Hej , zio-nazisci , po cholere sprowadzacie ludzi

[Gość: sp;lit]

do tego zio-nazistowskiego dziadostwa , skoro was nie stac , zeby im zapewnic
prace , dach i trzy posilki dziennie ? Wielu z nich zylo o wiele lepiej , tam
skad przyjechali . Prawie 1/3 narodu ponizek poverty line ,...

uklony

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NII: Number of poor on the rise in Israel
=================================================

By Ruth Sinai, Haaretz Correspondent

The National Insurance Institute is expected to report that 100,000 more
people, including 60,000 children, fell below the poverty line in 2003
compared to the previous year.

According to forecasts, it is estimated that there are 1,430,000 poor people
in Israel, including 680,000 children, and that the income of poor families
fell by an average of seven percent.

The largest group of poor in Israel in 2003 was the unemployed. The second
largest group of poor comprised families in which at least one family head
was working.

The annual report on poverty is to be presented this week to Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon who has held the welfare portfolio since the resignation of NRP
MK Zevulun Orlev 10 days ago.

In 2002, one out of every five Israelis - 1,321,000 people - was below the
poverty line. This figure included 340,000 families, or 18 percent of all
families in Israel.

I to nazi_islamistow....

[Gość: jarek-Zyd ne telus]

[Gość: sp;lit]

Nu pobudka stary ,... Tych tez sprowadzaja ? Ja slyszalem o jakichs indianach z
Peru :)

uklony

[rattler]

Armatniego miesa nigdy nie za duzo , francuzi zalatwili to legionem i placa za
uslugi jak trzeba , honorowo - Zionaziole maja to samo za friko :)

narazie

[...]

[jarek-jude]

Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.

[...]

[Gość: kuk]

Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.

Zapytaj sie ich , nas ich rozmazanie nie

[jarek-jude]

interesuje, nas ich rozmnazanie przeraza.

Przepraszam, o kim mowimy

[Gość: ABE]

Zydach czy Palestynskich Arabach?
Palestynczycy zyja ponizej poverty line, co jest zjawiskiem powszechnie znanym
i zaplanowanym przez rzad Izraela. Tzw polityka wycienczenia "wroga" przed
wyniszczeniem "wroga". To dlatego palestynskim farmerow nie daje sie dostepu do
ich ogrodow oliwkowych azeby zebrac plony, jak rowniez odcina sie ich od rynku
pracy. To dlatego sprowadza sie pseudo_Zydow z bylych republic radzieckich
azeby wypelnic luke na rynku pracy z niewykwalifikowana sila robocza.

Sama zgadnij, gdzie jest rekord swiatowy

[jarek-jude]

w ilosci dzieci na matke....

[Gość: sp;lit]

Palestynczycy w Israel'u o ile sie nie myle stanowia 1/5-ta populacji , a z
tego artykulu wynika , ze prawie 1/3-cia , zyje ponizej poverty line ,...

uklony

[Gość: totyle]

1/5 palestynczykow tylko?.No to ladnie ich wyniszczyli.
ABE ma 100% racji jezeli chodzi o systematyczne wyniszczanie palestynczykow.
Import pseudozydow to jedna z zydowskich taktyk aby palestynczyk nie pracowal
lecz jakis rusek ktory bedzie palal miloscia do izraela za to ze mu dali
wyplate,marna ale dali.Swego czasu bodajze trzy lata temu jakis rabe sprowadzil
peruwianskich pastuchow z wysokichAndow (ok.130)aby udawali zydow.Dal im
dwutygodniowe przeszkolenie syjonistyczne i juz zydy peruwianskie mogly na
terenach gorzystych odpierac skutecznie palestynskiego terroryste.

[Gość: ABE]

Ja ogladalam raportaz o 'nowych' Zydach w Izraelu, glownie z Rosji. Byly tez
wywiady z nimi (tymi, ktorzy nie obawiali sie mowic otwarcie bo zdecydowali sie
wracac do Rosji). Bylo o tym jak ida na intesywne kursy judaistyczne, o tym jak
traktowani sa jako obywatele drugiej kategorii i pogardliwie przez
Izraelczykow. Sa oni po prostu sprowadzani jak maszyny aby zastepowac
Palestynczykow w maloplatnych, manualnych pracach. Wielu 'kierowanych' jest to
nowych "osiedli" gdzie co im sie uda chapnac to 'ich' jest z nadania przez
Izrael.
To wlasnie ci zydzi stanowia te pozostale 2/15 biedoty w Izraelu.

