Roger jeszcze musi poczekać na zgodę FIFA, aby ...

[jorge.martinez]

Mam nadzieję że nie zdążymy.

Nie zes.... sie z tym cieniasem

[Gość: Komar]

Temat o Boruc-hu sie skonczyl to nowy bohatejro sie znalazl.

[kkrzysie.kk]

To ja juz wolałem temay o Arturze. Przynajmniej można było przeczytać i się
uśmiechnąć. A o Roger'ze to sam nie wiem co mam robić. Moim zdaniem jeśli może
pomóc reprze to należy go powołać. Jeśli nie to po co tyle w ogóle o mim pisać.
Z jednej strony przynajmniej zakończyli temat Kuszczaka. Zobaczymy, mnie wydaję
się, że Roger nie zostanie powołany. Całą afere zapewne rozdmuchali dziennikarze

Roger jeszcze musi poczekać na zgodę FIFA, aby ..

[Gość: tasak]

Polska dla Polaków !!, Roger ? NIE !!

Swojej opini nie zmienię, choćby Roger został najlepszym graczem ME. Leo
popieram w 100%, oprócz tej decyzji.

Polak musi być Polakiem, a nie Brazylijczykiem w przebraniu.

[Gość: Martin Dahlin]

Im half polish and i must say that im ashamed of reading all the racist comments
from people about Roger. I live in Sweden and i remember back in the world cup
of 1994 the polish commentators were talking about the swedish team that they
had so many people of foreign background and yet they all played for each other.
I think that the ignorant comments about Roger should stop, if you dont like him
playing in the team, you either put on your soccer boots and try for a place on
the team, or just realize that you are a pathetic loser with no skill compared
to Roger and you should stick to being a loser and stop whining about it.
Without Roger Poland will lose every match or maybe get a draw but thats not
going to be enough. I think some polish people need to stop being so ignorant or
Poland will never become anything good, not in soccer or elsewhere

[Gość: hiszpan]

I don't think so, if having a national identity means being a racist. There
wouldn't be any cricicism, if Roger had Polish origins, lived here for 10 years
or just simply be a POLE! It's a national team, not a club.

[Gość: Martin Dahlin]

Here in Sweden we are richer than Poland and a more civilized country than
Poland. And I think i have the right on my side to say that you need to shut the
hell up with your stinking primitive comments about Roger on this site, cause
i've read enough ignorant bullshit here to last me for a whole lifetime. Realize
you got no point in the matter, Roger has his roots in Brazil, thats a fact, but
he wants his future to be polish why do you have to be so hateful against him, i
think that its just to much.

[Gość: Pio]

Roger is a shit player. Yeah Sweaden is more civilised country lol :).

You may be richer, but be dumber in every other aspect. Roger is not a Pole. He
is Brazilian and as second nation he is Polish.

It's not rasism. He does not speak polish, he does not anything about this
country and I bet you didn't have players who where not Swedish back then, so
shut up yourself :).

[Gość: M]

You should be happy he even wants to play for Poland, what is it to know about
it?? About the smok in the cave in Krakow??? You must be the dumbest shit i've
ever heard, you poles come here to Sweden and take any job you can and complain
about a soccer player with more skill than you ever seen wants to play for the
national team, c'mon people get a grip, you should cheer for him and not sit and
write bullshit racist ignorant opinions about him on the internet, if you have
something to bring on the field then bring it, if not i suggest you shut up,
becuase soccer is a game for everyone and not a polish sport just for white
people with polish roots, you should even bring olisadebe on he has scored 11
goals on 25 matches, Marek Saganowski hasnt scored for 1000 minutes and the
other players are reserves or never score, and you dont complain about them.

civilized sweden

[Gość: primitive polak]

Ooooh, please do enlighten us, mr cosmopolitan half swede. Indeed, we are
primitive! I see that your "civilized" swedish educational system has done a
splendid job of indoctrinating your brain with this civilized superiority
nonsense...please do leave us to our primitive ways, and take your
pseudo-civilized erudition back to civilized Sweden, if you don't understand
*WHY* most people here are against roger representing us.

[Gość: M]

The truth hurts, Sweden always beats Poland in soccer, and you always cry like
babys and now you have a chance to have a player with some skills and you cry
like babys again, so what the hell is the problem, you want to be losers all
your life and keep losing. I remember when poland played against sweden last
time around and i was cheering for Poland and i was so ashamed of all the
stinking players, and now i have a chance to see a good player in the team and
you guys keep talking crap, what you want Hajto back again or what??

[Gość: primitive polak]

Don't you understand the concept of a *national* team? Very few people in
Poland argue that Roger shouldn't play because he is brown or latin or blue.
Roger has absolutely no affiliations to Poland. He received a fast track
citizenship, barely speaks two words in polish and publicly stated in the past
that his dream has always been to play for the canarinhos (his *true*
nationality, his roots his heart). Poland is barely a second choice for him,
because he is not good enough to represent brasil. Playing for poland is
probably a good way to promote himself to foreign club managers so that he can
flee from Poland as soon as he has a chance. And that is why I don't want him
on the team, even if he scores 10 goals. Otherwise, the concept of "national"
teams (not only Polish) is rather moot. let's be civilized and drop the notion
of nationality in the first place!

[Gość: M]

Well Zlatan Ibrahimovic plays for Sweden and he is born and raised in Sweden and
still doesnt know how to speak proper swedish, he doesnt act "swedish" and he
doesnt look Swedish. The racist people in Sweden tried to talk him down like you
guys talk about Roger, but Zlatan was so good at soccer that the racist people
had to shut the hell up in the end. And it was Leo that made Zlatan a star and
believed in him, now Leo believes in Roger why dont you trust him. If it wasnt
for Leo you guys would never even been in Euro so why are you not thankful?

[Gość: Bob_Arctor]

Dear rich and civilised Swidish gay, U should know a litte bit more
about the situation and it's context before you accuse somebody of
racism. So here is a little summary for you. It's not the Roger's
race that causes many Polish football fans to criticise Benhakker's
decision. It's simply the fact that Roger did nothing for the
Polish national team and he won't do much in future either, he only
wants to promote himself on the European market. Currently he plays
for Legia Warszawa which is banned from the European Cups for the
next two years (not to mention the fact that they might not
qualify). Being the Brasilian he doesn't have a slightest chance of
getting anywhere near the national team. Becomin' the Pole in such a
way is the only possibility for him to show himself to Western
European managers during the important international tournament.
What's more, he's got an EU passport now, another facility for him.
He did nothing to help the team to get to the E. Championship and
I'm bloody sure we'll not see him wearin' white and red t-shirt a
single time after the Championship is over.He is in Poland for less
than a year, why he should be awarded with the honour of playing for
the national team, while there are really skillful Polish mid-
fielders (example Marek Zieńczuk or Ireneusz Jeleń) who worked very
hard and really deserve getting their chance. Couple of years ago we
had Nigerian gay named Emmanuel Olisadebe on the team. He lived in
Poland for years before he was granted with citizenship, he won the
League with Polonia Warszawa, he gave up the possibility of playing
for Nigeria long long before anybody knew that we would qualify for
World Champs 2002 and started playing for Poland, he helped great
deal to get there. He is black as coal and most of the Polish fans
loved him. So you should be more carefull before you start accusing
us of racism. It's not the racism that we want the national team to
consist of the players that are really involved in our case and care
for more than their own career.

[Gość: M]

Hi Bob

Listen here let me school you mind


Roger did nothing to get to Euro thats true, but Leo did, and its Leo idea to
have Roger, so Poland owes Leo to let him decide that.

And second of all, the only striker that deserves to be in Euro is Smolarek, all
the others only missed, missed and missed, but still they get the chance to go
to Euro, and they almost destroyed everything by being so bad that they dont
deserve to go to Euro, i mean Roger deserves it more than Zurawski, he was
horrible, so horrible that he doenst even deserve another chance. Roger
deserves his, and third of all, wichniarek and pisczek are also getting a chance
to go to Euro but they didnt to anything to get to Euro, so why are you guys not
crying over that instead? Why are you polish such bad losers and cry all the
time why dont you act like men, not sissy boys????

you need to learn

[Gość: pacal]

To learn how to take part in a discussion.

Looking at your childish "arguments", deafness to the words of your
counterparts, impoliteness and (last but not least) complete unawareness of the
topic, it'll take time, hell lot of time...

But good luck and be brave, you've just made your first step on this long and
thorny road, young one.

Just one thing, child: How can be a racist someone, who totally accepted
Emmanuel Olisadebe playing in Polish national team, but disapproves Roger Guerreiro?

You won't believe it in your simple, black&white, racial world, but that's got
nothing to do with the race/skin colour...

Don't bother answering, I won't waste more time for you.

[Gość: Bob_Arctor]

You still don't get it, do you? It's POLISH NATIONAL TEAM. If our
players miss certain quality so be it, tough. Thinkin' along your
lines, we should get rid of most of our players (except Ebi
Smolarek, Jacek Krzynówek, maybe Kuba Błaszczykowski and the goal
keepers) and find the foreigners that are better, then offer them
ctizenship and send them to Championship, right? Is it the way we
should go according to you? But wait, there hundrend of players from
Brasil, Argentina, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Cost, Italy, Spain,
France, Neatherlands, England...and so on, that are actualy miles
and miles better than any SWIDISH player. Would your suggestion be
to swap your original players for the better ones from abroad, to
achieve the aimed goal of winning in this tournament or another? Why
not?

[wiloughby]

great. maybe you are more civilized. but we talk about a man who lives here 3 years and can't speak polish. with no hate I don't like this idea. this is not the way to build anything.

[Gość: M]

He is learning, he doesnt speak it so good now, but perhaps he is a little bit
slow in the learning process but i see when you polish guys talk about Roger you
are telling me he lived 3 years in Poland when you are talking about that he
doesnt speak polish, and 2 years when you are talking about him not lived long
enough in Poland. The point is you are all hypocritical.

Last time against Germany Poland didnt have the heart to beat them, they didnt
have any player who could step up and do something big, and you guys still dont
have it, but you are right, perhaps Roger doesnt know the language and he hasnt
got polish roots, but he has enough heart to stick it to the german assholes,
and for that he has to play.

Roger jeszcze musi poczekać na zgodę FIFA, aby ..

[Gość: Jurek]

W japoni gra Alessandro dos Santos nikt chyba o nim nic nie mowil ale on jest
najleszpy grac dla nich i japonia nigdy nie przegrala meczu w ktorym on zrobil gola

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_dos_Santos

[Gość: niekomiczny]

Bardzo "dobry" przyklad z tym zawodnikiem.
Tylko ze akurat jest kilka roznic ktore dyskwalifikuja Rogera po porwnaniu z
Alessandro.
Japonski Brazylijczyk przyjechal do Japonii gdy mial 16 lat.
Polski przyjechal do Polski w wieku 24 lat.
Japonczyk dostal obywatelstwo po 8 latach.
Polak po 2.
Japonczyk byl najlepszy w kraju (zdobywal nagrody)
Polak nie.

Najlepszym porownaniem z tym Alessandro dos Santos bylby w Polsce przyklad
Vahana Gevorgyana ktory przyjechal do Polski jako nastolatek i po kilku latach
otrzymal obywatelstwo.
W jego przypadku nie bylo jakos klopotow.

[Gość: M]

Ale ty chyba zapuminasz ze tylko jeden raz sie zyje wiec dlacego ma chlowiek
czekak 10 lat na paszport?? Czeba dzialac, sie po polsku mowi chyba o tym
zapomniales.

