, o ktorej wtedy marzylem by sie dowiedziec, kto to jest i walnac
                  ja w nos juz stala sie i prosta i jasna i calkowicie transparentna
                  < smileczysad ? >
                  Prawda okazala sie okrutna.
                  Dzieki lekturze odkladanej do dzisiaj pewne rzeczy zrozumialem.
                  ide sie zastanowic sie, jak sprawic, by pewne powidzenie Adieu bylo jak
                  najbardziej kulturalne, malo bolesne, a przede wszystkim,zeby pewna wiedza nie
                  zostala wykorzystana w zly sposob.

                  Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich Aquanetowcow smile
                  Specjalne uklony dla Pani, ktora moim komisarzem ewentualnie zostac mogla.
                  Niech sie Drogiej Pani wiedzie we wszytkim, czego sie WacPani dotkniesmile
                  Przesylam Szanownej Pani podziekowania, moc usmiechow,telepatycznie z 30
                  przepisow THE BEST OF SHOW,podziekowania za w sumie dobre rady i za to,ze
                  dokladnie poczytalem za, co moge byc wdzieczny itp itd
                  Spoko juz sie nie odzywam i nie zabieram Pani cennej energiismile
                  A pisze to serio.
                  Amen.
                  • Gość: Jezus...Maria Joj...troubleS ....Meus..... IP: *.acn.waw.pl 16.11.04, 03:05
                    DRF - bardzo wazna inf na privie zaraz doleci.


    • zaufany_chirurg_niny_terentiew { Gauss Law is SO FUCKING KEWL } 19.09.04, 16:57
      • Gość: 900D and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }:{ IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.09.04, 13:47
        hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/imgele/gaulaw.gif
        Vad är en ledare?

        Expressen startades mitt under brinnande världskrig. Det offentliga Sverige
        hukade inför tyskarna. Tidningarna teg. Politikerna gjorde eftergifter.
        Storföretagen gjorde pengar.
        Expressen var en motkraft mot den tidens svassande. Vi teg inte, eftersom vi
        visste hur illa det gick när människovärdet förkrymptes till en bock i en
        papperspärm.

        Den kampen är på intet sätt avslutad.
        Det uppstår alltid nya idéer som kränker individens rätt och värdighet och som
        sätter större värde på staten, kollektivet eller företaget.
        Expressen är en motkraft.
        Vi tycker att den enskilde ska vara fri att söka sitt livs värde och lycka på
        just sitt sätt. Vi skyr idéer som socialism, konservatism och nationalism. Vi
        motarbetar fördomar om givna könsidentiteter och förställningar om etniska
        egenskaper. Vi sätter kulturlivets frihet högt, liksom forskningens och
        ekonomins.
        Expressen är en liberal tidning. Vi ger ut tidningen därför att vi tror på våra
        idéer. Vi vill förändra verkligheten. Ofta syns detta ställningstagande i hela
        tidningen, men tydligast syns det på sidan två ledarsidan. Där tar vi ställning
        i frågor som berör oss och som vi tycker är viktiga.

        www.expressen.se/index.jsp?d=149
        www.google.se/search?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&q=saddam+hussein&meta=
        www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB88/
        PRo9raM
        <O
        .
        .).sh :Ile jest warte życie? , to pytanie równie ważne dla polityków może dla
        matematykow
        a szczególnie dla osób…jeżeli ta osoba jest Sadam Hussein szczególnie…

        .1 Polityk np Michnik nie zna Saddama ale za to zna Wszystkich Wazne Osoby
        na scenie europejskiej i zgodnie z zasadami Okraglego stolu wykorzystac
        ostatnia oferte Sadama : Zycie za Pokoju w Iraku...Szwecja chetnie przyjmie
        Sadamma ktory ma tu wielu przyjaciol ,Joan GuiJoe ma tez Gleboki Fizyczny
        kontakt z Sultanem Bagdadu i kassa tez jest , bo te miliardy naftowe musza
        gdzies sie byc, dlaczego nie w szwecji ? chociaz adasia kasa nie neci,
        pokoj na blizkim wschodzie..?nie wiem co adas mysli aktualnie o stanie rzeczy
        na swiecie bo go nie czytam,za to ostatnio czytam Urbana bo mysli a takze
        spotkal Saddama..ten ma KAPITAL POTENCJALNY
        ...
        OKRAGLY STOL W IRAKU ? KTO BEDZIE WALESA BLIZKIEGO WSCHODU ?

        ..............................................................

        affera w toku
        • drf MADONNA KABALISTYCZNA 21.09.04, 14:21
          Menoryczność- 7gałęziowość 1+2+4
          ................................
          forma 2uch 3kątów w centrum
          Transformacji.przestrzeni Banalnych
          ................................
          Naga dziewczyna w kwiatach...
          • zupagrzybowa NAGA PRAWDA CZESTOCHOWY ... 21.09.04, 15:14
            NUDYSCI ... WSZYSCY ROZEBRANI UCZESTNICY 1ej WWW PIELGRZYMKI DO CZESTOCHOWY
            ZEBRANI tu na JASNEJ GORZE oswiadczamy 27 sierpnia 2004 IZ SPOTKAMY SIE
            ZA ROK DOKLADNIE W TYM SAMYM MIEJSCU


            DUCH SWIETY-WIRTUALrealitySHOW
            sle zyczenia
            Sugestia: Na koniach, Kawaleria Damska ?
            NAGOSC KRZEPI !
        • Gość: antyhabermas Re: and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }: IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 21.09.04, 18:16
          bo okragla?
          -----
          to chyba 2 rozne pytania?
          -----
          cudowny, hihi
          • Gość: CUrioUS Re: and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }: IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 21.09.04, 23:10
            So where is this key to nonothingness?
            • Gość: nanoThingNess Re: and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }: IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.09.04, 23:28
              inside
              M::T
              • Gość: nonarcist Re: and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }: IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 22.09.04, 00:07
                Gość portalu: nanoThingNess napisał(a):

                > inside
                > M::T

                Door:
                M..T ?

                In the search of starting point of affections, we inevitably encounter
                Narcissus, since according to the contemporary psychoanalysis its origins are
                based on the margins of narcism and idealization. As Freud says, it is not
                Eros, but the kingdom of narcism that represents the explosive, and probably
                dominates the physical life. ( This illusionist permanence is being
                rehabilitated, brought back to normal in spheres where the desire is being fed
                on the breasts of my reality…love, and since love creates the ocean-like
                feeling of content narcism, nothing affects more than the deprivation of love).
                (4)

                In order to reach the personal physical space we need emptiness. For the
                contemporary analysis it was discovered as the constituent element of human
                psyche. Therefore the symptom as the mediator of the emptiness is more easily
                transmitted on the sphere of the metaphor that is condensing the phantasms.
                www.miroslav-kraljevic.hr/1/turcic_e.htm


                Politics is good only for the movement of a body.
                What the movement of a body is good for?
                Emptiness is good for the personal physical space.
                What the personal physical space is good for?
                • zupagrzybowa Re: and... }:{ 6aUss LOVE is SO FUCKING 900D ? }: 22.09.04, 00:58
                  The sound that suggests the dripping is a simultaneous and monotonous rhythm of
                  repetition. The quantity of the liquid is being collected, the new drops are
                  falling into bigger and bigger puddles of water, and then everything
                  disappears, to be repeated from the beginning, infinitely. The continuously
                  filling and emptying, drops of water presented through the video projection,
                  awaken a symbol – the tears. When reducing the visible, Ksenija also in her
                  earlier works - installations proportionally increases the notion of the
                  invisible. A symbol is always placed instead of a non-present object or
                  reference, because only the missing thing can be symbolised, therefore formally
                  presented. (1) The place where the drops are created and where they disappear
                  is invisible, as well as their symptom. What is presented is only the
                  mechanism: machina lacrimalis.

                  It is possible (medically) to present a part of the invisible. A teardrop is
                  consisted from 98% water, 0,6% proteins, 1% minerals, especially NaCl ,and
                  antibacterial solution that has vitamins A and C. The ciliary process wets the
                  eyeball, and the tears are taken through various channels, and excreted through
                  the nose. But, when there are too many tears, the liquid cannot be sucked in
                  through the cornea, and is pouring over the eyelid. The excretion is performed
                  under the control of the autonomous nervous system: the sympaticus that
                  regulates the normal secretion, and parasympaticus that regulates psychogenic
                  and reflex secretion. (2)

                  The other part of the invisible, the symptom, the one that effects the
                  parasympaticus, is signalised but hidden. 'The material model is a mere
                  transmitting of the implosion of space…' says A. Maračić (3), 'the
                  possibilities of a sudden insight into the inside of our individual universe.'
                  The material pattern in this installation is also being subjected to reduction,
                  almost to the utter dematerialization ( unless tears are things?). But the same
                  as in previous ambiences there is again the mirror as the royal symbol of the
                  imaginary.

                  ...
                  prizeamerica.aavalue.com/processflow.cfm
                  www.okz.pl/news/modules.php?name=Web_Links&l_op=viewlink&cid=13
                  www.richnature.com/products/herbal/wolfberry.htm
    • Gość: son Re: --------------------AQUANET------------------ IP: 213.8.52.* 21.09.04, 14:55
      רבנים תוקפים את ``העיסוק הפופוליסטי בקבלה``
      הרב יובל שרלו: "גם התקווה ש'מתוך שלא לשמה יבוא לשמה' איננה רלוונטית כאן, משום
      שמי שמתחיל את העיסוק בקבלה לא בחתירה לתיקון עולם ותיקון נפשי אלא בפסטיבל, אין
      סיכוי שיגיע לרמות הגבוהות".
      • zupagrzybowa --------------------FESTIVAL------------------ 21.09.04, 15:24
        פסטיבל dlaczego nie?
        • Gość: ידיש --------------------IS& & #35; 1512;& & #35; 1513;EL-- IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 22.09.04, 00:04
          H=י
          • zupagrzybowa ).( 22.09.04, 01:16
            ש3ד7ע4ר1
            ג2
            ק5
            צ 8
            נ 9
            ל6א0



    • Gość: profanum.officium Re: *******************************************sy IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 22.09.04, 18:00
      <A HREF="http://www.bloodyfingermail.com/message.php?id=625537">deth to fuckin'
      LSD</A>

      hehe
      • Gość: 9()6 HEAVYmetal.......OŁóW? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 23.09.04, 22:20
        members.fortunecity.com/metaljeff/links/band/p.html
        (.)
        • Gość: karenfucker made in Petach Tikva. In did? IP: 5.3.1R* / *.bezeqint.net 23.09.04, 23:19
          moja orthodox sprowadzila sie do miasta z Haifa. Od razu mnie sie spodobala. ma
          17 lat a wtedy to chyba 16. Dlugie czarne wlosy jak to jewish girls. Tak to jest
          podobna do Lary, Croft oczywiscie. I troche do mame Luke Skywalker.

          Ona sie mnie tak spodobala ze ja w nocy o niej myslal i robil to co ten samiec
          masturbantki i kon. I ja sie w koncu przemogl.

          A tate mi powtarzal, zebym ja sie nie zadawac z ta dziewczyna, bo oni orthodox.
          I ja widzial maja peisy i ubrani na czarno a my modern jestesmy i nawet mycki
          nie nosimy. A akurat obok nas zamieszkali i te Karen widzialem kazdego dnia i
          mnie nosilo. Na szczescie nie wychodzila za czesto z domu.

          Ale raz padal desz i ona jakims cudem do sklep poszla bo tam chyba chore byli u
          niej. I ja te Karen hop z domu i odezwal sie i tak to sie zaczelo.

          Potem byl okres ze sobie listy pisali i wkladali pod... to cos do czyszczenia
          buty przed wejscie. A ona mi w skrzynke na listy i ja od razu by rodzice nie
          widzieli.

          Az sie w koncu decydowala i sie jakos spotkali ona byla sama w domu. I wtedy mi
          powiedziala ze nawet nie calowala mezczyzny ani nic. I ze jej rodzina jest
          strasznie staroszkolna, czy jak sie to, mowi. I ze jej nigdy nie pozwola ale jej
          sie bardzo chce i ze ona musi

          I ja Karen troche dotykalem ale ona sie bardzo bala wiec ja jej powiedzial tylko
          ze sama moze sobie dawac przyjemnosc. Bardzo sie zrobila, czerowna i obuzona ale
          potem mi napisala w liscie ze to zaczela robic. Bardzo bylem o nia spragniony.

          Na dwa tygodnie potem znowu byla sama w domu i jak ja przyszedl to juz mi na
          wiecej pozwalala. Dotykalem jej brzuch, i plecy, i podciagnalem jej spodnica ona
          taka dluga czarna welniana nosi. I majtki jak stare kobiety, nawet moja mame
          nosi string. Ale mnie majtki karen bardzo sexual ... no wiesz.

          I jej to na , no bra jej zdjalem, a nie to tydzien pozniej widzialem Karen cala
          naga juz mi pozwalala wszystko tylko te jej majtki zostaweiala sobie, na. A na
          nastepne randezvous kupilem jej string i ona przy mnie zalozyla odwrocila sie
          tyl do mnie i widzialem jej tyl. Piekna jest, mmmmmmmmmm

          A od miesiac to ja normalnie z nia sex robimy, milosc. Ona ma bardzo duza
          potrzeba w tym wzgledzie. Czasem jak sie nie spotykamy to ona to sama robi i
          zaczela jej mame i tate i brat kloci sie z nimi bo ma wystarczajaco takiego
          zycia. Chce inny miec, takie nowe jak ja i jak wiecej mlodzi ludzie u nas w Israel.

          My zazdroscic Europa czy Ameryka ze tam prawie wszyscy sa nowoczesni a nie tak
          jak Zydzi ze czesc jest taka jak rodzina Karen, ale Karen taka nie bedzie.

          Ona teraz robi wszystko bo to lubi, lubi jak ma cumshot czy blowjob (jak to sie
          po polsku nazywa, bo ja sie rodzicow wstydze pytac?). I fajn jest!!
        • Gość: enough e.labor.at.e.ly tort.u.red IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 24.09.04, 03:07
          www.solitairecentral.com/AbsYukon/chinese_torture.html

          www.google.com/search?q=+%22can%27t+understand+why+%22+torture&num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=windows-
          1250&inlang=pl&as_qdr=all&start=450&sa=N

          • Gość: peace.holo9 e.labor.at.e.ly tort.u.red IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 24.09.04, 13:22
            In popular usage, almost any crazy killer is a "psychopath." But in psychiatry,
            it's a very specific mental condition that rarely involves killing, or even
            psychosis. "Psychopaths are not disoriented or out of touch with reality, nor
            do they experience the delusions, hallucinations, or intense subjective
            distress that characterize most other mental disorders," writes Dr. Robert
            Hare, in Without Conscience, the seminal book on the condition. (Hare is also
            one of the psychologists consulted by the FBI about Columbine and by Slate for
            this story*.) "Unlike psychotic individuals, psychopaths are rational and aware
            of what they are doing and why. Their behavior is the result of choice, freely
            exercised." Diagnosing Harris as a psychopath represents neither a legal
            defense, nor a moral excuse. But it illuminates a great deal about the thought
            process that drove him to mass murder.

            Diagnosing him as a psychopath was not a simple matter. Harris opened his
            private journal with the sentence, "I hate the f---ing world." And when the
            media studied Harris, they focused on his hatred—hatred that supposedly led him
            to revenge. It's easy to get lost in the hate, which screamed out relentlessly
            from Harris' Web site:

            "YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? Cuuuuuuuuhntryyyyyyyyyy music!!! . . .

            "YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who say that wrestling is real!! . . .

            "YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who use the same word over and over
            again! . . . Read a f---in book or two, increase your vo-cab-u-lary f*ck*ng
            idiots."

            "YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STUPID PEOPLE!!! Why must so many people be so
            stupid!!? . . . YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? When people mispronounce words! and
            they dont even know it to, like acrosT, or eXspreso, pacific (specific), or 2
            pAck. learn to speak correctly you morons.

            YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STAR WARS FANS!!! GET A FaaaaaaRIGIN LIFE YOU BORING
            GEEEEEKS!

            slate.msn.com/id/2099203
            • Gość: . . IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 25.09.04, 11:40
              Year Zero One is pleased to present the source code for Norman White's
              interactive robotic project, The Helpless Robot.

              The Helpless Robot is an artificial personality that responds to the behavior
              of humans by using its electronic voice which speaks a total of 512 phrases.
              The speech that is delivered depends on its present and past experience
              of "emotions" ranging from boredom, frustration, arrogance, and
              overstimulation.

              Since 1987 The Helpless Robot has been exhibited in numerous galleries both in
              Canada and internationally. By sharing and publishing The Helpless Robot
              script, Norman White invites fellow creative individuals to collaborate on a
              software project aimed at: >> creating more powerful and varied simulations of
              an emotional entity. >> translating the code into Java or another web language,
              so as to create a net-based version of The Helpless Robot. This might involve
              re-writing parts of the existing Delphi code, or starting all over from
              scratch.
              www.year01.com/helpless/

              .

              ARISTODEMUS
              Where are you going, Socrates?
              For I see you're even wearing sandals today.

              SOCRATES
              To Agathon's for a banquet
              celebrating his theater prize.
              I evaded him yesterday because of the crowd,
              but I agreed to come today,
              and so I'm dressed up.
              How do you feel about
              going unasked to the banquet?

              ARISTODEMUS
              I'll do whatever you say.

              SOCRATES
              Come along then.

              ARISTODEMUS
              See that you have an excuse for me,
              as I won't admit going unasked,
              but I'll say I was invited by you.

              SOCRATES
              With two going together,
              the one ahead shall plan what we'll say.
              So let's go.

              Socrates and Aristodemus walk together down the street. After a while Socrates
              becomes absorbed in his thoughts and pauses, waving Aristodemus to go on
              without him. Aristodemus arrives at the door to Agathon's house and knocks,
              nervously expecting Socrates to arrive at any moment. A SERVANT opens the door
              and leads Aristodemus inside to the banquet where he is met by AGATHON.

              AGATHON
              Oh, Aristodemus,
              you're welcome to join the banquet!
              If you came for anything else, put it off.
              Yesterday I went up to invite you
              but couldn't find you.
              But why didn't you bring Socrates with you?

              Aristodemus looks behind him again, still expecting Socrates to come in at any
              moment.

              ARISTODEMUS
              Well, he was just with me
              and should be here soon.
              In fact it was Socrates who invited me to dine.

              AGATHON
              Good of you to come, but where is he?

              ARISTODEMUS
              He was following right behind me,
              but I wonder where he went.

              Agathon commands a servant.

              AGATHON
              Go look for him and bring him in.
              And you, Aristodemus,
              sit down next to Eryximachus.

              ANOTHER SERVANT offers Aristodemus a bowl of water to rinse
              his hands and then a towel to dry them. Then Aristodemus reclines on
              a couch. Meanwhile the first servant returns and reports to Agathon.

              SERVANT
              Socrates is standing on the neighbor's porch,
              but when I asked him to come in, he refused.

              AGATHON
              How strange!
              www.san.beck.org/SOC5-Banquet.html
              • drf N0N7EN7Y? 11.10.04, 10:25

      • zupagrzybowa ACCIDrOCK1985 24.09.04, 00:34
        www.bloodyfingermail.com/message.php?id=625537
        wink

    • zupagrzybowa h2OproGraM 23.09.04, 23:20
      Programming with H2O

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      The Better Way is Here
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      • drf 9LOBAL 24.09.04, 00:54
        Collecting Earth science data is only part of what GLOBE teacher Rafat Jambi
        and his students do together at Hamzah High School, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. On
        June 8th, 2004 they observed the transit of Venus. It began at 5:22 UT (or 8:22
        AM. local time). "By using the eclipser provided by King Abdul Aziz City for
        Science and Technology it was very clear to see it as a dot passing through the
        sun," said Rafat Jambi. Khalid Bin Waleed commented, "I have looked through the
        big telescope at Venus. It is at the middle of the sun. It is like an eye. The
        Sun is white and big and Venus like a black dot in it."

        www.globe.gov/fsl/welcome/welcomeobject.pl?&lang=ru&nav=1
        • Gość: N^Z! 93770 !!! IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 15:38
          GETTO=93770
          7!D7!S7?=WIDZISZ???
          • dajczgewand 93770 L0D7K!3 11.10.04, 16:18
            7Y603SKA 71AUMA
            !D
            • mcattery sa trudniejsze? 11.10.04, 18:18
              oczywscie zaraz zbiore,ze tu wlazlem he he ..
              ale rozwiazanie brzmi :
              Getto łódzkie
              Żydowska Trauma...

              Milego wieczoru.

              www.pajacyk.pl
              • Gość: odpowiedz Re: sa trudniejsze? owszem IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 12.10.04, 22:17
                kto to jest:
                studiuje innych, a w lustrze ma pustke?
                podmiotu od przedmiotu nie odroznia?

                Spieprzaj rzepie.
                • mcattery Re: sa trudniejsze? owszem 12.10.04, 23:03
                  Kto ci dal prawo wywalania kogos z watkow ?
                  Spieprzaj rzepie ? - no wybacz przesadzasz.
                  Zyje w demokratycznym Panstwie, pisze na demokratycznym forum, wiec spieprzaj
                  mozesz mowic,wtedy,gdy ktos wejdzie do twojego prywatnego Forum,albo Twojego
                  mieszkania.
                  Co do studiowania innych, mam rowniez do tego pelne prawo, skoro tak jak wyzej
                  jestem na forum otwartym, dostepnym dla kazdego.Jak kupisz portal Agory wtedy
                  nie bede miec wstepu.
                  A poza tym : sorki czasy komunistyczne sie juz skonczyly, wiec sobie bede pisac
                  gdzie mi sie podoba.

                  Juz kiedys napisalem: nie jestem tu dla Ciebie a dla Siebie.I czy prosilem cie
                  o odp na mojego posta?
                  • Gość: antyrzep Kompleks Raskolnikowa IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 12.10.04, 23:35
                    Hmmm... Wiecej trudnych pytan

                    1. czy zawartosc glowy Raskolnikowa spaskudniala dopiero wtedy, gdy zamachnal
                    sie siekiera, czy tez jej paskudnosc byla przyczyna zamachu?

                    2. Raskolnikov postudiowal staruszke, a czego zaniedbal postudiowac?

                    ====

                    Ze tak powiem. Chcialo mi sie swego czasu, no nie? Tylko ze mi sie wydawalo, ze
                    cos tam robie, a niewykluczone, ze pomagalam Raskolnikovovi opanowac
                    skutecznosc obserwacji staruszek. Zywie gleboka nadzieje ze nikogo nie
                    zamordujesz i ze kiedys w koncu cos z tym Raskolnikovem zrobisz. Przez ostatnie
                    3 lata efekty, jak widacsad A jesli jeszcze nie dotarlo, to inteligencja oraz
                    uroda moze i pomagaja sie ustawic w zyciu, ale niekoniecznie pomagaja zostac
                    homo sapiens.
                    • mcattery Re: Kompleks Raskolnikowa 13.10.04, 00:05
                      Droga Ad Aware smile
                      1.Co do paskudnosci nie bede sie sprzeczac,ze paskudne miewam mysli.Na
                      szczescie mysli.I to od dzieckasmile
                      I na tym sie zazwyczaj konczy.W 99 proc na 100 przyp.

                      2.Raskolnikow postudiowal kilka lat temu Staruszke. Stwierdzil, ze Staruszka
                      jest cool.Ostatnio, wrocil do studiow i stwierdzil,ze Staruszka jest nadal cool
                      ale tez zapomniala postudiowac czegos innego i tyz sie wcale nie zmienila...
                      Dlaczego wrocil ? Raskolnikow to jednak zachowa dla siebie.
                      Raskolnikow tez, tak jak Staruszka, zapomnial postudiowac i tego i owego.
                      Ale Staruszka przesadza.To ona byc moze juz nie lata z maczuga,ale wali maczuga
                      tak na wszelki wypadek,zeby samej nie dostac? Staruszka traci, bo jak walnie,
                      to dany osobnik traci przytomnosc zanim zdazy cokolwiek powiedziec.
                      Co do 3 lat. Myli sie Staruszka,ze sie nic nie zmienilo.
                      Raskolnikow porzucil siekiere,byl na banicji,konsylium sie nad nim
                      zebralo,przezyl jeszcze pozniej z 12 gorszych rzeczy ( nie mowi,ze porzucenie
                      siekiery bylo rzecza zla).Teraz Raskolnikow, ma swoja Sonie,swoj interes i
                      tylko czasem nostalgicznie wspomina... Nie lata po forum z siekiera, nie pisze
                      cudeniek,nie pisze w zasadzie niczego co mogloby urazic Staruszke.
                      A Staruszka sie czuje urazona i nie da nawet 10 minut Raskolnikowowi, by ten
                      mogl przeprosic Staruszke i pokazac jej,ze cos sie zmienilo.
                      Raskolnikow pozdrawia Staruszke, i zapewnia ja, ze wiedza Staruszki sluzy mu
                      wylacznie w dobrych celach.
                      Raskolnikow oswiadcza,ze wejscie do tego watku spoodowane bylo checia
                      sparwdzenia wlasnych mozliwosci intelektualnych.Raskolnikow ucieszyl sie jak
                      dziecko, rozwiazujac zagadke matematyczna...
                      Juz sie odrzepiam.




                      • Gość: no wlasnie Re: Kompleks Raskolnikowa IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 00:22
                        Raskolnikow ucieszyl sie jak
                        > dziecko, rozwiazujac zagadke matematyczna...

                        No wlasnie.
                        A ja od 3 lat wtlukuje Raskolnikowowi w glowe zeby przestal studiowac zagadki i
                        szarady a zabral sie za etyke. I to na powaznie. Zagadki i szarady nic
                        Raskolnikowowi nie daja oprocz naostrzenia siekierki. To ze akurat faza
                        spokojna - nie ma znaczenia. Tytulowy bohater tez nie latal w kolko po ulicach
                        z zadza mordu w oczach. Raz mu tylko zylka pekla... i o jeden raz za duzo.

                        PS. Mowiac o staruszkach bynajmniej nie siebie mialam na mysli. Ja co najwyzej
                        moge byc twoim Komisarzem, jakby co, hihi. I wez sie w koncu do roboty bo mam
                        stanowczo dosyc powtarzania tego samego. Zamiast rozwiazanej szarady, przyjdz z
                        przemyslanym problemem etycznym. To pogadamy bez przepedzania.
                        • mcattery Re: Kompleks Raskolnikowa 13.10.04, 00:40
                          Hoquet = OK
                          fonetycznie.... smile

                          Mam problem etyczno-moralny i to nie maly. Opisze jutro.

                          I dzieki Wysoki Komisarzu.
                          Uklonysmile
                          MC

                          PS. co do latania po ulicach ... tytulowy bohater moze nie, ale jego
                          odpowiednik zaliczyl i te faze...
                  • Gość: 7ea7R Re: sa trudniejsze? owszem.... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 12.10.04, 23:35
                    prosze osoby mcattera i wroclaw o odrobine wyrozumialosci
                    kazdy moze sie tu wypowiadac na dowolny 7ema7...wink))
                    a oco chodzi z lus77ami ? k7o jes7 k!m?
                    7u7aj nie wiadomo...
                    ............................
                    7am moze wiedza

                    w 7ea7Rze AQUALNOSC
                    7O7UM
                    9aze7y wy87ancZej
                    ada3ia m!chn!ka
                    in 7he 7eal 307ld

                    7zepa?
                    • Gość: witaj:) 7ea7R os77ych na77edzi IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 12.10.04, 23:47
                      nie mam wyjscia. to dziecko ma kozika w garsci i musi sie nauczyc go nosic w
                      pochwie, bo w koncu krzywde zrobi albo sobie albo komus. No nie, dziecko? Ono
                      inne narzedzia tez ma, tylko za malo uzywa, bo kozik jest taki latwy i do
                      garsci pasujewink)))
                      • Gość: d77 DOS 100 JEW ski IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 00:34
                        he zapowiada sie ciekawie
                        najos77ejszym!na7zed7iami
                        la7370wymi czy sie7ie70m
                        ale s7udiowal 7azko7nikow
                        s7a7uszke? DOS7OJEWSKI s7udiowal
                        znaczy...DOS 100 JEW ski?
                        wink))
                        • mcattery Re: DOS 100 JEW ski 13.10.04, 00:50
                          jak juz jestesmy przy dostojewskim...
                          DOS 100 JEW ...
                          kiedys chcialem startowac w Wielkiej Grze na jego temat.Oj mlody wtedy bylem.
                          skonczylo sie na znanym innym Teleturnieju - tez za mlodych lat. ( Zeby zgadnac
                          jego nazwe wystarczy przypomniec sobie uklad zerojedynkowy )
                          i poleglem w Finale na najglupszym na swiecie pytaniu i to z dziedziny, na
                          ktorej sie znam niezle czyli z biologii.
                          Cholera nawet wam nie powiem o co chodzilo ,bo sie wstydze.A z reszta.Poszlo o
                          pytanie o ....muche.Otoz oko muchy sklada sie z kilku milionow soczewek dzieki
                          ktorym mucha widzi punktowo, moze obserwowac rozne kierunki.A padlo pytanie:
                          Ile par oczu ma mucha? Ja natychmiast skomplikowalem sobie zycie,policzylem hi
                          hi owe soczewki wypalilem, ze kilka milionow....I prowadzacy sprowadzil mnie na
                          ziemie...
                          Ja duren zamiast podac prosta jak but odpowiedz chcialem podac przyblizona
                          liczbe soczewek...
                          Zamiast Dostojewskiego pytanie o muchach......
                          Coz zyciesmile

                          • Gość: SIEC WODNA? Re: DOS 100 JEW ski IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 01:06
                            do673e...smile
                            wspolczuje p7ze97anej wiel7iej 97y...
                            widocznie nie warto swia7a rozumiec
                            zmieniac a tylko UPROSCIC...
                            czy rzeczy najpostsze sa niewidzialne ?
                            jes7 pan na scenie
                            7ea77u wiel7iej 97y
                            pzejdzie pan do his7o7ii
                            jako 80ha7e7 POWIESCI p7smirkIEC WODNA
                            ...................................
                            Coz zyciesmile

                        • Gość: hahahaha Re: DOS 100 JEW ski IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 00:51
                          > ale s7udiowal 7azko7nikow
                          > s7a7uszke?

                          studiowal.
                          najpierw jenteligencjom
                          potem siekierkom.
                          Ale to jedno i to samo.

                          a DOS 100 JEW ski?
                          On byl przez Raskolnikova drenczony.
                          to sie zemscil
                          Zemstom i Karom.
                          wink)
                          • Gość: 6O2 ZEM5TA i KA7A PRO7ES IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 01:16
                            8IES? DOS 100 JEW ski?
                            D3MON? moze o dziadyMicki33icza?
                            KON7ad 9UStaW ?
                            wink))
                            • mcattery Re: ZEM5TA i KA7A PRO7ES 13.10.04, 01:19
                              ee tam konrad gustaw...
                              zapachnialo mi mesjanizmem...
                              i IV licealna smile
                              • Gość: deTERMINATOR cos wspolczesnego ? akcja IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 01:26
                                matr!x?sFan7a77
                                ?
                                2as7anow sie i 97aj
                                swoja 707e do67ze

                                7eda77o7
                            • Gość: 906 Re: ZEM5TA i KA7A IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 01:22
                              sku7eczne sa
                              Pla6i e9ipskie
                              p723cwicz7le3

                              wink
                    • mcattery Teatrzyk Rzeppospolita 13.10.04, 00:20


                      Ano teatrzyk niezły tu dziś mamy smile
                      Pristupljenje i nakazanje dzisiaj wystawiamy
                      W nowej wersji surrealistycznej
                      forumowej albo nawet bardziej kosmicznej
                      dyskurs na razie o rzeppospolitej
                      zmartwionej w sumie, do spania umytej...
                      a co do luster to ten z wrocka pyta
                      czy jak rzeppospolita w lustro patrzy to widzi czarcie kopyta...
                      czy durnote widzi ogromna?
                      czy moze nature swoja ułomna ?
                      rzeppospolita to widzi..
                      rzeppospolita czasem sie wstydzi..
                      • Gość: dobradobra Re: Teatrzyk Rzeppospolita IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 00:43
                        nie udawaj ze nie wiesz o co chodzi. 3 lata temu moze bys i dostal pochwale,
                        testosteronie, za rozwiazanie szarady. Ale po 3 latach to ci sie nalezy co
                        najwyzej nagana. Nic nie robisz. Studiujesz staruszki na portalu i rozwiazujesz
                        szarady. Kto sie nie rozwija, ten sie cofa. Zaskocz mnie czyms w koncu. A teraz
                        zmiataj cwiczyc mozgownice.
                        • mcattery Re: Teatrzyk Rzeppospolita 13.10.04, 00:54
                          Raskolnikow ubrany w pidzame zatoczyl sie, zamachnal i bez jednego drgnienia
                          miesnia.... pokazal staruszce bleeeeeee......
                          • mcattery DOS 100!!! 13.10.04, 01:02
                            par beczek..