[Gość: sp;lit]

Dlatego nie wierze w to ze sie wycofaja ,... Zio-nazistom jest potrzebna ziemia
a nie pokoj , popatrz kto tam rzadzi , IDF i pingwiny , ci pierwsi kim by byli
gdyby nie konflikt , wszystkie wazniejsze panstwowe stanowiska sa obsadzone
przez bylych generalow . Teokratyczna hunta wojskowa , a nie zadna demokracja .

uklony

[Gość: ABE]

Dla elity rzadzacej w Izraelu istnienie rzesz biedoty zydowskiej jest wrecz
niezbedne do przetrwania Izraela jako panstwa. Choc nie sa w stanie zapewnic
tej biedocie zydowskiego pochodzenia zadnych srodkow do zycia, to ta biedota
jest zastrzykiem zycia dla umierajacego eretz Izraela. Stwarza ona pozory
homogenicznosci narodowej Izraela, i zapewnia doplyw sily roboczej po
eliminacji dotychczas ekspolatowanej palestynskiej mniejszosci narodowej.

Po raz trzeci to powtarzam: Klimat!!!

[Gość: Gucio]

> Bo w klimacie Palestyny suki zydowskie szczenia sie 'Born to kill'
nekrofilami!!!!

[Gość: VAK-YZRL]

So this Jew, Arab, Georgian and Samaritan go to court...

By Moshe Gorali

The state denies there is any such nationality as `Israeli'

A group of Israeli public figures last week petitioned the High Court of
Justice to order the Interior Ministry to register them as Israelis. "We're
Israeli, and wish to be registered as such," said the petition, presented by
Attorney Yoela Har-Shefi

The Interior Ministry has a list of 137 nationalities, including Abkhazi,
Assyrian and Samaritan - but you won't find "Israeli" among them. The State of
Israel doesn't recognize the existence of "Israeli" as a nationality.

The petitioning group is headed by Professor Uzi Ornan of the Hebrew University
and the Technion and the 38 intellectuals, academics and scientists include
Shulamit Aloni, Uri and Rahel Avneri, Yehoshua Sobol, Gavriel Solomon, Yigal
Eilam, Meron Benvenisti, Yehoshua Porat and Oren Yifta'el.

Also in the group is singer Alon Olearchik, formerly of the army Nahal
entertainment group and the Israeli rock band Caveret - his mother is Christian
and father Jewish, so he is not Jewish. Adal Ka'adan, the Israeli Arab who
tried in vain to buy a house in the Katzir community, also wants to be
registered as Israeli.

Among the petitioners are those categorized on the identity cards
as "Jew," "Druze," "Georgian," "Russian," and even one "Hebrew." Not one of
them is "Israeli," and the reason is simple - the Israeli state does not
recognize any Israeli nationality that isn't Jewish. Even the Supreme Court
ruled in 1970 that there was no such thing as Israeli nationality.

Georg Rafael Tamrin returned from a visit overseas to find a new law - an
amendment to the law following the "who is a Jew" affair - ruling that to be an
Israeli one must be a member of "the Jewish nation." Tamrin asked the
population registrar to change the nationality clause in his identity card
from "Jewish" to "Israeli." He maintained that "there is already a definite
Israeli nationality today, to which I belong according to all subjective
criteria - identification, feeling of belonging, loyalty and declaring it."

Tel Aviv District Court Judge Yitzhak Shilo rejected Tamrin's suit stating "a
person cannot create a new nationality just by saying it exists, and then say
he belongs to it." Shilo then added the real reason: "I can fully declare that
there is no Israeli nation that exists separately from a Jewish nation."

Tamrin appealed to the High Court of Justice, which adopted the District
Court's position. Justice Shimon Agranat denounced the petitioner: "If a
handful of people or more wish to separate themselves from the Jewish people -
only 23 years after the establishment of the state - and acquire the status of
a separate Israeli nation, this separatist trend should not be regarded as
legitimate and should not be recognized."

Who is a Druze?

The new petition challenges these conclusions. Professor Ornan, formerly the
chairman of the League Against Religious Coercion and the Israeli secular
movement, is the chairman of the "I am Israeli" organization, which has
collected more than 2,000 signatures of Israelis. One petitioner, former Air
Force commander General Benny Peled, died, but signed a power of attorney for
the group.

Another petitioner is Druze businessman Carmel Wahaba. In 1990 he and his
French partners wished to set up an import-export company in France. The
company's registration required a notarized translation of his birth
certificate.

When the French clerk saw the translated documents, he scolded Wahaba: "What's
a Druze nationality? I know of no Druze state. Do you want to tell me that
there is a Druze state within the State of Israel?"

Wahaba, who was suspected of trying to trick the French authorities, tried to
explain but the clerk would have none of it, demanding authorization from the
embassy that the translation was accurate and that Wahaba was indeed an Israeli
whose nationality was Druze.

Petitioner David Yanukshvili, a pensioner, is registered as "Georgian." The
petition says: "He abandoned Georgia and wishes to conduct his whole life in
the State of Israel, not merely as a citizen but as a member of the Israeli
nation. Why is the Georgian nationality being foisted on him?"

Ornan once classified himself as Canaanite, a member of an ideological group
whose founders included the late poet Yonatan Ratosh. When Ratosh's ID was
lost, the Interior Ministry issued him a new one, citing his nationality
as "Jewish." Ratosh hastened to appeal to the High Court of Justice to be
registered as "Hebrew" again - a term which appears on the Interior Ministry's
list of nationalities.

"What is the Hebrew nationality?" asks the petition. "Just because two or three
obstinate people insisted on their right to be registered as such, and the High
Court consented, a Hebrew nationality was created, while the firm reality of an
Israeli nationality is not recognized as such? It seems to us that the right of
tens of thousands, who declared their nationality to be Israeli, is no less
than the right of the Hebrews, whose right was recognized."

Social harmony

The petitioners believe every man has a right to belong to the nationality of
his choice. It is not right to force a person to be classified according to his
religion in an essential official document, since this leads to discrimination
against members of various religions.

It is even less proper to force an atheist or someone openly hostile to
religion to be identified with his "religion," since this is a kind of
religious coercion.

The petition further says that "Israel and any representative Jewish
organization are always fighting tooth and nail against mentioning that a
person is `Jewish' in official documents of other states. How come something
that is an abomination when done by others, becomes worthy and kosher when we
do it?"

In democratic Western states citizenship is usually identical in meaning to
nationality. In Israel the clause "citizenship" in the population registration
office is accompanied by another clause called "nationality."
Hence "nationality" and "citizenship" in Israel are two different things.

About three years ago, when the High Court instructed then Interior Minister
Eli Yishai to register Reform converts as "Jews" in the nationality clause, the
minister ordered the clause to be canceled in IDs. Instead of "Jew" a row of
stars appears now. A lady who applied for a new ID when her old one wore out
was amazed to find stars instead of her Jewish identity. She appealed to the
High Court of Justice to reinstate the "Jew" classification.

Attorney Har-Shefi expects both petitions to be debated together so that the
court can examine the affiliation between Judaism and being Israeli. There is
no contradiction between the two, she says. Just like there is an American Jew,
there can be an Israeli Jew.

"The American Jew is both American by nationality and Jewish, and so is the
French Jew or the Norwegian Jew. We believe that an Israeli Jew is also
eligible to be called Israeli, while being a member of the Israeli nationality,
like his brother who belongs to the American nationality," the petition says.

The arguments go into values, interests and comparative law, the right of man
for self definition, equality, realizing his rights from the Declaration of
Independence and even strengthening the harmony in Israeli society.

The petition also cites the Or Commission's ruling that "a central goal of the
state's activity must be obtaining real equality for the state's Arab citizens.
Recognizing the right of all those who feel that way - both Jews and Arabs -
and want to define themselves as Israelis, would open the way to minimizing
discrimination, helping reconciliation, and

[Gość: sp;lit]

He he he , a to dobre , to ta cala polish speaking zgraja z ciucka na czele
figuruje w zio-nazistowskich ID Cards as a fuckin' polacks ,... :)))

Trzeba bedzie z tego zrobic uzytek - Zebry :) Musze to przeczytac jeszcze raz ,
bo za cholere nie moge przyswoic tej koszernej "logiki"

uklony

[Gość: ABE]

Polacks czy Jews?

[Gość: ABE]

Dana bedzie figurowac jako Jew (nie Polish, i dobrze bo to nie jej):
Among the petitioners are those categorized on the identity cards
as "Jew," "Druze," "Georgian," "Russian," and even one "Hebrew." Not one of
them is "Israeli,"
"Jew" jest categoria, ktora akceptuja jako narodowosci wyraznie

[Gość: sp;lit]

Mowilem ze musze przeczytac jeszcze raz :))) Skoro jest "russian" to dana
ma "polish" a ze a Jew to jest wiadome - Rozumiesz cos z tego ,... Apartheid !

uklony

[Gość: ABE]

TO jest rzeczywiscie popieprzone. Apartheid byl znacznie prostszy.

[rattler]

Maja tak zapisane , zeby wiedzieli gdzie spie..c jak im sie ziemia zacznie
palic pod nogami :) Cos mi to smierdzi naciaganymi liczbami survivers i
odszkodowaniami dla Holokaust Industry .

narazie

[Gość: ABE]

Cos w tym jest:
"Cos mi to smierdzi naciaganymi liczbami survivers i
> odszkodowaniami dla Holokaust Industry "
Tez mi sie towarzystwo zaczyna mnozyc przed oczami...

[dana33]

nu, rozlupaniec, cieszysz sie jak glupi. w mojej id jest napisane "zyd" a nie
"fuckin' polacks". fuckin' polacks to wlasnie ty.

[Gość: sp;lit]

To jak ty to wytlumaczysz , ciucka , niby dlaczego akurat ciebie ten zaszczyt
spotkal a tych nie ? Masz jakies extra przywileje ? W demokracji jaka ja znam
nie wyroznia sie ludzi na urzedowych dokumentach . Dlaczego zyd w innych
krajach demokracji moze byc Niemcem , Szwajcarem , Amerykanem , a u siebie w
Israel'u nie moze byc Izraelczykiem ?

uklony

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Among the petitioners are those categorized on the identity cards
as "Jew," "Druze," "Georgian," "Russian," and even one "Hebrew." Not one of
them is "Israeli," and the reason is simple - the Israeli state does not
recognize any Israeli nationality that isn't Jewish.
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nu, rozlupaniec, cieszysz sie jak glupi. w mojej id jest napisane "zyd" a nie
"fuckin' polacks". fuckin' polacks to wlasnie ty.

[rattler]

Hehehe , Dana nie rozczulaj siem nad Sp:litem i powiedz nam dlaczego ty jestes
zyd a tamten jest ruski , bo spac nie mogie :)

narazie

[Gość: sp;lit]

Dana sama nie wie , dlatego nie odpowiada i wcale jej sie nie dziwie , bo
musiala by bronic apartheid'u , a ona przeciez demokratka w "demokracji" :)

uklony

CD.....

[Gość: VAK-YZRL]

The petition also cites the Or Commission's ruling that "a central goal of the
state's activity must be obtaining real equality for the state's Arab citizens.
Recognizing the right of all those who feel that way - both Jews and Arabs -
and want to define themselves as Israelis, would open the way to minimizing
discrimination, helping reconciliation, and establishing all Israelis
identification with their state."

According to surveys, Har-Shefi says 60 percent of Israeli Arabs would jump at
the chance of being registered as Israelis. Today only about 25 percent of them
are registered as Israelis.

As for Jews, the recognition of the Israeli nationality would remove a source
of dispute and division both among Israeli Jews and between Israel's Jews and
the diaspora Jews, the petition says.

The petition's main object is separating state from religion, or at least
separating religion from nationality. Petitioner Nili Kook is the widow of
Professor Hillel Kook, who died two years ago.

"He told me that his great uncle, Rabbi Kook, would have supported the
petition. Like the late Professor Yeshayahu Leibovitz, he wished to separate
religion from nationality and the state. They believed only such separation
would increase respect for religion in Israel," Har-Shefi says.

The appointment of Avraham Poraz as Interior Minister raised hopes among the
petitioners but their requests to him, like their letters to Haim Ramon when he
was Interior Minister, went unheeded. The loaded issue was shelved. A petition
to the High Court is a good way to raise an issue for the agenda, but it is
doubtful whether the High Court is the right address.

As Judge Shilo said, a nationality is not created by saying it exists. It is
hard to assume that the judges say so would create the Israeli nationality. On
the other hand, Supreme Court President Justice Aharon Barak is retiring in
about three years and perhaps history, in the form of 38 "Israelis," has
provided him with the last big case to create another revolution.



Adal Ka'adan


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"The petition's main object is separating state from religion, or at least
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Syjonistyczna elita Izreale nigdy sie na to nie zgodzi. To bylby koniec
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[rattler]

Pouczajacy post , dziekuje z adnotacja , ze po przecztaniu tego 'arcydziela'
quasi-logicznego myslenia dostalem oczoplasu i mniej rozumiem niz przed :) Toz
to ku.. jest bardziej skomplikowane niz ostatnio wydany pamflet regulaminu
wedkarsko-mysliwskiego naszego Stanu . Tu jednak podano numer telefonu do
bieglego w prawie , ktory wyjasni jak cos nie rozumiem - Jak mam 3 dni na to
zeby sie dodzwonic :))) Moze ktos z koszernej zgrai wyjasni o co tu chodzi zio-
naziolom - Fredziu , moze ty ?

narazie

Musza byc zydy!!!

[Gość: Gucio]

> Jakzebym mogl inaczej nawolywac do oszczedzania energii?

> Palic zydem!!!


> To brzmi przyzwoicie i naturalnie przeciez!!!!