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IP: *.mel.connect.com.au / *.connect.com.au 19.12.03, 03:11
....do gawiedzi.

Oczywiscie calosc to jedna wielka brednia i propaganda dla ubogich.

Ariel Sharon's speech is a masterpiece of misrepresentation, half-truths and
outright lies," the Gush Shalom peace movement declared.


He said the plan includes redeployment of the IDF along a "security line" in
the territories, and evacuation of isolated settlements that Sharon said
would in any case not be included in Israeli territory in any future
settlement. At the same time, Israel will strengthen its control over "those
parts of the Land of Israel that will be an inseparable part of the state of
Israel in any future settlement."

Tlumaczac to na normalny jezyk Szaron powiedzial ze odda to czego i tak nie
da sie ukrasc, natomiast trzeba zwiekszyc wysilki aby ukrasc to co sie ukrasc
da.


Nie watpie ze przemowienie Szarona spotka sie z aprobata wiekszosci
hutzpiarzy w Hutzpalandzie.
Obserwuj wątek
    • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Naczelny Hutzpiarz wyglosil przemowienie IP: *.mel.connect.com.au / *.connect.com.au 19.12.03, 06:01

      Jakos rozsadniejszy Zyd tak to wystapienie skomentowal:

      At the Herzliya Conference we saw a government that is befuddled and confused:
      a minister calling upon Abu Ala to negotiate; a minister calling for unilateral
      action; a minister against unilateral action; a minister against the road map,
      but committed to it; a minister who supports dismantling outposts; a minister
      who supports withdrawal from isolated settlements; and a minister who says they
      should stay.

      What hasn't been articulated at this conference is that the U.S.
      administration, the media and American public opinion are showing signs of
      fatigue. They are getting tired of Sharon and of his double talk.

      As a person who promised peace and security, but hasn't brought it, as a
      person who promised painful concessions, but hasn't made any, as a person who
      shoved us down the hill, but won't accept responsibility for it - it doesn't
      matter what Sharon said last night and how nicely he said it. It's his actions
      that will talk.


      nawet Zydzi mowia ze Szaron to Hucpiarz
      • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Naczelny Hutzpiarz wyglosil przemowienie IP: *.mel.connect.com.au / *.connect.com.au 22.12.03, 00:13
        Czy to milczenie mam uwazac za calkowita zgode z moimi pogladami?
        • Gość: dana33 do naczelnego hutzpiarza australijskiego IP: 5.5R* / 192.114.47.* 22.12.03, 17:25
          nu, to milczenie masz uwazac za to, czym ono jest: jestes nudny, powtarzasz
          sie, twoj slepy antysemityzm jest znany i nawet twoi kolezcy po fachu nie maja
          ochoty odpisywac na twoje prowokacyjne i idiotyczne watki. zjechales na dno,
          zafajdancu. tak jak cie kiedys lubilam, tak na sam widok twojego nika dostaje
          odruchow wymiotnych w kolorze zielonym.
          • Gość: fląder Re: do naczelnego hutzpiarza australijskiego IP: *.acn.pl 22.12.03, 17:40
            Gość portalu: dana33 napisał(a):

            > na sam widok twojego nika dostaje
            > odruchow wymiotnych w kolorze zielonym.


            Ale.! Wypadałoby doda ć troche czerwonego, np, od pomidorow.
            • Gość: dana33 do fladra IP: 5.5R* / 192.114.47.* 22.12.03, 17:45
              alez, moj drogi.... nie skapnales sie? jak odruchy moga byc w kolorze???? :)
              • Gość: flader Re: do fladra IP: *.acn.pl 22.12.03, 17:48
                Nie, bo to mi przypomnialo widok jednego takiego rekruta co sie wychylal z pociagu i puszczal pawia takiego dziwnie zielonego z pomidorami. Dlatego mówi sieę: puszczac pawia.
                • Gość: dana33 do fladra IP: 5.5R* / 192.114.47.* 22.12.03, 17:51
                  nu, przeciez nie bedziemy sie klocic o kolory nie? :)
                  a wiec i paw i odruchy, ten zafajdaniec warty obu..... :)
    • fredzio54 Re: Naczelny Hutzpiarz wyglosil przemowienie 22.12.03, 06:35
      Zablo
      gdzie twoja linie z Aborginaly co im swpj krak obkradles
      Ty kolonialisata wroc do polski i przestam lizac arabskie tylky oni nieplaca
      dobrze
    • goldbaum przylaczam sie do dany... 22.12.03, 17:35
      twoj "slepy antysemityzm jest znany" zbalansowany :))))))
      • Gość: zbalansowany Re: przylaczam sie do dany... IP: *.mel.connect.com.au / *.connect.com.au 23.12.03, 02:16


