Gość: azm IP: *.acn.pl 09.05.03, 13:05 1. Czy ktoś już słuchał Digital Audio Broadcast gdzieś w Europie? Jakie wrażenia? 2. Jakieś informacje na temat wprowadzenia w Polsce? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś czytaj wygodnie posty
Gość: lupo Cyfrowa emisja juz jest na 70% RFN IP: 141.39.41.* 09.05.03, 13:57 Odbior w instalacji samochodowej odpowiada jakoscia CD i tyle. Zajrzyj tutaj : www.worlddab.org/dabworld/countries/germany.htm Prawie cala RFN jest pokryta. W Berlinie/Brandenburgii rowniez telewizja nadawana jest w systemie DVB-T. Wielu programow juz nie ma w "starym" systemie analogowej emisji, wiec trzeba bylo sobie kupic set-top-box z niewielka antenka typu 1/4 falowy precik, ktory stoi na parapecie okna. W Polsce byly jakies proby, ale aktualny stan jest mi nieznany. pzdr, lupo Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Kierowiec Re: Cyfrowa emisja juz jest na 70% RFN IP: *.pppool.de 10.05.03, 12:20 Gość portalu: lupo napisał(a): > Odbior w instalacji samochodowej > odpowiada jakoscia CD i tyle. Odpowiada jakoscia co najwyzej mp3. i tyle. > Prawie cala RFN jest pokryta. > W Berlinie/Brandenburgii rowniez telewizja > nadawana jest w systemie DVB-T. Dzwonilem niedawno na hotline DVB, aby dowiedziec sie o termin emisji w mojej okolicy. Pogawedzilem chwile z milym czlowiekiem i z glupia frant zapytalem sie, a jak to z DAB. "DAB? Das ist doch schon scheintot." (DAB? to przeciez juz w smierci klinicznej lezy) Glowna przyczyna - kosmicznie drogie (i do niedawna wielkie rozmiarem) odbiorniki - brak popytu na techze - nieopadajace ceny - brak popytu etc ad mortem defecatum. > pzdr, > lupo Pozdr. K. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: gsm-komora DABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDAB IP: *.wroclaw.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 10.05.03, 16:08 A ja znalazlem to: www.digitalradio-info.de/receiver/geraete.php Wcale tak zle z tym DABem nie jest, jak piszesz. I z Wroclawia ( Breslau , hehehehehe ) tez mozna znalezc wyszukiwarka, ze kolega z Reichu sie troche pomylil. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Kierowiec Re: DABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDAB IP: *.pppool.de 10.05.03, 19:15 Gość portalu: gsm-komora napisał(a): > A ja znalazlem to: > Wcale tak zle z tym DABem nie jest, jak piszesz. "Pierwszy odbiornik w jednym pudelku" i cena 539 EUR. Tam niestety nie pisze, ze z powodu nakladu srodkow na DAB jakosc reszty urzadzenia nijak do ceny nie pasuje. > I z Wroclawia ( Breslau , hehehehehe ) tez mozna znalezc > wyszukiwarka, ze kolega z Reichu sie troche pomylil. Poszukaj sobie, jak przebiega dabyzacja republiki. I dlaczego tak wolno. I dlaczego zaopatrzenie od dawna stagnuje np. na polnocy. Pozdr. K. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: eire Re: DABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDAB IP: *.teleton.pl 08.06.03, 11:02 Najtansze radia DAB po 99 GBP w Londynie. Nadaje tam kilka multipleksow, ogolem 20-30 kanalow. Na stronie www.bbc.co.uk jest to opisane. DTT - czyli Digital Terrestrial Television tez juz jest, sa tunery do tego, ale nie pamietam ceny. nie mam informacji jak to sie sprzedaje, ani jaka jest jakosc odbioru.. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: kondor-III Re: DABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDABDAB IP: *.wroclaw.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 13.06.03, 23:36 Gość portalu: eire napisał(a): > Najtansze radia DAB po 99 GBP w Londynie. Nadaje tam kilka multipleksow, > ogolem 20-30 kanalow. Na stronie www.bbc.co.uk jest to opisane. > DTT - czyli Digital Terrestrial Television tez juz jest, sa tunery do tego, > ale nie pamietam ceny. nie mam informacji jak to sie sprzedaje, ani jaka jest > jakosc odbioru.. Polska to technologiczne zadupie. Kablowki by zdechly, gdyby terrestrial DVB sie rozpowszechnil. Kolesie od kablowek straciliby drukarnie pieniedzy, a tego nikt z nich nie chce. Takie zaplanowane zacofanie. A Krajowa Rada ( Kraj RAD PRL !!!) i tak zajmuje sie czym innym. Najwazniejsze , zeby sobie nie dac wyciagnac stolkow spod d.... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: lupo Co do DAB w Polsce IP: 141.39.41.* 09.05.03, 14:32 Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Canada, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Malaysia, Mexico, Namibia, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, United Kingdom, USA DAB World Coverage Map DAB Services Worldwide -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia (05/02/2003) In December 2001 the Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA) agreed to support the application of the Commercial Radio Industry to commence digital radio trials in Sydney. The Government’s response is supportive of the industry’s position, that a development phase which establishes the business case for digital radio and which tests technologies, which will allow coverage of both urban and sparsely populated regional areas of the continent. Several receiver manufacturers have expressed interest in participating in this development phase to help test the technology and consumer response. Eureka 147 trials have been conducted since June 1999 by the DR2000 group, a consortium of commercial and public broadcasters. The trials comprise a two- transmitter SFN located in Sydney. The network carries content from five networks: Austereo, ARN, 2KY, Racing Radio and the ABC. The industry is establishing a digital radio development bureau and continues to monitor digital radio developments throughout the world. The ABA Board's decision to issue a temporary licence to access VHF for the period of the trials demonstrates a commitment to ensure Australians have access to the latest media innovations world-wide. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Austria (23/01/2003) There is currently one multiplex operating with three transmitters in Vienna, covering the whole city (Channel 12D), approximately 1.5 million people. The Vienna multiplex features the channels Ö1 (classical music), Radio Wien (local station), Ö3 (pop music) and FM4. An estimated 19% of Austria's population receives DAB coverage. Austrian public broadcaster ORF, were awarded a DAB trial licence for the Federal States of Tyrol. They have now set up 2 DAB transmitters in Tyrol, covering the Inn valley between Kufstein and the Brenner mountain (Channel 12C). This means that there is continuous coverage between South Germany and Northern Italy. Ö1, the regional station, Ö3 and FM4 are on the multiplex. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Belgium (24/01/2003) Digital Radio launched in Belgium in September 1997 with a multiplex then operated by the Flemish public broadcaster VRT. Today, VRT has a multiplex covering 98% of the Flemish Community (expected to rise to 100% this year) and French public broadcaster, the RTBF, has a multiplex covering 98% of the French Community. The VRT carries eight audio stations, RTBF carries five audio stations, with most being simulcasts of existing analogue stations, among them is BRF in German . VRT offers two channels unique to DAB : Digital Radio, DABklassiek playing classical music and 927Live, a sports programme The RTBF multiplex retains several slots for commercial radio, but these have not yet been allocated. Data services are expected to be trialled over the coming year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brunei (04/02/2003) - Radio Television Brunei (RTB) started Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB-T) trial transmission on the 30th September 2000. The trial transmission was radiated from Bukit Subok Transmitting Station, which is located about 3 kilometers to the north of Bandar Seri Begawan. Currently, the service consists of five radio channels where one of the channels also includes a very short data service. Hirschmann Asia-Pacific was contracted to supply, install and commission a 300W DAB-T transmitter which was tuned to 12B. With DAB-T antenna installed within the aperture of the existing analogue FM antenna, the DAB-T trial transmissions were able to provide an estimated coverage area of 20km. However, based on the recent field-strength surveys, the signal was able to be received at some locations 60km away from the transmitter. As part of RTB’s effort to create awareness on DAB-T, a