[Gość: niekomiczny]

I am not saying he (Roger) has to wait 10 years.
I just pointed out that this football player has not much common with Poland
comparing to case of Alessandro and Japan.
If there were typical reasons (family connections, long period of living in
Poland, good knowledge of language and history of Poalnd) to grant him polish
citizenship there would be no controversy. Right now the only reason is his
football playing.
Other civilized countries (Netherland, Austria) still keep this principle and
don´t grant citizenship to somebody only because this person is good football
player.
If we follow your advice why not just go to South America, Spain or Italy
(places with big numbers of talented footballers), find around 20 really good
ones and simply grant them polish citizeship. They don´t even have to ever live
in Poland, they would just play for polish national team. How about that?

Roger jeszcze musi poczekać na zgodę FIFA, aby ..

[Gość: Pomyslodawca]

cytat: Prawdopodobnie osobiście zawiozę dokumenty do FIFA, żeby nie leżały po szufladach.

Przegapilscie wszyscy sedno informacji...
Panie Listkiewicz, proponuje zabrac ze soba jakas ladna sekretarke,
ktora bedzie sie znala na tych trudnych obcych jezykach. :-)
Zycze szerokiej drogi i taniego odpoczynku.

[Gość: Lipek]

I tak najlepszym obecnie Polskim piłkarzem jest (poza Borucem) Jakub
Błaszczykowski i w nim przyszłość Polskiej piłki.

Blłędna kołomyja, a PZPN dalej bruździ

[Gość: rabin Izakowicz]

PZPN wytworzył cyrkowy budel. O opinię FIFA zgniłe złodziejaszki pzpn upowinni
wystąpić do FIFA o opinię ewentualności gry Rogera w naszej reprezentacji. Też
dawno temu Leo powinien sprawdzić go w jakichś sparingowych meczach. Obecnie już
nic a nic niewiadomo. Czy warto dalej iść w kierunku mglistego kolatorskiego
zamętu, tzn koszernego szamba?

Where is Sweden? ;-)

[Gość: Amerykanin]

Cytat:Here in Sweden we are richer than Poland and a more civilized country than Poland.

Panie Martinie, co ma bogactwo narodu szwedzkiego do dyskutowanego tematu?
Mam jeszcze jedno pytanie, co ma ucywilizowanie narodu szwedzkiego do
dyskutowanego tematu?
Trzecie pytanie Drogi Panie Martinie abstrachujac od tematu tak jak i Pan sobie na
to pozwolil.
Czy potop szwedzki tez pan uwaza za objaw kulury swojego narodu?

[Gość: EWWWRO]

Hi my polish friend

My point was that you should learn from Sweden and take example from its good
players and the more advanced culture and tolerance towards people from a
different background than yourself. May i remind all you whiners and diners that
Poland only exist because President Wilson gave you the right to even have a
country, if not for America you guys would be eating snitzels and singing german
folksongs right about now. But enough about history, its time for the future,
and the future is that every human has the right to represent the country he
choses, home is where your heart is, and its time you polish farmers start to
realize that. Its like my man leo said, its time for you to get out from your
wooden houses because your attitudes are very naiv and simple minded, even
though some of you have smart opinions about other things you seem very quick to
judge when someone has a darker skin color than yourself.

Im half polish so i know what im talking about, i have always been viewed as a
pole, and i have not suffered from your racism but it bothers me so much that
you are so hateful against a player that only wants to do what he loves most, to
play soccer for a country that gave a chance to make it.


I think that polish soccer sucks big time, and it has done so for a very long
time, the only time i was ever happy watching polish soccer for the last 15
years was when olisadebe played, he was the only danger for the other teams, and
its that danger that roger possesses. You all can forget that a team without
Roger has any chance of making it, a bunch of reserves that always had chances
but never took them, Roger wants to take his, and you want to make his life
miserable for that you all should be ashamed of yourselfs for being racist and
simpleminded polish farmers i wonder why you guys are so angry i mean cmon now
do you guys even have tv's at home to watch "EWWRO" ? its Euro not EWWWRO you
stupid backward people.

[Gość: hiszpan]

I see some idiot is trying to scandalize.

Short answer to you: stfu.


By the way, when Swedish lumberjacks used to eat their own shit, Poland was one
of the richest counntries in Europe, so talking about more "civilized" Swedes is
ridiculous.

[Gość: Amerykanin]

Pan Martin zauwazyl:
May i remind all you whiners and diners that
Poland only exist because President Wilson gave you the right to even have a
country, if not for America you guys would be eating snitzels and singing german
folksongs right about now.

Do niemieckiej przygrywki to szwedzi juz tanczyli i to nieprzymuszani duzo wczesniej,
pozwalajac niemcom na kolezenski transport sprzetu
wojennego. Polacy Pana zdaniem pewnie powinni byli brac przyklad od cywilizowanych szwedow i eksportowac rude na wytop dla niemieckiej armii podczas drugiej wojny swiatowej.:-o

Pan Martin elokwetnie tez zauwazyl:
i live in the future, and so should you, and the future is open borders
and freedom not wooden houses.

Trener Leo Beenhakker nie mial na mysli drewnianych domkow tylko
myslenie niesteretypowe. Jezeli chodzi o drewniane domki skoro o nich
Pan chce mowic to w Szwecji jest ich dzisiaj wiecej niz w polsce.

[Gość: Bob_Arctor]

Now, my dear full of tolerance and culturally advanced friend. You
accuse us of racism in Roger's case, while practically everybody on
this site try to explain that it's not the coulor of Roger's skin
that makes us feel not comfortable with Leo's choice. One might have
an idea, that you want us to be the racist, so you could enlighten
with your presumed "more rich more advanced more culture" attitude.
But the point is, that we are not the racists. It's you who uses
racist vocabulary and has racist attitude: you come here with the
certain opinion about us, while there is no a single racist remark
on Roger in this discussion, you try to offend us all the time
instead of even try to understand our point, you behave as if you
were superior and what right do you have? Only the fact that your
country wasn't so unlucky to be placed in the middle of Europe
between the Germany and the Russia. For you information, it's not
the president's Wilson will that gave the Poland the right to exist,
it was the culture, the language, the history and generations of
brave, tough people who never gave up being Polish although there
seemed to be no hope.You better think what you do yourself before
you try to judge somebody else.

[Gość: Amerykanin]

Dear Bob,
I admire your intellectual discussion with Martin Dahlin.
His simplistic thoughts are not really worthy our time but
it is fun to play with simple minds which believe that economic
status of the country they reside in or questionable culture
gives them right to indoctrinate others. Cool discussion though.

Googer musi czekać - on zagra na EURO lub nie ..

[modlitwa]

Mówiąc w skrócie - Rooger jest nam potrzebny czy nie ... Chyba nie
tzn. jeśli będzie grał lepiej niż Polacy i mieścił się wk adrze
Leo Benhaueera niech gra. Ale ... Kto gra lepiej od Niego, ano i ja
i mój syn i moja żona - i stąd cały problem. Ja jestem sto razy
lepszy niż Roger, itp., itd.

Roger jeszcze musi poczekać na zgodę FIFA, aby ..

[Gość: Szymko]

Taaaa. Polacy z listy 31 muszą zapieprzać i udowodnić, że się nadają a taki Roger, który nie zagrał nigdy w naszej kadrze juz ma pewne miejsce na Euro. A może nie będzie się nadawał do reprezentacji tak jak Zieńczuk i Brożek, którzy w lidze wymiatają a wg Beenhakera do kadry nie pasują.

[Gość: fatality]

pół Szwed? to pewnie jakiś farbowany gej,w dodatku bredzi jak
potłuczony.