malkontent6 23.11.17, 19:06 Wszystkim Amerykanom na forum składam życzenia smacznego indyka. Moja wnuczka przyjedzie już za 15 minut i będziemy razem świętować. :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
karbat Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 19:21 gdzies ty tutaj widzial na fs amerykanina amerykanin piszacy po polsku , do tego na fs musi jakis wariat. super smieszne sa gostki podkreslajacy swoja polskosc swoj patriotyzm , zwracajacy sie do ...... amerykanow rozdwojenie jazni . - schizofrenia. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
newworld2017 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 20:04 każdy kto kocha WOlność jest Amerykaninem Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
engine8 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 19:29 Dzieki, Rowniez Tobie i rodzinie podobne zyczenia z cieplutkiej (jak na razie o 10 rano jest +32C ) Kaliforni.. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
5magna Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 20:12 Trump ocalil 2 indyki a wy chcecie je zabijac... barbarzyncy... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
engine8 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 20:30 We only killin' "old turkeys" and "cold turkeys" Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
yurek11111 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 21:13 We radio slyszalem ze swieto dziekczynienia jednoczy wszystkich Amerykanow ktorzy w Thanksgiving zgodnie swietuja, wtedy pomyslalem czy Indianie rowniez zasiadaja do swietowania....w rezerwatach no I czy to sa Amerykanie... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
engine8 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 23:18 Roznie to bywalo z tym.... O tu np jak to bylo na Pn- Zachodzie www.seattlepi.com/local/transportation/article/Natives-in-Seattle-Probably-not-in-on-early-12377920.php Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
engine8 Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 23.11.17, 23:22 ale mozna na to spojrzec inaczej Be Thankful Be thankful that you don't already have everything you desire. If you did, what would there be to look forward to? Be thankful when you don't know something, for it gives you the opportunity to learn. Be thankful for the difficult times. During those times, you grow. Be thankful for your limitations, because they give you opportunities for improvement. Be thankful for each new challenge, because it will build your strength and character. Be thankful for your mistakes. They will teach you valuable lessons. Be thankful when you're tired and weary, because it means you've made a difference. It's easy to be thankful for the good things. A life of rich fulfillment comes to those who are also thankful for the setbacks. Gratitude can turn a negative into a positive. Find a way to be thankful for your troubles, and they can become your blessings. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
5magna Re: Happy Thanksgiving Day 24.11.17, 03:00 Mowiac prosto.. Niema tego zlego co by na dobre nie wyszlo.... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
de_oakville Nikt Ci nie zabroni czuc sie Amerykaninem 24.11.17, 11:18 yurek11111 napisał: > We radio slyszalem ze swieto dziekczynienia jednoczy wszystkich Amerykanow ktor > zy w Thanksgiving zgodnie swietuja, wtedy pomyslalem czy Indianie rowniez zasia > daja do swietowania....w rezerwatach no I czy to sa Amerykanie... Poprawna terminologia wobec Indian to "Native Americans". Sa jeszcze inni Amerykanie tacy jak np. "Hispanic Americans", "African Americans" itd. Poprawnosc w okreslaniu tych ludzi nie oznacza jednak, ze wielu bialych ma np. czarnych przyjaciol i vice versa. Ale o tym czy jestes Amerykaninem decyduja tam bardziej twoje maniery, grubosc potfela oraz za kogo sie sam uwazasz. Mozesz uwazac sie za Amerykanina i nikt ci tego nie zabroni ani cie za to nie napietnuje. Sprobuj byc czarnym i uwazac sie za Polaka albo Rosjanina (choc spiewali "dla nas niet ni czornych ni cwietnych"). Mozesz sie tam nawet nazywac "Ahuja" (prawdziwe nazwisko bodajze rodem z Hawajow) i tez ci nikt nie bedzie za to dokuczal (dobrze, ze wielu nie zna polskiego). Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