training/seminar was arranged in collaboration with Asia-Pacific Broadcasting Union (ABU) Technical Advisory Service (TAS) in the middle of March 2002. The training/seminar was conducted by Mr. Gavin Fisher and Mr. Glenn Doyle from National Transcommunication Limited (NTL) which was targeted to three different groups of people: Senior and middle RTB management Technical staff mainly those who are dealing with transmissions. Non-technical staff such as DJs and radio producers. At present, there is no plan yet to expand the trial to a full state-wide transmission. However, RTB is still monitoring the progress and development of DAB-T in this region as well as continuing every effort to provide awareness of the technology to the public. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Canada (28/01/2003) Regulatory approval was received late in 2002 for 15 DAB stations in Ottawa (11 commercial and 4 public). Service should start during 2003 adding another 1 million potential listeners. This brings the total to 72 licensed Digital Audio Broadcast DAB stations in Canada. In addition to the Ottawa stations 24 are in Toronto (20 commercial and 4 public) 15 in Vancouver (11 commercial and 4 public), 12 in Montreal (8 commercial and 4 public) and 6 in Windsor (2 commercial and 4 public). The Stations operating in these four cities provide service to some 10 million potential listeners or about 35% of the population. Halifax, Nova Scotia. Planning is also underway for 11 DAB stations (7 commercial and 4 public) with start of service during 2003. A major engineering study by D.E.M. Allen and Associates for the engineering planning for new DAB stations to serve the major population corridors in Canada was completed in 2002. Covered by the new services will be all markets between Toronto - Windsor, Toronto - Ottawa, Toronto - Montreal, Montreal - Quebec City, Calgary - Edmonton, and Vancouver - Greater Fraser Valley. A report commissioned by DRRI with Price Waterhouse Coopers on the revenue opportunities of DAB was also completed during 2002. The results of these studies will permit the broadcasters to carry out the detailed business planning for the DAB facilities required. The population covered by the corridor stations would be approximately 15 Million. In the fall of 2002 RadioShack Canada Ltd. became the first retail chain in Canada to carry a line of DAB products for the home and portable markets. DAB products will be available in approximately 250 Radio Shack stores. While the initial receivers are handheld portable devices (with and without MP3 capability) additional products include boomboxes, other hand-held portable devices, and DAB computer attachments. The marketing activity is continuing with a presence at various consumer events, on-air promotions, articles in various press, etc. 'DAB' is used in all the marketing material, from the consumer handout material to the 'On-Air' promotional spots. The Canadian website www.digitalradio.ca continues to draw an increasing number of hits. The Canadian DAB platform organisation is 'Digital Radio Roll-Out (DRRI) Inc.' with mandate to manage the marketing of DAB following the launch of the service. The 'official' launch of Digital Radio in Can Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: azm Re: Co do DAB w Polsce IP: *.acn.pl 10.05.03, 11:30 Dzięki za informacje, muszę znaleźć trochę czasu, żeby przeczytać :-) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: fgh Re: Co do DAB w Polsce IP: *.radio.com.pl 12.05.03, 11:02 Polskie Radio kilka lat temu nadawało eksperymentalnie sygnał DAB. Ponadawali, ponadawali i przestali. I tyle było u nas DAB-a. I tak pewnie nikt nie słuchał Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Kierowiec Re: Co do DAB w Polsce IP: 212.6.124.* 12.05.03, 13:54 Gość portalu: fgh napisał(a): > Polskie Radio kilka lat temu nadawało eksperymentalnie sygnał DAB. Ponadawali, > ponadawali i przestali. I tyle było u nas DAB-a. I tak pewnie nikt nie > słuchał No bo czym by mial sluchac... Kilka lat temu odbiornik DAB kosztowal naprawde duzo. Kupowac taki w Polsce mijalo by sie zupelnie z celem. Pozdr. K. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś