Tak wybiera Ameryka: Co się stało z Irakiem?

[maruda.r]

Amerykański system wyborczy już się zużył. Doprowadził do ewidentnego duopolu
partyjnego, w którym sami politycy się gubią.

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To trochę głupie, że tak mało ważny kraik decyduje o kampanii wyborczej w
najważniejszym kraju świata. Trzeba dać żołnierzom więcej informacji i nie
rozpytywać za bardzo, kiedy i po co strzelali.

Kobieta jastrząb zastąpi Georga Jastrzębia który

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mocno się skompromitował i zużył. To tak jak w postprlowskiej Polsce gdzie na
zmianę rządzi lewica, prawica i centrum ale wszyscy pochodzą z tego samego
Okrągłego Stołu i służą temu samemu Big Brotherowi.

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Opec urged to end use of dollar

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By: Aljazeera on: 19.11.2007 [15:29 ]

Both Ahmadinejad, left, and Chavez have proposed trading oil in a basket of
currencies AFP



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, has called on Opec members to stop
pricing oil in "worthless" US dollars.

"They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper," he told reporters at
the close of a two day meeting of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting
Countries in Saudi Arabia.


The fall in the value of the dollar has weakened the purchasing power of Opec
members and helped push oil prices to nearly $100 a barrel.

Ahmadinejad is to meet Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, later on Monday to
discuss the issue.


Chavez echoed Ahmadinejad's sentiment, saying "the empire of the dollar has to end".

Opec's summit in Riyadh ended on Sunday with leaders divided over whether to
dump the dollar as a currency to price and sell oil.

Both Iran and Venezuela have proposed trading oil in a basket of currencies to
replace the falling dollar, but a final statement from Opec after the meeting
did not include any reference to the weakening dollar.

Instead Opec vowed to keep providing Western consumers with an "adequate" supply
of oil.

Saudi Arabia, a staunch ally of the US, had opposed the move to include concerns
over the falling dollar included in the summit's closing statement and tried to
direct the focus of the summit towards studying the effect of the oil industry
on the environment.

Falling dollar

But both Iran and Venezuela made it clear that they would press for action on
the dollar, which could include pricing oil in a basket of currencies.

"There was a proposal from Iran and Venezuela to have a basket of currencies for
the pricing of OPEC oil," Bayan Jabor, the Iraqi finance minister, said.

"But a consensus could not be reached," he said, adding that backed by Ecuador,
the two had won agreement that finance ministers would discuss the issue before
a scheduled oil ministers meeting in Abu Dhabi on December 5.

"Because the final communique was already drafted, there was an agreement that
Opec finance ministers hold a meeting before the oil meeting in the UAE in
December to discuss economic issues including the dollar's exchange rate."

The Venezuelan leader had opened the summit urging Opec, which accounts for 40
per cent of world oil supplies, to be a "geopolitical agent".

Chavez lauded Opec's ability to ensure high oil prices for developing producer
nations, saying Opec "must stand up and act as a vanguard against poverty in the
world".

He threatened that if Washington follows through on military threats against
Iran, oil could double to $200 a barrel.

The summit, only the third in the group's history, also acknowledged the oil
industry's role in global warming, with pledges of cash for research into
climate change.



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Kill the Dirty Dollar
by BlackPanther on 19.11.2007 [15:55 ]
Kill the dirty Dollar and you knock out one key pillar of the American Reich itself.

This is the UNSPOKEN FEAR that America, its media, and propagandists of all
stripes hold.

All the disinformation and handwringing that one currently sees in the Media
about the "decline of the Dollar" and related issues are in large part driven
by--and mask--this basic fear: the Death of the FIAT Dollar.

Ahmadinejad calls U.S. dollar a 'worthless piece

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Ahmadinejad calls U.S. dollar a 'worthless piece of paper'
By: Sebastian Abbot on: 19.11.2007 [00:02 ]

OPEC Interested in Non-Dollar Currency
Ahmadinejad: OPEC Members Interested in Converting Cash Reserves Into Non-Dollar
Currency


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday
that OPEC's members have expressed interest in converting their cash reserves
into a currency other than the depreciating U.S. dollar, which he called a
"worthless piece of paper."

His comments at the end of a rare summit of OPEC heads of state exposed fissures
within the 13-member cartel — especially after U.S. ally Saudi Arabia was
reluctant to mention concerns about the falling dollar in the summit's final
declaration.

The hardline Iranian leader's comments also highlighted the growing challenge
that Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer, faces from Iran and its
ally Venezuela within the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

"They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper," Ahmadinejad told
reporters after the close of the summit in the Saudi capital of Riyadh. He
blamed U.S. President George W. Bush's policies for the decline of the dollar
and its negative effect on other countries.

Oil is priced in U.S. dollars on the world market, and the currency's
depreciation has concerned oil producers because it has contributed to rising
crude prices and has eroded the value of their dollar reserves.

"All participating leaders showed an interest in changing their hard currency
reserves to a credible hard currency," Ahmadinejad said. "Some said producing
countries should designate a single hard currency aside from the U.S. dollar ...
to form the basis of our oil trade."

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez echoed this sentiment Sunday on the sidelines
of the summit, saying "the empire of the dollar has to end."

"Don't you see how the dollar has been in free-fall without a parachute?" Chavez
said, calling the euro a better option.

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah had tried to direct the focus of the summit toward
studying the effect of the oil industry on the environment, but he continuously
faced challenges from Ahmadinejad and Chavez.

Iran and Venezuela have proposed trading oil in a basket of currencies to
replace the historic link to the dollar, but they had not been able to generate
support from enough fellow OPEC members — many of whom, including Saudi Arabia,
are staunch U.S. allies.

Both Iran and Venezuela have antagonistic relationships with the U.S.,
suggesting their proposals may have a political motivation as well. While Tehran
has been in a standoff with Washington over its nuclear program, left-wing
Chavez is a bitter antagonist of Bush. U.S. sanctions on Iran also have made it
increasingly difficult for the country to do business in dollars.

During Chavez's opening address to the summit on Saturday, the Venezuelan leader
said OPEC should "assert itself as an active political agent." But Abdullah
appeared to distance himself from Chavez's comments, saying OPEC always acted
moderately and wisely.

A day earlier, Saudi Arabia opposed a move by Iran on Friday to have OPEC
include concerns over the falling dollar included in the summit's closing
statement after the weekend meeting. Saudi Arabia's foreign minister even warned
that even talking publicly about the currency's decline could further hurt its
value.

But by Sunday, it appeared that Saudi Arabia had compromised. Though the final
declaration delivered Sunday did not specifically mention concern over the weak
dollar, the organization directed its finance ministers to study the issue.

OPEC will "study ways and means of enhancing financial cooperation among OPEC
... including proposals by some of the heads of state and governments in their
statements to the summit," OPEC Secretary General Abdalla Salem el-Badri said,
reading the statement.

Iran's oil minister went a step further and said OPEC will form a committee to
study the dollar's affect on oil prices and investigate the possibility of a
currency basket.

"We have agreed to set up a committee consisting of oil and finance ministers
from OPEC countries to study the impact of the dollar on oil prices," Gholam
Hussein Nozari told Dow Jones Newswires.

Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani said the committee would "submit to
OPEC its recommendation on a basket of currencies that OPEC members will deal
with." He did not give a timeline for the recommendation.

The meeting in Riyadh, with heads of states and delegates from 13 of the world's
biggest oil-producing nations, was the third full OPEC summit since the
organization was created in 1960.

Abdullah tried to take the focus off the dollar debate, announcing the donation
of $300 million to set up a program to study the effect of the oil industry on
the environment. Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates also agreed to
donate $150 million each to the fund, Prince Saud Al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's
foreign minister, said Sunday.

The run-up to the meeting was dominated by speculation over whether OPEC would
raise production following recent oil price increases that have approached $100.
But cartel officials have resisted pressure to increase oil production and said
they will hold off any decision until the group meets next month in Abu Dhabi,
United Arab Emirates.

They have also cast doubt on the effect any output hike would have on oil
prices, saying the recent rise has been driven by the falling dollar and
financial speculation by investment funds rather than any supply shortage.

During his final remarks, el-Badri stressed he was committed to supply — but did
not mention changing oil outputs.

"We affirm our commitment ... to continue providing adequate, timely, efficient,
economic and reliable petroleum supplies to the world market," he said.



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Nie klam GW!

[gurru]

znoow wciskacie ludziom swa klamliwa propagande. 99% Amerykanow
domaga sie natychmiastowego wycofania wojsk z Iraku.

Już za Stakina Adaś wciskał ludziom swoją kłamliwą

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propagandę.

Co się stało z Irakiem? Kto za kto przeciw?

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"W tym wielkim tłumie zwolenników lewicy stały cztery osoby z transparentami:
"Wyjdźmy z Iraku!".

A ilu stalo z transparentami "Zostanmy w Iraku"?

Juz od kilku kadencji, wybory prezydenckie w Stanach wygrywa kandydat z
najwiekszym budzetem. Kto zasila budzet wyborczy? Wielkie koncerny i najbardziej
wplywowe "Lobby".
Ktory kandydat ma dzisiaj najwieksza kase? Hillary "Bitch" Clinton.
Niewazne do jakiej parti nalezy. Wazne ze gwarantuje bezpieczenstwo Izraela i
zyski dla military-industrial-oil complex.

Dlaczego klamiesz GW?

[orwella]

www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
Irak jest najwazniejszym problemem dla wyborcow w USA.

Tak wybiera Ameryka: Co się stało z Irakiem?

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"Od kilku miesięcy przybywa dowodów, że rozpoczęta na początku roku ofensywa wojsk USA w Iraku przynosi efekty - liczba ofiar zarówno wśród żołnierzy amerykańskich, jak i Irakijczyków spada. Wyborcy w USA to dostrzegają. W styczniu aż 55 proc. Amerykanów mówiło, że Irak jest rzeczą publiczną, która najbardziej zaprząta ich myśli. W listopadzie deklaruje to już tylko 15 proc. Aż 44 proc. Amerykanów twierdzi dziś, że wojsku USA w Iraku idzie "bardzo dobrze" lub "dosyć dobrze"."


Wszystko im sie da wmówic. Małpy z brzytwą ...

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ewswr napisał:

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> Wszystko im sie da wmówic. Małpy z brzytwą ...


jak fakty sie nie poodobaja, to tym gorzej dla faktow :)

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maruda.r napisał:

>
> Amerykański system wyborczy już się zużył. Doprowadził do ewidentnego duopolu
> partyjnego, w którym sami politycy się gubią.
>

kazdy ma prawo miec sowje zdanie maruda, ale przez cala doktryne prawa i nauk
politycznych, dwupartyjny system polityczny uwazany jest za idealny z punktu
widzenia funkcjonowania panstwa.

Maruda dba o dobro USA :)

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maruda.r napisał:

>
> Amerykański system wyborczy już się zużył. Doprowadził do ewidentnego duopolu
> partyjnego, w którym sami politycy się gubią.
>


Moze sajmij sie swoim krajem, zanim bedziesz ocenial, czy swietnie funkcjonujacy
dwupartyjny system polityczny nie Twojego panstwa sie zuzyl.