                            jente - to ty tu nie mieszaj. Jente to byla swatka w Skrzypku na Dachu.Calkiem
                            obrotna kobiecina.
                            ligencja - to ekwiwalentny pszyrost husteczek z ligniny do kataru
                            siekierkom - prosze bez ostrych narzedziow lub Siekierezady warszawskiej. Ja
                            mam ja bardzo niedaleko.....
                            Zemsta jest daniem, ktore spozywa sie na zimno. A potem,ze danie jest lodowate
                            ZEMSTOM sie odbija. ( Hoquet = OK )
                            Karom - wole kiery w sumie.

                            Dobranoc zezulem buty i spac bieżem.
                          • Gość: asio! Re: Teatrzyk Rzeppospolita IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 01:03
                            mcattery napisała:

                            > Raskolnikow ubrany w pidzame zatoczyl sie, zamachnal i bez jednego drgnienia
                            > miesnia.... pokazal staruszce bleeeeeee......

                            Zadnego szacunku dla starszenstwa nie majom.
                            Widzisz dochtorze? Oslabiles mi szczekoscisk i od razu podskakuje.

                            Sio, rzepie. Spac! A rano do biblioteki zamiast na forum.
                            • mcattery Re: Teatrzyk Rzeppospolita 13.10.04, 01:09
                              Kobieto !
                              Bylem w bibliotece ostatnio i jusz piszem co wypozyczylem:

                              Wichry namietnosci - Nora Roberts
                              Zemsta w twych oczach - Danielle Steel
                              Demony Normandii 10 - Masterton
                              Predator 4 i poltora
                      • Gość: cza77 Re: Teatrzyk RzepPospolita ?Schneeball IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 00:49
                        RZEPA

                        Jest jednoroczną rośliną warzywną z rodziny krzyżowych. Jej ojczyzną jest
                        prawdopodobnie Azja lub rejon Morza Śródziemnego. Warzywo to znano i ceniono w
                        starożytności - zarówno w Grecji, jak i Rzymie. Obecnie rzepa jest szczególnie
                        doceniana w Europie Zachodniej. Popularna jest również w Stanach Zjednoczonych.
                        W Polsce uprawia się ją od dawna - od okresu przedpiastowskiego. Dopiero w
                        wieku XIX wyparł ją ziemniak.
                        Częścią jadalną warzywa jest kulisty, podługowaty lub spłaszczony,
                        mięsisty, soczysty, łagodny i słodki korzeń spichrzowy barwy białej, żółtawej
                        lub ciemnożółtej, zależnie od odmiany.
                        Rzepa zawiera m.in.: sód, potas, magnez, wapń, żelazo, miedź, fosfor,
                        chlor, karoten, witaminy: B1, B2, B6, C; kwasy: nikotynowy, pantotenowy,
                        foliowy. To wartościowe warzywo ma też zastosowanie w lecznictwie ludowym, np.
                        w leczeniu robaczycy.
                        Najbardziej znane odmiany: Holenderska Biała, Goldball, Teltowska,
                        Schneeball.
                        • Gość: dochtorze! A co zrobic z rzepem ktory mnie czestuje IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 00:59
                          ... przepisami kulinarnymi zamiast umyslowom produkcjom etycznom? I to zaczal 3
                          lata temu?

                          To wartosciowe warzywo, nie mowiac o calym daniu kulinarnym, moze i leczy
                          robaczyce, ale ja nie mam robaczycy!

                          A moze rzep mysli ze ja mam robaczycem. hm....
                          • mcattery Re: A co zrobic z rzepem ktory mnie czestuje 13.10.04, 01:06
                            Mylisz sie najbardziej antyrobakowa roslina sa pestki z dyni.A rzepa
                            antyrobakowego dzialania raczej nie posiada.
                            A co do robaczycy,mozesz sprawidzic czy masz, panuje teraz lamblioza
                            przynajmniej w Warszawie... no ale niestety u kotow...

                            A co do przpisow to ja zrobilem wlasnie dzisiaj zupe z dyni z porto.
                            A co do przepisow etycznych, kupie se ksiazke z nimi i moze co upichce.
                            smile
                            • Gość: ototo! Re: A co zrobic z rzepem ktory mnie czestuje IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 01:11
                              > A co do przepisow etycznych, kupie se ksiazke z nimi i moze co upichce.

                              Ale jedna nie wystarczy. Nie zawsze bedzie dochtor pod renkom zeby moj
                              szczekoscisk oslabiac.
                              Dobranoc
                              • mcattery Dobranoc 13.10.04, 01:21
                                a szczenkoscisk to nie po przepisach kólinarnyh.
                                kupiem sobiem cosik masz Pani cos co polecasz?
                                ide spac.
                                dobranoc.
                                • mcattery Post.... 13.10.04, 01:25
                                  scriptum :
                                  odetchniesz o Białogłowo, ponieważ Smok na Froum nie przybedzie najpewniej
                                  przez 3 nastepne dni... Idzie w konkury i na amory pospiesza z Wybrankasmile
                                  ktora juz od lat niezmienna jest i gosci w sercu mym.
                                  A propos ma Wybranka ksiazke napisala...Tytul Wac Pani zostawiam wyryty na mej
                                  sygnaturze gie giesmilepolecam.. szczerze.
                                • Gość: toidzwreszcie Re: Dobranoc IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 01:34
                                  No coz, chodzi o to, zeby z bagna zrobic jezioro. Jedno i drugie moze zajmowac
                                  taki sam obszar na mapie, ich powierznie w sloncu tak samo moga polyskiwac, ale
                                  to pierwsze jest plytkie, drugie glebokie. Trudnosc polega na tym, ze te
                                  przepisy sa indywidualne. I nie ma innego sposobu, kazdy musi sobie sam wybrac
                                  co kupi. Trzeba nabrac powietrza, nabrac odwagi- i rzucic w polki... Dopiero po
                                  poglebieniu dna mozesz konfrontowac czym sie roznisz od innych jezior. Jesli
                                  sie bedziesz wzorowac - to nie jezioro z ciebie bedzie, a imitacja jeziora. Nie
                                  pytaj wiec o rade. Dobranocsmile
            • Gość: 4409049113 77LOV!37=NUM37 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 12.10.04, 00:09
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    • Gość: -*- LOCALvision IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 24.09.04, 01:37
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      • drf Rewriting Tajik History by Asimov 25.09.04, 23:15

        Marxist ideology has undoubtedly left deep traces in the scientific thinking of
        Tajik scholars. Academics in the young, independent state have to unravel their
        own academic research and the work of their predecessors in order to sift
        scientific results from ideology. In this paper, presented at the ESCAS V, Mr.
        Asimov investigates the historical topics that urgently need to be reviewed. He
        also presents his views on the problem of russification, a predominant
        phenomenon in Soviet Tajikistan.
        By M.S. Asimov

        The dissolution of the Soviet Union gave rise to a revision of Central Asian
        history. Although Central Asian historians of most of this century have
        been 'formatted' in the Marxist methodology, which reduced everything to 'class
        struggle' and denied any human dimension, it is unacceptable to wipe out
        everything that was done in those years.
        We should by no means pretend to be blind and deny that it was during the years
        of the Soviet regime that universities and a highly elaborate network of
        schools were opened, industry started to develop, archaeologists discovered
        important monuments of the past, physicians successfully fought endemic local
        diseases, engineers constructed hydropower stations and illiteracy has overcome
        in Tajikistan. All this and much more permits me to insist in a very modest way
        that it is quite impossible to accept a unilateral negative position to the
        recent past of Central Asia.
        Having given this caution I shall return to my topic; let us see which periods
        in the history of the Tajiks have to be rewritten most urgently, and which
        problems seen from modern objective viewpoints, we should investigate first.

        The benevolent Russian brother.
        One of the most burning issues in our past is the Russian conquest. Central
        Asia was conquered by the Russian Empire in the second half of the nineteenth
        century. Historically it was only another step in Russian colonial politics
        which had started in the fifteenth century with the move to the east.
        The Russian conquest of Central Asia was extremely brutal; we possess an
        impressive testimony of that terrible brutality in the pictures of the great
        Russian artist Vereshchagin. In one of his famous pictures we see a huge hill
        composed of human heads, heads which Russian soldiers severed from the bodies
        of defeated Central Asians.
        This colonial conquest was said to be the free choice of Central Asian nations
        whose single purpose was to be united with the great and most benevolent
        Russian brother!
        Here lies a very important task for historians: their obligation is to uncover
        all details, to describe day by day how Russia conquered Central Asia; sources
        should be published, archives opened, the requisite documents handed over to
        Central Asian scholars. The world should know the truth about the real deeds of
        the Russians in Central Asia.
        Once conquered, Central Asia was made a deliverer of raw material for the
        Russian industry. As far as Tajikistan is concerned, the north grew more
        prosperous than the south. The south of the country remained under control of
        the amir of Bukhara, who was, however, under Russian protection. The amir
        regarded the eastern part of his princedom as a kind of colony; thus the people
        of this "Eastern Bukhara" experienced double exploitation; they led a miserable
        life that is shown in the few contemporary documentaries that still are at our
        disposal.
        The area that we now regard as Northern Tajikistan was in a more favourable
        situation: it was under the direct rule of the Russian governor-general in
        Tashkent. It became an integral part of the Russian Empire. The growth of
        Russia's textile industry augmented the demand for cotton; this raw material
        became the main agricultural product in the area. The growth of trade
        corresponded to that of agriculture and by 1914 the export of Central Asia was
        higher than its import. The growth of trade turned the Central Asian economy
        from an isolated, self-sufficient rural economy into a steadily strengthening
        market-oriented economy. Thus Russian colonization also brought Central Asia
        positive innovations. Railways were constructed, new schools, and gymnasiums
        opened.
        We cannot deny the importance of Russian scholarship. Needless to say that all
        orientalists are highly appreciative of Professor Barthold and his incomparable
        scholarly heritage.

        Enlightening on the Jadidists.
        Another matter is the anti-Russian resistance in Central Asia. Soviet
        historiography had to qualify this as a highly reactionary movement. In the
        restudy of the resistance movement we should first turn to role of the
        enlightened Jadidists. Soviet historians always associated Jadidism with pan-
        Turkism; and indeed, Jadidist leaders expected support from Turkey and dreamed
        of the unification of the Turkish nations. Since pan-Turkism implied a change
        of orientation from Russia to the Turkish nations, it was systematically
        repressed by Russia, along with Jadidism. In the years of Stalin's purges the
        majority of the Jadidists disappeared, even people loosely connected with them
        did not escape Stalin's hand. The Jadidists were painted very black indeed and
        absolutely no research on their real ideas and actions was permitted: one had
        simply to repeat the official formulas.
        We know now that the Jadidists were not reactionaries. They were critical of
        the stagnation in the old princedoms, and they were against the feudal regime.
        The Jadidists were fighting for progress in Central Asia, for the well-being of
        their nation. I am convinced that our duty is to convey the truth about them, a
        process which has already been started. The literary heritage of the Jadidists
        has now been published.

        A history of the Tajik
        It is very important to rewrite the history of the Soviet period, which was
        until recently the favourite period for research. At the same time it was the
        period most subject to control: one could only write what corresponded closely
        to the official views. For that reason the enormous bulk of books, articles,
        and dissertations which deal with this period must be read more than
        critically. The main topics for this period are the so-called revolution in
        Bukhara, the civil war in Central Asia, the redistribution of land, and water,
        the collectivization and industrialization, and the Communist Party's politics
        in the realm of culture and education. I would like to stress once more that we
        have to be very cautious in order not to swing from one extreme to another.
        We have already started this work in Tajikistan. The Institute for History,
        Archaeology, and Anthropology of the Academy of Sciences is preparing a history
        of the Tajik People from the most ancient times up to our own day. The first
        two volumes, which deal with ancient and medieval history, are ready for print.

        Russification.
        Let us discuss one of the problems that was of paramount importance to my
        nation as well as to our neighbours during all the years of Soviet rule: the
        problem of russification.
        Russification embraced a wide spectrum of different issues: language and
        script; perception of the cultural heritage; understanding of national
        identity; family and everyday life; rituals and traditions; dress and food;
        everything underwent russification to a greater or lesser degree. Ultimately it
        reflects the global problem of "West" versus "East".
        The opposition of "West" to "East" has a very long prehistory. It finally took
        its shape in the nineteenth century, when the European countries built their
        colonial empires A popular thought was that an abyss separated "West"
        and "East". We know the verse by Rudyard Kipling:

        "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
        Till Earth and Sky stay presently at God's great Judgment Seat"...

        This was a global opposition, but it was even
        • Gość: ... CENTRALASIANS IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.09.04, 23:34
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          • zupagrzybowa HoDjenT 26.09.04, 00:09
            Dalia Yasharpour was introduced to her dissertation topic by a member of the
            Iranian Jewish community in Los Angeles. Knowing that she was becoming an
            expert in the confluence of Jewish and Persian history and culture, he showed
            her a manuscript in his private collection and said he "wanted to know what it
            was."
            It turned out to be a copy of The Prince and the Sufi, an adaptation of the
            life of Gautama Buddha in verse and rhymed prose. The author is Elisha ben
            Shemuel, a Jew living in 17th-century Persia. A sterling example of Judeo-
            Persian authors, he was a poet writing the Persian language using Hebrew script
            and addressing a Jewish audience in a composition that features a Muslim mystic
            and displays influences of the Persian culture in which he lived.

            Dalia’s dissertation topic focuses on a literary analysis and translation to
            English of the work, which combines Judaic and Iranian traditions with Muslim
            thinking. The plot of the story involves a prince who is, as Dalia puts
            it, "extraordinary in every sense" in his quest to understand the meaning of
            life. A Sufi, or Muslim mystic, seeks him out and enlightens him with an array
            of anecdotes that convey moral, theological, and philosophical values.


            Ben Shemuel was clearly quite familiar with the Persian literary styles of his
            time, Dalia says, and "he was unabashed about seeing Jewish elements integrated
            with the Muslim." At one point, the mystical Muslim master expounds on
            Maimonides’ thirteen principles of the Jewish faith. The Sufi also encourages
            the prince to pursue a moderate form of asceticism, a concept found in ancient
            Iranian wisdom literature.
            "Judeo-Persian authors judged the quality of their work by the degree to which
            they successfully integrated Jewish with Iranian and Muslim elements," says
            Dalia, who finds it "amazing how interdisciplinary" her dissertation topic is.
            To pursue a doctorate in Near Eastern languages and cultures, she had to become
            expert in Islamic, Jewish, and Iranian studies and learn the Persian, Hebrew,
            and Arabic languages. Then, she could begin to examine the linguistic,
            literary, and intellectual features of Judeo-Persian literature.


            "If you’re
            passionate
            about your work,”
            she says,
            “irrespective
            of how
            obscure
            the field, you
            will engage
            people.
            They will
            want to
            listen."
            However, her extraordinary scholarly journey began at her grandmother’s knee,
            listening to stories about the family, Jews who had lived in Iran until 1979
            Islamic Revolution. "I wanted to understand what my connection was to Iran and
            to being Jewish," she says. With her BA in English achieved, Dalia began to sit
            in on Persian language classes at UCLA. She earned a diploma at Oxford
            University’s Center for Jewish Studies, writing a thesis on Iranian-Jewish
            history, which dates back as early as 722 BC. She spent the following summer at
            Hebrew University, studying Hebrew and exploring manuscripts; this would be the
            first of many visits.
            Upon discovering Judeo-Persian literature, she began looking for scholarly
            mentors. "I had to find scholars specializing in Judeo-Persian studies and
            convince them I wasn’t dabbling. I had to go out of my way to prove myself and
            how serious I was." One of those scholarly mentors brought her back to UCLA.
            Hossein Ziai, director of Iranian Studies, "knew that what I wanted to do was
            difficult, that it required extensive research abroad," and yet, she says, "he
            was enthusiastic and encouraging."


            Indeed, Professor Ziai believes that Dalia’s work will make an important
            contribution to scholarship on "the highly positive symbiosis of the Judaic and
            the Iranian framework," as the two cultural threads "merge and inform a
            uniquely harmonious view of fundamental issues relating to knowledge and
            experience." Judeo-Persian literature is not widely studied, and just one
            article has previously been written about Ben Shemuel’s work.
            Until two editions were printed in the 20th century, The Prince and the Sufi
            existed only in manuscripts, one carefully copied from another. Dalia has
            studied manuscripts from collections in the United States and Israel—and of
            course, from the private collection of her Los Angeles connection. Dalia
            relishes her links to the local Iranian Jewish community, where she
            occasionally lectures. "I’ve always wanted my research to be relevant to
            Iranian Jews, to be something that I can share with them. Every time we meet I
            am gratified by our exchange.

            Dalia has also taught at UCLA and Santa Monica College, offering classes in
            language, history, and religion. In Winter 2003, she developed and taught a
            class on the intellectual development of Jews of Iran. She is hoping that her
            wide-ranging knowledge and her fluency in three languages besides English will
            help her find the academic job she seeks.

            In continuing her research, she will benefit from the extensive experience
            she’s acquired drafting proposals that win grants and fellowships—including a
            Skirball, Fulbright and most recently, a Dissertation Year Fellowship—to
            support her graduate work. Particularly with a subject that is relatively
            unknown in the academic world, "one needs to be able to communicate one’s
            research objectives clearly and succinctly," she says, "to write proposals that
            are engaging for people who read them and put one’s case across well."

            Besides the ability to express oneself effectively, Dalia believes that a
            passion for one’s work is the key to success. "If you’re passionate about your
            work," she says, "irrespective of how obscure the field, you will engage
            people. They will want to listen."

            Published in Fall 2003, Graduate Quarterly

            www.heritagefilms.com/TAJIKISTAN.html
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            The ab-ocular hypothesis, then, as applied to Derridathemovie.



            What does Derrida mean, in Memoires, by this curious word and phrase, “the
            abocular hypothesis,” which seems at once so specific and so inaccessible, so
            clear and yet so vague? A quick pre-mémoire or introduction:

            abocular = (Latin) ab (out of, from) + oculis (the eye)

            Thus, and immediately, the “abocular” is constructed on an in-built
            incommensurability, in that “out of or from the eye” can mean either

            a) emanating from within the eye, or

            b) away or separate, distant or discrete from, the eye, created from within
            or received from without by the eye—a perfect (im)balance of the conundrum of
            autoportraiture . . .

    • Gość: 3ש TEOLOGICZNE.ASTROPROJEKCJE IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 29.09.04, 02:51
      homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/index.html
      homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/CONSTELLATIONS.html
      www.uua.org/re/curriculum/awakeningstudyguide.pdf
      • patience Re: TEOLOGICZNE.ASTROPROJEKCJE 29.09.04, 17:53
        Why has academic philosophy suddenly taken to counseling and practical
        consultation? Why now?

        It's by no means sudden, more like a revival, a renaissance. Greek and Roman
        philosophy were thoroughly practical. Aristotle tutored Alexander the Great.
        Marcus Aurelius a Roman emperor took counsel from the Stoic Epictetus.
        Pythagoras founded a society that used philosophy as the basis of communal
        life. Seneca and Lucretius applied philosophy to people suffering from
        religious anxiety and emotional troubles. Plato thought the human race was
        nosos--"sick"--and offered philosophy as medicine. Epicurus, in a statement
        that contemporary philosophical counselors love to quote, said: "Worthless is
        the argument that does not alleviate suffering." Hellenistic thought was
        therapeutic to the core, as Martha Nussbaum demonstrates in Therapy of Desire.
        ..
        How does philosophical counseling differ from other forms of counseling?

        Philosophical counseling has many things in common with most schools of
        counseling, basic human qualities such as a talent for listening, caring for
        the other, relying on experience, special training, and so forth, but it is
        also unique in several ways: for one thing, it is ancient and draws on rich
        traditions dating to the Axial Age of Socrates and Buddha and Lao Tzu.

        Rooted in the wisdom traditions, it appeals to the highest mental
        functions--reason, intuition, and volition. It appeals to the active side of
        the personality and frames the counseling relationship as a special type of
        learning partnership. And it is based on learning practical, not just
        theoretical, skills; for example, it doesn't just discuss free will in the
        abstract but offers instruction on training the will.

        www.parapsi.com/phil-guidelines.html

        www.volition.com/houses.html


        ---

        www.singinst.org/friendly/collective-volition.html
        • drf ----------------AQUALNOSCI--------------- 02.10.04, 03:13
          http://www.singinst.org/LOGI/


          New sensory modalities. Human programmers, lacking a sensory modality for
          assembly language, are stuck with abstract reasoning plus compilers. We are
          not entirely helpless, even this far outside our ancestral environment - but
          the traditional fragility of computer programs bears witness to our
          awkwardness. Minds-in-general may be able to exceed human programming ability
          with relatively primitive general intelligence, given a sensory modality for
          code.
          Blending-over of deliberative and automatic processes. Human wetware has very
          poor support for the realtime diversion of processing power from one subsystem
          to another. Furthermore, a computer can burn serial speed to generate parallel
          power but neurons cannot do the reverse. Minds-in-general may be able to carry
          out an uncomplicated, relatively uncreative track of deliberate thought using
          simplified mental processes that run at higher speeds - an idiom that blurs the
          line between "deliberate" and "algorithmic" cognition. Another instance of the
          blurring line is coopting deliberation into processes that are algorithmic in
          humans; for example, minds-in-general may choose to make use of top-level
          intelligence in forming and encoding the concept kernels of categories.
          Finally, a sufficiently intelligent AI might be able to incorporate de novo
          programmatic functions into deliberative processes - as if Gary Kasparov2 could
          interface his brain to a computer and write search trees to contribute to his
          intuitive perception of a chessboard.
          Better support for introspective perception and manipulation. The
          comparatively poor support of the human architecture for low-level
          introspection is most apparent in the extreme case of modifying code; we can
          think thoughts about thoughts, but not thoughts about individual neurons.
          However, other cross-level introspections are also closed to us. We lack the
          ability to introspect on concept kernels, focus-of-attention allocation,
          sequiturs in the thought process, memory formation, skill reinforcement, et
          cetera; we lack the ability to introspectively notice, induce beliefs about, or
          take deliberate actions in these domains.
          The ability to add and absorb new hardware. The human brain is instantiated
          with a species-typical upper limit on computing power and loses neurons as it
          ages. In the computer industry, computing power continually becomes
          exponentially cheaper, and serial speeds exponentially faster, with sufficient
          regularity that "Moore's Law" [Moore97] is said to govern its progress. Nor is
          an AI project limited to waiting for Moore's Law; an AI project that displays
          an important result may conceivably receive new funding which enables the
          project to buy a much larger clustered system (or rent a larger computing
          grid), perhaps allowing the AI to absorb hundreds of times as much computing
          power. By comparison, the 5-million-year transition from Australopithecus to
          Homo sapiens sapiens involved a tripling of cranial capacity relative to body
          size, and a further doubling of prefrontal volume relative to the expected
          prefrontal volume for a primate with a brain our size, for a total sixfold
          increase in prefrontal capacity relative to primates [Deacon90]. At 18 months
          per doubling, it requires 3.9 years for Moore's Law to cover this much ground.
          Even granted that intelligence is more software than hardware, this is still
          impressive.
          Agglomerativity. An advanced AI is likely to be able to communicate with other
          AIs at much higher bandwidth than humans communicate with other humans -
          including sharing of thoughts, memories, and skills, in their underlying
          cognitive representations. An advanced AI may also choose to internally employ
          multithreaded thought processes to simulate different points of view. The
          traditional hard distinction between "groups" and "individuals" may be a
          special case of human cognition rather than a property of minds-in-general. It
          is even possible that no one project would ever choose to split up available
          hardware among more than one AI. Much is said about the benefits of
          cooperation between humans, but this is because there is a species limit on
          individual brainpower. We solve difficult problems using many humans because
          we cannot solve difficult problems using one big human. Six humans have a fair
          advantage relative to one human, but one human has a tremendous advantage
          relative to six chimpanzees.
          Hardware that has different, but still powerful, advantages. Current computing
          systems lack good built-in support for biological neural functions such as
          automatic optimization, pattern completion, massive parallelism, etc. However,
          the bottom layer of a computer system is well-suited to operations such as
          reflectivity, execution traces, lossless serialization, lossless pattern
          transformations, very-high-precision quantitative calculations, and algorithms
          which involve iteration, recursion, and extended complex branching. Also in
          this category, but important enough to deserve its own section, is:
          Massive serialism: Different 'limiting speed' for simple cognitive processes.
          No matter how simple or computationally inexpensive, the speed of a human
          cognitive process is bounded by the 200Hz limiting speed of spike trains in the
          underlying neurons. Modern computer chips can execute billions of sequential
          steps per second. Even if an AI must "burn" this serial speed to imitate
          parallelism, simple (routine, noncreative, nonparallel) deliberation might be
          carried out substantially (orders of magnitude) faster than more
          computationally intensive thought processes. If enough hardware is available
          to an AI, or if an AI is sufficiently optimized, it is possible that even the
          AI's full intelligence may run substantially faster than human deliberation.
          Freedom from evolutionary misoptimizations. The term "misoptimization" here
          indicates an evolved feature that was adaptive for inclusive reproductive
          fitness in the ancestral environment, but which today conflicts with the goals
          professed by modern-day humans. If we could modify our own source code, we
          would eat Hershey's lettuce bars, enjoy our stays on the treadmill, and use a
          volume control on "boredom" at tax time.
          Everything evolution just didn't think of. This catchall category is the flip
          side of the human advantage of "tested software" - humans aren't necessarily
          good software, just old software. Evolution cannot create design improvements
          which surmount simultaneous dependencies unless there exists an incremental
          path, and even then will not execute those design improvements unless that
          particular incremental path happens to be adaptive for other reasons.
          Evolution exhibits no predictive foresight and is strongly constrained by the
          need to preserve existing complexity. Human programmers are free to be
          creative.
          Recursive self-enhancement. If a seed AI can improve itself, each local
          improvement to a design feature means that the AI is now partially the source
          of that feature, in partnership with the original programmers. Improvements to
          the AI are now improvements to the source of the feature, and may thus trigger
          further improvement in that feature. Similarly, where the seed AI idiom means
          that a cognitive talent coopts a domain competency in internal manipulations,
          improvements to intelligence may improve the domain competency and thereby
          improve the cognitive talent. From a broad perspective, a mind-in-general's
          self-improvements may result in a higher level of intelligence and thus an
          increased ability to originate new self-improvements.
          .........................................................

          A man believed that his neighbor always operated his lawnmower at dinnertime,
          deliberately to annoy him. As a result, he felt resen
          • Gość: JA9 Re: ----------------AQUALNOSCI--------------- IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 02.10.04, 03:20
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            A man believed that his neighbor always operated his lawnmower at dinnertime,
            deliberately to annoy him. As a result, he felt resentment and hostility and
            the sound of the lawnmower began to obsess him. Since there was no way to
            escape the obnoxious sound, he decided he needed to deal with his anger, and
            sought counsel. The counselor persuades him to consider the possibility that
            the mower was not mowing at dinnertime intentionally. (It was in fact a totally
            unfounded assumption.) Once the client forced himself to consider the
            possibility that the annoying action was not deliberate, the physical stimulus
            of the noisy lawnmower ceased to disturb him. The client's assumptions caused
            him to experience a physical stimulus as especially irritating. So in a sense,
            the anger was the conclusion of an argument with false premises. This is a
            simple example showing how philosophy can help moderate disturbing emotions: by
            exposing the false assumptions that feed the emotion.
            A woman was tormented by the inconsistencies of her lover. Sometimes he was
            kind and caring, other times he seemed cold and distant. The inconsistency
            increased her pain. A change occurred after suggesting that her pain was
            aggravated by unrealistic expectations. That expectation was fed by assumptions
            about the unity of the human personality. The breakthrough came when she saw it
            was unrealistic to expect consistency and unity. She considered the idea that
            persons are naturally multiple. Instead of seeing her lover as a unified person
            who was supposed to love her consistently, she practiced viewing him as an
            aggregate of mental traits and functions, (thus drawing on a Buddhist
            conception). Counseling here undermined an expectation that caused needless
            suffering. It's easier to moderate reactions to others once it is understood
            how inherently unstable an aggregate the normal personality is. By enriching
            her perception of the nature of persons, the client learned to accept the
            loving part of her lover and fretted much less over his deficiencies. This of
            course did not rule out that at one point she would decide his deficiencies
            outweighed his virtues.
            An aging man felt depressed because he felt he was losing his edge. Talented,
            functional, in good health, he still felt little enthusiasm for life. He felt
            depleted in the face of time running out. An idea about the nature of time from
            the philosopher Henri Bergson was introduced (time understood as duration).
            Losing one's edge may be inevitable with aging, but the richness and depth of
            experience of older people may compensate. In short, aging offers the
            possibility of a qualitatively deeper experience of time than does the
            experience of younger people. Every moment measured by the clock may be the
            same; but the depth of experience we bring to each moment can make all the
            difference.
            A shy young man who wanted to speak out in class and carry on more expressively
            at social gatherings felt uncomfortable in situations that called for him to
            exhibit his personality. So he turned to philosophical counseling. What was
            philosophical about shyness? Well, he soon realized he always assumed people
            were disposed to laugh at his inadequacies, an idea that was easily proven
            unfounded.
            His fear of being observed also proved to be based on unfounded
            assumptions. He saw this after considering the premise that most people are
            generally more worried about themselves than actively scanning others for their
            deficiencies. He also realized there was nothing he could do if people were
            observing him but much to be done about how he felt if they were. (For this a
            Stoic distinction was usefully applied.) Eventually he came to see that his
            shyness was the other side of a frank desire to be seen and admired. Instead of
            looking for causes of his shyness in the past, he faced the present assumptions
            that were fueling it. Once he found them to be groundless, he saw his behavior
            in a new light. This paved the way for new assumptions and new habits to take
            root.

            A woman struggled with guilt over paying attention to her own needs. She was
            taught to believe she was supposed to sacrifice herself for others, her
            children, her husband, her family and her friends. She never seemed to have
            anything left over to give to herself, which she was also taught to believe was
            selfish. She suffered because she lacked the tools to draw limits on her self--
            sacrifice. She lacked the concept that would allow her to put herself first.
            Philosophical counsel provided her with two wedges: the first was Nietzsche's
            notion of "healthy selfishness." The second was Kant's argument that we have
            duties to ourselves as well as to others. These ideas were used in discussion
            to help her reinterpret her situation.
            A person otherwise happy and able had uncontrollable shopping urges, and the
            debts incurred threatened the stability of her marriage. Her tendency to blame
            and condemn herself complicated the problem. Several strategies came into play
            for coping with this common problem. Once she learned to see that her behavior
            was the result of ruthless advertising strategies designed to make her a
            consumer she learned to reframe her buying habits as part of a culture, or
            spiritual, war. She also came to realize that just wishing to change her habit
            wasn't enough and that she had to take command of her whole life in new and
            skillful ways. Here the saving move was to shift from seeing the problem as
            social and spiritual, not just personal. By filtering her experience through
            the metaphor of "spiritual warfare" as opposed to the metaphor of "sucker"
            or "victim of moral flabbiness" she learned to see her problem in terms that
            were more engaging and self--fulfilling.
            A man had a near--death experience and for a short time experienced what seemed
            like heavenly love and bliss. When he recovered from the cardiac operation that
            led to this experience he found he was unable to adjust to his old life, which
            he now viewed as far removed from what he experienced in his near--death state.
            The contrast was overwhelming and depressing, and he wasn't sure if his near--
            death experience was some kind of diabolic illusion designed to wreak havoc on
            his life.

            wink

            PantaRegeNeReRing !
            • Gość: 6+ Re: ----------------AQUALNOSCI--------------- IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 02.10.04, 17:43
              It is always dangerous to compare the world's continents. Their charms rest in
              the eye of the traveler, and no two travelers or continents are alike. When
              faced with the great continent of Asia, however, it is tempting to step back
              and look at the numbers. Asia represents almost one-third of earth's land mass.
              Its holds the world's highest point, Mt. Everest, and the lowest point outside
              of uninhabitable Antarctica, the Dead Sea. It is home to both the largest and
              deepest lakes on Earth, the Caspian Sea and Lake Baikal. Out of the twelve
              longest rivers on Earth, seven wind through Asia. All the world's major
              religions originated in Asia, and two out of every three people on Earth live
              there.

              The countries of Asia are so diverse that on the surface they have little in
              common. If anything, their commonality lies in diversity itself. Many of the
              societies in Asia are composed of a multiplicity of ethnic groups and
              religions, tribes and languages. Interknowledge invites our readers to sample
              this incredible abundance of landscapes and peoples. Those contemplating an
              adventure in Asia can take heart in the fact that the continent's overwhelming
              immensity is also the source of what is perhaps its greatest natural resource--
              choices.

              www.zencenteroflascruces.org/zen.html
              www.kriyayoga.com/english/encyclopedia/soulmates.htm
              www.aquarius.geomar.de/omc/
              • Gość: God's Gifts Re: ----------------AQUALNOSCI--------------- IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 02.10.04, 18:25
                First and foremost, the Jewish Bible changed history by literally creating
                history. Every religion in the world saw the world in cyclical terms, as a
                Great Wheel (see, for example, the flag of India). In describing the cyclical
                worldview, Cahill cites Henri-Charles Puech, author of Man and Time: "No event
                is unique, nothing is enacted but once . . . ; every event has been enacted, is
                enacted, and will be enacted perpetually; the same individuals have appeared,
                appear, and will appear at every turn of the circle."

                Judaism alone differed. According to the Jews’ way of viewing life, events
                actually move forward; they do not merely repeat themselves. In their rejection
                of this universal mode of thought, Cahill writes, "The Jews were the first
                people to break out of this circle. . . . It may be said with some justice that
                theirs is the only new idea that human beings had ever had." The results of
                this utterly transformative way of understanding life? In Cahill’s words, "Most
                of our best words, in fact—new, adventure, surprise; unique individual, person,
                vocation; time, history, future; freedom, progress, spirit; faith, hope,
                justice—are the gifts of the Jews."

                Cahill is right to emphasize this transformative Jewish contribution. If all is
                a circle, nothing we do matters, none of us matter, life does not matter. It
                will all happen again. What we do doesn’t matter—for our actions to matter,
                they must be able to influence the future. But the future cannot be influenced
                if everything happens over and over.

                If, on the other hand, the Jewish view is adopted, everything matters—every act
                I engage in matters, and therefore I matter—so much so that each one of us
                changes history by everything we do. Cahill offers two excellent—and, to my
                knowledge, original—explanations of why the Bible’s genealogies, sections of
                the Bible that bore most of us, are of vast importance. One is that the listing
                of these individuals’ names—even the names of women—was the Hebrew Bible’s way
                of saying that every one of these persons was uniquely significant.
                Fourth, the Jews gave the world the notion of human freedom—on two levels. The
                first and more obvious is the Torah’s rejection of slavery as a norm in the
                human condition—which is why black Americans took so much solace in the Hebrew
                Bible’s exodus narrative. The less obvious but no less important way was
                another result of the Bible’s complete rejection of the cyclical view of
                life: "We are not doomed, not bound to some predetermined fate; we are free. If
                anything can happen, we are truly liberated—as liberated as were the Israelite
                slaves when they crossed the Sea of Reeds."

                Now someone—preferably though not necessarily a non-Christian—needs to
                write "The Gifts of the Christians." For these are very great and include
                something called the United States of America. America is largely a Christian
                gift, and unless most of us Americans understand this, and unless Christian
                influence endures, this gift will surely be taken away. European rejection of
                those gifts gave us Nazism and communism. Even a Jew knows that.

                "A man who has faith must be prepared not only to be a martyr, but to be a
                fool. It is absurd to say that a man is ready to toil and die for his
                convictions when he is not even ready to wear a wreath around his head for
                them." - G. K. Chesterton

                www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9811/reviews/prager.html
                • Gość: drf Po3zja IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 08.10.04, 21:58
                  CzYstaPo3zja

                  postanowilem opowiedziec wam historie
                  wlasnymi slowami nie odwolujac sie
                  do czegokolwiek
                  po raz pi3rwszy w moim zyciu
                  gdy zrozumialem ze slowa woda to jedynie
                  CzYstaPo3zja lit3ratura

                  *
                  • patience Re: Po3zja 09.10.04, 00:05
                    istnienie jest
                    pragnienie znaczy
                    uciekinierze
                    witaj w domu
                    • drf Po3zjaWy9nania? 09.10.04, 00:58
                      Dom pu3liczny
                      a miejsce ktore zajmuje
                      pRywaTne
                      jestem ruchomym FRa9menTem
                      pRzesTRz3ni
                      moze falowaniem powierzchni Morza ?
                      Morza Smierci
                      Moze Zycia ?
                      **
                      • patience Re: Po3zjaWy9nania? 09.10.04, 01:55
                        teraz jest zawsze
                        powrot
                        to gotowanie zupy
                        • Gość: 3od 9otowanie zupy9Rzy3owej IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 09.10.04, 02:25
                          doWody sie znajda wink))
                          smile)))))
                          • patience Re: 9otowanie zupy9Rzy3owej 09.10.04, 03:05
                            Gość portalu: 3od napisał(a):

                            > doWody sie znajda wink))
                            > smile)))))

                            To ide sie zdrzemnac!

                            hihiiiiiiiiiiiii
                            • Gość: 7en I7onia I7anska IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 09.10.04, 12:34
                              s7ukam 7ieloznaczosci
                              i 7najde
                              w 7y77ach
                              nie 7akie nume7y
                              a inne
                              e7o7yczne
                              e7ys7encjalne
                              *
                              al7a6e7ycznie 3ozna 7ez
                              w 7eRRa8aj7ach naN0
                              8ez9Ranicznie
                              **
                              opano3anie s7yF2u?
                              7od du7ha?
                              klucz 7aju?
                              7en I7onii i7anskiej
                              7ywy
                              i7realny

                              ***
                              4409049113
                              73ecja
                              7ztokholm
                              eNi9ma
                              • Gość: R/\) Watchtower IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 10.10.04, 01:18
                                ->titta<-
                                (*)
                                • Gość: pytajnik Uch strumien swiadomosci IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 10.10.04, 10:15
                                  tak mi sie wydaje, ze w tym majlu udalo mi sie sporzadzic znakomity zapis
                                  strumienia swojej swiadomosci biezacej, kilka jezykow i kilka spraw na raz. To
                                  jest niesamowicie wqurzajace, jak sie mysli wydawaloby sie w miare spojnie, a
                                  po otwarciu ust wylewa sie z nich belkotsad

                                  Chodzilo mi miedzy innymi o nastepujace pytanie:

                                  Mamy wiec 4D: numerki 1,2,3,4
                                  Na przyklad Nietsche - mozna chyba powiedziec ze dotarl do nr 3. Znajdujac sie
                                  miedzy 1 a 2 kontemplowal znaczenie "plasterka", ktorego mial do dyspozycji w
                                  nr. 3. Slusznie doszedl do wniosku, ze w pozycji nr. 3 numerki nr 1 oraz 2 go
                                  nie dotycza i wyciagnal wnioski, a potem swira dostal...

                                  W programowaniu 4 poziomu kodowanie 3D jest oczywiscie nietrudne, no nie? No
                                  ale teraz chodzi o strune i np. widac, ze punkty nr 1 i 2 jednak dotycza, hihi.
                                  To znaczy w pewnym sensie, troche tak, troche nie. Czyli nie wiem czy warto sie
                                  zajmowac plasterkami? Albo na przyklad relacja plasterka do struny

                                  No wiec, czy nr 4 da sie przetlumaczyc na jakies narzecze bardziej zrozumiale
                                  dla otoczenia?

                                  ==========

                                  70\/3 |5 900)

                                  (.)
                              • Gość: pełnejasne Re: I7onia I7anska IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 10.10.04, 02:21
                                > eNi9ma

                                < forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=741459&a=16553188


                                wink
                                • Gość: F1 strumienieMysli IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 10.10.04, 23:27
                                  Faze 1 - 2 sets of 3
                                  • drf PHAZE 2 10.10.04, 23:44
                                    1 set of 3 and 1 run of 4
                                    • Gość: 3D PHAZE 3 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 10.10.04, 23:46
                                      1 set of 4 and 1 run of 4
                                      • zupagrzybowa PHAZE 4 /sic! 10.10.04, 23:51
                                        1 run of 7
                                        • Gość: dlaczego? Re: PHAZE 4 /sic! IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 10.10.04, 23:55
                                          > 1 run of 7

                                          ????????????
                                          • Gość: okej definicje IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 00:06
                                            set = zbior obiektow = oznaczony tym samym symbolem np cyfra lub litera

                                            run = uporzadkowanie w jakiejs konwencji

                                            takie sa zasady tej najbardziej popularnej gry w US

                                            dlaczego ?

                                            programowanie...

                                            gry matematyczne psyHologia?
                                            wink
                                            • Gość: heheeeeeee Re: definicje IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 00:13
                                              masz farta ze jestes daleko bo bym nos ci rozkwasila heheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                                              > gry matematyczne psyHologia?

                                              no wlasnie!!!

                                              hihi zaraz podpale dywan
                                              • Gość: nono sa 7ez <oloRy IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 00:18
                                                why N07 ?
                                                • drf PHAZE 8 11.10.04, 00:23
                                                  7-things in 1 <olor

                                                  (.)
                                                  • Gość: orany Re: PHAZE 8 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 00:26
                                                    no probuje
                                                  • Gość: muZyka <olor=ZmYsłY IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 00:36
                                                    Wymysly 7ez
                                                    wink)))
                                                  • Gość: zmyslymam! Re: <olor=ZmYsłY IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 00:47
                                                    Gość portalu: muZyka napisał(a):

                                                    > Wymysly 7ez

                                                    i domysly ...

                                                    dran
                                                    ale i tak walczem w domyslniki
                                                    a te fazy im dalej tym mniej materii stalej

                                                    wink)
                                                  • Gość: drf masz 7aCJE IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 01:03
                                                    7ozrzedza sie

                                                    ale i expanduje

                                                    te przest7zenie

                                                    MO mentalne

                                                    wink
                                                  • Gość: aaaaaaa Re: <olor=ZmYsłY IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 01:06
                                                    <olor sie robi z biegania
                                                    sam z siebie nie istnieje
                                                    a materii stalej wcale nie mniej
                                                    hahaha od kamienia do wody
                                                    zabawne wymyslysmile))))))))
                                                  • Gość: zupa9zy8owa Fi ZyCz Nosc 8 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 01:15
                                                    7ZmY5LaMi ???
                                                    2do3
                                                    iDeN7ycZnosc
                                                    run oF 8s?
                                                  • Gość: 0So8A 0So8OWoSCi IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 01:25
                                                    0So608Y sa Rozne 73Z
                                                    osO8Liwe



                                                  • Gość: tak Re: 0So8Liwe IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 01:45
                                                    to najdziwniejsze
                                                    bez odpowiedzi
                                                    moze lepiej
                                                    agnoStycznie?
                                                  • Gość: 0K 7Y<i3 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 01:57
                                                    7Y<i3

                                                    1zycie nie wiecej?
                                                    7un o7 99 Yea7s
                                                    9NOZ7ycznie ?
                                                    <0L07o\/0
                                                  • Gość: ).S Re: 7Y<i3 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 02:10
                                                    1 7un
                                                    of in7ini73 <oL07s
                                                    miedzy nr 1 i 2
                                                    skonczona dlugosc, nieskonczona szerokosc
                                                    i juz?

                                                  • Gość: nieWiem pR7e7Y<i3 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 02:22
                                                    <ZASnieLineA7ny?
                                                    O808LIWOSC ?
                                                    7oscia9liwa 7ez ?
                                                  • Gość: toWidac Re: pR7e7Y<i3 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 02:47
                                                    1. nieLineA7na - p7a9ni3nia to nie przyczyny lub skutki
                                                    sila ciezkosci jest. Kamien spada na ziemie gdyz sie znalazl za blisko.
                                                    Przyczyna upadku kamienia jest jego niewystarczajaca odleglosc od ziemi a nie
                                                    sila ciezkosci. Przyczyny i skutki sie zaczynaja od woli, a zmiany wynikaja i z
                                                    woli, i z p7a9ni3n?

                                                    2. 7oscia9liwa wszerz, nie7oscia9liwa wzdluz. Kreci sie i to wszerz sie czasem
                                                    miesza z innym wszerz, ale i tak jest spojne do srodka, a nie na zewnatrz. Ale
                                                    moze byc pomieszane orbitowanie wokol wspolnego srodka ciezkosci?

                                                    Ale wystarczy zeby jeden rozmiar sie dawal rozciagac, zeby to sie nie dalo
                                                    nazwac skonczonym, no nie?

                                                    W tym sensie Bog istnieje. Ale nie w punkcie 2, tylko wszerz, hihiiiiii
                                                  • Gość: 609 809 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 02:59
                                                    O 6o9u wole milcZeC
                                                    8 w pop7ek?
                                                    can7o7 sie klania
                                                    z ©on7inuuuuuuum
                                                    809KA )3S73S smile))
                                                    ).Z.K
                                                  • Gość: hihi Re: 809 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 03:08
                                                    tCh.rzysz przed 609.3m? hihi )a Tez.
                                                    7y t3z )39739 900)

                                                    3.7<a smile)))))))))))))))
                                                  • Gość: run Re: Fi ZyCz Nosc 8 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 01:30
                                                    DNA <oloru?
                                                    self-deTerraMinacJa
                                                    poprzez stawanie sie?
                                                    jest parzysta
                                                    ma to wpisane
                                                  • Gość: 7UN >NA <OLO7U IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 01:39
                                                    wi7aj 3IL<.
                                                    smile))))))))))))))))))))))
                                                  • Gość: 7UNS3T Re: >NA <OLO7U IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 01:52
                                                    a7HHHH ).734

                                                    smile))))))))
                                                  • Gość: ).734 <0L07Y 70LNOSC! IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 02:08
                                                    4AN7AZJA
                                                    smile)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                                                  • Gość: 3IL<. Re: <0L07Y 77C!A IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 02:22
                                                    hihi tak
                                                    namacalnie przyjemna smile)))))))))))
                                                  • Gość: ?3S 77C!3 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 02:36
                                                    77C!3
                                                    3A733A77KA
                                                    PI7A9063JSKA
                                                    OSo8LiWa
                                                  • Gość: 63XUALN7 609 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 03:13
                                                    609 63XU ?
                                                    (.)
                                                    a mowia ze ma7ema7yka nie ma 63XU?-)
                                                  • Gość: uroczyscie Re: 6o0O9 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 03:22
                                                    oraz w pelni przytomnosci umys7u wpi9uje w to d77ewko ze MA!73MA!7yka -)
                                                    (*)
                                      • Gość: wolniej!!!!!! Pomalutku prosze!!!!!! IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 10.10.04, 23:53
                                        a najlepiej jeszcze raz!
                                        Nie nadazam!!!!!!

                                        Och jak sie wqrzam ze nie moge zrobic krzyzowego ognia pytan, hihi
                                        • Gość: ).(Z93W& 7he 3nd IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 03:33
                                          8uzi
                                          • Gość: 8u7i Re: 7he 3nd IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 11.10.04, 03:39
                                            faza 10
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                                            smile
                                            • Gość: -+-=<©S <0333N7S IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 08:03
                                              www.derridathemovie.com/comment-1.html
                                              Derridathemovie profoundly plays with the slippery issues of light, of
                                              enlightenment, of lightness, of cinematic spot-lighting. And it plays with the
                                              occlusion of en-lightenment, the dynamics of seeing and not seeing, saying and
                                              not saying, of the “telling” of and by Derrida. The layers and laminations of
                                              which the film is comprised slip across, under, and around one another in a
                                              textual and semiotic dance of light, at once coy and confrontive, uneasy and
                                              familiar, blinding us with insight and with lack of light. As a film, it is a
                                              remarkable achievement, the first of a new kind of cinematic pensum. Like
                                              deconstruction, Derridathemovie (as I will call it here, since though it is
                                              many things it is not, acknowledges that it is not, and refuses to be, Derrida)
                                              constructs, with great care that is simultaneously disguised as a kind of
                                              improvisation, the interrogation out of which Derrida’s own textual questions
                                              emanate. Derrida’s “own” question, who or what is writing?, transmutes in the
                                              film into the Nietzschean question, who is asking this question and of what
                                              might any adequate response consist? And, by extension, in what medium?
                                              • Gość: N^M8375 AQADEMIA PI7A9073J5KA IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 09:09
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                                                  • Gość: gRama7!con 911317!C0N IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 18:49
                                                    7!0N
                                                  • mcattery gramaticon..... 11.10.04, 18:56
                                                    a jak by bylo eroticon ?
                                                    smile
                                                  • Gość: 313KC!1 3107!C0N IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 19:08
                                                    to 8y 8ylo W3s3LeJ ???
                                                    smile))))))))))))))))))))
                                                    D17
                                                  • mcattery Re: 3107!C0N 11.10.04, 19:10
                                                    zdecydowanie by nie bylo smile
                                                  • mcattery 313KC!1 11.10.04, 19:12
                                                    raniii gdzie?
                                                    u kogo smile?
                                                  • Gość: moW!3 313KC!1 P10911m 0W1 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.04, 19:27
                                                    53XV1lN1 = sexualna
                                                    3c17731y???
                                                  • drf 3575760 70 77417 : 6!7190115 11.10.04, 20:59
                                                    wszysTko to cy4ra
                                                    pitagoras
                                                  • mcattery Re: 3575760 70 77417 : 6!7190115 11.10.04, 21:34
                                                    temat Twojej wiadomosci : Wszystko to cyfrasmile Pitagorassmile
                                                  • mcattery Re: 313KC!1 P10911m 0W1 11.10.04, 21:39
                                                    53XV1lN1=3c17731y smile)))))
                                                  • Gość: !7737 87355!495 2 7 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 12.10.04, 00:19
                                                    Blessings to you
                                                    70877407
                                                    dobranoc
                                                    jozek
                                                  • Gość: al90777m 90E2J1ma7ema7y721 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 13.10.04, 00:11
                                                    \/e7y\/\/ild
                                                    ..............
                                                    o97aniczenie
                                                    7y770 10 li7e7
                                                    ale 8a7dzo wielo2na©zn7ch wink
                                                    .........................
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                                                  • kanslichef Or9ning 0ch R9da 13.10.04, 02:24
                                                    6o6r3 9o72987i?
                                                  • Gość: kanslituum Re: Or9ning 0ch R9da IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 02:40
                                                    6o6r3

                                                    smile))
    • Gość: ćśoG                                                    IP: *.strong / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 13.10.04, 02:46
      you smoke, fool?
      • kanslichef and u?                                          13.10.04, 02:53
        m7:ćśoG ?
        • Gość: ĽůV ÝöűŘ GöĐ mee                                         duz   IP: *.strong / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 13.10.04, 02:56
          • Gość: 609.5Fuck.n96o09 homo                                  sapiens IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 03:03
            8uzismile
          • drf 88ee    8eee                                      13.10.04, 03:07
            ĽůV ÝöűŘ GöĐ

            Kanslichefen bistår ministrarna med ledningen och övervakningen av verksamheten
            vid ministeriet och vid ämbetsverken och inrättningarna inom dess
            förvaltningsområde.


            6ez8y77u
            6733777szwecja
            • mistatwista Re: 88ee    8eee                                 13.10.04, 03:15
              §eľekT wEEd

              • Gość: €§ 1oo ‰ §eLekTa %|w33d|%%|w33d|%%|w33d|%%|w33d|%%|w33d|% IP: *.strong / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 13.10.04, 03:22
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                • mistatwista """"!b4bY+LoNiA_iS_p0+LoNiA_d00d!"""" 13.10.04, 03:30
            • Gość: meczaca Re: popularnosc jest                             IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 03:19
              3.37 6u7o 4.n03
              3073...
              c7u7. no>. 7.705c?
      • Gość: golaid Re:                                            IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 02:54
        Gość portalu: ćśoG napisał(a):

        > you smoke, fool?

        - No thanks, inydopsog, wellCome herewink
    • Gość:                                                      IP: *.strong / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 13.10.04, 02:48
      • drf d7a3a7i7on?     13.10.04, 03:21
        7e9a7 7a7e lo
        7a7a? a8su77?
        • Gość: WealthFromWaste d7a3a7i7on: 7i3e, s7ace, ac7ion . IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 13.10.04, 23:33
          www.radio.katowice.pl/
          srp6.net/red/page_pol_start.html
          encyklopedia.pwn.pl/42461_1.html
          www.bip.radzionkow.pl/
          www.ilsr.org/recycling/recyclingmeansbusiness.html
          www.volvo.com/group/poland/pl-pl
          • Gość: recyklistycyzm ^YKL!^22OS^ IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 14.10.04, 14:34
            re^y^ling l00p 04 !de!as ?Waste Imperialism? Ekomunizm?
            .................................................
            While employment in the U.S. grew only 2.1% annually between 1967 and 2000, the
            recycling industry saw 8.3% increase in employment, and 12.7% growth in annual
            sales. In 1967, the recycling industry consisted of approximately 8,000
            companies, employing 79,000 people, with $4.6 billion in sales. See ILSR press
            release, Recycling Sector Has a 30-year Record of Impressive Growth.
            .........................................................................
            Ekomunizm recyklistow?
            wink
            • Gość: niemowa Re: ^YKL!^22OS^ IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 14.10.04, 18:12
              Gość portalu: recyklistycyzm napisał(a):
              .........................................................................
              > Ekomunizm recyklistow?
              > wink

              ha! recyklistycyzm czy zaintrygowantyzm?
              (katowicowizm chwilowy. Do pozostalych wymienionych miejscowosci aktualnie nie
              jadewink
              • Gość: patience Re: ^YKL!^22OS^ IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 14.10.04, 18:15
                acha, nie widac gdzie teraz jestem, hihiiiiiiiiiii

                Buzkasmile
              • drf szokholmstwo ekumenistow...5.9 14.10.04, 21:46
                katowicyzm zrecyklowany s3op
                in3ryga 3unk3a3orska za3onczona
                ©aquaNet5.9
                ni w 5 ni w 9
                smile
                • Gość: der !D zd7owie adama michnika IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 14.10.04, 23:09
                  a na co jes7 cho7y?
                • Gość: re.c7kl.is.7ka Re: szokholmstwo ekumenistow...10 IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 16.10.04, 00:01
                  in3ryga 3unk3a3orska ro2pocz37a!
                  katowic7z3 shocko1mieje
                  www eter2e
    • blumenstein Ale skupisko kretynów 14.10.04, 23:44
    • blumenstein No, powitać idiotę Euromira 14.10.04, 23:45
      • drf he he Jozio Zawadzki sie zjawil...;))) 14.10.04, 23:58

        wi7amy w klinice !
        smile))
        • Gość: wi7aj KRETYN TEZ CZLOWIEK IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.10.04, 00:13
          8lumenszajn...
          wink))
          • Gość: h€È hÉÊË cza7naSu8s7ancja Moz9owa? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.10.04, 00:35
            zawadzki&pa7kinson&altzaimer
            wink
            • drf KGB =k68 ;) 15.10.04, 14:14
              Geheimdienst
              WKB durch den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB verweigert worden war " , an bundesd
              WKD seit 1953 gibt es den Geheimdienst KGB ) .
              M89 en an den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB geliefert und den Sowjets damit "Ein
              M89 l für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB hat das Oberlandesgericht Düsseldorf
              M89 R+ Auch wenn die dem Geheimdienst KGB unterstellte Lagerkommandantur am "T
              M96 n 1991 Gorbatschow den Geheimdienst KGB zerschlug, übernahm Primakow die neu
              M99 ang für den russischen Geheimdienst KGB spioniert haben. Unter den 261 auf d
              M01 1991 den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB beherbergte. Jetzt sind dort in die
              R98 it und der sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB waren jahrzehntelang im Dunstkreis B
              R99 schen dem sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB und dem MfS abgestimmten und Stasi-M
              A97 ehemalige sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB im Lande unterhalten hatte. Vor eine
              A97 machte der sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB das Hotel zu einer Ausbildungsstätte
              A99 er frühere sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB 1981 das Attentat auf Papst Johannes
              E96 früheren sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB. In Lettland leben heute insgesamt r
              E98 hfolgeorganisation des sowjetischen KGB, der russische Geheimdienst (FSB), d
              E00 hemaligen sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB stammen? Heute formiert sich wiederu
              I97 T). +q Der sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB hat nach einem Bericht des Nachricht
              I98 n für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB tätig gewesen sein. Das behauptet da
              I00 e Informationen an den Geheimdienst KGB verkauft haben.
              K00 n sogar vom russischen Geheimdienst KGB im Verdacht auf "illegale Einwanderu
              K00 e er ihr, dass er beim Geheimdienst KGB war), hinterließ keinen bleibenden E
              L99 sie an den russischen Geheimdienst KGB weiterzuleiten.Der Staatssicherheits
              V97 n für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB ausspioniert haben soll.
              V99 früheren sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB gearbeitet haben soll, lebt nach Pre
              V00 en an den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB verkauft haben.
              X98 dex sei vom russischen Geheimdienst KGB gegründet worden.
              X00 durch den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB. Auch die jahrhundertealten Gesetze
              n91 egal und verbannte den Geheimdienst KGB aus der Republik. Das Eigentum von P
              n91 stiz, Verteidigung und Geheimdienst KGB) seiner direkten Kontrolle unterstel
              n91 ssen, den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB aufzulösen. Dies meldete die Nachric
              n91 m Innenministerium, im Geheimdienst KGB und im Verteidigungsministerium ille
              N92 tteln, weil dieser vom Geheimdienst KGB Material über seinen Gegenspieler Je
              N92 ächst den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB vermutet. Auch sei er davon ausgegan
              N93 , Innenministerium und Geheimdienst KGB. Auf diesen Trägern der realen Macht
              N94 n für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB. Anscheinend hat er US-Agenten und d
              N95 Spionagethrillers: Der Geheimdienst KGB wurde vom Beschuldigten ebenso bemüh
              N95 t mit dem sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB standen.
              N96 der als Nachfolge-Organisation des KGB den Kampf gegen Terrorismus, Mafia u
              N96 rriere im sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB. Mitte der 80er Jahre wurde er Leibw
              N98 führt wurde, sollen der sowjetische KGB und der bulgarische Geheimdienst gep
              N99 ehemalige sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB hat Sprengstoff und Waffen in Westeu
              N00 Arbeit im sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB.
              O97 blich vom sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB angelegten Sprengstofflager abgebroc
              P91 etischen Armee und dem Geheimdienst KGB heimlich ins westliche Ausland gebra
              P91 üchtigten sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB aufzulösen. Statt dessen sollen drei
              P91 lang vom sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB finanziert worden.
              P92 früheren sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB zu kursieren begannen. Nun mußte die
              P92 hfolgeorganisation des sowjetischen KGB konzentriere sich insbesondere auf w
              P92 suchte der sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB 1989 in Litauen einen gewissen Menac
              P93 u Zeiten der UdSSR dem Geheimdienst KGB unterstanden ist und der auf die Auf
              P94 früheren sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB als Agenten gearbeitet zu haben.
              P94 langjähriger Zusammenarbeit mit dem KGB und dem tschechoslowakischen Geheimd
              P95 ehemaligen russischen Geheimdienst KGB und der Sowjet-Nomenklatura nahesteh
              P96 schon im sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB Karriere gemacht.
              P96 r für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB gearbeitet und dies verheimlicht hab
              P97 hen, daß der russische Geheimdienst KGB hierorts Waffenlager angelegt habe.
              P97 l für den sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB für terroristische Zwecke gebaut." D
              P98 der einst berüchtigte Geheimdienst KGB den "dekadenten Kapitalismus" zu zer
              P99 früheren sowjetischen Geheimdienst KGB. Aber es ist eben auch ein typisches
              P99 t, daß der sowjetische Geheimdienst KGB beim Attentat auf Papst Johannes Pau
              39 ©-Konkordanzen
              corpora.ids-mannheim.de/ccdb/db/4b47/4b4742/k4b4742000000000.shtml

              www.fas.org/irp/world/russia/kgb/
              • Gość: anielogujesie po.. IP: *.acn.waw.pl 15.10.04, 20:39
                randce...
                najpierw z tarcza, potem na tarczy.....
                psia..macsad

                ide machnac farfalle z łososiem, gałka muszkatałowa itp itd...
                bo ni jak ...k.... mych problemow moralnych chiba nie rozwiaze...

                Pozdrowienia

          • Gość: Szymon ceeso-euromirze wielce niekompletny, ty nawet kre IP: *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 15.10.04, 20:47
            tynem nie jesteś. Haha. To ile ci zostałopo tym nieudanym obrzezaniu? Oj
            niewiele , mówi rafałek.
            • Gość: patience Zaniepokoilam sie, Panie Jozefie IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 15.10.04, 23:46
              Witam serdecznie, jak zwykle, ale troche zaniepokojona. Rozumiem czemu Pan
              pisze o Ceesie, ale Euromir? Mysli Pan, ze ten gosciu ze Szwecji z ktorym tu
              pare uwag wymienilam, to Euromir? A to sie dalam nabrac! Dziekuje za
              ostrzezenie, Panie Jozefie. A wlasciwie to ten Euromir zawsze mi sie wydawal
              podejrzany, ale nie zdawalam sobie sprawy, ze tak potrafi nabierac ludzi. Chyba
              specjalnie do tego celu szkolony, jak Pan mysli?
              • Gość: Szymon [...] IP: *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 16.10.04, 00:57
                Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.
                • Gość: id30l09 [...] IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.10.04, 18:43
                  bog forum obrezezal ci jezyk szymonie...
                  wpolczuje i domyslam sie najgorszego...
                  naruszenia regulaminu wink))

                  ps shalom oszolomom !!!
                  wink))
                  • Gość: raskolnikov hej doktorze IP: *.acn.waw.pl 17.10.04, 18:48
                    szymon zakonczyl okres remisji po prostu...
                    masz racje trzeba mu tylko wspolczuc.


                    • drf DOBRY WIECZOR POLSKO! 17.10.04, 20:03

                      smile))

                      17.10.2008

                      pozdrowienia z przyszlosci
                      17imes

                  • Gość: ooo? Re: id30l09? czy7? IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 17.10.04, 19:31
                    shalom id30l0903!
                    wink))
                    ps. no moze jednak cos ewentualnie zdekonstruktywizuje? Bo inaczej nie dasz mi
                    zyc?
                    • Gość: raskolnikov emocjonalne porwanie IP: *.acn.waw.pl 17.10.04, 19:58
                      Czytalem kiedys dobra ksiazke psychologiczna.No i ... wyjasnienie dla zbrodni
                      Raskolnikova moze wydac sie proste.
                      Otoz gdy ktos jest bardzo wzburzony jego mozgiem zaczyna rządzic jedna z
                      najstarszych jego czesci mianowicie rdzen przedluzony.On przejmuje wladze
                      absolutna w mozgu.Wydziela sie adrenalina, dopamina, nastepuje szczekoscisk,
                      rozszerzenie zrenic i tym podobne reakcje organiczne.
                      Aktywizacja rdzenia przedluzonego, tak jak wspomnialem powoduje wygaszenie
                      innych czesci mozgu odpwoiedzialnych za np. pamiec.
                      I wtedy czlowiek pisze : spierdalaj, wali stolkiem o podloge, rzuca talerzem, a
                      nawet zabija.
                      Porwanie emocjonalne oczywscie w kk jest okreslone jako zbrodnia w afeckcie.Ale
                      nie o tym mowa chociaz Raskolnikov z punktu widzenia medycznego doswiadczyl
                      wlasnie takiego porwania.
                      I dlatego znalazlbym inna postac z innym zaburzeniem do zobrazowania danej
                      osoby smile
                      Wracajac do rdzenia przedluzonego....
                      Ktos by zapytal a na co taki rdzen? A na to ze poza dopuszczaniem do handicapu
                      odpowiedzialny jest on za pamietanie spraw zwiazanych z duzymi emocjami.
                      Inna czesc mozgu tj. hipokamp ( taki maly poobny do slimaka stworek ) pamieta
                      sprawy obojetne tj. na przyklad gdzie polozyles/las coca cole itd.












                    • Gość: ?eeee! mo2e achiTekturaDucha? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 18.10.04, 00:03
                      genialnie deKonstSTrRuktywizujesz tota(l*e)litaryzm .....
                      samo ZYCIE !!!
                      (.)
                      • Gość: !aaaaach? Re: mo2e byc. IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.10.04, 00:41
                        dzienkujem i nawzajem.
                        Nadmieniam skromnie ze wiem jak zrobic, zeby bylo jeszcze wiecej zycia i
                        bardziej wesolo...
                        Wiesz jak?
                        wink))
    • Gość: 19:15 / 17-X-04 Zapamietasz ta godzine i ta date. IP: *.strong / *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 17.10.04, 19:14
    • Gość: drf Jozek ,ty jestes kompletny .... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 18.10.04, 00:47
      idio7a...jo7a w jo7ewink
      jezeli Polska i kosciol ka7olicki ma 7akich
      o6roncow jak 7y 7o nie po7Rzeba jej wrogow...smile

      Ks jankowski pzesyla ucalowania
      wink
      • mcattery zeby bylo weselej 1. 18.10.04, 01:00
        Paryż – Naukowcy francuscy opatentowali najmniejszy mikroskop na świecie o
        rozmiarach nie przekraczających wielkość kciuka.

        Tokio – Japońscy konstruktorzy w błyskawicznym tempie opracowali mikroskop o
        tak małych rozmiarach, że można go zobaczyć tylko pod mikroskopem.

        Moskwa – Tutejsi inżynierowie skonstruowali mikroskop, którego w ogóle nie
        można zobaczyć.

        Hawana – Na Kubie już od dawna nie widziano żadnego mikroskopu.

        Pekin – Konstruktorzy Chińskiej Republiki Ludowej zapewniają, że w ich kraju
        każdy woli jeździć na rowerze.
        • zaufany.chirurg.niny.terentiew Re: zeby bylo weselej 1. 18.10.04, 01:05
          Toledo, 9 pazdziernika 2004 (inf. wł.)

          Naukowcy z Uniwersytetu Rosynanta w Toledo odkryli największą liczbę świata.
          Jest nią 2 do potęgi 28935689754291856834753894569387598756238956475 plus 2.
          Przypomnijmy, że dotychczas za największą liczbę uważano 2 do potęgi
          28935689754291856834753894569387598756238956475 plus 1, znaną jako 'Liczba Psi-
          Omega'.

          Trwają spory, jak nazwać nową rekordzistkę. Najprawdopodobniej wygra jedna z
          dwóch propozycji: 'Liczba Psi-Omega plus jeden' lub 'Liczba Jowiszowa'.

          Kierownik zespołu odkrywców liczby, prof. Baltasar Martinez twierdzi, że
          prawdopodobnie istnieją jeszcze większe liczby, ale ich odkrycie będzie
          wymagało dużo silniejszych komputerów, niż te, z których naukowcy korzystają
          obecnie.
    • Gość: patience Panie Jozefie mam postulat do pana IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.10.04, 01:04
      Widzi pan, drf wypowiedzial sie niepochlebnie na temat panskiego potencjalu
      intelektualnego. Ja sie z nim niestety musze zgodzic, a nawet dodam, ze jest
      gorzej. Pan sam wielokrotnie pisal, ze cees sie pod te wszystkie niki podszywa,
      a tutaj z kolei pan twierdzi, ze on ujawnia, kto sie pod tymi nikami kryje. To
      jest bardzo nielogiczne. Albo sie podszywa, a wtedy nie ujawnia, albo ujawnia,
      a to znaczy, ze nie podszywa. Czyli pan jest nie tylko idiota, panie Jozefie,
      ale kto wie? Moze nawet... imbecylem?

      W zwiazku z powyzsza niepochlebna opinia mam do pana postulat, zeby sie pan
      podszyl pode mnie. Co panu szkodzi? Jeden nik mniej, jeden wiecej... Moze pan
      mojego nika wymieszac z jakims innym nikiem, czemu nie? Niech bedzie
      kreatywnie. Na przyklad niech mnie pan wymiesza z drf, to zalatwi pan dwoch
      wrogow na raz.
      • Gość: jaumre wiesz co patience? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 18.10.04, 01:10
        ja przez ciebie umre ze smiechu.
        co jak co mozesz mi wytykac i to,ze jestem kolumbem i to ze biegam z kalaszem i
        toze sie przypochlebiam ale...
        qrde...kto jak kto, ale nikt nie ma takiego poczucia humoru na forum jak ty !


        czekam na opiernicz tradycyjny.co do etyki ucze sie piiiilnieeeee.

        • Gość: orany ja juz nie mam sily IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.10.04, 01:23
          idz spac. Daj mi pozyc choc 5 minut bez twojego towarzystwa. Zadreczysz mnie na
          smierc. Idz spac, przytul sie do swojego ulubionego kalasznikowa i mu zaspiewaj
          kolysanke.
          • Gość: postscriptum I nie strasz wiecej ubekami IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.10.04, 01:31
            .. gosci ktorzy chca przyjechac na grob swojej matki i potrzebuja troche
            wsparcia duchowego zeby wstac i kupic bilet na samolot. On sie nie bedzie z
            toba turlal po krzakach na Pomorzu. Bedzie chodzil spokojnie po chodnikach,
            placil za bilety w autobusie i zwiedzal dawno nie widziana ojczyzne. Z aparatem
            fotograficznym, a nie kalasznikowem w garsci. Jest bardzo nikle
            prawdopodobienstwo ze przy takim trybie zycia natknie sie na jakas wojne
            ubeckich gangow czy jakichkolwiek szpiegow. Do Polski corocznie przyjezdza duzo
            turystow i jakos udaje im sie ta wizyte przezyc. Bardzo cie prosze.

            Dobranoc.
          • Gość: ok a z resztom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 18.10.04, 01:32
            powiem ci cos, gdybys mnie traktowala jak czlowieka mimo twych oporow, ansow
            itd
            nie biegalbym jak wariat..
            • Gość: patience Re: a z resztom IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 18.10.04, 01:59
              Uch. Alez traktuje. Nie widzisz tego, ale traktuje.
              Masz teraz umysl nakierowany w zla strone. Przyzwyczajony do latwizny i
              blyszczenia dzieki tej latwiznie. Umysl dosyc sprawny, ale rowniez dosyc...
              hm... waskotorowy. Jesli czegos z tym nie zrobisz, to wyzlobisz w nim koleiny i
              bedziesz tak jezdzic w kolko. Mistrzostwo swiata w rozwiazywaniu krzyzowek
              brzmi atrakcyjnie, ale jesli te koleiny wyzlobisz, to grozi ci, ze do konca
              zycia bedziesz rozwiazywac jedna i ta sama krzyzowke, w kolko, i w kolko. Wiele
              ludzi tak ma. Dlatego etyka, ktora byc moze doprowadzi cie na przyklad do
              empatii i jeszcze paru ciekawych miejsc. Przestaniesz swoich rozmowcow
              rozszyfrowywac, a zaczniesz ich czuc. Poza tym zauwazylam ten watek z umyslem
              zniewolonym. To jest mniej wiecej to. Myslenie o tym, co jest pod spodem.
              Niewazne czy ci mowia ze cos tam mowisz madrze, a inne glupio. Nie licza sie
              tez bledy jakie po drodze popelniasz. Chodzi o sam proces myslenia. Ale do tego
              nie potrzebujesz nikogo, a najmniej mnie. To ma byc twoje myslenie, a nie moje.
              Nie masz nikogo ani nasladowac, ani tez konstruowac swoje myslenie w
              konfrontacji z cudzym mysleniem. Swoje myslenie musisz znalezc w sobie. Dlatego
              nie jestem dla ciebie dobrym towarzystwem, bo predzej czy pozniej zaczniesz
              albo nasladowac, albo sie ode mnie odbijac. A chodzi o to, zebys poskrobal w
              swojej glowie i od niej sie odbil. To trudniejsze niz te twoje zagadki. Ale za
              to skutki sa przyjemniejsze. Lepszym towarzystwem jest w tej chwili Danutka,
              ktora i tak cie znalazla w tym watku. Ona pisze cos w rodzaju poezji, i jej
              postow sie nie da 'rozszyfrowac'. Jej sposob pisania zmusza do czucia. I o to
              wlasnie chodzi. Naucz sie czuc. Nic wiecej ze mnie nie wydobedziesz, bo nic
              wiecej po prostu nie ma.
              • Gość: oj....... Re: a z resztom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 18.10.04, 02:21
                Patience!

                Nie masz o milonie rzczy pojecia. Czy ty rozumiesz, ze moim problemem jest
                to,ze czuje za bardzo? A rozwiazywanie pierdol jest pokazowa?

                Qrwa moze mnie opierdolisz ale napisze ci cos na gg. Mozesz nie odpowiadac.

                • Gość: ).!(Z933& manDalas IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.10.04, 00:41
                  www.abgoodwin.com/mandala/ccweb.shtml
                  What are the geometric implications of rendering mandalas with sand? (Use the
                  concepts of 'accuracy' and 'precision'.)
                  What is the relationship between the scale of a mandala and the type of
                  iconographic representation that it contains?
                  What are the primary differences between the Guhyasamaja mandala illustrated
                  above and those given by Dagyab?
                  If the mandalas shown above are two-dimensional representations of three-
                  dimensional objects, what might those objects look like?

                  ccat.sas.upenn.edu/george/mandala.html
                  charon.sfsu.edu/MANDALA/EVMANDALA.HTMLwink
      • Gość: Józef Kruszyna patience jak zwykle nie wie co szczeka IP: 210.212.6.* 20.10.04, 01:01
        imbecyl to dla niej wieksze upośledzenie niż idiota. Otóż robaczku, gdybyś była
        imbecylką, co mnie byłaś łaskawa przypisać, nie broniłabyś takiej kanalii jak
        cees. Ale Ty, wielce szanowna jesteś tylko idiotką , a to największe z
        możliwych upośledzenie umysłowe. Całą swoja "twórczoscia" je potwierdzasz.
        Haha. Co za towarzystwo niedouków szemranych. Haha. Fuj
        • Gość: dr FrÖid Przepraszam w imieniu mego Imiennika... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 01:12
          Józef kto cie wypuscil z izolatki?
          SchizOOfrenia to nie zarty...Psy&koza cie ZJADA !!!

          ............

          pani salowa pomocy...
          wink
          • Gość: Józef Swoje słabości projektujesz Kurczaczku Forumowy IP: 210.212.6.* 20.10.04, 01:17
            • Gość: Jozek a ty Twoja potencje Kogutka ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 01:23
              wink))
              • Gość: pocztagazeta Re: a ty Twoja potencje Kogutka ? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 01:25
                zajrzyj:
                poczta.gazeta.pl/poczta/0,46200.html
                • Gość: j0e 666exualne psy& kozy? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 01:35
                  le SB IDealizmInkoGnozis?

                  arystoTatarians?
                  • Gość: no COTY Re: 666exualne psy& kozy? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 01:50
                    absolutnie nie.
                    to po prostu tozsamosc nr III smile

                    pozwala odpoczac. po prostu.
                    • zupagrzybowa po3jenieJazni? 20.10.04, 02:15
                      a gdzie tozsamosc?
                      crying
                      • Gość: bonnequestion Re: po3jenieJazni? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 02:22
                        A to bardzo dobre pytanie, tez sie nad tym zastanawiam.
                        jazni to zbyt moco uzyte slowo.ja bym tu uzyla slowa osobowosc.

                        luknij w skrzynke.
                        • zupagrzybowa osobliwosci markiza de 20.10.04, 02:41
                          nie stac cie na odrobine zdRoweGo exhiBiZionizmu?
                          wink))
                          • Gość: heh Re: osobliwosci markiza de IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 02:55
                            de quoi ???

                            w kazydm razie raz juz postawilem na EXhi,hiBIcjonizm
                            i wyszedlem na tym jak Zaw..., tfu Zablocki na mydle....
                            • Gość: spaaaaac ide IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 02:59
                              jutro niestety nietypowa niezwykla nienormalna nieprzewidziana nieciekawa
                              niewesola pobudka o 8.30....FU!
                              przeciez o 8.30 to ja codziennie mam randke z Morfeuszem....



                          • Gość: deTERMINATOR oR9iaZadoMaZooHicznaPu8liczna? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 02:59
                            www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/gslinks.htm
                            www.driveyourselfsane.com/gsarticles/gsarticles.html
                            wink

                            Rozjasnij pu8licznie please

                            dRF
                            • Gość: po co publicznie? Re: oR9iaZadoMaZooHicznaPu8liczna? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 03:05
                              w ksiazce bedzie he he smile
                              a wychodzi niedluuuugo!!!!!!!!!!
                              wiec bedzie publicznie, tu tego na tym nie zarobie.

                              grunt to dobry geszeft smile nie wiesz?

                            • Gość: a widzisz ze spie? Re: oR9iaZadoMaZooHicznaPu8liczna? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 03:10
                              myslalem,ze mam rozjasnic publicznie kwestie PSY - KOZY,czy tez ZOO Or^ii
                              a chcesz zebym te linki rozjasnij?
                              ok DRF nie oplaca sie isc spac ide zaparzyc zatem kawy i rozjasnie te
                              linki,ktore podales!

                              • Gość: SpijNaJawie DOBRANOC POLSKO! IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 03:24
                                ujawnienie ma7Rixu 8liskie...
                                wink

                                ps!holy9ia?
                            • Gość: dobranoc ...padlem a jednak sen IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 03:28
                              zrobilem kawe...ale chyba jednak sie poloze,ale zajme sie dzisiaj problemem
                              zdrowej i chorej semantyki.

                              wiesz DRF, atwiej sie poklocic na forum albo na czacie..
                              i to nie dlatego ze nie znamy rozmowcy.
                              kilkadziesiat procent tego co do nas dociera w czasie rozmowy pochodzi z
                              przekazu pozawerbalnego. Nie wiedzac rozmowcy, nie slyszac tonu jego glosu, ba
                              nawet go nie czujac latwiej jest popelnic pomylki.
                              Bo dla kazdego dane slowo kojarzy sie inaczej.

                              Da sie rozmawiac bez slow prawda?
                              Niektore zwierzeta tak rozmawiaja...


            • Gość: !!!!!!!! Do Jozefa Zawadzkiego IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 01:29
              Panie Jozefie,

              Bardzo prosze bez przepychanek.Znam tego Pana od lat, nie rozmawialismy kilka
              lat i chcialbym z nim pogadac.
              Prosze mi na to pozwolic. Jest Pan przeciez osoba kulturalna i wyksztalcona tak
              wiec mysle,ze moja prosba nie sprawi panu zadnego wiekszego problemu.

              Marian Borutowski
    • vvvatto Re: --------------------AQUANET------------------ 19.10.04, 00:31




      /\
      \-
      /
      • drf a-p-p-l-e. 19.10.04, 23:04
        Alfred Korzybski (pronounced "Kahshibski") was born July 3, 1879, in Warsaw,
        Poland, to wealthy, aristocratic parents. By his teenage years he could speak
        four languages
        • drf a-p-p-l-eTS 19.10.04, 23:18
          www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/akbio.htm
          In reporting his death, The American Journal of Psychiatry (May 1950)
          stated, "The death of this great teacher ... deepens appreciation of his
          essential contribution to human understanding, on an individual, widely social,
          or international scale."



          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

          This biography was written by Steven Lewis (1995, revised 2004) using
          information provided in part from a larger biography written by Korzybski's co-
          worker, M. Kendig, and printed in the third issue of the General Semantics
          Bulletin, Spring 1950.

          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Alfred Korzybski's writings:
          Manhood of Humanity, 1921, 2nd edition 1950, lviii + 326 pages.
          Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General
          Semantics, 1933, 5th edition 1994, c + 806 pages.
          General Semantics Seminar Given at Olivet College, 1937, 2nd edition 1964, viii
          + 96 pages.
          Collected Writings: 1920-1950, 1st edition, 1990. Edited by M. Kendig. xxv +
          915 pages. (Includes all of Korzybski's journal articles and some
          correspondence.)
        • Gość: :) Re: a-p-p-l-e. IP: *.acn.waw.pl 19.10.04, 23:48
          ciekawe bardzo. facet jest jednym tych,ktorzy dali podstawy do NLP

          luknij na ten link doksmile

          www.forumakad.pl/archiwum/98/3/artykuly/24-esej.htm
          no i na to smile

          Mapa to nie terytorium.
          Jako istoty ludzkie nigdy nie możemy poznać rzeczywistości. Możemy jedynie
          poznać naszą percepcję rzeczywistości. Doświadczamy i reagujemy na świat
          głównie poprzez nasze zmysłowe systemy reprezentacji. Jest to
          nasza "neurolingwistyczna" mapa rzeczywistości, która determinuje nasze
          zachowania oraz sposób nadawania tym zachowaniom znaczeń, a nie rzeczywistość
          jako taką. Generalnie to nie rzeczywistość nas ogranicza lub wzmacnia, lale
          nasza mapa rzeczywistości.
          2. Życie i "umysł" są procesami systemowymi.
          Proces jaki dzieje się wewnątrz istot ludzkich i pomiędzy ludźmi a ich
          środowiskiem jest systemowy. Nasze ciała, społeczeństwa, nasz wszechświat są
          złożonymi systemami i podsystemami, które wpływają na siebie nawzajem w sposób
          naturalny. Nie ma możliwości kompletnego wyizolowania jakiejkolwiek części
          systemu od reszty tego systemu. Takie systemy opierają się na pewnych
          samoorganizujących się zasadach i w naturalny sposób dążą do optymalnych stanów
          równowagi lub homeostazy.
          3. Na pewnym poziomie wszystkie zachowania mają pozytywną intencję.
          Oznacza to, że istnieje lub istniał odpowiedni kontekst, w którym to
          zachowanie jest właściwe z punkty widzenia osoby, która je przejawia. Ludzie
          dokonują najlepszych wyborów spośród wszystkich dostępnych w ramach ich
          aktualnej mapy rzeczywistości. Każde zachowanie niezależnie od tego jak złe,
          szalone, dziwne może się wydawać - jest najlepszym z możliwych wyborem danej
          osoby w tym momencie czasu.
          4. Prawo koniecznej różnorodności.
          W teorii systemów istnieje zasada nazywana prawem koniecznej
          różnorodności, która mówi o tym, że aby przystosować się i przetrwać - element
          systemu potrzebuje pewnej minimalnej dawki elastyczności. Ta dawka
          elastyczności musi być proporcjonalna do zmienności reszty systemu. Jedną z
          implikacji prawa koniecznej różnorodności jest to, że jeśli chcesz osiągnąć
          określony cel, to musisz zwiększyć ilość operacji, które prowadzą do celu,
          proporcjonalnie do stopnia w jakim zmienia się system. Istotne jest, aby wraz
          ze zmianami w systemie, zmieniać swoje działania zorientowane na cel, a nie
          tylko powtarzać stare działania nawet jeśli w przeszłości dawały one pożądany
          rezultat. Ponieważ środowiska i konteksty, w których działamy zmieniają się,
          więc te same procedury nie zawsze będą dawały te same rezultaty. Jeśli chcesz
          osiągnąć swój cel musisz zmienić sposoby dotarcia do niego. Jeśli zawsze
          używasz tej samej procedury, za każdym razem uzyskasz inny wynik. A więc im
          system bardziej złożony tym więcej wymaga elastyczności. Inną implikacją prawa
          koniecznej różnorodności jest to, że ta część systemu, która jest najbardziej
          elastyczna ma największy wpływ na cały system.


          • drf I see the grass as green 20.10.04, 00:15
            "The Grass is Green."
            Written 1996 by Steven Lewis (lewis@pennvalley.cc.mo.us)
            Korzybski built his system on an empirically demonstrable generalization, non-
            identity, which in my teachings I refer to as the principle of individuality.
            We can define this principle as "no two situations, parts of situations,
            persons or stages of processes are the same in all details."

            Although we may live in a world of individuality, our nervous systems seek
            generality. We abstract. Often times, though, we confuse the various orders of
            abstraction produced by our nervous systems. We confuse the object level with
            the process level, we confuse the map with the territory, we confuse the
            inference with the description, we confuse the word with a specific
            meaning .... These various confusions of the orders of abstractions Korzybski
            called "identification." To identify to Korzybski meant to not differentiate
            enough ... to overevaluate by generality (intension), underevaluate by
            individuality (extension).

            Korzybski's prescription was to train oneself to properly evaluate the
            different orders of abstraction. He was not advocating the abolition of
            generalizations, as some have suggested. He wanted us to evaluate a map as a
            map, and not as the territory it could at best only represent. We would not
            confuse the objective level with the process level, nor the descriptive level
            with the object level, nor the verbal level with the semantic level, nor the
            inferential level with the descriptive level ....

            Korzybski's interest in modifying our language arose from his empirically
            demonstrable belief that our daily language habits often grossly misrepresent
            the structure of our world as revealed by 20th century science, and may
            therefore lead us to confuse the orders of abstraction. In the case of "the
            grass is green," Korzybski's concern would be that the statement does not
            remind the individual that the greenness s/he sees is a joint interaction of a
            person and their environment. Instead, the form of the statement isolates the
            observer from the observed, in effect unconsciously projecting the observer's
            abstractions onto the world outside.

            To better map our world we could say "I see the grass as green." Here the
            observer and observed are united. Such a statement may reflect a degree of
            consciousness of abstracting, an understanding that what we see "out there" is
            a product of a unique nervous system responding to unique stimuli. This higher
            consciousness may permit a person to be more tolerant of others who may see
            and/or label the grass some other color.

            ..........................

            Korzybski recognized in the 1920s the significance of macromolecules and
            molecular aggregates and their surface charges and configurations for
            understanding biological functions. His chapter on colloidal behavior
            in "Science and Sanity" attempted to relay this significance to our daily
            evaluations and thereby refocus our orientation from static macroscopic to
            dynamic submicroscopic levels of organization.

            According to Evans and Wennerstrom:

            "Living systems are made up largely of proteins, polyelectrolytes and
            amphiphilic molecules contained in an aqueous medium. By their very size, such
            molecules possess colloidal properties. More importantly, they self-assemble
            into a great variety of organized structures that perform extremely
            sophisticated chemical transformations. Life processes involve the control and
            transformation of colloidal assemblies, and many diseases are associated with
            malfunctions at the colloidal level. The new level of knowledge made available
            by colloidal science has considerably enhanced our understanding of interaction
            forces that control biological processes." (introduction, page 37)

            www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/loeb.htm
            www.kcmetro.cc.mo.us/pennvalley/biology/lewis/racism.htm
            • Gość: dr ID a Ja widze trawe jako zielen IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 03:06
              ja widze mowe jako trawe jako zielen.
              dr ida
              • Gość: a wiesz co? Re: Ja widze trawe jako zielen IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 03:08
                ja teraz niedowidze, bo jestem bardzo,bardzo spiacy!

                a co do mowy trawy bardzo ciekawy temat psychologiczny ale o tym jutro smile

                nie zapomnij o skrytce pocztowejsmile

                • Gość: dr FrÖid 9ra w pocz7e IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.10.04, 03:33
                  nie 9Ram w skrytki pocztowecrying

                  czekam na pu8liczne illuminacje...wink

                  www.pcug.org.au/~ajames/AGSLCGuide.htm#
                  • zupagrzybowa COMMuNICATING....?-) 20.10.04, 11:18
                    1.imPortaNce of coMMunicaing
                    2.deFiniTions
                    3.Form of communicatinG in Business
                    z.Model of CommUnicaTion PRocess
                    s.EFFecTive inTerPeRsonal CommuNication
                    .........................................

                    www.barcharts.com/default.asp?page=chart_details&sku=508-4
                    www.barcharts.com/default.asp?page=charts&ca=ACA-D&d=academic
                    • Gość: patience Re: COMMuNICATING....?-) IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 20.10.04, 11:57
                      > 1.imPortaNce of coMMunicaing
                      > 2.deFiniTions
                      > 3.Form of communicatinG in Business
                      > z.Model of CommUnicaTion PRocess
                      > s.EFFecTive inTerPeRsonal CommuNication

                      reason of communicating
                      pleasure of communicating
                      sharing
                      creating
                      forgiving
                      freeing
                      derIDis4ing...wink

                      ps.
                      titta!
                      • Gość: civilSocietyWrocla Wiceburmistrz Wąsocza pił piwko na skwerku... IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 20.10.04, 14:58
                        Wiceburmistrz Wąsosza pił piwo w piątek na skwerku przy ulicy Szewskiej z
                        kolegami. Jako ze pic piwka na skwerku nie mozna, to trzymal je w kieszeni, od
                        czasu do czasu wyciagal... i pociagal. Policjanci to pociaganie zauwazyli i
                        przyszli go wylegitymowac. Wiceburmistrz zamaszyscie wyciągnął piwo z kieszeni,
                        zeby dostać się do dowodu osobistego. Ale jak piwo wyciągnął, to za nim
                        pociągnął woreczek z marysią, której było 6 porcji. Aczkolwiek twierdzi, ze
                        pociągnął tylko piwo, a marysi już nie, bo ona sobie niewinnie leżała na ziemi
                        półtora metra od niego. Wiceburmistrzowi grozi wyrok do 3 lat więzienia za
                        posiadanie narkotyków. Burmistrz Wąsocza ze stoickim spokojem odniósł się do
                        problemu lewitacji woreczka z marysią i wyraził zgodę, aby wiceburmistrz dalej
                        pracował na swym stanowisku, póki się nie wyjaśni, kto i za co pociągał.
                        miasta.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35751,2345736.html

                        Reszta kraju:

                        Znany lobbysta zostanie w areszcie
                        IAR 20-10-2004, ostatnia aktualizacja 20-10-2004 14:15

                        Znany lobbysta Marek D., właściciel spółki Triton Holding stanowiącej część
                        Larchmont Group nie wyjdzie z aresztu - postanowił łódzki sąd. Grażyna Jeżewska
                        z biura prasowego Sądu Okręgowego w Łodzi poinformowała, że sąd utrzymał areszt
                        mimo proponowanej kaucji w wysokości dwóch milionów złotych.

                        "Sąd podzielił zdanie prokuratury, że izolacja podejrzanego na tym etapie
                        postępowania jest niezbędna"- dodała.

                        Marek D. został aresztowany pod koniec września. Łódzka Prokuratura Apelacyjna
                        zarzuca mu oraz jego asystentowi - byłemu posłowi KPN, Krzysztofowi P. -
                        udzielenie jednemu z posłów obecnej kadencji korzyści osobistej i majątkowej.
                      • zupagrzybowa bin Ladin w Chinach ??? 20.10.04, 15:54
                        http://www.danmahony.com/binladen1.htm

                        "China is mounting a huge crackdown in the remote western province of Xinjiang
                        against what it says are terrorist elements linked to Osama Bin Ladin Oct. 7,
                        2002."

                        "Al-Qaeda ('The Base') is a conglomerate of groups spread throughout the world
                        operating as a network. It has a global reach, with a presence in Algeria,
                        Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Xinjiang in
                        China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mindanao in the
                        Philippines, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya,
                        Tunisia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagestan, Kashmir, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya,
                        Tanzania, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Uganda, Ethiopia, and in the West Bank and Gaza
                        liveindia.com."

                        CHINESE AMMUNITION FOUND IN AGHANISTAN CAVES—"Pentagon officials aboard the
                        plane taking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to Brussels revealed [that]
                        large quantities of Chinese-manufactured ammunition were discovered in the Tora
                        Bora cave hideouts of Osama bin Laden worldnetdaily, 2001." BIN LADEN - CHINA
                        DEALS IN 1998—"The British daily Guardian said in its Saturday's issue that
                        China had paid millions of USD to Osama Bin Laden in order to get the US- made
                        Cruise missiles, which did not explode after their launching at Afghanistan
                        three years ago by the American forces arabicnews, Oct., 2001."


                        —Said one Chinese observer, "We need to side with America for strategic
                        reasons at least in public. Yet we think that the United States is our long-
                        term enemy. It is just not right to say it now (expired)." "Russia, China,
                        Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, and other states we [US] are embracing
                        as 'allies' against terrorism have been the prime sponsors of terrorism for
                        decades and have been key supporters of bin Laden and his extended network up
                        to the present times thenewamerican, Dec. 31, 2001."


                        "Perhaps China hopes that befriending bin Laden will ensure that the weapons
                        will be used only against Western enemies. But it cannot be sure
                        jamestown.org."

                        Reporter Hamaid Mir, "known for his close contacts with Osama bin
                        Laden...source," was taken blindfolded to interview bin Laden on Nov. 8: "...it
                        was somewhere in the mountains, he believed north of Kabul. He said it was very
                        cold...being driven for five hours to an unknown destination. He said when he
                        got there, he could hear gunfire going on in the background...more of a mud
                        hutch than a cave source." "I believe it was a deception," Mir told
                        Reuters. "Actually he is not fighting in the north of Afghanistan, he is
                        fighting somewhere else, maybe in the south. But he decided to give the
                        interview to me in the north so that when I went back to Pakistan, I would tell
                        people it was in the north source."

                        THE CHINA-PAKISTAN CONNECTION—"On 21st May 1951, China and Pakistan established
                        diplomatic ties. From then on, China and Pakistan have been enjoying a good
                        neighborly relationship and mutual beneficial cooperation on the bases of the
                        Five Principles of Peaceful Co-existence. In 1980's, the leadership of China
                        and Pakistan exchanged visits frequently. The international situation went
                        through great changes in 1990's but the time-tested Sino-Pakistani friendship
                        and cooperation withstood all international vicissitudes and continued to march
                        forward source."

                        ESCAPE THROUGH PAKISTAN DATA & MAPS—"Nowadays most traffic on the Karakoram
                        Highway consists of tourists and hajjis--Muslims making a pilgrimage to Mecca--
                        but small-scale trade has revived as well. Pakistani businessmen come to
                        Kashgar [China] source."

                        "The absence of the fourteen kilometre road that precedes the western side of
                        the town of Karimabad. It is an old tarmac road that winds through several
                        villages. This road is not shown on any map! Karakoram 1." Karakoram 2


                        --------------------
                        • zupagrzybowa umowa o extradycji binLadena przed 2.11.2004 ? 20.10.04, 16:20
                          www.danmahony.com/binladen1.htm
                          • Gość: drPat Ben Laden Cotton Fields of War IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 20.10.04, 19:15
                            The Strategy of Exit

                            Quiet wait
                            In the white
                            Covered with cotton flowers
                            On the route
                            To the sky
                      • drf ....COMMuNICATING...wi7h bug 22.10.04, 01:25

                        1. At the same time it is possible to analyse the cascade energetics, with
                        antienthropic and enthropic branches, some characterising better energy saving
                        behaviors. This is also related to selforganized serial subcascades at the
                        whole cycle of behaviors. It is not always so. There appear environmental
                        situations in which the bug is condemned to starving if it follows the minimal
                        energy policy.


                        2. The bug begins with a free behavior, 00000, a straight linear gait with no
                        random bursts whatsoever. The behavioral sequence, afterwards, starts mainly
                        with 00001, which imply the appearance of a wandering gait, with small
                        incomplete clockwise and counterclockwise turns, interrupted when one of the
                        bug's antennae tactile sensors detects an obstacle. So this triggers an edge-
                        following gait, 00010, enslaving half of the previous wandering gait. The
                        random bursts appear and show only if the body angle goes towards the edge, and
                        the normal 00010 behavior is given priority. If the environment presents a
                        convex obstacle, the bug recoils and follows the previous general orientation.
                        This recoil is not detected by any of the five selected neurons. Nevertheless,
                        it certainly is a distinct behavior which should be added outside of the main
                        list.


                        3. Simulating evolutive inherited behaviors, with some exceptions, the bug does
                        not remain in the food patch zone for a long time. On the contrary, when the
                        bug "feels satisfied" or senses the neural correlate of this situation, there
                        is an energy saving switch and it runs away, including situations in which food
                        is below its mouth. The arousal to exit subcascade is, in this last case,
                        11010/01010/11010, a locomotion slow/fast phase transition, nothing to do with
                        the main sequence, Fig. 3. The most frequent slow/fast exiting subcascade means
                        just 11010/10010/0000x series, with 10010 as a short happening, sometimes
                        unseen. What one sees at the screen is that the two bug's antennae emerge out
                        of the food patch as a signal that the locomotion phase transition will show
                        during the next seconds.


                        4. The arousal to exit subcascade is related to the energy sensor (name for a
                        chemical detector of high/low serotonine internal levels if the bug shold have
                        metabolism). As is, each mouth movement increases energy and each single leg
                        movement cycle decreases it. The alarm condition, when the level falls below a
                        threshold value, connects again the command to search for food (neuron SC
                        triggers to frecuency 1): the behavior is now 00110. When bioenergy decays, it
                        justifies a new odor oriented 01110 behavior, which drags the bug towards the
                        food patch when no obstacles interfere (this is one of the much studied m o t i
                        v a t e d behaviors, when the bug feels hunger and exhibits at the same time an
                        arousal subcascade of behaviors, with an energetic driving force strongly
                        related to survival [Beer, p. 126]). If there is an obstacle, the bug circles
                        it, as previously explained.


                        5. This often means that the bug is walking in the same direction as the
                        negative odor gradient, instead of following the normal, but now left behind,
                        positive odor gradient. This, studied a posteriori, suggests a distinct
                        adaptive behavior, specifically related to the environment. On other
                        environments and with some of the 480 parameters differently valued, this
                        strange behavior does not show up. It may seem strange, but a posteriori it
                        appears as the best way to delay death. If all its bioenergy is lost in a two
                        way pendular motion among both sides of the place of maximum odor, no other
                        fate happens.

                        6. Afterwards, with the obstacle left at the side, the bug's chemical sensors
                        at both antennae activate the FO neuron and now the behavior is 01110. The bug,
                        with SC firing, searches for food with his pair of antennae odor sensors

                        www.opoka.org.pl/biblioteka/I/IK/zwolinski-slowo-04.html#250
                        wink
                        • Gość: pluskwa.... Re: ....COMMuNICATING...wi7h bug IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 01:45
                          to chwile potrawie, bo mam problemy z tlumaczeniem smile

                          trochenieznanychSÓWalefajnewyzwaniesmile
                  • Gość: heh Re: 9ra w pocz7e IP: *.acn.waw.pl 20.10.04, 18:33
                    szkodasmile
                    wpadlem tylko na moment mam chwilowo dosc rzeczywistosi wirtualnej.
                    ide se poczytac,ukladac liste gosci,co prawda jeszcze zostalo ponad dwa tyg.
                    itp itd.
                    urodziny mamy prawie razem i ja i moja druga polowa smile



                    • Gość: ehh ;( : 9ra iluzji.... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.10.04, 01:30
                      rozczarowanie.. .... bierzesz lekko swoje obietnice...crying((
                      • Gość: lilac Re: : 9ra iluzji....- dzien bez czy bzu ? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.10.04, 02:00
                        dopiero zaczalem czytac polecane przez ciebie linki,mialem dzis dzien latania
                        po bankach i szarpania sie z Urzedem Skarbowym o PITY 4 smile
                        a potem nie mialem na nic sily poza siedzeniem na kanapie i czytaniem
                        pierdolek...
                        jednak uwazam,ze do zabrania glosu bede gotowy nie wczesniej niz w piatek smile
                        jutro musze odetchnac po prostu smile

                        marze o dniu bez kompa, bez komorek, bez faxow, bez pukania do drzwi,po prostu
                        marze o dniu bez !

                        <piekny bez dla ciebie na dobranoc>


                        • Gość: ok ReLaKS IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.10.04, 02:07
                          ....
                          na luzie
                          wink

                          • Gość: tak tak a jak... Re: ReLaKS IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.10.04, 02:13
                            przypomniala mi sie piosenka z Polskiego ZOO...
                            tyle tu bylo o psy,kozach,kogucikach na druciku...

                            Dzien uplynal w menazerii idzie nowy a my z nim
                            wsrod dewiacji i histerii
                            smiech potrzebny jest jak klin
                            skojarzenia to przeklenstwo
                            wiec mozemy dzis dac glowe
                            jakiekolwiek podobienstwo
                            bylo czysto przypadkowe...

                            wszystkie łosie maja w nosie
                            zubr poplakal sie jak bobr
                            z dzika wlasnie wyszlo prosie
                            chor padalcow w roli kur
                            piszczy w trawie lub brzmi w trzcinie
                            sieja burze albo mak
                            wydarzenia i opinie
                            a czasemi nawet tak....
                            oj tak.... tak tak....
                            • Gość: mena"zer"ia Re: ReLaKS IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.10.04, 02:16
                              jak juz jestesmy przy menazerii....

                              forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=16893498
                              • Gość: jakrelaksto... Re: ReLaKS ja relaks to : IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.10.04, 02:29
                                sie pochwale: menazieriom tich ras :
                                www.sibcatclub.prv.pl/
                                www.breedlist.com/cornish-rex-breeders.html
                                www.koty.pl/home/rasy/index.php?show=syjam
                                dogoargentino.hyperlink.cz/vstupangl.htm
                                a w ogole Doktorze czytales o tym ?taki syndromik ? ( znam z 10 osob z tym
                                problemme niesety....)

                                Dog/Cat collector ?

                                Kiedys czytalam materialy przygotowane przez SPCA na temat kolekcjonerow
                                zwierzat (cat/dog collector).
                                Kolekcjonerzy zwierzat to osoby cierpiace na zespol obsesyjno-kompulsyjny.
                                Materialy SPCA byly czyms w rodzaju poradnika jak rozpoznac i jak postepowac z
                                kolekcjonerami kotow lub psow.
                                Wedlug tego poradnika kolekcjonera mozna poznac po tym, ze: ma duzo kotow, psow
                                i nadal stale ich przybywa, zwierzate sa zaniedbane, nie sa leczone,
                                kolekcjoner unika weterynarzy, nie pozwala na przeprowadzanei zadnych zabiegow
                                na zwierzetach i nie zgodzi sie na uspienie zadnego ze swoich kotow nawet gdyby
                                zwierze bardzo cierpialo i nigdy nikomu nie odda zadnego ze swoich zwierzat.
                                Kolekcjoner dazy do tego, aby posiadac jak najwiecej zwierzat.
                                Poniewaz jest to choroba psychiczna straszenie, zalatwianie po dobroci,
                                szantazownie, grozenie itd. nie zmieni postepowania osoby chorej. Wedlug SPCA z
                                taka osoba nie mozna sie dogadac ani uzgodnic czegokolwiek. SPCA zaleca
                                zabieranie zwierzat i pomoc osobie chorej w rozpoczeciu leczenia
                                psychiatrycznego (zgloszenie soby do opieki spolecznej, szpitala, pielegniarki
                                srodowiskowej itp. )






                                • Gość: HumanAnimal Cat-Dog collector? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.10.04, 23:39
                                  .... z powodu braku ludzkiego towarzystwa ?
                                  wink
                                  • Gość: Dzien bez trwa.... Re: Cat-Dog collector? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 00:27
                                    Wpadlem tylko na moment, bo dzisiaj mam dzien beznetowy, bezkomorkowy... dzien
                                    bezsmile
                                    Czytam sobie "Tylko ja sama" Romy Ligockiej,oderwac sie nie moge -
                                    bo...hmm...David Shwartz ( przed chwila zaczelam czytac wiec dotarlem dopiero
                                    do 126 str ) kogos mi przypominasmile
                                    Ponadto spiesze doniesc,ze mialem wybitnie udana randke, dostalem przedwczesny
                                    prezent urodzinowy,prawie nie odbieralem telefonow - no moze ze szesc z
                                    drukarni...
                                    smile

                                    na szczescie dog/cat nie odnosi sie do mnie smile
                                    a moja menazeria jest az nadto zsocjalizowana.
                                    i zadbana.
                                    ( Puder dla SIB kosztuje wiecej niz dezodorant Oxygene Lanvina smile
                                    W kazdym razie poczyniles sluszna uwage, poniewaz z moich obserwacji wynika (
                                    to tylko moje obserwacje ),ze kolekcjonerem zostaja przede wszystkim samotne
                                    panie w wieku od 30 w zwyz. To 80 proc.kolekcjonerow.
                                    Nie spotkalem sie jeszcze z mezatka - kolekcjonerem.
                                    No moze byla mezatka Villas,ktora jest doskonala ilustracja owego syndromu.
                                    No ale suma sumarum rowniez teraz samotna osoba.A wiesz jak skonczylo sie jej
                                    schronisko i dzialalnosc ? Pieski odebrane,zaglodzone,
                                    zawszone,chore,zaniedbane.Zadatki na DCC. ma rowniez niejaka Bardot smile
                                    Ponadto DCC jest zdaje sie udzialem samotnych mezczyzn rowniez. Czesto z
                                    problemami alkoholowymi, po przejsciach itd.

                                    Jesli chcesz postududiowac przypadek takiej osoby podam ci linka. Wypisz
                                    wymaluj dog/cat collector.
                                    • drf The Marvelous Land of Oz 18.11.04, 00:16
                                      forum.nie.com.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1228
    • Gość: colka Re: --------------------AQUANET------------------ IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 21.10.04, 02:47
      CH0J, QRWA, P1ERD0LIĆ Aquanet
      • Gość: QrwaNet? wy colka Pi ER D0 LCIE... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.10.04, 23:54

        se na zdrowie...

        qrwaNet!?

        www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=kurwa&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta=
        wink
        • Gość: cs138 Re: wy colka Pi ER D0 LCIE... IP: *.chello.pl 22.10.04, 00:49
          O CO DO JASNEJ CHODZI W TYM WĄTKU??????
          • Gość: perla: a to perelka : IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 00:54
            www.general-semantics.org/
            choinka jak to znalazlem opusilem moja ligocka!


            cs138- alarm do wszytkich. Goniec zagraza wiezy. Roszada ?
            ___TO___AQUANET____CZYLI_____SANATORIUM!
            • Gość: do ceesa138 do ceesa IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 00:59
              Witam !

              To po prostu Aquanet - wypierze wszystko...razem z kieszenia smile

              Co do gonca i wiezy? Gra Pan/Pani moze w szachy ?
              Jesli tak co lepsze?
              Otwarcie sycylijskie? Czy ruch pionem ?




              • Gość: cs139 Re: do ceesa IP: *.chello.pl 22.10.04, 01:14
                aha big_grin big_grin big_grin
                • drf alegoria 22.10.04, 01:35
                  ... allegory is a story with two meanings, a literal meaning and a symbolic
                  meaning....

                  faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/cave.htm
                  The Allegory of the Cave
                  Plato realizes that the general run of humankind can think, and speak, etc.,
                  without (so far as they acknowledge) any awareness of his realm of Forms.

                  The allegory of the cave is supposed to explain this.

                  In the allegory, Plato likens people untutored in the Theory of Forms to
                  prisoners chained in a cave, unable to turn their heads. All they can see is
                  the wall of the cave. Behind them burns a fire. Between the fire and the
                  prisoners there is a parapet, along which puppeteers can walk. The puppeteers,
                  who are behind the prisoners, hold up puppets that cast shadows on the wall of
                  the cave. The prisoners are unable to see these puppets, the real objects,
                  that pass behind them. What the prisoners see and hear are shadows and echoes
                  cast by objects that they do not see. Here is an illustration of Plato's Cave:




                  Such prisoners would mistake appearance for reality. They would think the
                  things they see on the wall (the shadows) were real; they would know nothing of
                  the real causes of the shadows.

                  So when the prisoners talk, what are they talking about? If an object (a book,
                  let us say) is carried past behind them, and it casts a shadow on the wall, and
                  a prisoner says "I see a book," what is he talking about?
                  He thinks he is talking about a book, but he is really talking about a shadow.
                  But he uses the word "book." What does that refer to?


                  Plato gives his answer at line (515b2). The text here has puzzled many editors,
                  and it has been frequently emended. The translation in Grube/Reeve gets the
                  point correctly:
                  "And if they could talk to one another, don't you think they'd suppose that the
                  names they used applied to the things they see passing before them?"

                  Plato's point is that the prisoners would be mistaken. For they would be taking
                  the terms in their language to refer to the shadows that pass before their
                  eyes, rather than (as is correct, in Plato's view) to the real things that cast
                  the shadows.
                  If a prisoner says "That's a book" he thinks that the word "book" refers to the
                  very thing he is looking at. But he would be wrong. He's only looking at a
                  shadow. The real referent of the word "book" he cannot see. To see it, he would
                  have to turn his head around.


                  Plato's point: the general terms of our language are not "names" of the
                  physical objects that we can see. They are actually names of things that we
                  cannot see, things that we can only grasp with the mind.

                  When the prisoners are released, they can turn their heads and see the real
                  objects. Then they realize their error. What can we do that is analogous to
                  turning our heads and seeing the causes of the shadows? We can come to grasp
                  the Forms with our minds.

                  Plato's aim in the Republic is to describe what is necessary for us to achieve
                  this reflective understanding. But even without it, it remains true that our
                  very ability to think and to speak depends on the Forms. For the terms of the
                  language we use get their meaning by "naming" the Forms that the objects we
                  perceive participate in.

                  The prisoners may learn what a book is by their experience with shadows of
                  books. But they would be mistaken if they thought that the word "book" refers
                  to something that any of them has ever seen.
                  Likewise, we may acquire concepts by our perceptual experience of physical
                  objects. But we would be mistaken if we thought that the concepts that we grasp
                  were on the same level as the things we perceive.
                  wink
                  • Gość: allos+agoreueín.. Re: aqua - alegoria IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 01:41
                    Ano.
                    A ?
                    alegoreza ?
                    • drf aquaGorstwo 22.10.04, 02:14

                      Alegoreza
                      - metoda interpretacji przekazów znakowych, oparta na założeniu, że poznanie
                      ich sensu musi być dwustopniowe najpierw polega ono na odczytaniu bezpośrednio
                      danego, dosłownego znaczenia, następnie zaś na odszukaniu i wydobyciu sensu
                      głębszego, ukrytego, ale najistotniejszego, którego zakomunikowanie jest celem
                      przekazu (alegoria). Interpretacja taka może być stosowana zarówno wobec
                      wypowiedzi słownych o różnym stopniu złożoności - od pojedynczych wyrazów do
                      rozbudowanych struktur narracyjno-fabularnych - jak i wobec znaków ikonicznych,
                      a nawet zjawisk naturalnych.
                      ..........
                      Język
                      A: Akcent - Akt illokucyjny - Akt lokucyjny - Akt mowy - Akt perlokucyjny -
                      Anakolut - Antonimy - Aton

                      D: Derywacja - Dialekt - Dialekt miejski - Dialektyzacja - Dialektyzm -
                      Dystynktywna cecha

                      F: Fonem - Fonetyka - Fonologia - Frazeologia - Frazeologizm - Frazes - Funkcja
                      ekspresywna wypowiedzi - Funkcja estetyczna wypowiedzi - Funkcja fatyczna
                      wypowiedzi - Funkcja impresywna wypowiedzi - Funkcja metajęzykowa wypowiedzi -
                      Funkcja poznawcza wypowiedzi - Funkcje wypowiedzi

                      G: Galicyzm - Głoska - Gramatyka

                      H: Hiperonim - Homonimy

                      I: Idiom - Iloczas - Intonacja

                      J: Język literacki - Język mówiony - Język narodowy - Język pisany - Język
                      poetycki - Język potoczny

                      L: Leksem - Leksykalizacja - Linearność znaku językowego - Lingwistyka

                      M: Morfem

                      N: Nagłos - Norma językowa - Nowomowa

                      O: Oksyton - Orientalizm

                      P: Paradygmatyczne relacje - Paroksyton - Paronimy - Performatywy - Plan
                      treści - Plan wyrażania - Polisemia - Proparoksyton - Prowincjonalizm

                      R: Równoważnik zdania

                      S: Sem - Sylaba - Synonimy - Syntagma - Syntagmatyczne relacje - System językowy

                      T: Termin

                      W: Wygłos - Wypowiedź - Wyraz

                      Z: Zdanie - Zestrój akcentowy - Zestrój intonacyjny - Znaczenie - Znak językowy


                      a teraz szyfry ?-)
                      • Gość: ano wlasnie! Re: aquaGorstwo IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 02:16
                        widzisz !

                        Alegoreza tu panuje.....
                        smile
                        • Gość: drPiXel OBRAZY MOWY... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 22.10.04, 02:30
                          Alegoria (gr. allegoria = mówienie obrazowe)
                          - pojedynczy motyw lub rozwinięty zespół motywów (sceneria, postacie,
                          wydarzenia) w utworze lit. lub dziele plastycznym, który poza znaczeniem
                          dosłownym i bezpośrednio przedstawionym ma jeszcze inne, ukryte i domyślne,
                          zwane alegorycznym. Powstaje ono na fundamencie znaczenia dosłownego, a łącząca
                          je więź ma charakter w dużym stopniu konwencjonalny, opiera się na
                          odpowiedniościach ustalonych przez (-) tradycję literacką, kulturalną,
                          religijną, ikonologiczną ((-) ikonologia), emblematyczną ((-) emblemat) itp.,
                          rzadziej zaś motywowana jest naturalnym podobieństwem, związkami przedmiotowymi
                          i zależnościami językowymi. Np. zakorzenioną w tradycji alegorią zagrożenia
                          ojczyzny jest walczący z falami okręt, jak w zakończeniu satyry I. Krasickiego
                          Świat zepsuty:

                          Wzmagają się wały,
                          Grozi burza grzmi niebo; okręt nie zatonie,
                          Majtki zgodne z żeglarzem, gdy staną w obronie;
                          A choć bezpieczniej okręt opuścić i płynąć,
                          Poczciwiej być w okręcie ocalić lub zginąć.

                          Podobnie u Słowackiego:

                          Lecz wy coście mnie znali, w podaniach przekażcie,
                          Żem dla ojczyzny sterał moje lata młode;
                          A póki okręt walczył - siedziałem na maszcie,
                          A gdy tonął - z okrętem poszedłem pod wodę...

                          (Testament mój)

                          Odczytanie znaczenia alegorycznego wymaga pewnej erudycji wychodzącej poza
                          prostą znajomość języka bądź umiejętność rozpoznawania przedstawionych na
                          obrazie treści. Skonwencjonalizowany charakter a. odróżnia ją od symbolu,
                          będącego również znakiem o dwupoziomowej strukturze semantycznej, ale nie tyle
                          obliczonym na erudycję odbiorcy i opanowaną przez niego znajomość reguł
                          odczytywania ukrytych sensów, ile każdorazowo apelującym do jego inwencji
                          znaczeniotwórczej, a w rezultacie przekazującym znaczenia trudniej uchwytne i
                          bardziej zindywidualizowane niż znaczenia alegoryczne. Konwencjonalizacja
                          symbolu zbliża go do a. Przeciwstawienie a. i symbolu związane jest z
                          narodzinami estetyki romantycznej (J. W. Goethe, F. Schlegel, S. I. Coleridge).
                          Zakres znaczeń alegorycznych nie jest z góry ograniczony, niemniej jednak
                          wyraźna jest szczególna predyspozycja a. do przedstawiania w zmysłowej formie
                          pojęć abstrakcyjnych, zazwyczaj za pomocą ujęć personifikujących
                          (personifikacja, prozopopeja). W ten sposób przedstawienia obrazowe służą
                          wykładowi treści abstrakcyjnych moralistycznych, filozoficznych, religijnych.
                          A. Lit. odwołuje się często do wyobrażeń utrwalonych przez sztuki plastyczne.
                          Licznie wydawane w XVI i XVII w. albumy opatrzonych komentarzami słownymi
                          alegorycznych ilustracji zawierały całe serie uporządkowanych tematycznie
                          obrazów przedstawiających np. poszczególne cnoty, umiejętności, zmysły ludzkie,
                          kategorie estetyczne itp. Skodyfikowały one, także na użytek literatury, bogaty
                          słownik alegorycznych wyobrażeń, odgrywający do dzisiaj istotną rolę w
                          europejskiej tradycji kulturalnej. Np. w jednym z pierwszych wielkich zbiorów
                          takich alegorycznych wizerunków (Iconologia C. Ripy, 1593) poezja przedstawiona
                          była jako kobieta w laurowym wieńcu, z odsłoniętą nabrzmiałą piersią,
                          trzymająca w prawej ręce flet, lewą oparta na lirze, ubrana w gwiaździstą
                          suknię koloru nieba. Każdy szczegół miał tu swoje alegoryczne znaczenie: lira i
                          flet wskazywały na związki poezji z muzyką, laurowy wieniec znaczył sławę,
                          pierś - płodność, barwa i deseń - szaty boskość. A. lit. utrwaliła się
                          szczególnie w gatunkach dydaktycznych i moralizatorskich, panowała w
                          średniowiecznym (-) moralitecie, w dramacie konwiktowym ((-) teatr szkolny), w
                          barokowym poemacie epickim (np. Nadobna Paskwalina S. Twardowskiego), w (-)
                          bajkach zwierzęcych, przypowieściach i przysłowiach. Występowała także w
                          poematach romansowo-moralistycznych (jak XIII-wieczny Roman de la Rose
                          Guillaume'a de Lorris) oraz w dziełach o charakterze politycznym i
                          historiozoficznym (np. w Boskiej Komedii Dantego, Faerie Queene E. Spensera,
                          Satyrach M. Bielskiego). A. znana była artystom i uczonym starożytności, ale
                          rozumiano ją wówczas dość wąsko, przede wszystkim jako jedną z figur
                          retorycznych, służącą obrazowemu mówieniu nie wprost, bliską metaforze i
                          ironii. Natomiast estetyka średniowiecza zabsolutyzowała alegoryczny sposób
                          przedstawienia zgodnie z ogólnofilozoficznym przekonaniem, ze wszystko, co
                          zmysłowe, jawne i ludzkie, ma o tyle sens i wartość, o ile wskazuje na to, co
                          ponadzmysłowe, ukryte i boskie. Dlatego też a. stała się wówczas główną zasadą
                          wszelkiej sztuki (alegoryzm), wyznaczała także sposób interpretacji i kryteria
                          oceny utworów literackich i plastycznych (alegoreza). Znaczenie alegoryczne
                          nadawano ex post dziełom mającym pierwotnie z tą techniką niewiele wspólnego. W
                          ten sposób objaśniano np. utwory pisarzy starożytnych, mitologię i Biblię.
                          Wysoka ranga a. utrzymywała się aż do romantyzmu. Później zachowała się w
                          skonwencjonalizowanych gatunkach lit. (np. w bajce). Na przełomie XIX i XX w
                          miejsce jej zajął symbol. Współczesna nauka okazuje wzmożone zainteresowanie a.
                          i zrozumienie dla jej kluczowej roli w średniowiecznej poetyce i teorii sztuki.
                          Por. figuralna interpretacja.
                          ............................

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                          • Gość: he he Re: OBRAZY MOWY... IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 02:39
                            hi hi smile
                            pol slownika przekopiowales. rzeczy prostych jak konstrukcja cepa.II klasa
                            podstawowki smile
                            drobna niescislosc alegoria pochodzi od 2 slow nie jak podaja w twoim slowniku
                            od jednego allos+agoreueín smile
                            allos -inny
                            agoreueín - mowic


                            • Gość: hahahhhhaaaaaa!!! Re: OBRAZY MOWY... IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 02:43
                              forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=16921487&a=16928990
                              smile))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                              ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                              )))))))))))))))))))))))

                              poplakalem sie,ze smiechusmile


                            • Gość: sem an7yQ mul7iSeman7ycznosc IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 22.10.04, 02:45
                              dla up7oszczenia wink
                              • Gość: :))))))))))))))))) Re: mul7iSeman7ycznosc IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 02:52
                                smile)))))))))))))))


                                smiechu ciag dalszysmile)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                                zawadzki, czlowiek ktorego nie bylo....
                                • Gość: etologia jw IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 03:05
                                  www.nencki.gov.pl/ptetol/etologia.htm

                                  "- obiektywistyczna biologiczna nauka o zachowaniu sie organizmów Żywych, co ją
                                  różni od psychologii, psychologii porównawczej i psychologii zwierząt -
                                  bedących naukami „subiektywistycznymi”, a co rozumie sie w ten sposób, że w
                                  procesie wyjaoniania badających zjawisk behawioralnych starają sie uwzgledniać
                                  subiektywne stany badanego podmiotu; z drugiej znów strony – od behawioryzmu (i
                                  pawłowizmu), które są również naukami obiektywistycznymi, różni etologie
                                  podejocie biologiczne. "
                                  • Gość: -*- Amfibologia IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 22.10.04, 03:12
                                    W myśl sformułowań statutu Towarzystwa, zwyczajnym członkiem Towarzystwa może
                                    być każda osoba fizyczna zdolna do czynności prawnych mająca pełne lub niepełne
                                    wykształcenie wyższe w zakresie związanym z naukami behawioralnymi lub
                                    pracująca czynnie w dziedzinie etologii, która złoży w tej sprawie deklarację
                                    na piśmie. Zapraszamy więc do wstąpienia do PTEtol. nie tylko tradycyjnie z nim
                                    związanych biologów i psychologów, lecz także psychiatrów, filozofów, leśników,
                                    rolników, oraz przedstawicieli wszystkich innych dyscyplin naukowych, w ramach
                                    których uprawia się badania nad zachowaniem i jego mechanizmami. Wysokość
                                    miesięcznej składki członkowskiej wynosi obecnie 1.- zł.

                                    ........
                                    Amfibologia (gr. amphibolia = atak z obu stron)
                                    - dwuznaczność lub niejasność budowy składniowej dopuszczająca dwojaka
                                    interpretację semantyczną zdania, np. gniew potęgował głód; znamy styl
                                    kształcenia asystentów. Podobnie w wierszu J. Czechowicza:

                                    nie dzwonią żelazne koła nie było klaskania podków
                                    ulicą zjawiska prostokątne wznoszą się do okna

                                    od dnia do dna

                                    - następstwo członów zdania oraz poszlaki gramatyczne nie pozwalają z całą
                                    pewnością rozstrzygnąć, do którego wersu odnosi się wyraz "ulicą" i czy
                                    epitet "prostokątne" określa "zjawiska", czy też "okna". W zwykłych
                                    wypowiedziach a. jest usterką stylu, natomiast w poezji bywa jednym z celowo
                                    wprowadzanych chwytów stylistycznych, występując zazwyczaj w połączeniu z
                                    dwuznacznością leksykalną lub frazeologiczną (gra słów). Np.

                                    ogrody strzygą
                                    krzewami
                                    wzdłuż nożyc
                                    po brzegach tamizy

                                    T. Karpoowicz, Rozmowa z mumią

                                    Inna nazwa: amfibolia.


                                    • Gość: experyment etologia ! IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 03:17
                                      Punkt trzeci i czwarty ma szerokie zastosowanie, a he he dzisiaj przeczytalem:
                                      Jan Fennell "Zapomniany jezyk psi"
                                      Dokladnie ta metoda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                      Co do ksiazki marniutko napisana, ale bardzo ciekawe opisane zachowanie
                                      wilkow,istnienie w stadzie pary Alfa z ciekawym przelozeniem na zachowanie psa
                                      w domu.
                                      Hehe a metoda opisana w ksiazce dziala.
                                      Pozdrawia cie ( hau hau )moja duuuza suniasmile


                                      Eksperymenty etologiczne opierają się bądź na reakcjach spontanicznych zwierząt
                                      (np. w badaniach preferencji zmysłowych, orientacji przestrzennej, kinez,
                                      tropizmów, taksji, wyzwalaczy reakcji instynktowych, czy malowania przez małpy
                                      człekokształtne), lub też na metodzie tresury (w badaniach zmysłów lub
                                      motywacji). Materiał bywa opracowywany statystycznie.

                                      Teoretyczna interpretacja wyników uwzgledniająca przystosowawcze znaczenie
                                      poznanych struktur i funkcji poznawczych i zachowan zwierząt jest
                                      podporządkowana czterem zasadom:

                                      1° w interpretacji wyników etologia klasyczna przeciwstawia się nieuprawnionemu
                                      antropomorfizmowi, przed czym chroni ją stosowanie zasady ekonomii lub
                                      oszczędności myślenia [Morgana] dawniej znanej jako brzytwa Ockhama;

                                      2° stojąc na stanowisku ewolucjonizmu - etologia odcina się jednak z drugiej
                                      strony od twierdzenia o absolutnej odrebności zwierząt i człowieka („Ja i ty
                                      jesteśmy jednej krwi!” - Mowgliego z Ksiegi dżungli R. Kiplinga);

                                      3° przed obiema tym stendencjami chroni etologię reguła nakazująca
                                      uwzględnienie w interpretacji poziomu rozwoju ewolucyjnego badanego podmiotu.
                                      Pozwala ona na stosowanie - w odniesieniu do wyżej rozwinietych ssaków - zasad
                                      umiarkowanego, rozsądnego antropomorfizmu, choć w przeciwieństwie do
                                      psychologii zwierząt rezygnuje w ich badaniu z tzw. introspekcji przeniesionej,
                                      polegającej na usiłowaniu „wczucia się” w badane zwierzę i zrozumienia jego
                                      zachowania się; wreszcie -

                                      4° uwzględnia postulat Réné Descartesa (Kartezjusza), zalecający branie pod
                                      uwagę w tłumaczeniu danego przejawu zachowania sie całokształtu zachowania sie
                                      zwierzęcia danego gatunku, a także zwierząt z gatunków pokrewnych.

                                      • Gość: dormitorium pora udac sie do dormitorium IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 03:18
                                • Gość: lorenz cd IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.10.04, 03:06
                                  www.nencki.gov.pl/ptetol/lorenz.htm
                                  • Gość: ZwodNik hydra uliczny proces psy chic z ny... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 22.10.04, 10:54
                                    ch...

                                    www.unus.psychologia.uni.wroc.pl/teksty/pl/pl5.html
                                    ......
                                    Lorenz zajmował się badaniem zachowań zwierząt, a o zachowaniu człowieka
                                    wiedział znacznie mniej, pomijając subiektywne doświadczenia swojego własnego
                                    zachowania. Wskazuje na to Fromm, pisząc:

                                    "Lorenz (...) jest badaczem zwierząt, szczególnie niższych, bez wątpienia
                                    zresztą niezwykle kompetentnym. Jego wiedza na temat człowieka nie wykracza
                                    poza doświadczenie przeciętnej jednostki; nie zdobył jej ani przez
                                    systematyczne obserwacje i eksperymenty, ani poprzez lekturę. Naiwnie zakłada,
                                    że obserwacja samego siebie i otaczających go ludzi stosuje się do całej
                                    ludzkości." 8

                                    Zgadzam się tu z krytycznym stanowiskiem Lorenza, co do wrodzoności instynktu,
                                    jako pewnych predyspozycji biologicznych służących przetrwaniu, ale nie
                                    zgodziłbym się z Lorenzem, co do wrodzoności instynktu agresji, rozumianego
                                    jako spadku po praojcach. Uspołecznienie Homo sapiens nie miało na celu
                                    tworzenia zintegrowanej armii, lecz celem było i jest ułatwienie przetrwania
                                    przez podział obowiązków w danym plemieniu, czy grupie społecznej. Myśl Lorenza
                                    opiera się więc na idei wrodzoności ludzkiej potworności i destrukcyjności, a
                                    społeczność tworzy się by zniszczyć inną społeczność, gdyż tak każe czynić
                                    instynkt agresji. Fromm słusznie zarzuca Lorenzowi brak potwierdzeń
                                    empirycznych, świadczących o wrodzonej chęci niszczenia wszystkiego i
                                    wszystkich.

                                    Z drugim filarem teorii Lorenza, z modelem hydraulicznym agresji, także nie
                                    zgadza się Fromm.9 Model ten opiera się bowiem na porównaniu człowieka i
                                    zawartych w nim emocji oraz uczuć do zamkniętego zbiornika, w którym zbiera się
                                    sprężona para wodna. w przypadku człowieka tą parą wodną jest agresja, która
                                    kumulując się musi eksplodować na zewnątrz. Fromm w taki sposób komentuje
                                    istotę tego modelu:

                                    "Lorenz utrzymuje, iż energia specyficzna dla działania instynktowego kumuluje
                                    się bezustannie w centrach nerwowych powiązanych z tym wzorcem zachowań, i w
                                    momencie gdy tej nagromadzonej energii będzie już dość eksploduje ona nawet pod
                                    nieobecność odpowiedniego bodźca. Jednak zarówno człowiek, jak i zwierzę
                                    zazwyczaj odnajdują bodziec, który uwalnia tą spiętrzoną energię popędu; nie
                                    muszą biernie oczekiwać na jego pojawienie się. Poszukują go, a wręcz mogą
                                    wytwarzać."10

                                    Hydrauliczny charakter sprężonej agresji ma być tu wyjaśnieniem morderczych i
                                    okrutnych popędów człowieka, ale dla jej wsparcia Lorenz przedstawia niewiele
                                    dowodów11. Fromm nie zgadza się z poglądami Lorenza i zarzuca mu ogólnikowość i
                                    brak dowodów na wspomniane tezy. Drażni go Lorenzowska butność, którą wykazuje
                                    przytaczając fragmentu jednej z jego wypowiedzi:

                                    "Lorenz deklaruje: „nie wstydzę się stwierdzić, że (...) sądzę iż mogę nauczyć
                                    ludzkość czegoś, co może jej pomóc zmienić się na lepsze. To przekonanie nie
                                    wydaje mi się dowodem zarozumiałości na jaki może wyglądać.”12

                                    Aspektami krytyki Fromma w stosunku do Lorenza są również uwagi traktujące o
                                    tym, że uschematyzował on formy zachowania człowieka na sposób jemu wygodny.
                                    Fromm widzi Lorenza jako wyznawcę nowej wiary zwanej „ewolucją”. Czytamy o tym
                                    w poniższym fragmencie:

                                    "Dla Lorenza oraz wielu innych idea ewolucji stała się rdzeniem całego systemu
                                    wyznania i orientacji [ w świecie ]. Darwin objawił ostateczną prawdę na temat
                                    początków człowieka; wszystkie zjawiska ludzkie, które można ujmować i wyjaśnić
                                    z punktu widzenia rozważań ekonomicznych, religijnych, etycznych czy
                                    politycznych, dają się zrozumieć z punktu widzenia ewolucji. To quasi-religijne
                                    nastawienie względem darwinizmu stało się szczególnie widoczne gdy weźmiemy pod
                                    uwagę użytek, jaki Lorenz czyni z terminu „wielcy konstruktorzy” którym
                                    opatruje dobór naturalny i mutacje. Mówi on o metodach i celach owych „wielkich
                                    instruktorów” w bardzo podobny sposób, w jaki chrześcijanin mógłby wypowiadać
                                    się o boskich czynach. Używa nawet liczby pojedynczej – „wielki konstruktor”,
                                    zbliżając się tym samym jeszcze bardziej do analogii z Bogiem."13

                                    ....
                                    wink))
                                    • drf Re: hydra uliczny proces psy chic z ny... 24.10.04, 00:20
                                      From Don't
                                      By Jenny Diski

                                      One of the great pleasures for me of writing is starting out in the wrong
                                      direction and discovering how all points can eventually lead to home. It isn't
                                      just a desire to be awkward, although there is that, it's also the fact that
                                      writing is about surprise — not so much for the reader as for the writer
                                      herself. At school I tried virtuously to plan essays as instructed, and as a
                                      teacher I passed on handy tips about making essay plans. But the truth is that
                                      the more remote my starting point, the more I enjoyed working my way round to
                                      what I was supposed to be saying. Writing ought to be a devious business, a
                                      game played with yourself and your reader. Gradually, you learn to trust
                                      digression. I did, and consequently failed my English Language O-Level exam.
                                      Examinees should take that as a warning, aspiring writers as encouragement. Or
                                      vice versa.

                                      Most of the essays in this collection were written for the London Review of
                                      Books. They would have had to have been; no other journal that I can think of
                                      would have allowed me to spend so much space meandering on my way to and from
                                      the point. I think on the whole I get there in the end, although occasionally
                                      it has been a close call. My warmest thanks to the editor, Mary-Kay Wilmers,
                                      and the other staff of the LRB for the opportunities they have given me to
                                      digress from so many intriguing starting points.

                                      1. A Horrified, Lidless Stare

                                      For as long as I can remember, I've had trouble with monsters. When I was very
                                      small, adults tried to alleviate the terror by opening the cupboard and shining
                                      torches under the bed to prove to me nothing was there. It made things worse,
                                      of course, because the monsters' invisibility gave them absolute power. If they
                                      couldn't be seen, they were all the more invincible, and capable of taking on
                                      distorted shapes beyond even the wild imagination of a child. Worse than all my
                                      fear of seeing them, was my fear of never seeing them, of never being able to
                                      look at them hard enough to make them go away.

                                      Plato was only half right. The shadow we see on the wall of the cave is not
                                      just a pale reflection of the Light, but an equally pale reflection of the
                                      Dark. The perfect form is less than half the story without its misshapen
                                      shadow.