yurek11111 Re: Nikt Ci nie zabroni czuc sie Amerykaninem 25.11.17, 02:41 Zamiast sie wymadrzac nie na temat,odpowiedz czy rdzenni mieszkancy USA i Kanady czyli Indianie, swietuja Thanksgiving ..... de_oakville : o 'Ahuja'.... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
yurek11111 Re: Nikt Ci nie zabroni czuc sie Amerykaninem 25.11.17, 03:23 Wyczytalem ze tak 'swietuja' : Thanksgiving is considered by some to be a ‘national day of mourning’ Like Columbus Day, the holiday is viewed by many to be a celebration of the conquest of Native Americans by colonists. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
yurek11111 Re: Nikt Ci nie zabroni czuc sie Amerykaninem 25.11.17, 03:41 A niektorzy twierdza ze Thanksgiving zostal ustanowiony z powodu tego wydarzenia : "I learned that in 1637 the body of a white man was discovered dead in a boat. Armed settlers — which we tell our children were God fearing, gentle, sharing, kind Pilgrims — invaded a Pequot village. They also set the village, which included many children, on fire. Those who were lucky enough to escape the fire were systematically sought, hunted down and killed. While many, including historians, still debate what exactly happened this day, also known as the Pequot Massacre, it directly led to the creation of “Thanksgiving Day.” This is what the governor of Bay Colony had to say days after the massacre, “A day of thanksgiving. Thanking God that they had eliminated over 700 men, women and children.” William B. Newell, a Penobscot Indian and former chairman of the Anthropology Department at the University of Connecticut stated, “Gathered in this place of meeting, they were attacked by mercenaries and English and Dutch. The Indians were ordered from the building and as they came forth were shot down, The rest were burned alive in the building. The very next day the governor declared a Thanksgiving Day. For the next 100 years, every Thanksgiving Day ordained by a Governor was in honor of the bloody victory, thanking God that the battle had been won.” Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
zeitgeist2010 Day of mourning – dzien zaloby 25.11.17, 10:40 yurek11111 napisał: > A niektorzy twierdza ze Thanksgiving zostal ustanowiony z powodu tego wydarzeni > a : "I learned that in 1637 the body of a white man was discovered dead in a boat. The controversies surrounding the origins of Thanksgiving were of course familiar to me but I didn´t touch it out of respect for the natural joy of our recently naturalised Americans. But since the topic was brought up anyway it´s worth reviewing some sources and claryfying some facts. SInce it´s ENglish I enjoy every bit of it :) The massacre of 1637 may or may not be considered the true origin of the Thanksgiving celebration as conceived by the European and all non-”native Americans”. ”NO giving, no thanks.” Fact is that the majority? /Some Indians do not join the tradition and even more. They call it the Day of mourning. Then as it happens quite so often in USA the current form of the feast is fictional. The ALgonquian tribes of the East Coast used to celebrate the gifts of nature 5 times a year since times immemorial. The first documented celebration with Whites was initiated by the Pilgrims but entirely provided by the Wampanoagas and their chief, Massasoit and 2 English speaking Indians Squanto and Samoset. The took place end September, early October. All the food was provided by the Indians: venison, fish, maybe some poultry. turkey possible but that´s not a corroborated fadt and of course plenty of corn – the ubigitous nourishment of both Americas. The Indian squaws were sitting eating on the ground by their male warriors. The Pilgrim women were waiting standing behind. They were allowed to eat as early as the men frinished (sic!) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
lont12 Indianin - to brzmi dumnie 25.11.17, 09:35 po co zmieniać na "Native American"? ...a huia to po maorysku, nazwa ich ptaka znanego z takiego gwizdu: huu-i, hu-u-i, hui, huia Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
yurek11111 Re: Indianin - to brzmi dumnie 25.11.17, 23:47 Ogladalem kiedys film o maorysach , obraz degrengolady , narkotyki ,zwiazki kaziorodcze , przemoc , brutalnosc i kryminal , tez przybyszom nie maja za co dziekowac... Przestroga dla Europy , multikulti moze w przyszlosci oznaczac rezerwaty dla rdzennych Europejczykow , czego nie chca zauwazyc oderwane od rzeczywistosci rzadzace elity... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś