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11.08.05, 15:01
"Expect to toast frequently("Na Zdrowie"). Drinking is more than customary."

no jak tu sie nie obrazic wink
btw, jak przetlumaczy "more than customary"



CULTURAL TIPS

Important Do's and Don'ts for Working with the Poles

If ever geography and politics have shaped a national character, it is
Poland. Poles are alternatively proud and defiant, warm and indifferent,
formal and friendly, each contrary characteristic being the result of a long
history as a country placed exactly in the center of Europe, being the
coveted prize of Central European Germanic, Czech and Hungarian empires vying
with Eastern Slavic and Baltic regimes.

Throughout the centuries, Poles have had to develop mechanisms to preserve
their own individual culture while fighting back against being overrun and
torn apart from both the East and West. The resulting personality is one of
resiliency, personal loyalty to those who are trusted and fierce resistance
to those on the outside, and an odd mix of Latin fatalism (Poles are a Roman
Catholic Slavic nation) coupled with an unexpected Slavic attraction to risk
and possibility.

For over a millennium the Polish language has been developing. It belongs to
the group of West Slavonic languages, together with Czech, Slovak and
Lusatian, and is now the official language of Poland, spoken by some 99
percent of the country's 38 million people. It is also spoken among Polish
communities scattered all over the globe, of which the largest live in the
U.S., the major nucleus being Chicago.
Polish is a phonetic language, which means that there's a consistent
relationship between pronunciation and spelling.
Here are some cultural tips to help you successfully work with the Poles as
well as the zlotys (that's the national currency): Expect to toast frequently
("Na Zdrowie"). Drinking is more than customary.

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    • nedusa czesc II "CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:02
      ...
      "You may be invited to drink at any time of the day or night, even at business
      meetings in the morning. Usually drinks consist of little shot glasses of vodka
      drained in one gulp (bottoms up style). When toasting, be sure to never break
      eye contact with the person you are toasting from the moment you lift the glass
      to the moment you place it down again. It is wise to always eat while drinking.

      When entering a Polish home, you will probably notice shoes lined up in front
      of the door. This indicates that you should remove your shoes, as well, before
      entering.
      You must personally take the time to build trust and comfort. Poles will move
      quickly in their decision-making, and are known for taking risks, sometimes
      even significant risks if they feel comfortable working with you. Unless this
      is established, however, they will be cautious and circumspect in their work
      with you.

      If invited to a Polish home, expect to be hosted royally even if the occupants
      are only of modest means. Poles will try to provide you with every possible
      comfort, including a multitude of delicious Polish dishes that will leave you
      more than full.

      Gift-giving remains crucial since even business relationships are ultimately
      based on that all-important personal relationship. Poles will like gifts of
      delicacies from the West that are difficult to obtain in Poland. Many Poles are
      learning English these days, so "coffee table" books of America are highly
      prized and a great gift-giving idea.

      Shake hands with everyone you are introduced to, in business and social
      situations. If there is a large group of people, you must not leave anyone out.
      The American-style group "wave" is not appropriate in this situation.
      Poles don't waste time on vacuous pleasantries: they can get right to the
      point, and when you ask them "how are you?" they'll expect you to stick around
      for the full and honest answer.
      Alternatively, they can appear at once far too personal too soon ("How much do
      you make at that job?") and far too formal for too long (it's important to use
      last names with "Pan" - Mr., or "Pani" - Mrs. until they invite you to address
      them by their first names.)

      Be flexible in business. Things take time, more than you'd think. Do not expect
      prompt responses, and resist the temptation to think that the Poles are
      avoiding you.
      They are simply dealing with their own set of constraints ranging from
      telephones that don't work regularly to little daily emergencies that you, as
      an outside visitor, will generally not be bothered with.

      Because of decades of Communist centralized control, Poles may have difficulty
      with some work concepts that Americans find secondnature such as; ideas about
      competitiveness, customer service, and profit and loss. These terms are simply
      new and strange to many Poles. Be understanding and be willing to play the role
      of the teacher.

      There are many indigenous Polish traditions which are highly cherished. Learn
      as much as you can before going to Poland about the long and difficult history
      of the Poles.
      Every effort to demonstrate a respect for and understanding of this rich
      heritage, along with some use of the language whenever possible, will be deeply
      appreciated. Endearing yourself personally to the Poles will help you achieve
      longer term business goals."
      • jot-23 Re: czesc II "CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:15
        nedusa napisała:

        > ...
        > "You may be invited to drink at any time of the day or night, even at
        business
        > meetings in the morning. Usually drinks consist of little shot glasses of
        vodka
        >
        > drained in one gulp (bottoms up style

        lol...skad oni wytrzasneli te brednie? walenie wudy na porannych zebraniach
        firmowych? lol
        • debunker Re: czesc II "CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:30
          jot-23 napisał:

          > nedusa napisała:
          >
          > > ...
          > > "You may be invited to drink at any time of the day or night, even at
          > business
          > > meetings in the morning. Usually drinks consist of little shot glasses of
          >
          > vodka
          > >
          > > drained in one gulp (bottoms up style
          >
          > lol...skad oni wytrzasneli te brednie? walenie wudy na porannych zebraniach
          > firmowych? lol
          >
          >

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          • jot-23 Re: czesc II "CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:38
            haha, rozumiem, franzuci... te komuchy chca uczyc polakow o "ideas about
            competitiveness, customer service, and profit and loss" hehehe
            • kup_pan_paszport Re: czesc II "CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 16:11
              jot-23 napisał:

              > haha, rozumiem, franzuci... te komuchy chca uczyc polakow o "ideas about
              > competitiveness, customer service, and profit and loss" hehehe
              >
              >
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    • jot-23 Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:39
      lol...

      "- When driving or walking, make sure nobody is following you"
    • rat_terrier Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 15:55
      Sprobujcie wstawic np amerykanow do tego tekstu a okaze sie ze pasuaj jak ulal!
      Moze z wyjatkiem odpowiedzi na 'hauarju'. Moze.


      nedusa napisała:

      > "Expect to toast frequently("Na Zdrowie"). Drinking is more than customary."
      >
      > no jak tu sie nie obrazic wink
      > btw, jak przetlumaczy "more than customary"
      >
      >
      >
      > CULTURAL TIPS
      >
      > Important Do's and Don'ts for Working with the Poles
      >
      > If ever geography and politics have shaped a national character, it is
      > Poland. Poles are alternatively proud and defiant, warm and indifferent,
      > formal and friendly, each contrary characteristic being the result of a long
      > history as a country placed exactly in the center of Europe, being the
      > coveted prize of Central European Germanic, Czech and Hungarian empires vying
      > with Eastern Slavic and Baltic regimes.
      >
      > Throughout the centuries, Poles have had to develop mechanisms to preserve
      > their own individual culture while fighting back against being overrun and
      > torn apart from both the East and West. The resulting personality is one of
      > resiliency, personal loyalty to those who are trusted and fierce resistance
      > to those on the outside, and an odd mix of Latin fatalism (Poles are a Roman
      > Catholic Slavic nation) coupled with an unexpected Slavic attraction to risk
      > and possibility.
      >
      > For over a millennium the Polish language has been developing. It belongs to
      > the group of West Slavonic languages, together with Czech, Slovak and
      > Lusatian, and is now the official language of Poland, spoken by some 99
      > percent of the country's 38 million people. It is also spoken among Polish
      > communities scattered all over the globe, of which the largest live in the
      > U.S., the major nucleus being Chicago.
      > Polish is a phonetic language, which means that there's a consistent
      > relationship between pronunciation and spelling.
      > Here are some cultural tips to help you successfully work with the Poles as
      > well as the zlotys (that's the national currency): Expect to toast frequently
      > ("Na Zdrowie"). Drinking is more than customary.
      >
      • filipek.us Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 11.08.05, 16:05
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        Krupiński.

        Paszportowy szantaż

        Kontrateksty.

        Nasza Polonia.

        o Polonii jako NGO.

        Fora ze dwora.
      • jp.hi Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 12.08.05, 10:33
        > Sprobujcie wstawic np amerykanow do tego tekstu a okaze sie ze pasuaj jak
        ulal!

        Nic z tego nie pasuje do Amerykanow. Nie blaznij.
        • octopussy Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 12.08.05, 17:47
          Z tym How are you to sie zgodze nie znosze tego glupkowatego zdania na ktore
          musze odpowiadac chyba z 50 razy w ciagy dnia i jeszcze pamietac zeby sie ich
          spytac.
          • jot-23 Re: co inni mysla o Polakach..."CULTURAL TIPS" 12.08.05, 18:20
            octopussy napisała:

            > Z tym How are you to sie zgodze nie znosze tego glupkowatego zdania na ktore
            > musze odpowiadac chyba z 50 razy w ciagy dnia i jeszcze pamietac zeby sie ich
            > spytac.

            jestes kretynem, w polsce robi sie dokladnie to samo, w takim samym
            znaczeniu : "jak leci", "co tam u ciebie", "co slychac"

            tak samo sie tez odpowiada.

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