                                      Civilisation may be the art of looking away, but there have always been some
                                      who choose to look directly at the darkness. The cinema, more than anywhere, is
                                      where we find ourselves face forward in the dark, having to stare back into the
                                      eyes of the murderer, the vampire, the nightmare mutation, because the lens of
                                      the camera refuses to blink and look away on our behalf.

                                      So on a gloomy bank holiday weekend, I pulled down the blinds, and indulged my
                                      taste for excess in a private video festival on the theme of the halt and the
                                      lame, the misbegotten, and the damned. A student of the psyche might find it
                                      instructive to spend a little time working in a video shop, where people like
                                      me scuttle back and forth, revealing, as in a Rorschach test, the twisting and
                                      turning of their minds.

                                      The unswerving gaze (so different from the polite looking away, which is, in
                                      reality, more a stare than any staring we might do) goes back to cinema's
                                      earliest days. Lon Chaney's Quasimodo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a
                                      horribly misshapen, wrongly made gargoyle. He is a black hole of biological
                                      accident to match the equally arbitrary accident of beauty, which his single
                                      seeing eye looks on with longing, knowing it to be impossibly out of reach. It
                                      is his looking that moves us and frightens us because the camera holds steady
                                      on his gaze, and, for all his twisted frame, won't let us imagine he is so
                                      different from us that he is without desire.

                                      We cannot look directly into the eyes of another and feel entirely unrelated.
                                      That is the trump card of the cinema. The child murderer in M is another kind
                                      of monster, as mysterious as the modern child batterer of whom we shake our
                                      heads, perplexed, and ask each other, 'How could they do such a thing?' The
                                      answer is in Peter Lorre's horrified, lidless stare, directly into the camera,
                                      as he articulates a familiar truth: 'I'm always afraid . . . Always I am
                                      followed, soundlessly. Yet I hear it. It's me pursuing myself. I can't escape.'
                                      For a black, bleak moment, watching his face, you look into the void and know
                                      there is a place close by where such things can indeed be done.

                                      The truth is that monsters are always with us, very near. They live in the
                                      dark, hating the daylight, like the vampire who has no reflection. But nowhere
                                      in the world is darker than the recesses of the human imagination. We might
                                      walk in broad daylight, on the sunny side of the street, but still the monsters
                                      have the perfect hiding place, protected in the shadowy nooks and crannies of
                                      our minds, and, perhaps, deeper and darker still, in our very cells. No getting
                                      away from them. Father Sandor, vampire hunter, explains, in Dracula: Prince of
                                      Darkness, that a vampire can't cross a threshold unless he's invited by someone
                                      already inside.

                                      The makers of the movies have always known that they display the monsters for
                                      the twin human need of voyeurism and understanding. Tod Browning's Freaks would
                                      not be made today. Watch it at your peril; your modern, liberal sensibilities
                                      shaken, your wide-eyed curiosity and fascination barely beneath the surface.
                                      There are no special effects, no technology to keep you at a distance. The
                                      Siamese twins are Siamese twins, the Pinheads are called 'Pinheads' in the cast
                                      list, the man without pelvis or legs is more fortunate than the man with
                                      nothing but a head and a torso. He displays his skills at lighting cigarettes;
                                      the Pinheads chatter and chortle incomprehensibly; the Siamese twins joke
                                      elaborately about the sexual quandary of one being married, while the other
                                      doesn't like her brother-in-law and keeps dragging her sister off on the
                                      grounds that she needs a pee. 'Aw', says the hubby, who can't get his hands on
                                      his missus, 'You always make the same excuse.' Sometimes they all just stand
                                      still and look at you from the other side of the lens. The challenge is not to
                                      look away, but to watch another kind of normality. But more than that, it's to
                                      confront our own, non-liberal disgust at the abnormal.

                                      At the wedding between the dwarf, Hans, who forgets his place in the world, and
                                      Cleopatra, the perfect woman he fatally falls in love with, the community of
                                      freaks feasts and welcomes her, chanting, 'One of us, one of us'. Certainly,
                                      Browning's tale of exploitation shows us the hideously deformed soul of the
                                      physically perfect specimen, but the truly honest moment is the sight of the
                                      horrified stare of Cleopatra, faced with the possibility of being part of the
                                      deformed community. She is not just a wicked person, she is one of us. You
                                      realise gradually as you meet her stare that your own eyes have taken on the
                                      same appalled expression. Her fear is yours, and the monsters in our dark
                                      places are getting restless.

                                      The more recent movies let us off more lightly, at least in the sense that they
                                      offer us monsters so stunning to look at that we can distract ourselves with
                                      wonder at their making. We may recognise the abject weariness and despair of
                                      Klaus Kinski's Nosferatu as something to do with us, damned and doomed to walk
                                      in the darkness, but we can't help noticing how beautifully blood-drained the
                                      lighting is. And while John Carpenter, in his bio-fantasy, The Thing, threatens
                                      us with the possibility of being mere imitations of the humans we think we are,
                                      the monster is so brilliant, you keep having to freeze frame to see its gory
                                      and glorious fleshiness better.

                                      This century has brought us a new era of darkness and we are, with reason,
                                      haunted by our biology. It isn't just that we have discovered we
                                      • drf Re: hydra uliczny proces psy chic z ny... 24.10.04, 00:27
                                        It wasn't him, it was her
                                        Jenny Diski
                                        Nietzsche's Sister and the Will to Power: A Biography of Elisabeth Förster-
                                        Nietzsche by Carol Diethe
                                        Illinois, 214 pp, £26.00

                                        Any mentally idle, story-hungry novelist or scriptwriter would do well to
                                        attend to the entangled and twisted lives of Friedrich and Elisabeth Nietzsche,
                                        which present ready-made a nearly perfect narrative. Most real lives need a
                                        good deal of cutting and pasting to get them into story shape. Here no
                                        complicated restructuring is required: you have only to start at the beginning
                                        and go on to the end (Friedrich's ending before he ended; Elisabeth's
                                        continuing long after her demise) and you have as rich a tale of human
                                        relations and mental worlds as any reader or viewer could stomach.

                                        We more or less know about Nietzsche, but Elisabeth, the little sister and
                                        living embodiment of everything the mad philosopher disdained, who took control
                                        of her brother's thought, should not on any account be overlooked. Her life is
                                        a story of mediocrity triumphing over inspiration, meanness over excess,
                                        ressentiment over the Übermensch. Her transformation of her brother's work into
                                        a Nazi cookbook bears an uncanny resemblance to the rise of National Socialism
                                        itself in a chaotic Germany. After a lifetime of failing to keep up with her
                                        brother, she finally appropriated him, body and what was left of his mind: not
                                        so much will to power as determined opportunism. Little beasts that lay their
                                        eggs in a larger creature and whose offspring use the living body of their host
                                        as a food store come to mind.

                                        Since the late 1950s scholars have been busy releasing Nietzsche's reputation
                                        from the grip of Nazification. Elisabeth's role in creating Nietzsche-the-Nazi-
                                        Philosopher has been well attested, and his notebooks and published writings
                                        have been restored to something like the form they had before his sister cut,
                                        forged, destroyed and elided them. In fact, according to Michael Tanner, the
                                        work has been so extensive that Nietzsche has been reappropriated by just about
                                        everyone: 'existentialists, phenomenologists, and then increasingly, during the
                                        1960s and 1970s . . . critical theorists, post-structuralists and
                                        deconstructionists'. Not to mention anarchists, libertarians, hippies, yippies,
                                        radical psychiatrists, religious cultists . . .

                                        Carol Diethe believes that Nietzsche's name still needs clearing. As a founder
                                        of something called the British Friedrich Nietzsche Foundation (I couldn't find
                                        it on the Web), she presents this biography of Elisabeth Nietzsche as a
                                        condemnation of the actions of the woman who brought the work of the great
                                        misunderstood philosopher into disrepute:

                                        My chief accusation against Elisabeth is that she tarnished her brother's name.
                                        I have spent a large part of my career trying to convince the recalcitrant
                                        British public that it was Nietzsche's sister Elisabeth, and not Nietzsche
                                        himself - long dead - who stood at the door of the Nietzsche-Archiv to welcome
                                        Hitler. Few people apart from experts in the field have any inkling that
                                        Nietzsche predeceased his sister by some 35 years.

                                        As a long-ago anarchist, libertarian, hippie (etc) I'd read a bit of Nietzsche,
                                        but it's true that I knew nothing about the Nietzsche Archive and wasn't even
                                        aware that he had a sister. Unfortunately, Diethe, though she has clearly spent
                                        a working life in the Nietzsche Archive, is unable to organise or present her
                                        case very satisfactorily to those of us who aren't specialists but willing
                                        members of the British public. Too much prior information or not enough
                                        interest is assumed in the often limited detail of what she describes of
                                        Elisabeth and Friedrich's lives. To fill out her omissions and even to make
                                        sense of the overall narrative I read Ronald Hayman, J.P. Stern, Michael
                                        Tanner, Rüdiger Bittner, Walter Kaufmann, Leslie Chamberlain and, yes, even
                                        Nietzsche on Nietzsche, Ben MacIntyre on Elisabeth's Paraguayan adventure, and
                                        H.F. Peters on Lou Andreas-Salomé (some of the detail below is from these books
                                        rather than Diethe's).

                                        Diethe's answer to the question of why Elisabeth so corrupted Nietzsche's work
                                        teeters between a half-hearted feminist reading which suggests that an
                                        inadequate education was to blame for her crimes, and an assumption that hell
                                        has no fury like an incestuous sister scorned. On the one hand:

                                        There is no guarantee that an excellent education would have prevented her from
                                        some of the excesses of her later life, such as her support for her husband's
                                        anti-semitism, and, in her old age, her admiration for the Fascists Mussolini
                                        and Hitler . . . But what would she have been like if she, like her brother,
                                        had received an education that truly taught her to think for herself?

                                        (Wouldn't it be fine if an excellent education prevented people from coming to
                                        the wrong conclusions, and if such a thing as an education that truly taught
                                        people to think for themselves existed, then or now?) And on the other hand,
                                        there is Elisabeth's 'unconscious desire for her brother', her 'love for her
                                        brother that verged on incest' so that 'under cover of boundless sisterly love,
                                        she conducted a vendetta against Nietzsche for having once dared to love Lou by
                                        turning Zarathustra into a Fascist ideologue.' In consequence, a steamy post-
                                        Freudian family saga pulses beneath the surface of what is intended to be a
                                        scholarly biography. There is an echo here of My Sister and I, a forgery
                                        purporting to be Nietzsche's confession, in full soft porn Technicolor, of his
                                        frolics with his sister. 'Suddenly I felt Elisabeth's warm little hands in
                                        mine, her hissing voice in my ear, and I began feeling warm all over.'

                                        Their father had died of what was called 'softening of the brain' when the two
                                        children were very small, and although Friedrich was just two years older than
                                        Elisabeth, he took on a paternal, not to say patronising role. He told her what
                                        to read and how to write ('If only she could learn to write better! And when
                                        she narrates something, she must leave out all the "ahs" and "ohs" and "you
                                        won't believe how lovely, how wonderful, how enchanting etc it was"'). He
                                        encouraged her to learn and to sit in on lectures at Leipzig University. He
                                        also encouraged her to keep house for him when he became a professor of
                                        philology at Basle at the age of 24. He called her 'Llama' after a book they
                                        had read as children, and she came when called to ease his life of nine-day
                                        migraines and what appears to have been a near autistic incapacity to deal
                                        socially with the world. Elisabeth behaved quite conventionally as an unmarried
                                        woman, living with her mother, Franziska, in Naumburg, and sometimes
                                        housekeeping for her bachelor brother. Her thinking was conventional too. In
                                        1865 she had a brief flirtation with the possibility of free thinking and wrote
                                        to Friedrich: 'Since I cannot forget my llama nature, I'm completely confused,
                                        and prefer not to think about it, because I just come up with nonsense.'
                                        Nietzsche tells her how it is: 'Here the ways of man part; if what you want is
                                        peace of soul and happiness, then believe; if you want to be a disciple of
                                        truth, then seek.' She very quickly made up her mind against being a disciple
                                        of truth. In 1878 she quarrelled fiercely with her brother because of the
                                        atheism in Human, All Too Human, though the rift that the book created between
                                        him and the Wagners was as much the cause of Elisabeth's suffering, since she
                                        found being in their classy social aura very agreeable. Cosima blamed
                                        Nietzsche's best friend Paul Rée, who was Jewish. 'Finally Israel intervened in
                                        the form of a Dr Rée, very sleek, very cool, at the same time as being wrapped
                                        up in Nietzsche and dominated by him, though actually outwitting him - the
                                        relationship between Judaea and Germany in miniature.' Friedrich and Elisabeth
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                                          It took Lou Salomé to cause an unbreachable gulf between the brother and
                                          sister. As if specially designed to be Elisabeth's nemesis, Lou met Wagner when
                                          she was 21, sparklingly clever, bare-footed, free-spirited, free-thinking
                                          (though sexually abstinent) and instantly desirable to every man who came
                                          across her. She met Paul Rée and proposed that the two of them find a third and
                                          spend a winter chastely living and learning together in Paris or Vienna,
                                          attending lectures and studying in the company of interesting people. Nietzsche
                                          was invited to form the third side of the triangle and instantly fell gauchely
                                          in love. Freud said of Nietzsche that no one ever had or ever would understand
                                          themselves as well as he did, but understanding how to conduct human
                                          relationships was not his strong suit. Lou may have kissed Nietzsche when they
                                          were walking together, which was enough to cause him to propose a second time;
                                          the first proposal - made the day they met, when he greeted her with 'What
                                          stars have sent us orbiting towards each other?' - had been, he said, merely to
                                          regularise the situation when they lived together in the winter. And if further
                                          proof were needed of his inability to understand people, he asked the narrow-
                                          minded, provincial and possessive Elisabeth to meet up with wild and wilful Lou
                                          in Bayreuth and bring her to Tautenburg to spend time with him. There was a
                                          knock-down row in their hotel room in Bayreuth, with Elisabeth in her
                                          spinsterish mid-thirties giving Lou the benefit of her womanly wisdom. Lou had
                                          been flirting with Joukowsky, one of Wagner's acolytes, and Elisabeth warned
                                          her that her reputation was at stake. When Lou, never very aware of other
                                          people's sensitivities, broke into shrieks of laughter, Elisabeth berated her
                                          for betraying Friedrich, a virtuous and innocent pastor's son, and tempting him
                                          with indecent, uncivilised proposals. H.F. Peters quotes Lou's version of her
                                          reply:

                                          Don't get the idea that I am interested in your brother, or in love with him. I
                                          could spend a whole night with him in one room without getting excited. It was
                                          your brother who first soiled our study plan with the lowest intentions. He
                                          only started to talk about friendship when he realised he could not have
                                          anything else. It was your brother who first proposed 'free love'.

                                          At this point Elisabeth became hysterical and vomited.

                                          The Tautenburg idyll was not a success. Lou and Rée went off together and left
                                          Nietzsche in a puddle of baffled and betrayed misery. His rage at Lou ('a
                                          monkey with false breasts'; 'Better to fall into the hands of a murderer than
                                          into the dreams of a woman on heat') did nothing to improve his already epic
                                          misogyny, and he never forgave his sister for poisoning the image of his only
                                          love and preventing him from coming to terms with his loss. 'For a year now,'
                                          he wrote of her interference, 'she has cheated me out of my greatest self-
                                          conquest by talking at the wrong time and being silent at the wrong time, so
                                          that in the end I am the victim of her merciless desire for vengeance.' But if
                                          Nietzsche was capable of seeing himself as a pitiful victim, he was also able
                                          to see the larger, awful joke. 'I have the Naumburg "Virtue" against me,' he
                                          wrote. A couple of months before his collapse he declared in Ecce Homo (in a
                                          passage that only narrowly survived Elisabeth's attempts to suppress it): 'When
                                          I look for my profoundest opposite, the incalculable pettiness of my instincts,
                                          I always find my mother and my sister - to be related to such canaille would be
                                          blasphemy against my divinity . . . I confess that the deepest objection to
                                          the "eternal recurrence", my real idea from the abyss, is always my mother and
                                          my sister.'

                                          Elisabeth tried to make a life of her own when the life she tried to make with
                                          her brother failed. She married a proto-Nazi, Bernhard Förster, an anti-semite,
                                          nationalist boor whose big dream came true with the founding of Nueva Germania,
                                          an Aryan colony in Paraguay. Nietzsche railed against his brother-in-law for
                                          his anti-semitism and his pro-German beliefs. He wrote to Elisabeth as
                                          his 'llama gone among the anti-semites' and derided Nueva Germania. Elisabeth
                                          found herself with a straggle of colonists in a mosquito-ridden, uncleared
                                          jungle where sandflies bored into the skin of the feet and the clay soil was so
                                          intractable that nothing would grow. The sweet nothings Elisabeth and Bernhard
                                          wrote to each other ('Dear, magnificent, great one,' he writes to her; 'My dear
                                          Bernhard of my heart', 'Your little Eli,' she writes back) turned sour. The
                                          funding turned out to be chimerical; Förster panicked and took to drink. On
                                          hearing of Nietzsche's collapse in Turin, Elisabeth wrote home to her mother:

                                          Naturally I am an excellent wife when, as usual, I take every burden upon
                                          myself with pleasure, the only reward the success of our enterprise, never
                                          desiring anything for myself, but only ever caring about Bern and the
                                          colony . . . But now for the past six weeks I have thought about myself for
                                          once, first I had a painful eye infection and then this great trouble, and I am
                                          only now discovering that Bern is a terrible egoist.

                                          When Bernhard poisoned himself in a hotel room in San Bernadino, Elisabeth was
                                          free to return home (she always insisted that he had died of a stroke, in spite
                                          of the vial of poison found beside the body) and take charge of her now
                                          hopelessly mad brother, whose work, all of a sudden, was engaging the interest
                                          of readers. She changed her name to Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche and paid her
                                          mother off in return for her relinquishing all claims to Friedrich's royalties.
                                          The Nietzsche-Archiv was born in her mother's house in Naumburg, where, to
                                          Franziska's distress, Elisabeth held soirées on the ground floor as Friedrich
                                          babbled upstairs. Sometimes she would allow guests a viewing of her brother,
                                          dressed by her in a white pleated robe like a Brahmin. Meta von Salis, who
                                          provided a free house in Weimar, the Villa Silberblick, for the Nietzsches and
                                          the archive (and to whom Elisabeth presented a bill for redecoration), was
                                          appalled when she read a newspaper article by a journalist who had been allowed
                                          to watch Nietzsche sleep and to observe him being fed bits of cake as he
                                          cowered on a chair. Rudolf Steiner tried to teach Elisabeth her brother's
                                          philosophy but gave up in disgust at her lack of understanding. In time, Thomas
                                          Mann, Romain Rolland and Spengler all resigned their posts at the archive,
                                          unable to tolerate what Elisabeth was doing to her brother's work and her
                                          cosying up to the Nazis. Walter Benjamin wrote that Nietzsche was worlds away
                                          from the 'industrious and philistine spirit' that dominated the Nietzsche-
                                          Archiv. The University of Jena refused an alliance with the archive, stating
                                          that 'the scholarly reputation of the Nietzsche-Archiv is not the best.'
                                          Astonishingly, Elisabeth was put forward for the Nobel Prize for Literature in
                                          1911 and 1923 (probably on the basis of her biography of her brother), only to
                                          be pipped at the post by Maeterlinck and Yeats.

                                          If you assume that Nietzsche mad was Nietzsche dead, then The Will to Power was
                                          published posthumously by Elisabeth, who raided the notebooks, took what she
                                          fancied entirely out of context and whether or not it had been crossed out, and
                                          knitted together a book that Heidegger helped make respectable. She turned the
                                          virulently anti-German, anti-anti-semite into a Jew-hating hyper-nationalist
                                          and suppressed everything inconvenient in his writings. Wishing to translate
                                          Nietzsche, Mazzino Montinari examined the archive and reported:

                                          Our hair stood on end when we came to read, in the shorter Nietzsche biography
                                          by Förster-Nietzsche, such comments by Richard Oehler [Elisabeth's nephew]
                                          as 'apparently not printed in the works' or 'apparently not published in the
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                                            It took Lou Salomé to cause an unbreachable gulf between the brother and
                                            sister. As if specially designed to be Elisabeth's nemesis, Lou met Wagner when
                                            she was 21, sparklingly clever, bare-footed, free-spirited, free-thinking
                                            (though sexually abstinent) and instantly desirable to every man who came
                                            across her. She met Paul Rée and proposed that the two of them find a third and
                                            spend a winter chastely living and learning together in Paris or Vienna,
                                            attending lectures and studying in the company of interesting people. Nietzsche
                                            was invited to form the third side of the triangle and instantly fell gauchely
                                            in love. Freud said of Nietzsche that no one ever had or ever would understand
                                            themselves as well as he did, but understanding how to conduct human
                                            relationships was not his strong suit. Lou may have kissed Nietzsche when they
                                            were walking together, which was enough to cause him to propose a second time;
                                            the first proposal - made the day they met, when he greeted her with 'What
                                            stars have sent us orbiting towards each other?' - had been, he said, merely to
                                            regularise the situation when they lived together in the winter. And if further
                                            proof were needed of his inability to understand people, he asked the narrow-
                                            minded, provincial and possessive Elisabeth to meet up with wild and wilful Lou
                                            in Bayreuth and bring her to Tautenburg to spend time with him. There was a
                                            knock-down row in their hotel room in Bayreuth, with Elisabeth in her
                                            spinsterish mid-thirties giving Lou the benefit of her womanly wisdom. Lou had
                                            been flirting with Joukowsky, one of Wagner's acolytes, and Elisabeth warned
                                            her that her reputation was at stake. When Lou, never very aware of other
                                            people's sensitivities, broke into shrieks of laughter, Elisabeth berated her
                                            for betraying Friedrich, a virtuous and innocent pastor's son, and tempting him
                                            with indecent, uncivilised proposals. H.F. Peters quotes Lou's version of her
                                            reply:

                                            Don't get the idea that I am interested in your brother, or in love with him. I
                                            could spend a whole night with him in one room without getting excited. It was
                                            your brother who first soiled our study plan with the lowest intentions. He
                                            only started to talk about friendship when he realised he could not have
                                            anything else. It was your brother who first proposed 'free love'.

                                            At this point Elisabeth became hysterical and vomited.

                                            The Tautenburg idyll was not a success. Lou and Rée went off together and left
                                            Nietzsche in a puddle of baffled and betrayed misery. His rage at Lou ('a
                                            monkey with false breasts'; 'Better to fall into the hands of a murderer than
                                            into the dreams of a woman on heat') did nothing to improve his already epic
                                            misogyny, and he never forgave his sister for poisoning the image of his only
                                            love and preventing him from coming to terms with his loss. 'For a year now,'
                                            he wrote of her interference, 'she has cheated me out of my greatest self-
                                            conquest by talking at the wrong time and being silent at the wrong time, so
                                            that in the end I am the victim of her merciless desire for vengeance.' But if
                                            Nietzsche was capable of seeing himself as a pitiful victim, he was also able
                                            to see the larger, awful joke. 'I have the Naumburg "Virtue" against me,' he
                                            wrote. A couple of months before his collapse he declared in Ecce Homo (in a
                                            passage that only narrowly survived Elisabeth's attempts to suppress it): 'When
                                            I look for my profoundest opposite, the incalculable pettiness of my instincts,
                                            I always find my mother and my sister - to be related to such canaille would be
                                            blasphemy against my divinity . . . I confess that the deepest objection to
                                            the "eternal recurrence", my real idea from the abyss, is always my mother and
                                            my sister.'

                                            Elisabeth tried to make a life of her own when the life she tried to make with
                                            her brother failed. She married a proto-Nazi, Bernhard Förster, an anti-semite,
                                            nationalist boor whose big dream came true with the founding of Nueva Germania,
                                            an Aryan colony in Paraguay. Nietzsche railed against his brother-in-law for
                                            his anti-semitism and his pro-German beliefs. He wrote to Elisabeth as
                                            his 'llama gone among the anti-semites' and derided Nueva Germania. Elisabeth
                                            found herself with a straggle of colonists in a mosquito-ridden, uncleared
                                            jungle where sandflies bored into the skin of the feet and the clay soil was so
                                            intractable that nothing would grow. The sweet nothings Elisabeth and Bernhard
                                            wrote to each other ('Dear, magnificent, great one,' he writes to her; 'My dear
                                            Bernhard of my heart', 'Your little Eli,' she writes back) turned sour. The
                                            funding turned out to be chimerical; Förster panicked and took to drink. On
                                            hearing of Nietzsche's collapse in Turin, Elisabeth wrote home to her mother:

                                            Naturally I am an excellent wife when, as usual, I take every burden upon
                                            myself with pleasure, the only reward the success of our enterprise, never
                                            desiring anything for myself, but only ever caring about Bern and the
                                            colony . . . But now for the past six weeks I have thought about myself for
                                            once, first I had a painful eye infection and then this great trouble, and I am
                                            only now discovering that Bern is a terrible egoist.

                                            When Bernhard poisoned himself in a hotel room in San Bernadino, Elisabeth was
                                            free to return home (she always insisted that he had died of a stroke, in spite
                                            of the vial of poison found beside the body) and take charge of her now
                                            hopelessly mad brother, whose work, all of a sudden, was engaging the interest
                                            of readers. She changed her name to Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche and paid her
                                            mother off in return for her relinquishing all claims to Friedrich's royalties.
                                            The Nietzsche-Archiv was born in her mother's house in Naumburg, where, to
                                            Franziska's distress, Elisabeth held soirées on the ground floor as Friedrich
                                            babbled upstairs. Sometimes she would allow guests a viewing of her brother,
                                            dressed by her in a white pleated robe like a Brahmin. Meta von Salis, who
                                            provided a free house in Weimar, the Villa Silberblick, for the Nietzsches and
                                            the archive (and to whom Elisabeth presented a bill for redecoration), was
                                            appalled when she read a newspaper article by a journalist who had been allowed
                                            to watch Nietzsche sleep and to observe him being fed bits of cake as he
                                            cowered on a chair. Rudolf Steiner tried to teach Elisabeth her brother's
                                            philosophy but gave up in disgust at her lack of understanding. In time, Thomas
                                            Mann, Romain Rolland and Spengler all resigned their posts at the archive,
                                            unable to tolerate what Elisabeth was doing to her brother's work and her
                                            cosying up to the Nazis. Walter Benjamin wrote that Nietzsche was worlds away
                                            from the 'industrious and philistine spirit' that dominated the Nietzsche-
                                            Archiv. The University of Jena refused an alliance with the archive, stating
                                            that 'the scholarly reputation of the Nietzsche-Archiv is not the best.'
                                            Astonishingly, Elisabeth was put forward for the Nobel Prize for Literature in
                                            1911 and 1923 (probably on the basis of her biography of her brother), only to
                                            be pipped at the post by Maeterlinck and Yeats.

                                            If you assume that Nietzsche mad was Nietzsche dead, then The Will to Power was
                                            published posthumously by Elisabeth, who raided the notebooks, took what she
                                            fancied entirely out of context and whether or not it had been crossed out, and
                                            knitted together a book that Heidegger helped make respectable. She turned the
                                            virulently anti-German, anti-anti-semite into a Jew-hating hyper-nationalist
                                            and suppressed everything inconvenient in his writings. Wishing to translate
                                            Nietzsche, Mazzino Montinari examined the archive and reported:

                                            Our hair stood on end when we came to read, in the shorter Nietzsche biography
                                            by Förster-Nietzsche, such comments by Richard Oehler [Elisabeth's nephew]
                                            as 'apparently not printed in the works' or 'apparently not published in the
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                                              If you assume that Nietzsche mad was Nietzsche dead, then The Will to Power was
                                              published posthumously by Elisabeth, who raided the notebooks, took what she
                                              fancied entirely out of context and whether or not it had been crossed out, and
                                              knitted together a book that Heidegger helped make respectable. She turned the
                                              virulently anti-German, anti-anti-semite into a Jew-hating hyper-nationalist
                                              and suppressed everything inconvenient in his writings. Wishing to translate
                                              Nietzsche, Mazzino Montinari examined the archive and reported:

                                              Our hair stood on end when we came to read, in the shorter Nietzsche biography
                                              by Förster-Nietzsche, such comments by Richard Oehler [Elisabeth's nephew]
                                              as 'apparently not printed in the works' or 'apparently not published in the
                                              posthumous works' regarding decisive quotations from Nietzsche cited in the
                                              text . . . What was still slumbering away in the manuscripts after more than
                                              seventy years of which we - in Florence - would never have been able to learn?

                                              Nietzsche wrote in Beyond Good and Evil that the task of 'free, very free
                                              spirits' was to translate 'man back into nature' after tradition had scribbled
                                              and painted over the original text. The job of translating Nietzsche's thought
                                              back into its original form after Elisabeth got her hands on it has been very
                                              similar. But it has to be said that concepts such as Übermensch and Herrenmoral
                                              lent themselves to becoming the bedrock of National Socialist philosophy. It
                                              wasn't exactly a case of a liberal democrat being forced into bed with National
                                              Socialism, though Nietzsche clearly would have hated Hitler. The problem, J.P.
                                              Stern suggests, is that Nietzsche was too non-political to see how his thoughts
                                              about the way individuals should conduct themselves might be used by something
                                              very nasty indeed. Stern, at least, does not let Nietzsche off entirely; he
                                              must take some blame for failing to pursue the consequences of his ideas.

                                              He cannot, however, be blamed for his sister's girlish, giggling delight in
                                              Fascism, sending Mussolini a 50th-birthday telegram and welcoming Hitler and
                                              Albert Speer to the archive to plan the building of a Friedrich Nietzsche
                                              Memorial Hall. But Elisabeth was at least as interested in inflating herself as
                                              she was in perverting her brother's ideas. Her biography of Nietzsche is a
                                              double hagiography, comic and almost sad in its reflection of her own will to
                                              power. 'Never in our lives, indeed, did we say an unkind word to each other;
                                              and if we sometimes wrote unpleasant things, it is because, when apart, we came
                                              under the baneful influence of others.'

                                              As a woman who had gained considerable power, she was about as useful to other
                                              women as that other great Nietzschean, Margaret Thatcher. Elisabeth claimed
                                              that the sewing machine was responsible for feminism: it made women's real job
                                              of domestic sewing take too little time and so left their minds too free for
                                              foolish ideas. Women who spoke of freedom were inclined to smoke cigars and
                                              behave in a masculine fashion. She excuses her brother's misogyny (he said,
                                              according to her, that intellectual women were 'super-clever gabbling geese')
                                              as a defence against the excesses of modern-day feminists.

                                              Hitler attended Elisabeth's funeral - she died in 1935 - at which she was
                                              eulogised as the 'priestess of eternal Germany'. In order to be buried in the
                                              dead centre of the family plot she had arranged to have Friedrich's well-rotted
                                              corpse shifted several feet to one side, though another story has it that only
                                              her brother's gravestone was moved, in which case his body is marked with
                                              Elisabeth's name, and hers is proclaimed to be the remains of Friedrich
                                              Nietzsche - as fine and final an instance of overcoming as might be found.

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                                                    ... 27.10 3.3.3=27 Begin rocking the body back and forth, slowly, in
                                                    decreasing arcs, until you settle at your center of gravity. The mind is in the
                                                    hara, hands are folded in the cosmic mudra, mouth is closed, tongue pressed on
                                                    the upper palate. You're breathing through the nose and you're tasting the
                                                    breath. Keep your attention on the hara and the breath. Imagine the breath
                                                    coming down into the hara, the viscera, and returning from there. Make it part
                                                    of the whole cycle of breathing.

                                                    We begin working on ourselves by counting the breath, counting each inhalation
                                                    and each exhalation, beginning with one and counting up to ten. When you get to
                                                    ten, come back to one and start all over. The only agreement that you make with
                                                    yourself in this process is that if your mind begins to wander - if you become
                                                    aware that what you're doing is chasing thoughts - you will look at the
                                                    thought, acknowledge it, and then deliberately and consciously let it go and
                                                    begin the count again at one.

                                                    The counting is a feedback to help you know when your mind has drifted off.
                                                    Each time you return to the breath you are empowering yourself with the ability
                                                    to put your mind where you want it, when you want it there, for as long as you
                                                    want it there. That simple fact is extremely important. We call this power of
                                                    concentration joriki. Joriki manifests itself in many ways. It's the center of
                                                    the martial and visual arts in Zen. In fact, it's the source of all the
                                                    activity of our lives.

                                                    When you've been practicing this process for a while, your awareness will
                                                    sharpen. You'll begin to notice things that were always there but escaped your
                                                    attention. Because of the preoccupation with the internal dialogue, you were
                                                    too full to be able to see what was happening around you. The process of zazen
                                                    begins to open that up.

                                                    When you're able to stay with the counting and repeatedly get to ten without
                                                    any effort and without thoughts interfering, it's time to begin counting every
                                                    cycle of the breath. Inhalation and exhalation will count as one, the next
                                                    inhalation and exhalation as two. This provides less feedback, but with time
                                                    you will need less feedback.

                                                    Eventually, you'll want to just follow the breath and abandon the counting
                                                    altogether. Just be with the breath. Just be the breath. Let the breath breathe
                                                    itself. That's the beginning of the falling away of body and mind. It takes
                                                    some time and you shouldn't rush it; you shouldn't move too fast from counting
                                                    every breath to counting every other breath and on to following the breath. If
                                                    you move ahead prematurely, you'll end up not developing strong joriki. And
                                                    it's that power of concentration that ultimately leads to what we call samadhi,
                                                    or single-pointedness of mind.

