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What does it mean "to come undone"?

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    • Gość: db Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: 62.233.204.* 31.07.03, 15:30
      w zaleznosci
      rozpielo sie
      rozsznurowalo
      lub po prostu
      przyjsc nieubranym, rozpietym?
      • Gość: english-test.net Shakespeare and Pop IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 31.07.03, 21:59
        It's probably a throwback to a word used in Shakespeare's plays 'I am undone'
        which can be used to describe being found out, being discovered when you have
        committed a crime and thus in S's sense take the character of Edmund in King
        Lear who has plotted to deprive his brother of his inheritance and tried to
        dupe his father. When he realises he has been found out, he says something
        like that. So from the sublime to the ridiculous, one could say it means
        roughly you have no defences against the love you have for someone.

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        www.english-test.net
    • Gość: english-test.net Come undone? IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 31.07.03, 15:34
      The phase 'I come undone' seems to exist only in the world of pop songs and I
      think it seems as much as 'I lose control because I'm so attracted to you...'
      Any other ideas?

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    • Gość: VIP-1 Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.mt.sfl.net 31.07.03, 19:17
      zalezy gdzie to slyszales(las)
      "normalne" znaczenie db podal ci powyzej
      moge tylko dodac ze moze to rowniez dotyczyc rozpietego rozporka i nie tylko

      "ukryte" znaczenie to raczej dotyczy seksu
      na przyklad jesli dziewczyna obiecywala sobie zbyt wiele
      po randce, a wsumie nic sie nie "stalo" to mozna uzyc
      tego wyrazenia.

      jest to raczej sporadycznie uzywane i najpredzej
      "ukryte" znaczenie uslyszysz w jakiejs piosence
      • Gość: yorick Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.torun.dialup.inetia.pl 31.07.03, 20:39
        Hmm...

        Outlaw Torn by Metallica:

        "(...) And when I start to come undone, stitch me together..."

        Co prawda oni lubią bawić się tanimi gierkami słownymi, więc nie można do końca
        być pewnym, ale zdaje się, że żadne z powyższych znaczeń tu nie pasuje, może
        najbliżej to english-neta.
        pzdrv
        • Gość: english-test.net Come undone and Shakespeare? IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 31.07.03, 21:57
          It's probably a throwback to a word used in Shakespeare's plays 'I am undone'
          which can be used to describe being found out, being discovered when you have
          committed a crime and thus in S's sense take the character of Edmund in King
          Lear who has plotted to deprive his brother of his inheritance and tried to
          dupe his father. When he realises he has been found out, he says something
          like that. So from the sublime to the ridiculous, one could say it means
          roughly you have no defences against the love you have for someone.

          Practise your English
          www.english-test.net
    • Gość: Konrad Pekala Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.szczecin.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 31.07.03, 21:04
      "Wychodzic z siebie"
      Slowniki kupowac!! ;)
      • Gość: Konrad Pekala Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.szczecin.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 31.07.03, 21:11
        kiedys znalalem to tlumaczenie na leksyka.pl, ale nie jestem teraz pewien czy
        jest ono poprawne. przepraszam za zawracanie glowy:[
    • Gość: smiena Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.siedlce.sdi.tpnet.pl 31.07.03, 21:15
      to come undone:
      1.odpiąć się; rozwiązać się

      zrodlo: slownik WNT, Leksykonia
    • ewunia_uk Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? 31.07.03, 21:28
      Come undone to po prostu "rozpruc sie", "rozpiac sie", np.

      His fly has come undone :))))

      W znaczeniu przenosnym, czyli "rozklejac sie", "stracic watek", "zagubic sie"
      uzywane jest - tak jak napisal english-test - tylko w piosenkach.

      W przytoczonym fragmencie Metallica uzywa wiec tej gry slownej: "A jesli sie
      rozkleje, to zeszyj mnie do kupy" czy cos takiego :)
      • Gość: Yorick Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.torun.dialup.inetia.pl 31.07.03, 23:58
        Dokładnie:

        'rozkleję się'. Chyba o to generalnie chodzi.
        pzdrv
        • Gość: Yorick Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 01.08.03, 15:23
          I exchanged opinions thru ICQ

          a Native Speaker agreed that it in fact may be 'falling apart' (mentally), but
          instantly added the 'unbuttoned pants' connotation...
          rgdz
    • Gość: aishling Re: What does it mean 'to come undone'? IP: *.awf.wroc.pl 01.08.03, 12:46
      Thanks a million. In my question I was referring to pop songs. Other meanings
      of the phrase are well known or may be looked up in most available
      dictionaries. Thanx again.
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