26.06.02, 20:35
why are you people so stuck up? Why do you always have to fight? Until 1989 no
one talked about Silesia. Now, all of a sudden you pretend to be a yet other
nationality. Grow up! We do not need another Northern Ireland or Spain.
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    • Gość: Martin Re: why? IP: *.dwi.uw.edu.pl 29.06.02, 11:18
      Right, nobody needs another Northen Irland in Europe, but how about another
      Scotland and/or Wales. They did regain their local parliaments. Up to 1990 nobody
      talked about Upper Silesia because Poland was not a democratic country. It is
      natural for civic societies to demand strong self government, is it not? As long
      as the pressure on central government is imposed peacefully, I am all for it.

      What we experienced in Poland in 1997 was in no way 'reforma samorzadowa'- just
      another administartive reform. The limited powers gained by the local authorites
      are being used efficiently in most places in Upper Silesia- in Rybnik or Katowice
      for instance the town councils have even obtained ISO certificates- sth that is
      beoynd the reach of many Polish companies, not to mention public service. Why
      should people not want stronger region when the local level seems to be the only
      working part of this state. In most other means Poland seems to be falling apart.
      What are your alternatives? Polish party log rolling, inefficiency and
      corruption? Warsaw party people send down by Millers and Krzaklewskis in
      brieftaschen?
      There is one point more- the EU is most of all regions. In Brussels it is them
      who lobby, fight for funds and DETERMINE THE QUALITY of membership. If for
      ideological or other reasons Poland does not give up its centralism, nobody in
      Poland will fully benefit from the EU membership.

      > why are you people so stuck up? Why do you always have to fight? Until 1989 no
      > one talked about Silesia. Now, all of a sudden you pretend to be a yet other
      > nationality. Grow up! We do not need another Northern Ireland or Spain.

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