                                                    In the process of working with the breath, the thoughts that come up, for the
                                                    most part, will be just noise, just random thoughts. Sometimes, however, when
                                                    you're in a crisis or involved in something important in your life, you'll find
                                                    that the thought, when you let it go, will recur. You let it go again but it
                                                    comes back, you let it go and it still comes back. Sometimes that needs to
                                                    happen. Don't treat that as a failure; treat it as another way of practicing.
                                                    This is the time to let the thought happen, engage it, let it run its full
                                                    course. But watch it, be aware of it. Allow it to do what it's got to do, let
                                                    it exhaust itself. Then release it, let it go. Come back again to the breath.
                                                    Start at one and continue the process. Don't use zazen to suppress thoughts or
                                                    issues that need to come up.

                                                    Scattered mental activity and energy keeps us separated from each other, from
                                                    our environment, and from ourselves. In the process of sitting, the surface
                                                    activity of our minds begins to slow down. The mind is like the surface of a
                                                    pond - when the wind is blowing, the surface is disturbed and there are
                                                    ripples. Nothing can be seen clearly because of the ripples; the reflected
                                                    image of the sun or the moon is broken up into many fragments.

                                                    Out of that stillness, our whole life arises. If we don't get in touch with it
                                                    at some time in our life, we will never get the opportunity to come to a point
                                                    of rest. In deep zazen, deep samadhi, a person breathes at a rate of only two
                                                    or three breaths a minute. Normally, at rest, a person will breathe about
                                                    fifteen breaths a minute - even when we're relaxing, we don't quite relax. The
                                                    more completely your mind is at rest, the more deeply your body is at rest.
                                                    Respiration, heart rate, circulation, and metabolism slow down in deep zazen.
                                                    The whole body comes to a point of stillness that it doesn't reach even in deep
                                                    sleep. This is a very important and very natural aspect of being human. It is
                                                    not something particularly unusual. All creatures of the earth have learned
                                                    this and practice this. It's a very important part of being alive and staying
                                                    alive: the ability to be completely awake.

                                                    Once the counting of the breath has been really learned, and concentration,
                                                    true one-pointedness of mind, has developed, we usually go on to other
                                                    practices such as koan study or shikantaza ("just sitting"). This progression
                                                    should not be thought of in terms of "gain" or "promotion"; that would imply
                                                    that counting the breath was just a preparation for the "real" thing. Each step
                                                    is the real thing. Whatever our practice is, the important thing is to put
                                                    ourselves into it completely. When counting the breath, we just count the
                                                    breath.

                                                    It is also important to be patient and persistent, to not be constantly
                                                    thinking of a goal, of how the sitting practice may help us. We just put
                                                    ourselves into it and let go of our thoughts, opinions, positions - everything
                                                    our minds hold onto. The human mind is basically free, not clinging. In zazen
                                                    we learn to uncover that mind, to see who we really are.

                                                    3ó)!!!

                                                    zzn .


                                                  • drf 8US H!De O ?who Cu7eS? 2x9.11? aSOCjaC!A!-) 27.10.04, 16:02
                                                    PoliMe7RiX
                                                    ..........
                                                    Pa7!eNCe....
                                                    ni7kiA7iaDny:
                                                    aSOCjaC!!
                                                    d7polime7yk
                                                  • drf In The Name Of Al laHa... 8UZ!D0 PLOSTELiNY ! ? 08.11.04, 11:39
                                                    In The Name Of Al laHa, The BenefiCenta, The MerciFula

                                                    ISLAMAIC ASSOCIATION FOR PLOESToLINE


                                                    www.iap.org/index2.html
                                                    suha arafucka krolowa plostelinska miej nas w swojej opiece wink
    • drf Koła Eulera..... 24.10.04, 02:39
      ....
      A jest nazwa pusta, B - jednostkowa, C - ogólna

      Nazwy dzieli sie tutaj wylacznie z uwagi na liczbe desygnatów. Do nazw pustych
      zalicza sie zatem wszelkie nazwy niemajace desygnatów, bez wzgledu na to, czy
      sa to nazwy analitycznie puste, czy tez nie. Przykladami nazw pustych w
      listopadzie 2002 roku sa "kwadratowe kolo", "zbiór wszystkich zbiorów
      niebedacych swoimi elementami", "wyjatek od prawa
      logiki", "papiezyca", "królewna Sniezka", "zamezna siostra zakonna", "obecny
      król Polski", "Czechoslowacja", "Wieze World Trade Center", "kobieta kierujaca
      Katedra Logiki K.U.L.". Podobnie jest z nazwami jednostkowymi i ogólnymi.
      Przyklady nazw jednostkowych: "Bialy Dom", "Marcin
      Tkaczyk", "Tatry", "Prezydent R.P.", "zbiór pusty" - i
      ogólnych: "biskup", "swinka morska". Jak widac, nie ma tez w tym podziale
      znaczenia, czy nazwa jest imieniem wlasnym, czy tez skrótem deskrypcji.

      kolkologiczne.webpark.pl/tkaczyk.html
      • Gość: 2727 fraktale są wszędzie wokół nas... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.10.04, 01:52
        www.fractal.art.pl/idee.html
        Gdyby oczyścić drzwi percepcji,
        każda rzecz jawiłaby się taka,
        jaka jest, nieskończona...
        - William Blake -
        ...................................

        Dlaczego geometria jest często opisywana jako "zimna" i "sucha"? Jednym z
        powodów takiego podejścia jest niemożność opisania przez nią kształtu chmury,
        wzgórza, brzegu morskiego, czy drzewa. Chmury nie są sferami, góry stożkami,
        linie brzegowe okręgami, a kora drzewa nie jest gładką powierzchnią. Nawet
        błyskawica nie porusza się po linii prostej.

        - Benoit B. Mandelbrot -
        • Gość: i wymiary niewymierne ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.10.04, 02:40
          A point has no dimensions - no length, no width, no height.

          That dot is obviously way too big to really represent a point. But we'll live
          with it, if we all just agree what a point really is.

          A line has one dimension - length. It has no width and no height, but infinite
          length.



          Again, this model of a line is really not very good, but until we learn how to
          draw a line with 0 width and infinite length, it'll have to do.

          A plane has two dimensions - length and width, no depth.


          It's an absolutely flat tabletop extending out both ways to infinity.


          Space, a huge empty box, has three dimensions, length, width, and depth,
          extending to infinity in all three directions.



          Obviously this isn't a good representation of 3-D. Besides its size, it's just
          a hexagon drawn to fool you into thinking it's a box.

          Fractals can have fractional (or fractal) dimension. A fractal might have
          dimension of 1.6 or 2.4. How could that be? Let's investigate below.

          math.rice.edu/~lanius/fractals/dim.html


          So the dimension of Sierpinski's Triangle is between 1 and 2. Do you think you
          could find a better answer? Use a calculator with an exponent key (the key
          usually looks like this ^ ). Use 2 as a base and experiment with different
          exponents between 1 and 2 to see how close you can come. For example, try 1.1.
          Type 2^1.1 and you get 2.143547. I'll bet you can get closer to 3 than that.
          Try 2^1.2 and you get 2.2974. That's closer to 3, but you can do better.

          Okay, I got you started; now find the exponent that gets you closest to 3, and
          that's its dimension. Email me your answer if you want.


          lanius@rice.edu

          mathforum.org/library/topics/fractals/
          • Gość: ProbAbiliter A Property of the Observer, Not the Observed IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 25.10.04, 15:09
            If spatial dimensionality is a property or characteristic of our knowledge and
            all knowledge is illusion, does this mean that spatial dimensionality is
            irrelevant or trivial? For further discussion of the relationship between
            knowledge and reality see The Nature of Knowledge.

            Not at all. To say spatial dimensionality is a very powerful tool may be one of
            the all-time greatest understatements. However, if spatial dimensionality is a
            property of our knowledge, then it is not a fixed universal truth. Perhaps,
            other sentient beings may not find spatial dimensionality a useful or necessary
            part of their knowledge system!

            Just as probability changes with our knowledge base, does spatial
            dimensionality change as our knowledge changes? I believe that it has. I
            conjecture that at some point in human development our knowledge did not
            encompass a three dimensional concept. Our concept of time is an evolution of
            spatial relationships. Now we discuss the 4-D space-time continuum and
            speculate on the existence of 10 and more spatial dimensions. However, these
            changes in spatial dimensionality are not as frequent or shallow as the changes
            in our estimates of the probabilities for event outcomes. Why not?

            www.futureperspective.com/spat1.htm
            www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=7aba2c950aeda40f5691e34473028697&p=286264#post286264

            www.cs.indiana.edu/~tkeahey/research/fad/fad.html
            vip.cs.utsa.edu/research/
            • drf 3Dse3an7Yz3....from 0-D to 3-D to "n"-D 25.10.04, 15:47
              Hypothesis
              Let us now flesh out this alternative view of spatial dimensionality. Suppose
              the following rule holds true for sentient beings such as ourselves. Suppose
              that one spatial dimension can be conceived beyond the number of spatial
              dimension perceived. We humans with our normal vision perceive two dimensions
              and conceive a third dimension. Perhaps, porpoises perceive 1-D with their
              sonar hearing and conceive a second dimension. Could this rule apply upwards
              also. Could a creature perceiving in 3-D conceive a world in 4-D?

              For humans to visualize a world in more or less dimensions than 3-D is no
              trivial task. It may even be impossible, without physically modifying
              ourselves. If dimensionality is not a property of the universe, but of
              ourselves, then our attempts to "visualize" 2-D and 4-D universes in terms of
              our 3-D abilities is not only futile, it is nonsense. If a song is a "picture"
              in 2-D, how can we draw a song? To imagine a 2-D universe to be a subset of a 3-
              D universe is nonsense. As the poet said "A rose is a rose is a rose," we
              should say "Reality is reality is reality!" The reality perceived by the 2-D
              being is the same reality as perceived by the 3-D being and the 4-D being.
              Their methods of description will vary greatly, but they are each attempting to
              describe the same thing.

              It would be extremely interesting to converse with a society of "sightless"
              humans which has evolved its knowledge totally independent of "sighted" humans.
              If my hypothesis is correct, the sightless humans would not, could not,
              conceive the universe to be 3-D. Such a society does not exist. However, some
              testing of the hypothesis could be gleaned from studies of the differences in
              spatial conception between sighted and sightless human individuals.
              Unfortunately, sightless humans do not naturally gain a replacement sensor for
              spatial perception, such as sonar. Sonar devices to aid the blind have been
              created. It would be interesting to study whether persons using these sonar
              devices can alter their spatial conception.

              There are rare cases of persons, blind since birth or early childhood, gaining
              the ability to see. Such persons have not had the chance to develop, or
              strongly ingrain, "sighted" visualization of 3-D space. These persons are
              suddenly given the ability of 2-D perception. Accounts of such cases appear to
              be consistent with the hypothesis of sentient beings struggling to create new
              spatial conceptions consistent with their expanded sensory perception. See
              Sacks.

              This alternative perspective on spatial dimensionality has offered a rational
              answer to the question of why do we conceive the universe to be limited to
              three spatial dimensions. The answer is the universe is not limited, it is we
              who are limited. Another dimensionality issue that is answered is that of the
              co-existence of multiple dimensions beyond three. This issue becomes nonsense.
              A object cannot pass to another plane or dimension of existence because these
              planes or dimensions do not exist. No dimensions exist except in our minds.

              ...................
              I have proposed that dimensions are tools which we use to organize and
              understand the universe. It seems reasonable to believe that a being who can
              conceive an "n"-D universe can develop more elegant knowledge that a being who
              can only conceive an "n-1"-D universe. In essence, the more dimensions we can
              conceive, the more about the universe we can understand. Suppose that "time" is
              a sentient being's way to organize information about the universe for all those
              mysteries for which he has not been able to fit entirely into his spatial
              dimensionality framework. Remember the initial hypothesis was that a being who
              perceives "x" dimensions, will conceive the universe in "x+1" dimensions. We
              are now expanding the hypothesis to say that a being who perceives "x"
              dimensions, will conceive the universe in "x+1" dimensions plus "time."
              Therefore, as a beings may increase in the total number of dimensions in which
              they perceive and conceive the universe, there will always be a temporal
              dimension to the universe for the beings.

              If we could increase our perception to 3-D so we could then conceive a 4-D
              universe, many phenomenon which we now describe as occurring at different times
              would then be described as occurring at different spatial locations. The
              progressive increase in spatial dimensionality moves explanations from the
              infinite reservoir of "time" to spatial locations. However, even though the
              number of spatial dimensions may increase without bound, the conception
              of "time" remains constant for all beings, from 0-D to 3-D to "n"-D.


              smile)))
              J-D
              • Gość: exaxctly:)) Re: 3Dse3an7Yz3....from 0-D to 3-D to "n"-D IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 25.10.04, 17:10
                > The
                > progressive increase in spatial dimensionality moves explanations from the
                > infinite reservoir of "time" to spatial locations. However, even though the
                > number of spatial dimensions may increase without bound, the conception
                > of "time" remains constant for all beings, from 0-D to 3-D to "n"-D.


                1. Maybe... It remains constant for all because it has more to do with a
                reality than our sense of spatial dimensionality? hihi
                2. There is no 'fair' coin. Fractals belong to the observer, not the observed.
                Na kazdy MaatRex znajdzie sie nitkasmile)))
                • zupagrzybowa SyMEtRy.CZAs.e m anty ka...Ro r scHacH.raw - shock 25.10.04, 18:54
                  www.aboutscotland.com/harmony/prop.html
                  mathworld.wolfram.com/Sphere.html
                  www.adrianbruce.com/Symmetry/
                  www.adrianbruce.com/Symmetry/10.htm
                  www.adrianbruce.com/Symmetry/14.htm
                  www.adrianbruce.com/Symmetry/16.htm

                  .............................................

                  www.adrianbruce.com/Symmetry/blots/blots.html
                  Some psychologists believe that ink blots are a way to measure a person's
                  intellectual and emotional state. Herman Rorschach (pronounced raw - shock)
                  1884-1922 developed this idea and that is why the test is named the, '
                  Rorschach Ink Blot Test'.
                  ..................................................
                  wink
                  • Gość: Ps!HOLO9RAph Ps!HomoMetriX IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.10.04, 20:05
                    newton.ex.ac.uk/research/semiconductors/theory/people/goss/symmetry/
                    newton.ex.ac.uk/research/semiconductors/theory/people/goss/symmetry/Solids.html

                    www.math.okstate.edu/~wolfe/border/border.html
                    An intrinsic property of a mathematical object which causes it to remain
                    invariant under certain classes of transformations (such as rotation,
                    reflection, inversion, or more abstract operations). The mathematical study of
                    symmetry is systematized and formalized in the extremely powerful and beautiful
                    area of mathematics called group theory.

                    Symmetry can be present in the form of coefficients of equations as well as in
                    the physical arrangement of objects. By classifying the symmetry of polynomial
                    equations using the machinery of group theory, for example, it is possible to
                    prove the unsolvability of the general quintic equation.

                    In physics, the extremely powerful Noether's symmetry theorem states that each
                    symmetry of a system leads to a physically conserved quantity. Symmetry under
                    translation corresponds to momentum conservation, symmetry under rotation to
                    angular momentum conservation, symmetry in time to energy conservation, etc.


                    Crystallography Restriction, Group Theory, Noether's Symmetry Theorem

                    mathworld.wolfram.com/SymmetryOperation.html
                    smile
                  • patience Re: SyMEtRy.CZAs.e m anty ka...Ro r scHacH.raw - 25.10.04, 23:47
                    toYes interesujonce. Cos zaczelam pisac we wlasnym narzeczu ale sie zmeczylam i
                    chyba dokoncze jutro? Moge ewentualnie pogadac o czyms mniej interesujoncym i
                    mniej absorbujacym, na przyklad o kapiacych kranach, wyrywajacych sie z sciany
                    i powodujacych tym sposobem balagan w kuchni, albo o Python Scriptach, czyli
                    wszystko jedno o czym, bo i tak all is about sexwink


                    (.)
                    • Gość: 63X TopologiaCialPulsujacych IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 01:46
                      DyNaMikaProce55owARchiMedeeJskiCh
                      CialoZanurzoneW2gimCiele TraciNaCiezarze
                      & Wy.pI.eR...A & fal...luje na aquANeCie?
                      wink
                      seMath:63X
                      • patience Re: TopologiaCialPulsujacych O! O! O! 26.10.04, 01:57
                        Gość portalu: 63X napisał(a):

                        > DyNaMikaProce55owARchiMedeeJskiCh
                        > CialoZanurzoneW2gimCiele TraciNaCiezarze
                        > & Wy.pI.eR...A & fal...luje na aquANeCie?
                        > wink
                        > seMath:63X

                        Tytul jest niezwykle interesujacy a tresc jeszcze bardziej. Cialo zanurzone w 2 ciele traci na ciezarze? Hmm... A jesli cialo w ktore sie zanurza 2 cialo znajdzie sie na wierzchu, to to cialo zanurzone, znajdujace sie aktualnie pod spodem, tez straci na ciezarze? I co wtedy? Lewitacja? Fakiryzm? Antygrawitacja?
                        • Gość: H2O 9RaViTaCja=0 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 02:11
                          NieWazKoSC ale i wzajemne oplywanie ;kie7unki 7Raca zenz...
                          Topolo9ia27RanZEN6Zualna...okuLIsTYQaERO9enna?
                          Vi7aLIZacja...
                          dR6
                          • patience Re: 9RaViTaCja=0 26.10.04, 02:41
                            mmm...
                            3roGenes!s?
                            ba6a2ia 2aukow3 Organ.ptyczne?
                            Organ.73pt7ka ZenSualNie_Cierpliva?
                            6.9re ...
                            • Gość: 0oO 9RaViTaE=0oO IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 02:54
                              (9RaViTaE=0oO)
                              OZmoZYONIZaC!a D.C3a 605qa 0 hel9a..?!

                              dr6
                              • patience Re: 9RaViTaE=0oO 26.10.04, 03:13
                                <OZmoZYONIZaC!a 7!313Zna!
                                kWiEtna!
                                aRosEd OrchID.sH 6o0O9!
                                • drf leViTaE=0oO 9Ra Le ZYC za JAc P0ZyC!e LeZaCa ? 27.10.04, 15:35
                                  jak po7uszac sie bez 9rawitacji?
                                  6w3D ale 9=0..
                                  szkoalLezyckaKohennaFeminiStYkowaHaikuYoga?

                                  7eX 7o naped ko7miczny?
                                  D7f sa77oi
                                  • Gość: wandeRing3ee7 RuCH!nnoGraV vithEMpTy hands... IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 27.10.04, 17:52
                                    tRaTVaShuMee innoGrav!!!
                                    tRaVeLsaRe innoGrav!!!

                                    -------

                                    sped2work.tripod.com/dogen.html

                                    Dogen didn't realize the truth of Zen for a long time. The difficulty of Zen meditation is not the training, but the letting go of preconceived ideas. The experience of the true self is a state of awareness that cannot be defined; words cannot express living reality. In the experience of the true self, there is no "I" no reference point whatsoever. ...

                                    Despite his profound insights, Dogen felt he didn't have complete understanding, and therefore, went with Myozen to China to study more. He practiced Chinese Zen (Ch'an) with Master Ju-Ching in China, but mistakenly sat in a quietest way, which merely lead to notional emptiness condemned by H.H. The Sixth Patriarch Hui Neng. One day Master Ju-Ching was scolding another monk for sleeping, and said, "The practice of Zazen (Sitting Meditation) is the dropping away of body and mind. What do you think dozing will accomplish?" Upon hearing these words, Dogen became fully Enlightened. He suddenly understood that Zazen is not just sitting still, but it is the "I" opening up to its own Reality. When preconceived ideas are abandoned, one experience the true nature of mind; life is experienced directly, non-dualistically, without ego interfering. He made the following comments about his experience:

                                    "Mind and body dropped off; dropped off mind and body! This state should be experienced by everyone; it is like piling fruit into a basket without a bottom, like pouring water into a bowl with a pierced hole; however much you may pile or pour you cannot fill it up. When this is realized the pail bottom is broken through. But while there is still a trace of conceptualism which makes you say 'I have this understanding' or 'I have that realization', you are still playing with unrealities." ... Four years later, when Dogen returned to Japan, he said, "I have come back empty-handed. I have realized only that the eyes are horizontal and the nose is vertical."

                                    Dogen's Soto school taught that sitting in Zazen was entering the flow of each moment by dropping from the mind the concepts of past, present, and future. Life is one and its flow of movements and events should not be held to or dominated to create illusions of permanence. All moments and all actions, whether they are important, insignificant, fascinating, or boring.
                                    • drf Dark Luminosity..."If it were only1 so!?" 27.10.04, 18:38

                                      AN ENLIGHTENMENT



                                      Smashing the Black Lacquer Barrel



                                      by the Wanderling






                                      When the Buddha was walking along the road to Benares following his post-
                                      Enlightenment pause he was approached by a wandering ascetic. According to the
                                      custom of the time the ascetic greeted him and asked who his teacher was or
                                      what doctrine he followed. The Buddha told the wanderling that he was "the
                                      Victor and Conqueror of the World, superior to gods and men, an All-Enlightened
                                      One beholden to no teacher." The wandering ascetic could see no hint of
                                      anything of the Buddha's nature and wandered off as wanderlings are oft to do,
                                      mumbling under his breath something like, "If it were only so!"

                                      so1!a1!an!3=summa7unni7hiJa:

                                      One Ona 7a 8UDDA
                                      aPani*UDDa?
                                      All-HEnli9hteneed 0ne behOlden t0 n0 teaCher

                                      ?)
                                      • Gość: notsopathetic:)))) Re: Luminosity... in Darkness IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 27.10.04, 19:27
                                        > aPani*UDDa?

                                        Re:d7 to USe

                                        hihi
                                        • Gość: 以8及uDDa Ph6iHoLo9!a J*UDDA & a!QiDO 8uDDa IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 27.10.04, 19:58
                                          荷鲁斯cryingHorus,也作Heru-sa-Aset荷鲁=沙=阿赛特,Hrw,Hr,以及Hor-Hekenu)是古代埃及神话中法老
                                          的守护神,是王权的象征.他的形象是一位鹰头人身的神祗.

                                          像许多其他神祗一样,荷鲁斯的性质,以及关于他的故事和传说,一直在随着历史的发展而不断变化.可以把
                                          荷鲁斯看作是由许多其他与皇权,天空等有关的神祗组成的合并体.而这些神祗大多是太阳神.这与基督教
                                          中关于上帝的三位一体的说法很相似.

                                          Heru-ur(也称作Harmerti哈默迪wink是荷鲁斯最早的一个版本,他是一位猎鹰形态的造物神.他的眼睛是太
                                          阳和月亮.当新月出现时,他就成了一个瞎子,称作Mekhenty-er-irty(意思是"没有眼睛的人");而当他
                                          的视力恢复时,他又被称作Khenty-irty(意思是"有眼睛的人").眼盲时的荷鲁斯时非常危险的,他有时会
                                          将朋友误认为敌人并发起攻击.他是盖布与努特的儿子,是莱托波里斯cryingLetopolis)的守护神.

                                          孩提时代的荷鲁斯被称为Har-pa-khered(意思是"幼童荷鲁斯",在希腊语中称作Harpocrates),是欧西
                                          里斯与艾西斯或者Banebdjetet与Hatmehit的儿子.他被描绘成一个含着手指的裸体男孩,与母亲一起
                                          坐在一朵莲花上.这种形态的荷鲁斯是一位生育之神,他经常端着一个聚宝盆cryingcornucopia).在罗马帝国
                                          时期,Har-pa-Khered的形象广为流传,当时他被描绘为骑着一只鹅或一头公羊crying注意他的父亲
                                          Banebdjetet就是一位公羊神wink.

                                          后来荷鲁斯被绝对定位为欧西里斯的尸体与艾西斯的儿子crying抑或是羽化自绍席斯cryingSaosis)的洋槐树wink.这
                                          在很多学术著作中通常被引用为"the Horus".

                                          ...............................................
                                          Kiedy przyjęliśmy już prawidłową pozycję ciała koncentrujemy się na oddychaniu.
                                          Oddychanie w praktyce zen odgrywa najważniejszą rolę i nie da się go porównać z
                                          żadnym innym. Jest ono skierowane przede wszystkim na ustalenie powolnego,
                                          silnego i naturalnego rytmu i polega na szczególnej koncentracji na wydechu.
                                          Powinien on być długi, spokojny i głęboki, oraz wywierać na podbrzusze (hara)
                                          swobodny, rozluźniony i skierowany w dół nacisk. Wdech następuje naturalnie,
                                          automatycznie i spontanicznie. Całkowicie opróżnione przez wydech płuca
                                          ponownie się napełniają. Następuje chwilka przerwy i rozpoczyna się wydech.
                                          Koncentracja na wydechu rozwija wielką energię na poziomie pasa, bioder i
                                          nerek. Energetyczne centrum człowieka nie leży bowiem w głowie lecz w splocie
                                          nerwów znajdujących się poniżej pępka.
                                          Powietrze zawiera energię uniwersalnego życia, którą przyjmujemy poprzez płuca
                                          i każdą z komórek. Umiejętność oddychania jest więc bardzo ważna. Zazwyczaj
                                          oddychamy od piętnastu do dwudziestu razy na minutę, w sposób powierzchowny,
                                          wykorzystując jedynie pewną część możliwości płuc. Głębokie i pełne oddychanie
                                          nie ogranicza się tylko do klatki piersiowej i przepony, lecz wywiera nacisk na
                                          jelita, stanowiąc masaż dla wewnętrznych organów i różnych punktów ciała.
                                          Dzięki praktyce zazen taki sposób oddychania staje się powoli przyzwyczajeniem
                                          w codziennym życiu, a nawet podczas snu.
                                          Im bardziej stajemy się uważni na to uniwersalne życie, tym bardziej wzrasta
                                          nasza energia.

                                          ....idem na pi.wo do "wesole9oZawiadowcy" kolo...S7acjiPoludniowejSzokHolmu
                                          a wczo7aj cwiczylem j8.UDO....smile))

                                          allWaYz7eaDY....wink

                                          33 ksiezyce ...cassini ? sa7u7nUS

                                          8uDDa
                                    • Gość: Dogen Re: Moments!nnoGraV vithEMpTy hands... IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 28.10.04, 03:27
                                      Whether time has it's end or beginning or not, there is no absolute present, past or future (although some of the Bing Bang people might disagree). Well, so, there is only constant change, conversion, infinite motion. But a human observer thinks that he/she lives always Now. Somewhere in between Past that is perceived as memories and bonds, extended through various group identities, memories and myths, and Future, which is seen as a set of expectations and hopes, and which can be extended in the same way: through feelings of participation in something that ties with time with greater strength that one human Self. The present is exactly that - a moment. A snapshot. A motion that stopped. Things in a moment have only states: location, velocity, temperature, an arrow (color?) instead of direction, etc. Events do not take place in moments, they take place in durations. A moment has no duration and that is why nothing can occur "in the present moment" even though the present moment (let's call it Moment) truly exists. If a perception, for example, is an event, it cannot occur in a Moment.

                                      The whole point is that a human observer, no matter what time it is, tends to think that he/she lives always Nowwink But the only way we can conceive of the Moment is through consciousness. Consciousness is a process, not a state. If not taking into account any "afterlives," one can stop consciousness only through literally killing it. So, by our very nature, as long as we belong to life, we are unable to experience the Moment - the Now.

                                      In fact, we are not equipped to perceive events, as well. How could we? Events belong to the Outside - a physical world. We are unable to observe physical occurrences because we are not able – not equipped - to focus on When in which they are taking place. Instead, we observe our suppositions about the most probable course of events and interpret these observations with something that could be called an educated guess based on past memories and future expectations - and than we “behave”. For the same purpose our consciousness experiences but cannot be experienced by itself or whoever. So a pragmatic approach will reject to conceptualize consciousness and focus on keeping it empty enough to permit for new experiences.

                                      We can't catch on Moments, we can't penetrate Events, but are able to perceive Durations, although our sense of duration could be easily confused - our consciousness tends to interpret it's signals in the same way as it interprets that what it identifies as Moments and Events. So perhaps there is no bridge to cross and have better view of Now. There is only Duration. Strange... A perception of time? Why is that? What is that? A human being unable to perceive the finite has a sense of infinity?
                                      • Gość: 1963 timetravel IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 29.10.04, 17:20
                                        Human beings have always tried to explain the world around them. They have
                                        worked to organize it, to measure it, and to understand it. These efforts at
                                        understanding such basic concepts as space and time and light have led to many
                                        discoveries. In the last one hundred years many changes have been made to how
                                        we understand these concepts. You may not be able to move as quickly and easily
                                        through time as the hero of H.G. Well's Time Machine, but scientists have been
                                        able to understand how certain variables can affect time - to slow it down and
                                        speed it up - leading them to believe that it is possible that time travel may
                                        become possible. Before looking at time travel, an understanding of the terms
                                        and history are required. Space, time, and light have been studied and the
                                        definitions have evolved as research has advanced. Looking at these concepts as
                                        they have been explained through history will help us understand what may be
                                        possible in the future.


                                        Over history many people have come up with many different views about what time
                                        is and what space is, and how to understand them. Space was defined be Euclid,
                                        a Greek mathematician. He was the creator of geometry in 295 B.C.


                                        Geometry explained the visible world of three-dimensions. Points on a plane can
                                        be located with coordinates. These coordinates were called the Euclidean
                                        coordinate system, but were also sometimes called the Cartesian coordinate
                                        system. Soon after the Euclidean coordinate system was made a rule called the
                                        Pythagorean rule that could locate the distance between any two points in a
                                        Euclidean coordinate system graph. The rule said that a simple equation was all
                                        that was needed to find the distance between two points, the equation is:

                                        L122 = (X2 - X1)2 + (Y2 - Y1)

                                        This original idea of how to understand space leads to many discoveries in the
                                        future, like locating points using three points, and then soon on to four.

                                        Isaac Newton created the three basic laws of motion and the law of gravity
                                        which governs modern physics today. All of the physical world became
                                        predictable and orderly using his laws. Isaac Newton was used to modeling space
                                        using the Euclidean distance function, but he wanted to also graph time so he
                                        created space-time graphs where distance was the x-axis and time was the y-
                                        axis. This was a revolutionary graph because it showed not only things moving
                                        through space but also through time. Newton said, "Absolute, true, and
                                        mathematical time, of itself, and from its own nature, flows equably, without
                                        relation to anything external."
                                        Isaac Newton



                                        Isaac Newton was right about some of his ideas about time but he was wrong
                                        about others. For instance, he said that time is absolute. His theory for this
                                        was that if a pulse of light is sent from one place to another, different
                                        observers would agree on the time it took for the light to get from one place
                                        to the next (since time is absolute), but the two observers would not always
                                        agree on the distance the light traveled (since space is not absolute). Since
                                        the speed of light is simply the distance divided by time, different observers
                                        would measure different speeds of light.


                                        This is where Einstein disagreed with Newton, because in Einstein's relativity
                                        all observers must agree on the speed of light because it never changes. In
                                        Einstein's theory, since the two observers don't agree on the distance the
                                        light has traveled, they must disagree on the time it took for the light to go
                                        between the two places. The time taken is the distance the light traveled,
                                        which the observers don't agree on, divided by the speed of light, which they
                                        do agree on. In other words, Einstein put an end to the idea that time is
                                        absolute. Since time is relative, space must be relative too.


                                        Einstein came up with a formula for his relative time that has to do with you
                                        speed and its effect on time. This formula is called the time dilation factor.
                                        The formula is:

                                        (1 - (U/c)2)1/2
                                        (U=speed, c=speed of light)


                                        The time dilation factor theory says that the faster you go the slower time
                                        gets for you, because of the fact that time is elastic and relative, not
                                        constant. "Time is not absolutely defined," said Einstein in his theory of
                                        special relativity. He tried to explain how time and space are connected and
                                        that this space-time could be stretched and shrunk. The method for stretching
                                        and shrinking time is very simple - all you have to do is move very fast. This
                                        theory, called the time dilation factor theory, has been tested many times. One
                                        example of a test took place in 1971 when two physicists, Joe Hafele and
                                        Richard Keating, took very accurate atomic clocks and put them in airplanes,
                                        which they then flew around the world. They then compared the readings on the
                                        clocks in the planes to an identical clock on the ground. The results were
                                        unmistakable; the clocks in the planes were 59 nanoseconds slower. This was
                                        exactly the difference in time Einstein had predicted in his time dilation
                                        factor theory. To figure out how much slower time will get, you take your
                                        speed; divide it by the speed of light, square it, subtract your answer from
                                        one, take the square root, and the result is Einstein's time dilation or
                                        slowdown factor.


                                        To understand how this affects time travel a basic knowledge of light and time
                                        is needed. The fastest known thing in the universe can travel 1 meter in
                                        0.000000003335640952 seconds. But what is this fast thing called light? After
                                        years of discussion scientist decided that it is both a particle and a wave. (A
                                        good example of why this is, is a solar pinwheel, where a pinwheel-type thing
                                        is held inside a clear vacuum sealed container that resembles a light bulb, and
                                        when it is sunny out the light particle-waves go through the glass and spin the
                                        wheel). There are many theories based around light and its speed. A very well
                                        know one is part of Einstein's theory of special relativity (E=mc²wink, which
                                        basically means that an object with mass will increase in mass as it get closer
                                        to the speed of light, and because of this increasing mass, increasing energy
                                        will be needed to speed the object even more. So the object needs an infinite
                                        amount of energy to gain the speed of light and when it reaches this point it
                                        will have an infinite mass, thus creating the "light barrier" where nothing
                                        that has mass can reach the speed of light.


                                        Time as most people know it is constant and never changing, but this is very
                                        wrong. Time (according to Einstein) is relative and elastic, meaning that
                                        people are affected by time differently depending on their speed (this theory
                                        allow time travel to seem conceivable). This is called the time dilation
                                        or "slowdown" factor. There are many other affects on time that can allow for
                                        time travel, such as gravity. Gravity slows down time. There have been studies
                                        where scientists have tested these slowdown factors of time. An example of this
                                        is an experiment conducted by Harvard University to see if time acted
                                        differently at different heights. They found that at the top of a building time
                                        was moving slightly faster than on the ground.


                                        With this basic knowledge of time and light it is easier to understand what a
                                        light cone is and how it works. A light cone is built up of three parts: an
                                        event, a future light cone and a past light cone. An event its when something
                                        happens. A future light cone consists of all the paths of light that come from
                                        an event and move through time to the future. A past light cone is made up of
                                        all the paths of light that led up to the event.



                                        Seeing into the past is not as hard as it may seem to be. All you have to do is
                                        look up at the stars on a clear night. The light from the stars has not reached
                                        you so if the stars are millions of years away you could be seeing millions of
                                        year
                                      • Gość: !7737 TIMEs IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 29.10.04, 17:26
                                        The light cone exists at each point of the spacetime and is an invariant
                                        structure. Since the speed of light is an invariant quantity, all “observers”
                                        agree as to which points of the spacetime are illuminated by the popping of the
                                        flashbulb at O. Furthermore, as special relativity is standardly understood,
                                        the speed of light is a limiting speed. No material particle can be accelerated
                                        from a speed less that c to a speed equal to or greater than c. Electromagnetic
                                        radiation (including light) always propagates in a vacuum at speed c. (To see
                                        why c is held to be limiting velocity, speed, see Mermin (1968, Chapter 15) and
                                        Nahin (1999, pp. 342-353 and Tech Note 7.) Given these suppositions, the light
                                        cone structure divides all spacetime into three distinct sorts of regions
                                        relative to each spacetime point O. (See chapters 5 and 6 of Geroch (1978) for
                                        a thorough discussion.)


                                        Figure 3. The Light Cone
                                        First, there are the points from which a photon may travel to O or which may be
                                        reached by a photon from O. We say that these points are lightlike separated
                                        from O. If a photon can travel from O to A, we can indicate this briefly by
                                        writing O ( A. In this case, A lies on the future light cone of O.

                                        Second, there are the points inside (rather than on) the future or past light
                                        cone of O. We say that these points are timelike separated from O. If B is a
                                        point in the spacetime timelike separated from O and future to it (that is,
                                        inside O's future light cone), then a material particle travelling at some
                                        relativistically acceptable speed (that is, less than c) can travel from O to
                                        B. Similarly, a material particle at a point inside the past light cone of O,
                                        can travel at some speed less than c from C to O. In this case we write C (( O;
                                        in the former case, O (( B.

                                        Finally, there are the points of the spacetime that are neither in nor on the
                                        light cone of O. We say that such points are spacelike separated from O. If D
                                        is spacelike separated from O, then no light signal and no material body can
                                        travel from O to D or vice versa, because such travel would require
                                        superluminal speed. If one makes the natural assumption that information and
                                        causal influence are propagated by electromagnetic signals and material
                                        particles, then if D is spacelike separated from O, events or occurrences at O
                                        can have no causal influence at all on events at D.

                                        We have reached this last conclusion by means of quite straightforward
                                        reasoning from the invariance of the speed of light. But consider the following
                                        observation of Torretti (1983, p. 247):

                                        Before Einstein … nobody appears to have seriously disputed that any two events
                                        might be causally related to each other, regardless of their spatial and
                                        temporal distance. The denial of this seemingly modest statement is perhaps the
                                        deepest innovation in natural philosophy brought about by Relativity. It has
                                        completely upset our traditional views of time, space, and causality …
                                        As one illustration of how our traditional views of time and causality are
                                        upset by restricting the propagation of causal influence to the light cone
                                        structure, let us revisit the reasoning of the example of the Andromedean
                                        invasion that we used to illustrate and motivate chronogeometrical fatalism. We
                                        may be able to see now that this reasoning is not so compelling as it first
                                        seemed, and we may be able to see why some philosophers have proposed that we
                                        look at becoming in Minkowski spacetime in a way quite different from the
                                        traditional way.
                                        To make the exposition easier, let us add to the story of the Andromedean
                                        invasion a fourth observer, Ted, who is at rest with respect to Earth (and so
                                        also Andromeda) at the spot where Alice and Bob meet. Ted too defines a
                                        coordinate system or frame of reference, and there is a point at Andromeda (We
                                        can call it D) that (in Ted's frame) is simultaneous with the meeting of Alice
                                        and Bob and Ted. To make our exposition easier still, let us suppose that Alice
                                        and Bob and Ted all set their clocks to read 0 at the instant at which they all
                                        meet.[8] Let us focus on D.

                                        Ted (at the meeting of Alice and Bob) assigns to D the time 0, since it is
                                        simultaneous (in his frame) with his time 0. Alice assigns D (roughly) the
                                        time -3 days, whereas Bob assigns it time (roughly) +3 days. D is, of course,
                                        spacelike separated from O, and we have been at pains to explain that from a
                                        special relativistic standpoint this spacelike separation precludes the
                                        (physical) possibility that there is any causal influence upon D of the events
                                        at O. Once the labelling of spacetime points like D with coordinates is
                                        complete, what further content is there, what further could be meant, by adding
                                        that for Alice and Ted D is real or fixed? If there is indeed no further
                                        content, then what possible implications with regard to ‘reality’ or ‘fixity’
                                        or ‘determinateness’ can be drawn from the fact that Bob labels this point with
                                        a positive number, Alice labels it with a negative number, and Ted labels it
                                        with 0?[9]

                                        A good text in special relativity will sooner or later prove that for any pair
                                        of spacelike separated points (but let us continue to call them O and D) there
                                        is precisely one admissible coordinate system (with O as origin) in which O and
                                        D are simultaneous, an infinity of admissible coordinate systems in which D is
                                        assigned a positive number (that is, in which O occurs before D), and an
                                        infinity of other admissible coordinate systems in which D is assigned a
                                        negative number (that is, in which D occurs before O). What metaphysical
                                        significance could be gleaned from the fact that some observers (the usual
                                        anthropomorphized way to refer to admissible coordinate systems) at O must
                                        assign positive times, some negative times, and one time 0 to the distant event
                                        D, which, again, can not be influenced by and can not itself influence the
                                        events at O, according to special relativity at least?

                                        Inability to provide any positive answer to this question can motivate a
                                        different approach to conceptualizing becoming in Minkowski spacetime, an
                                        approach presented by the philosopher Howard Stein (1968, 1991). The basic idea
                                        of this approach is to begin from or to define concepts in terms of the
                                        geometric structure intrinsic to the spacetime. In the present case, this
                                        approach leads one to try to define ‘becoming’ in terms of spacetime points and
                                        light cones. Pre-relativistically, ‘has become’ is defined relative to a plane
                                        of simultaneity. We have seen the limitations of the notion of a plane of
                                        simultaneity in special relativity. Stein begins, then, by proposing that one
                                        defines the relation of ‘having become’ or ‘already definite’ with respect to
                                        spacetime points. A two-place relation schematically written as Rxy will be
                                        intended to capture the idea that point y has already become or is definite
                                        with respect to point x.

                                        There are two other formal features that this relation R should possess. It
                                        should be transitive — that is, if z has already become with respect to y and y
                                        has already become with respect to x, then it seems reasonable to require that
                                        z has already become with respect to x. It should also be reflexive — that is,
                                        is seems reasonable to require that x has become with respect to x itself.

                                        (We can indicate these conditions briefly as (1) Rzy and Rxz entail Rxy, for
                                        all x, y, z and (2) Rxx, for all x.)
                                        Finally, Stein proposes that the relation R not hold between every two points
                                        in the spacetime. That is, he proposes that given some choice of spacetime
                                        point x, there is at least one distinct point y that has not become, that is
                                        not already definite, with respect to x. But is there any such relation, any
                                        relation that has all these intuitiv
                                        • drf Quantum Mind III 29.10.04, 21:13

                                          Quantum Mind 2003

                                          Consciousness, Quantum Physics and the Brain

                                          March 15-19, 2003, Tucson Convention Center and Leo Rich Theater



                                          Could quantum information be the key to understanding consciousness? Could
                                          consciousness enable future quantum information technology?



                                          The nature of consciousness and its place in the universe remain mysterious.
                                          Classical models view consciousness as computation among the brain's neurons
                                          but fail to address its enigmatic features. At the same time quantum processes
                                          (superposition of states, nonlocality, entanglement.) also remain mysterious,
                                          yet are being harnessed in revolutionary information technologies (quantum
                                          computation, quantum cryptography and quantum teleportation). A relation
                                          between consciousness and quantum effects has been pondered for nearly a
                                          century, and in the past decades quantum processes in the brain have been
                                          invoked as explanations for consciousness and its enigmatic features. Critics
                                          deride this comparison as a mere "minimization of mysteries" and quickly point
                                          out that the brain is too warm for quantum computation which in the
                                          technological realm requires extreme cold to avoid "decoherence", loss of
                                          seemingly delicate quantum states by interaction with the environment. However
                                          quantum computation would surely be advantageous from an evolutionary
                                          perspective, and biology has had 4 billion years to solve the decoherence
                                          problem and evolve quantum mechanisms. Furthemore recent experimental evidence
                                          suggests quantum nonlocality occurring in conscious and subconscious brain
                                          function, and functional quantum processes in molecular biology are becoming
                                          more and more apparent. Moreover macroscopic quantum processes are being
                                          proposed as intrinsic features in cosmology, evolution and social
                                          interactions. Following the first "Quantum Mind" conference held in Flagstaff
                                          at Northern Arizona University in 1999, "Quantum Mind II" will update current
                                          status and future directions, and provide dialog with skeptical criticism of
                                          the emerging paradigm.

                                          www.consciousness.arizona.edu/quantum-mind2/
                                          www.astrosociety.org/education/resources/scifi07.html
                                          arxiv.org/abs/physics/0001035
                                          motionmountain.dse.nl/welcome.html
                                        • Gość: 7!3e 7ur!57 Zer0 Goes IrRationAL inNoGrav! IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 29.10.04, 23:10
                                          ”You may not be able to move as quickly and easily through time as the hero of H.G. Well's Time Machine, but scientists have been able to understand how certain variables can affect time - to slow it down and speed it up - leading them to believe that it is possible that time travel may become possible. Before looking at time travel, an understanding of the terms and history are required.”

                                          If one drops Moment onto a straight line, it will be represented by a point 0 that divides past (P)from future(F):

                                          P____________________|___________________F

                                          A Moment truly exists; it has no duration. What does it mean? Something strange goes on in a neighborhood of t=0. P and F do not transform smoothly one into another because in no point P=0 or F=0. Instead, they asymptotically expand to infinity when they approach t=0. Or, one can say that a duration of Moment equals 0, and simultaneously tends to infinity, due to it's relation to P and F. In another words, it equals 0 and tends to infinity because it's duration is defined by P and F. Time becomes a parabola. To draw it one more axis has to be added:

                                          home.germany.net/100-441770/parabel1.jpg

                                          or look at the boundaries of the light cone here:

                                          themaclellans.com/tt_lightcones2.gif
                                          Or: [CrossRoadShot]

                                          So, “time as most people know it is constant and never changing, but this is very wrong.” It is just a horizontal projection of a time curve. Perhaps a human being is able to perceive not only the projection; in the surroundings of a 0 the observer can sense his/her distance from a curve. A depth of infinity.

                                          "Time is not absolutely defined," said Einstein in his theory of special relativity. He tried to explain how time and space are connected and that this space-time could be stretched and shrunk.”

                                          “Time (according to Einstein) is relative and elastic, meaning that people are affected by time differently depending on their speed (this theory allow time travel to seem conceivable). This is called the time dilation or "slowdown" factor. There are many other affects on time that can allow for time travel, such as gravity. Gravity slows down time. There have been studies where scientists have tested these slowdown factors of time.”

                                          Sat0r!: look at your sides...wink
                                          • Gość: () k' loom IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 10.11.04, 00:54
                                            Alphanumerics of The Hebrew Alphabet ....
                                            As for zero, although it is to be found in Arabic, known as sif'r from which is
                                            derived the English word cipher, it is called in Hebrew loh k' loom, nothing or
                                            nonexistent, and is therefore not part of the Hebrew alphabet and
                                            alphanumerics.
                                            ....
                                            The Digital Root

                                            A standard arithmetical procedure in which the digits in any number are added
                                            to each other to produce the sum of the digits, as previously demonstrated; the
                                            same holds true for 'clusters of letters' called 'words.'
                                            ...

                                            altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefstol.htm
                                            The Tree of Life is an arrangement of ten interconnected spheres (called
                                            sephiroth, Hebrew for 'spheres'), which Represent the central organizational
                                            system of the Jewish Kabbalistic tradition. The Tree of life is considered to
                                            be a map of the universe and the psyche, the order of the creation of the
                                            cosmos, and a path to spiritual illumination. The ten spheres represent the ten
                                            archetypal numbers of the Pythagorian system; they are connected by paths
                                            assigned to the twenty two letter-numbers of the Hebrew alphabet.

                                            The Kabbalistic tree of life has evolved over time. Its basic design is based
                                            on descriptions given in the Sefer Yetsirah, or Book of Creation, and expanded
                                            upon in the enourmous Kabbalistic text Zohar, the book of Splendour. The ten
                                            sephira, similar to the Norse tree of life, are divided into four realms:

                                            Atziluth, the realm of the supernal, beyond which is the ain, or no-thing.

                                            Beriah, the creative world, of archetypes and ideals.

                                            Yetsirah, the world of formation.

                                            Assiah, manifest creation, the material world.

                                            altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/blsymbols.htm
                                            altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsnineworlds.htm
                                            www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/davinci
                                            Pythagoras taught that each number had its own peculiar character, virtues, and
                                            properties:

                                            The unit, or the monad is the principle and the end of all; it is the sublime
                                            knot which binds together the chain of causes; it is the symbol of identity, of
                                            equality, of existence, of conservation, and of general harmony. Having no
                                            parts, the monad represents Divinity; it announces also order, peace, and
                                            tranquility, which are founded on unity of sentiments. Consequently, ONE is a
                                            good principle.

                                            The number two, or the dyad, the origin of contrasts, is the symbol of
                                            diversity, or inequality, of division and of separation. Two is accordingly an
                                            evil principle, a number of bad augury, characterizing disorder, confusion, and
                                            change.

                                            Three, or the triad, is the first of unequals; it is the number containing the
                                            most sublime mysteries, for everything is composed of three substances; it
                                            represents God, the soul of the world, the spirit of Man. This number, which
                                            plays so great a part in the traditions of Asia, and in the Platonic
                                            philosophy, is the image of the attributes of God.

                                            Four, or the tetrad, as the first mathematical power, is also one of the chief
                                            elements; it represents the generating virtue, whence come all combinations; it
                                            is the most perfect of numbers; it is the root of all things. It is hly by
                                            nature, since it constitutes the Divine essence by recalling His unity, His
                                            power, His goodness, and His wisdom, the four perfections which especially
                                            characterize God. Consequently, Pythagoricians swear by the quaternary number,
                                            which gives the human soul its eternal nature.

                                            The number five, or the pentad, has a peculiar force in sacred expiations; it
                                            is everything; it stops the power of positions and is redoubted by evil
                                            spirits.

                                            The number six, or the hexad, is a fortunate number and it derives its merit
                                            from the first sculptors having divided the face into six portions. But,
                                            according to the Chaldeans, the reason is because God created the world in six
                                            days.

                                            Seven, or the heptad, is a number very powerful for good or for evil. It
                                            belongs especially to sacred things.

                                            The number eight, or the octad, is the first cube, that is to say, squared in
                                            all senses, as a die, proceeding from its base two, an even number; so is Man
                                            four-square, or perfect.

                                            The number nine, or the ennead, being the multiple of three, should be regarded
                                            as sacred.

                                            Finally, ten, or the decad, is the measure of all, since it contains all the
                                            numeric relations and harmonies. As the reunion of the four first numbers, it
                                            plays an eminent part, since all the branches of science
                                            • drf HerMenEUtiX 15.11.04, 22:44
                                              The word hermeneutics comes to us from the name of the Greek god Hermes. Hermes
                                              was Zeus’ messenger, the one he would send down to the world of humans whenever
                                              he wanted to tell the ancient Greeks something. That is, Hermes would have to
                                              interpret Zeus’ wishes to the humankind. As you can imagine, this wasn’t an
                                              easy task. First, Hermes would have to be sure that he understood what Zeus’
                                              message was, which he would do by asking Zeus questions to make sure he
                                              understood. Then he would have to find just the right words to communicate the
                                              message to the Greeks, that is, he would have to interpret the message to them,
                                              so that there were no misunderstandings (if there were, Zeus could get pretty
                                              angry). So, coming from Hermes’ name, the original use of the word hermeneut
                                              was for someone who interpreted messages.
                                              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                              www.svcc.edu/academics/classes/murray/hum210/hermwho.htm
                                              ........................................

                                              My "specific" perhaps best falls under the heading of "phenomenology"
                                              (and "culture" and "politics" as well). The question has been posed: "If we
                                              absorb postmodernism, if we recognize the variety and ungroundedness of
                                              grounds, but do not want to stop in arbitrariness, relativism, or aporia what
                                              comes after postmodernism?" I believe that the beginnings of an "after
                                              postmodernism" can clearly be discerned in that philosophical discipline known
                                              as phenomenological hermeneutics.

                                              www.focusing.org/apm_papers/madison.html
                                              www.brocku.ca/english/courses/4F70/ph.html
                                              ...................................
                                              Look, it cannot be seen - it is beyond form.
                                              Listen, it cannot be heard - it is beyond sound.
                                              Grasp, it cannot be held - it is intangible.
                                              These three are indefinable, they are one.
                                              From above it is not bright;
                                              From below it is not dark:
                                              Unbroken thread beyond description.
                                              It returns to nothingness.
                                              Form of the formless,
                                              Image of the imageless,
                                              It is called indefinable and beyond imagination.

                                              Stand before it - there is no beginning.
                                              Follow it and there is no end.
                                              Stay with the Tao, Move with the present.

                                              Knowing the ancient beginning is the essence of Tao.




                                              www.chebucto.ns.ca/Philosophy/Taichi/taoism.html
                                              ........................................................

                                              Private Language
                                              The idea of a private language was made famous in philosophy by Ludwig
                                              Wittgenstein, who in section 243 of his book Philosophical Investigations
                                              explains it thus: ‘The words of this language are to refer to what can be known
                                              only to the speaker; to his immediate, private, sensations. So another cannot
                                              understand the language.’ [My translation.] This is not intended to cover
                                              (easily imaginable) cases of recording one's experiences in a personal code,
                                              for such a code, however obscure in fact, could in principle be deciphered.
                                              What Wittgenstein had in mind is a language conceived as necessarily
                                              comprehensible only to its single originator because the things which define
                                              its vocabulary are necessarily inaccessible to others.
                                              Immediately after introducing the idea, Wittgenstein goes on to argue that
                                              there cannot be such a language. The importance of drawing philosophers'
                                              attention to a largely unheard-of notion and then arguing that it is
                                              unrealizable lies in the fact that an unformulated reliance on the possibility
                                              of a private language is arguably essential to mainstream epistemology,
                                              philosophy of mind and metaphysics from Descartes to versions of the
                                              representational theory of mind which became prominent in late twentieth
                                              century cognitive science.

                                              plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/
        • jenisiej Fajny duet - Mandelbrot i Blake 26.10.04, 00:58
          Mandelbrot:

          ...After I finish presenting this sample of problems, I shall show a collection
          of slides that demonstrate what certain shapes of mathematics really look like.
          The need to draw these shapes arose in the course of my work because of their
          scientific importance: they help my ideas and theories become accepted, and
          they help me to generate new ideas and theories. Yet many of these shapes seem
          to strike everyone as being of exceptional and totally unexpected plastic
          beauty. Some have the beauty of the mountains and the clouds that they are
          indeed meant to represent, and others seem wild and unexpected at first, but
          after a very brief inspection come to appear as totally familiar. As a result,
          these slides prove central to a different philosophical issue. What is beauty,
          and is there any relation between the beauty of these mathematical pictures and
          the beauty that a mathematician sees in his trade after long and strenuous
          practice?

          Blake:

          The prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel dined with me, and I asked them how they dared
          so roundly to assert that God spoke to them; and whether they did not think at
          the time that they would be misunderstood, and so be the cause of imposition.
          Isaiah answered: "I saw no God, nor heard any, in a finite organical
          perception; but my senses discovered the infinite in everything, and as I was
          then persuaded, and remain confirmed, that the voice of honest indigation is
          the voice of God, I cared not for consequences, but wrote."

          smile
          • patience Kolejny fraktallister pszylaz:( 26.10.04, 01:08
            A dlaczego nie mozna sobie porozmawiac o czyms innym? na przyklad o warunkach pogodowych sklaniajacych do szukania cieplych przystani? Hydraulice? Czyli all about sex?
            • jenisiej Re: Kolejny fraktallister pszylaz:( 26.10.04, 01:42
              patience napisała:

              > A dlaczego nie mozna sobie porozmawiac o czyms innym? na przyklad o warunkach
              > pogodowych sklaniajacych do szukania cieplych przystani?

              A co, we Wrocku zimno? W Wawce upały prawiesmile

              > Hydraulice?

              Ech, musisz tak przyziemnie? Mam jakieś uszczelki powymieniać w kranach, nie
              lubię się w tym grzebać. No dobra, może jutrowink

              > Czyli all about sex?

              Cicho, bo znowu komuś podpadniemywink

              Całuski dla Ciebie, Doktorową dłoń ściskam, i odpadam - strasznie się
              zmęczyłem, bom tych poetów wyżej ręcznie wbijał. Może coś wreszcie skrobniesz
              na priva?

              Pasmile
              • patience Re: Kolejny fraktallister pszylaz:( 26.10.04, 01:49
                > Cicho, bo znowu komuś podpadniemywink

                Akurat. Kolejny udajacy ze chodzi o uszczelki w kranach i niepodpadanie.

                > zmęczyłem, bom tych poetów wyżej ręcznie wbijał. Może coś wreszcie skrobniesz
                > na priva?

                A co, ty skrobiesz? Do Doktora skrobiesz!
          • Gość: ManDe7B14|<e 3!0 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 01:30
            0!0!0!
            wink
            • patience Ja was nie chce pomawiac o homoseksualizm 26.10.04, 01:34
              Ale skoro rozmawia 2 facetow o innych 2 facetach, co moze pomyslec dama, ktora miedzy nimi stoi, z niezaspokojana potrzeba porozmawiania o czymn innym? He?
              • Gość: zaSpokoj zaspokojenie potrzeb IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 01:56
                6pokoj
                (.)
                • patience Re: zaspokojenie potrzeb 26.10.04, 02:06
                  > 6pokoj

                  Nie da rady! Za szybko! Trzeba miec naukowe podejscie!
                  Najpierw musi byc:
                  6poko9
                  potem:
                  6poko!
                  potem:
                  !poko9
                  a potem:
                  .poko.

                  ale moze tez byc:
                  6poko9
                  6!poko!9
                  !poko!
                  .poko.

                  hihii
                  • Gość: e609 2a5poko!e n!e p0t3ze6 !6ek9!llNYcH IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 02:24
                    !6ek9!ru1eZeX!!!

                    XtaZEN6eX
                    .7.5
                    • patience Re: 2a5po7o!e n!e p07z96 !6ek9!llNYcH 26.10.04, 02:55
                      Xtat!c XIs7enCE
                      7oUchPad

                      .7.5 driv32
                      • Gość: 90k0! eX7a2!a IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 08:44
                        23mySLy
                        D077Ku
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                        • Gość: 33 Re: ex 7end !) A2!a IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 26.10.04, 18:59
                          3!.K.9
                          • Gość: 易分散。 />\<: |{[><\ _\\";;- <.>-)(" IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 26.10.04, 23:53
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                            • Gość: />\<|>|_>- Re: />\<: |{[><\ _\\";;- < IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 27.10.04, 00:23
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                              wink
                              • drf UnitedStates0fPOLImeR!KA 27.10.04, 15:14

                                <o>esmile)))))))))(((((((((;>©<
                                <o>esmile)))))))))sad((((((((;>©<
                                <©o()(.....)(((esmile|||||||)>><cryingwink

                                drO0o
                                • Gość: % lo9ikaDialo6u=D!A%G!KA IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 27.10.04, 18:58
                                  pArticle OR wAve, but NEVER at the sametime, both....!

                                  www.zazen.pl/
                                  Co to jest ZAZEN?

                                  Za - oznacza siedzieć,
                                  Zen - całość, wszechświat, ty i wszystko co cię otacza.

                                  Praktykować zazen to usiąść we właściwej pozycji, tam gdzie jesteśmy, takimi
                                  jakimi jesteśmy, usiąść niczego nie pragnąc. Wieczność to praktyka tu i teraz.
                                  Życie jest następstwem teraźniejszych chwil.


                                  dupLex?
                                  • Gość: 65XpiR "A MYSL JEST WOLNA !" IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 28.10.04, 18:07
                                    "ZAKPIJCIE Z NICH, ZADRWIJCIE Z NICH
                                    ZADRWIJCIE Z NICH,ZAKPIJCIE Z NICH
                                    A MYSL JEST WOLNA !!!"
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                                    65XpiR
                                    ................

                                    moze ty masz
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                                      • Gość: ^ Dark Matter IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 07.11.04, 18:49
                                        www.astro.queensu.ca/~dursi/dm-tutorial/cluster-sim.html
                                        www.astro.queensu.ca/~dursi/dm-tutorial/rot-vel.html
                                        Dark matter has important consequences for the evolution of the Universe and
                                        the structure within it. According to general relativity, the Universe must
                                        conform to one of three possible types: open, flat, or closed. The total amount
                                        of mass and energy in the universe determines which of the three possibilities
                                        applies to the Universe. In the case of an open Universe, the total mass and
                                        energy density (denoted by the greek letter Omega) is less than unity. If the
                                        Universe is closed, Omega is greater than unity. For the case where Omega is
                                        exactly equal to one the Universe is "flat".

                                        Note that the dynamics of the Universe are not determined entirely by the
                                        geometry (open, closed or flat) unless the Universe contains only matter. In
                                        our Universe, where most of Omega comes from dark energy, this relation between
                                        the mass density, spatial curvature and the future of the universe no longer
                                        holds. It is then no longer true in this case that "geometry (spatial
                                        curvature) is destiny." Instead, to find out what will happen one needs to
                                        calculate the evolution of the expansion factor of the universe for the
                                        specific case of matter density, spatial curvature and "funny energy" to find
                                        out what will happen.

                                        astron.berkeley.edu/~mwhite/darkmatter/dm.html
                                        Dark Matter
                                        What do scientists look for when they search for dark matter? We cannot see or
                                        touch it: its existence is implied. Possibilities for dark matter range from
                                        tiny subatomic particles weighing 100,000 times less than an electron to black
                                        holes with masses millions of times that of the sun (9). The two main
                                        categories that scientists consider as possible candidates for dark matter have
                                        been dubbed MACHOs (Massive Astrophysical Compact Halo Objects), and WIMPs
                                        (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles). Although these acronyms are amusing,
                                        they can help you remember which is which. MACHOs are the big, strong dark
                                        matter objects ranging in size from small stars to super massive black holes
                                        (1). MACHOs are made of 'ordinary' matter, which is called baryonic matter.
                                        WIMPs, on the other hand, are the little weak subatomic dark matter candidates,
                                        which are thought to be made of stuff other than ordinary matter, called non-
                                        baryonic matter. Astronomers search for MACHOs and particle physicists look for
                                        WIMPs.
                                        Astronomers and particle physicists disagree about what they think dark matter
                                        is. Walter Stockwell, of the dark matter team at the Center for Particle
                                        Astrophysics at U.C. Berkeley, describes this difference. "The nature of what
                                        we find to be the dark matter will have a great effect on particle physics and
                                        astronomy. The controversy starts when people made theories of what this matter
                                        could be--and the first split is between ordinary baryonic matter and non-
                                        baryonic matter" (10). Since MACHOs are too far away and WIMPs are too small to
                                        be seen, astronomers and particle physicists have devised ways of trying to
                                        infer their existence.

                                        www.eclipse.net/~cmmiller/DM/
                                        ......................................

                                        'The award-winning science writers reveal how the trilogy is rooted in
                                        astonishing scientific truth. Drawing on string theory and spacetime, quantum
                                        physics and chaos theory, they answer fascinating questions such as: ''Could
                                        parallel worlds, like Will and Lyra's, really exist?''. ''How does Will's
                                        subtle knife cut through anything?''. ''Could there be a bomb like the one made
                                        with Lyra's hair?''. And, of course: ''What are the Dark Materials?''.'
                                        (Amazon)

                                        www.randomhouse.com/features/pullman/goldencompass/index.html

                                        polecam
                                        wink
                                        • drf Quiet wait In the white fabric On the route .... 08.11.04, 12:16
                                          Quiet wait In the white fabric On the route through Cotton Pass: The Strategy
                                          of Exit To the sky

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        • Gość: ידישIJC INTERNAZIONALISTYCZNA ZYDOVSKA KONSPIRAKCJA IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 10.11.04, 10:06
          www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com/
          Presidential Debate Special: Who Won and How?
          Member Poll Results and Insider Peeks

          An internal poll has asked the International Jewish Conspiracy’s Membership to
          chart their reaction to the three presidential and one vice-presidential
          debate. Results pointed to a clear victory for the IJC.
          read more>
          PLUS: Three Questions for Herbert Stimel, Personal Debate Therapist and Psychic
          Friend to Bush

          INJEWCON Election Roundup
          • Bush's Case for Crusade
          • GOP Graffiti Attack
          • "I Am Not a Waiter"
          • Lizard Caucus
          • The "Daddy Debates"

          Bush Makes Crusade Case to IJC Election Council
          Hopes "Christ Killer Types" Will Stand Behind Him
          An International Jewish Conspiracy Behind-the-Scenes Exclusive

          Goyopresident George Bush met earlier this week with senior IJC members to
          address concerns that his plans for a "Big-ass Crusade" would spill over into
          an anti-Semitic progrom "like it always does." The meeting at the 92nd Street Y
          was held under the tightest security in the
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          allowed entrance only after a series of complex passwords and security checks
          had been passed. The tight security was deemed necessary because some (names
          withheld) members had threatened to smack Goyopresident Bush, stating, “We are
          just so sick of his shit.” more>



          GOP Conference Space Suffers Graffiti Attack
          Giant Terrorist Hand Sought, Writing Banned
          An International Jewish Conspiracy Behind-the-Scenes Exclusive

          George W. Bush, the goy President of the United States, held a great feast for
          a thousand of his most important political allies, and drank wine in front of
          the thousand. Mr. Bush, when he tasted the wine, commanded that vessels of gold
          and of silver, which George Herbert Walker Bush
          had skimmed off social security, be brought, that Mr. Bush and his Republican
          allies might drink from them. They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold and
          silver, bronze, iron, wood, and crude oil. more>



          "I'm Not a Waiter - I'm Secretary of State"
          Candidate James Hart Requests Clarification

          GOP candidate James Hart has requested that black party members be made to
          wear special “I’m Not A Waiter” T-shirts while attending the Convention in New
          York. He told organizers he was tired of his fellow Republicans “getting all
          uppity” when asked to serve him liquor or hand him towels in the men’s room.
          The request comes after a recent altercation witha delegate from
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          has to teach you some manners?’ Wasn’t like I weren’t polite. But now he’s all
          pansy-ass sensitive about it.” more>



          Interdimensional Lizard Caucus Showing Cracks?
          Shape-shifting Aliens Call For Change
          An International Jewish Conspiracy Weird Exclusive

          The Interdimensional Lizard Caucus may be split for the first time in its
          3,000-year history of Earth habitation. Traditionally the various species of
          travelers have left their differences behind at election times and simply come
          out strongly for the most oppressive party running, cementing their
          bond with the Republican Party during the Goldwater candidacy. This (Earth)
          year, however, things may be different. more>



          “Daddy Debate” Cancelled
          Mel Gibson's father will not be allowed to contact the spirit of Arnold
          Schwarzenegger's father for a special debate during a prime-time convention slot
          The International Jewish Conspiracy has put the kibosh on Republican convention
          organizers’ plans to have Mel Gibson’s father, Hutton, who denies that the
          Holocaust ever occurred, use the services of a Psychic Friend medium to debate
          Gustav Schwarzenegger, who helped make it happen.
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