        Ani antysemita, ani slepy.

        Jezeli juz to antysyjonista i antyhutzpiarz nie cierpiacy straganiarskiej
        mentalnosci. I naprawde znam bardzo wielu przyzwoitych, normalnych Zydow
        patrzacych z przerazeniem co Izrael na BW wyprawia.

    • fredzio54 Re: Naczelny Hutzpiarz wyglosil przemowienie 23.12.03, 06:54
      twoja hutzpa polega ze zyjesz na opca zimie i wypedziles aborginaly napewno
      porwales ich dzieci according to bill from 1906 o masakrowales ich kobiet.
      to chcesz od zydow.
      slyszalem z arabtwo w australi sa nastepne australiackie kroliki :)))))))))
      • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Naczelny Hutzpiarz wyglosil przemowienie IP: *.mel.connect.com.au / *.connect.com.au 24.12.03, 03:23
        Sharon's Speech -
        The Decoded Version
        By Uri Avnery
        CounterPunch.org
        12-24-3

        He read out the written text of his speech, word for word, without raising his
        eyes from the page.

        It was vital for him to stick to the exact wording, since it was an encoded
        text. It is impossible to decipher it without breaking the code. And it is
        impossible to break the code without knowing Ariel Sharon very well indeed.

        So it is no surprise that the flood of interpretations in Israel and abroad was
        ridiculous. The commentators just did not understand what they had heard.
        That's why they wrote things like "He did not say anything new", "He has no
        plan", "He is marking time", "He is old and tired". And the usual Washington
        reaction: "A positive step, but"

        Nonsense. In his speech, Sharon outlined a whole, detailed--and extremely
        dangerous--plan. Those who did not understand--Israelis, Palestinians and
        foreign diplomats--will be unable to react effectively.

        Here is the deciphered text of Sharon's "Herzliyah speech":

        The name of the game is Hitnatkut ("cutting ourselves off"). Meaning: most of
        the West Bank area will become de facto a part of Israeli, and the rest we
        shall leave to the Palestinians, who will be enclosed in isolated enclaves.
        From these enclaves, the settlements will be removed.

        Stage One: In order to do this, we need time--about half a year. We are talking
        about a large-scale and complicated military operation. The army will have to
        occupy and fortify new lines, while "relocating" dozens of isolated
        settlements. This will require detailed planning, which has not yet even
        started. The necessary forces and instruments will have to be prepared. Half a
        year is the minimum.

        During this period we shall not be idle. On the contrary, we shall finish
        the "separation fence", and it will play a major part in the new deployment. We
        shall develop the "settlement blocs", to which we shall transfer the settlers
        who will be relocated.

        The execution of the plan in half a year is perfectly timed. At exactly that
        time the American election campaign will reach its climax. No American
        politician will dare to utter a word against Israel. The Democrats need the
        Jewish votes and money. The Republicans also need the votes and the money of
        the 60 million Christian fundamentalists, who support the most extreme elements
        in Israel.

        While we quietly prepare the big operation, we shall continue to flatter
        President Bush and praise his idiotic Road Map, without, of course, fulfilling
        any of our obligations under the Map. But we shall blame the Palestinians for
        violating it.

        At the same time we shall pretend to seek negotiations with the Palestinians.
        We shall try to meet with Abu-Ala as many times as possible and play the game
        to the end. When we are ready to go, we shall terminate the contacts, declare
        the Road Map dead and state sorrowfully that all our efforts to start peace
        negotiations have failed because of Arafat.

        Stage two: By then, the "separation wall" will be ready. The Palestinian
        territories (Areas A and B under Oslo) will be surrounded on all sides. In
        practice there will be about a dozen isolated pockets. In order to fulfil our
        promise about Palestinian "contiguity" we shall connect the enclaves by special
        roads, bridges and tunnels, which we shall be able to cut at a moment's notice.

        The army will withdraw gradually to the separation barrier and redeploy in the
        territories that will be annexed to Israel, including, inter alia, the
        settlement blocs of Karney Shomron, Elkana, Ariel and Kedumim; the Modi'in Road
        and the territory south of it up to the Green Line, all the Greater Jerusalem
        area already annexed in 1967; the new neighborhoods around Jerusalem up to
        Maaleh Adumim and perhaps further; the Jewish settlement in Hebron and Kiryat
        Arba and the settlements in the Hebron area; all the Dead Sea shore; all the
        Jordan valley, including about 15 km of the banks. Altogether, more than half
        the West Bank.

        These areas will not be annexed officially, but we shall annex them as rapidly
        as possible in practice. We shall fill them with settlements (also using the
        settlers from the "relocated" settlements), industrial parks, roads, public
        institutions and army installations, so that they will become indistinguishable
        from parts of Israel proper.

        At the same time, we shall evacuate the settlements beyond the barrier,
        including those in the Gaza Strip (with or without the Katif bloc.)

        In line with the American proposal, we shall call the Palestinian enclaves "a
        Palestinian State with Temporary Borders". That will give the Palestinians the
        illusion that they will be able to negotiate the "permanent" borders. But, of
        course, the "separation fence" will be the final border.

        The terror will not stop completely, but the Palestinian enclaves will be at
        our mercy and we shall be able to cut each of them off at any time, prevent
        movement from one to another and make life in them intolerable. It will not be
        worthwhile for them to conduct violent acts.

        Officially, the Palestinians will have free access to the border crossings to
        Egypt and Jordan, but in practice we shall maintain an effective military
        presence, enabling us to stop movement there at any time.

        At first the world will scream, but faced with a fait accompli they will
        quieten down. Even if Bush remains in the White House, he will be paralysed
        until after the elections at the end of 2004. If a Democrat is elected
        president, he will need some months to settle down. By then everything will be
        finished, and we shall be able to generously agree to some minor adjustments.

        This is the Plan. Can it be realized?

        It is quite possible that Sharon will convince Israeli public opinion. The
        great majority of the public is united around two points: (a) the longing for
        peace and security, and (b) the distrust of Arabs and the unwillingness to deal
        with them. (Some weeks ago, a satirical supplement published a slogan: "YES to
        peace, NO to Palestinians".)

        Sharon's plan promises both. It promises peace and security, and it is
        entirely "unilateral". No negotiations with Palestinians are required, it does
        not depend on the will of the Arabs, who can be ignored entirely.

        In this respect, Sharon's plan has a great advantage over the Geneva
        Initiative, which is entirely based on the assumption that "there is a partner"
        and that we must negotiate with the Palestinians and make peace with them. Long
        years of brainwashing, led by Ehud Barak and most of the other leaders of
        the "Zionist Left", have convinced the Israeli public that there is no partner,
        that the Arabs are cheating, that Arafat has broken every single agreement he
        has signed, etc. The Sharon plan conforms to all these myths, while the Geneva
        Initiative clashes with them.

        But beneath the road to the implementation of the Sharon Plan there lie two big
        landmines: the settlers and the Palestinians.

        The inhabitants of the settlements that are supposed to be "relocated" include
        some of the most extreme elements of the settlement movement. There is no
        chance that these will go away peacefully. They will have to be removed by
        force.

        That will require a huge military effort. While many moderate settlers will
        remove themselves voluntarily if given fat compensation, many others will
        resist. According to an informed estimate, some 5000 soldiers and policemen
        will be needed to remove just one small "outpost": Migron, near Ramallah, which
        Sharon was supposed to have removed long ago according to the Road Map. When
        dozens of bigger and more established settlements have to be removed, it will
        need a giant, quasi war-like operation, requiring a general call up of
        reserves, with all the po
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