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13.07.05, 18:05
oni i ich przyjaciele rzucili sie na ten temat nie po to zeby dyskutowac, ale
dla zupelnego zamglenia tego tematu w kontekscie londynskiej tragedi.

a oto nastepna opinia po ostatnich informacjach londynskiej policji
Zauwazmy ze opis tych terrorystow zmnienil sie, na poocztku policja
twierdzila ze terrorysci uzywali bomby o zdalnym zaplonie, teraz twierdza ze
oni sami zgineli. Czyzby? przeciez bomby wybuchly niemal jednoczesnie w
kazdym punkcie. policja rowniez nie wyjasnila dlaczego prze przeszlo godzine
byla przekonana ze to byla awaria a nie tak terroryzmu. Przeciez nasz
kontrowersyjny minister wiedzial o tym albo przedtem , albo niedlugo potem.
Nawet jego szef dzwonil do niego w kilka minut dpytujac sie jak sie czyje.

Czyrajcie teraz angielski tekst, rowniez mam nadzieje ze dyskusja bedzie
miala charakter merytoryczny.


xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/07/birth-of-london-bomb-official-story.html
xymphora

Wednesday, July 13, 2005
The birth of the London bomb Official Story
You can practically hear the click at that moment in the life of every
conspiracy when the police investigation turns into the Official Story. At
that point, the investigation is intended to 'fix the facts' to the Official
Story, and the cover-up begins. The story of the London bombs has made this
transformation within the last twenty-four hours. The authorities thought it
was small bombs with timers or triggered by cell phones and almost certainly
not a suicide bomb attack; now they claim with certainty that the bombs were
accompanied by handlers, some or all of whom may have died in the blasts,
possibly by accident and probably intentionally (which means they were
suicide bombers, as it is extremely unlikely that all four made a mistake).
The original story was that it was an international al Qaeda operation; now
it is British Muslims. In just a day or two, everything has changed.



The British government has managed to fashion the least damaging story
possible under the circumstances. Cell-phone triggered bombs are out, as that
might lead to calls for cell-phone jammers near transportation routes, a
prospect that would cost rich people who own cell-phone companies money.
Small bags with explosives and timers are out, as that is just too scary. The
prospect of an unlimited quantity of small bombs was causing too much panic.
Suicide bombers are in, as it will be thought that the likelihood of there
being a lot of available suicide bombers is small, and thus the level of
concern can be reduced in the general population. Of course, there will still
be enough tension to lead to more video cameras and more call for national ID
cards and increased police powers. International al Qaeda is out, as it
brings up too many associations of how Blair's alliance with Bush in Iraq put
the British people in direct danger (but watch for the 'mastermind' to
eventually be connected to the governments of Syria or Iran). Any connection
between British government wrong-doing and terrorism must be broken. Local
Muslims are in, as there appears to be a new campaign to demonize British
Muslims as part of the ongoing Zionist program to associate terrorism with
calls for the Islamification of British society. This fits in with the
general idea that terrorists are Evil and have impossible demands which can't
possibly be met, and thus terrorism has to be fought with the 'war on
terror', and not with negotiations and concessions. All these wars suit
Israel and the arms dealers. For that reason, British Muslims are going to be
in for a difficult time, and the 'Londonistan' meme is the start of that
process.



Just a few early questions:



Why would suicide bombers need timers? Are we to believe that all four of
them died when they mistakenly set off their bombs?

Why would suicide bombers carry identification which would lead the
authorities directly to their colleagues? How did it survive in at least
three of the bombs? I am reminded of the convenient passport found at the
World Trade Center.

If all four video cameras on the bus were not working, how do the police know
what happened on the bus? The witness who saw someone fiddling with a bag
just begs the question of whether the fiddler was a bomber. Why do video
cameras on buses need to be switched on by the drivers?

Why did Jack Straw state so quickly that it was al Qaeda? Is the theory that
it is still al Qaeda, or some other group?

How did the British know to warn Netanyahu so quickly? If they knew enough to
warn Netanyahu, why didn't they have enough time to shut down the subway
system? Or did they?

Why was the transportation system still operating when the bus bomb went off,
nearly an hour later than the subway bombs? One theory is that the last
bomber got on the bus after the subway system was closed!

How easy would it be to pay some Muslim British men, who are told to carry
identification, to drive to London and sit in specific places on specific
subway trains or buses? When the bombs go off and the identification is
found, you have instant patsies, and British Muslims in the frame. The fact
they were seen together on video footage then becomes just part of the set-
up. With so many known video cameras in London, why wouldn't they take care
not to be seen together? They could have entered London separately if they
did not want to be identified as part of a 'cell', and avoid giving the
police information that could be used to trace their colleagues. As is often
the case with these stories, we are asked to believe that they would be
technically proficient ('military grade' explosives), but make the dumbest
small mistakes.

What happened to the story, out of Canada and New Zealand, that the police
shot one or two men near Canary Wharf?






The bombers are all dead, and dead men tell no tales. They were kind enough
to leave enough identification, and enough video footage, to tie them to
British Muslim colleagues. Once the 'cell' is broken everybody can rest easy,
with no more inconvenient questions about the sanity of the 'war on terror'
or the fact that Blair's lies led to the attack. Nothing to see here; please
move along (oh, and may I see your ID card please?).


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    • grom3 Re: hotel davida - fredzio, dana w akcji 13.07.05, 18:21
      Nice story nic dodac nic ujac.
    • misterpee Re: hotel davida - fredzio, dana w akcji 14.07.05, 00:02
      dana i fredziu bredza ja zwykle a inny maja tylko krzyki wojenne.
      moze ktos zainteresuje sie czytaniem prawdziwej prasy
      np. o mozliwosci takiego scenariusza:

      www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/130705teneasysteps.htm
      • misterpee Re: mowa Busha z NYT 14.07.05, 15:24
        The Speech the President Should Give
        By SARAH VOWELL
        New York Times

        July 14, 2005


        A couple of weeks ago, on this very page of this here newspaper, Senator John
        Kerry wrote an Op-Ed article imagining "The Speech the President Should Give,"
        about that night's televised presidential address on the war in Iraq. Of
        course, Kerry had about as much chance of George W. Bush's following his advice
        as the producers of "MTV Cribs" have of getting the president's mother to show
        them around Kennebunkport.

        Still, Kerry stunned me, not because his ideas were sane, but because he was
        actually able to fantasize that President Bush would give a speech offering
        just and concrete solutions for that black hole. Because I don't even remember
        being able to dream that big.

        The only possible presidential speech fantasy in my wildest of daydreams, my
        oratorical castle in the air, is that one day, for just one measly speech, the
        president - the man of "mission accomplished," the man who was once asked at a
        press conference to discuss one of his mistakes and couldn't think of any, the
        man who is surely the sunniest looker-on-the-bright-side east of Drew
        Barrymore - would sit behind his Oval Office desk, stare into a TV camera and
        say: "My fellow Americans, good evening. As if that's possible."

        He continues, "We are a divided people, but let us celebrate what we have in
        common. We don't all worship the same god. Some of us do not believe in a god
        at all. But the good news is that, thanks to me, we all now believe in the
        Apocalypse. You're welcome."

        Then he would address the worried Western states - which are afraid of going up
        in flames because so many copters and National Guardsmen, the region's usual
        summertime firefighters, are deployed to Iraq - adding, "Oops." This will
        remind him to remind us that his "Healthy Forests" initiative has at least
        reduced the fear of forest fires by making it easier to chop down those deadly
        trees.

        "Which is what I'd like to do for the state of Florida," he says.

        He continues: "In the future, you folks won't have to worry about all this
        hurricane damage anymore because of my inability to address, much less accept,
        the scientific consensus on the alarming consequences of global warming
        according to groups ranging from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
        Change to Mrs. Atkinson's eighth graders at Theodore Roosevelt Junior High.
        This means more hurricanes in the short term, but rest assured that icebergs
        melting from the greenhouse gases of unchecked American factories will flood
        Florida off the map eventually, so you'll no longer have homes to worry about."

        The speech goes on for hours, pre-empting Conan. There are long tangents about
        mercury levels, under-armored military vehicles and war profiteering. Finally,
        losing his voice, he hoarsely ends his diatribe in the middle of the night,
        whispering "sweet dreams" while putting air quotes around the word "sweet."

        Then I realized I was picturing George W. Bush giving this presidential bummer
        speech while wearing a cardigan sweater. Which is when it hit me. I was
        fantasizing about Jimmy Carter. I can stop whiling away the hours writing
        forlorn presidential speeches in my head and look up Carter's forlorn
        presidential speeches instead.

        Of course, my favorite is the famous "malaise" speech of 1979 (it deals with
        the energy crisis - but never actually uses the word malaise). Considered by
        some to be the worst presidential speech in history, the address asserted that
        our problems are "deeper than gasoline lines." And: "This is not a message of
        happiness or reassurance, but it is the truth and it is a warning."
        Then: "There is simply no way to avoid sacrifice."

        Those frank words, coming out of a presidential mouth, are shocking. It will be
        difficult, but think back and try to remember an America dependent on foreign
        oil, an America with high gasoline prices, an America consumed with crises in
        the Middle East. And imagine you feel there is nothing you, the average
        American, can do. Then your president goes on TV and instead of saying you can
        do something vague like "stay the course," he tells you that there is something
        small and practical you can do. You can carpool!

        These days, there's just something refreshing about reading through Carter's
        clear-eyed political suicide. Daydreamer though I am, I have never expected a
        president to solve our chaos. It's just nice to know that once, one of them
        acknowledged it.


        Maureen Dowd is on book leave.

        Sarah Vowell, a contributor to public radio's "This American Life," is the
        author, most recently, of "Assassination Vacation."

        E-mail: vowell@nytimes.com


    • kropekuk A ty smrodzisz BLEDNA NAZWA: "King David" 14.07.05, 16:02

      • misterpee Re: mozliwosc jednoczesnego...ataku i manewrow 16.07.05, 04:51




        Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding
        Infowars.com | July 13, 2005

        Comment:
        This is absolutely mind boggling. The chances for these two events taking place
        at the same time, let alone in the same locations are astronomical (numbers so
        big we had to look up how to say them). And these estimates are within a very
        conservative five year mean. In other words, most statistical analysis that is
        designed to create the impression of a similarly incredible improbability is
        usually framed within a greater amount of time: 50 years since England began
        experiencing bombings, 130 years since the Tube first opened, etc. We don't
        need to frame these results in that way because the chance is so low that these
        events would ever occur simultaneously without some sort of intervention that
        one might go so far as to call it impossible.

        Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding

        LU Stations: 274
        RELATED:
        Explosions In London





        Probability of one attack by hour (5yr mean): One chance in 9,474,920

        Open Hours per Day: 19

        Probability of 3 station terror hit (5yr mean):
        One chance in 850,602,500,906,920,000,000

        Open Days a Year: 364

        Mean Sample frequent (yrs) 5 Probability of one attack by hour (10yr mean):
        One chance in 18,949,840

        Mean Sample frequent (yrs) 10 Probability of 3 station terror hit (10yr mean):
        One chance in 6,804,820,007,255,360,000,000

        Same Time 3

        LU Stations: 274

        Probability of drill on 1 stations per hour:
        One chance in 817,342

        Open Hours per Day: 19

        Probability of drill on 3 stations per hour:
        One chance in 546,023,643,432,766,000

        Open Days a Year: 157

        Same Time 3

        PROBABILITY OF DRILL AND TERROR ATTACK COINCIDING BY CHANCE (10yr mean):
        One chance in 3,715,592,613,265,750,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

        Estimate of Grains of sand in the whole world:
        7,500,000,000,000,000,000

        (www.miamisci.org/tripod/whysand.html)

        In context: If I go to a beach, or a desert, or under the sea and pick a single
        grain of sand. What chance is there of you going to the same part of the world
        by chance and picking up the same grain? You are trillions of times more likely
        to do this that the London drill coinciding with this attack at that hour

        I wonder why the media aren't reporting the drill??

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        • kropekuk Kolejne islamskie "charity"? Juz niedlugo ... 16.07.05, 04:55
          Homeland Security chyba takich polaczkow jak ty nie mniej kocha, nizli
          australijskie :))))))))))
        • kropekuk PS: A CO to ma wspolnego, dumb Pole, z podaniem 16.07.05, 04:56
          przez ciebie BLEDNEJ NAZWY PEWNEGO HOTELU???
          • zbalansowany Re: PS: A CO to ma wspolnego, dumb Pole, z podani 16.07.05, 05:27
            Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Zwei Kaczoren und fagot kropekuk
          • misterpee Re: PS: A CO to ma wspolnego, dumb Pole, z podani 16.07.05, 16:12
            faszystowsko stalinowska mmieszanka to kropkuk i zbalansowany
          • misterpee Re: obrzydliwe pismaki - destrukcja forum 16.07.05, 16:16
            pisza swoja ziejaca nienawiscia gwara, dziwnie podobna do mow swoich
            klamliwych mentorow . Celem ich jest likwidacja forum dyskusyjnego

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