Hutzpa wszechczasow

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Jak zapewne wiecie twin towers byly wynajete jednemu arabowi ktory nazywal
sie Silverstein. ten Silverstein poczebowal ubezpieczyc te towers i on wniosl
sprawe do sadu, ze poniewaz byly dwa samoloty ( uwazacie!) to on chce
PODWOJNE odzkodowanie!!!!!
Teraz ten bezczelny Arab zamiast dostac 3.5 miliarda zakasuje 7 miliardow!!!
Sad na Manhattanie ( agdziezby indziej ) oglosil ze to jest OK!!!!!

Szczere gratulacje dla niezawislego sadownictwa USA!!!!






Jury Says Destruction
Of Twin Towers Was
Two Events
Insurance Case Clears Way for Bigger Settlement
By Larry Neumeister
12-6-4

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal jury decided Monday that the destruction of
the World Trade Center was two events for insurance purposes, meaning
leaseholder Larry Silverstein can collect twice from companies because
separate planes hit two towers.

The verdict in U.S. District Court in Manhattan was the latest twist in
Silverstein's efforts to turn his $3.5 billion insurance policy on the trade
center complex into a $7 billion payout.

The jury was asked to rule specifically whether the terrorism could be
considered one or two events for nine of the trade center's 24 insurance
companies.

Regardless of the insurance payout, Silverstein and redevelopment officials
have promised to rebuild the trade center complex in the next decade,
including 10 million square feet of office space, a memorial and cultural
buildings.

The insurance companies involved in the case were: Travelers Indemnity Co.,
Industrial Risk Insurers, Royal Indemnity Co., Allianz Insurance Co., Tokio
Marine and Fire Insurance Co., Twin City Fire Insurance Co., Tig Insurance
Co., Westfield WTC LLC and Zurich American Insurance Co.

In her closing argument, lawyer Carolyn H. Williams argued on behalf of the
companies that the hijacked planes were like guided missiles and that the
insurance payout should not depend on whether terrorists used "one or two or
10 or 100 weapons."

On behalf of Silverstein, attorney Bernard Nussbaum said there was precedent
in the insurance industry to find the terrorism was two events. A California
case concluded that four separate insurance events occurred when an arsonist
set four separate fires, including two six minutes apart in courthouses 200
yards apart.

Czy ktos niedawno nie wspominal ze ogladal "Ziemie Obiecana" ?

Wez pod uwage fakt, ze w N.Y. adwokat jest zydem,

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> sedzia jest zydem, no i lawnikow sie tez z pomiedzy zydow wybiera!

> A ja czytalem ze na jakies tygodnie przed 9/11 te chaty tam ubezpieczyli na
300% wiecej, anizeli to bylo do tego czasu ubezpieczone.

to i tak dobrze ze ten Arab nazywal sie

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Silverstein, a nie np Goldstein, albo nie daj Boze Goldberg!!!! -
ci by cale zloto z fortu Knox za to odzkodowanie do Arabii wywiezli!

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Chyba coś przeoczyłem czy ew. następuje regres - i należy ponownie czytać
między wierszami. To w końcu wykrztuś to jest Arab czy Żyd? A tak przy okazji w
jakiś gazecie z Hameryki czytałem ostatnio, że firma tego cwaniaczka
ubezpieczyła WTC na kilka dni przed radem komanda Osamy. Co za dziwny zbieg
okoliczności. Tak jak i wiele wiele innych spraw.

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Oczywiscie ze Arab - antysemito!
Szwejka nie czytales, czy co?

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Szwejka czytałem - to było tak dawno. Film (najlepsza to czechosłowacka wersja,
choć ocenzurowana i nie przedstawia przygód Szwejak w Sowietach) widziałem -
też bardzo dawno temu.
Hmm, czy ja jestem antysemita? Do licha, nie mogę sobie przypomnieć bym
kiedykolwiek mówił z pogardą o: Etiopczykach. Asyryjczykach, Arabach,
Chaldejczykach czyli Semitach. Wiesz coś na ten temat? Może jakieś małe
przypomnienie?
Co do reszty wszystko się zgadza tak jak w wiadomości z radia Erewan - w
Moskwie rozdają rowery. Gdy w rzeczywistości nie w Moskwie, nie rowery i nie
rozdają. Bo za niewinność dostaje się dychę. Jak w koszer banku:)

To prawda o tym dodatkowym ubezpieczeniu

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na dwa miesiace przed 9/11. Silverstein wszczal druga sprawe o wyplate z tegoz
ubezpieczenia rowniez. Skupil te polisy - skad wiedzial, ze tak dobrze na nich
zarobi to juz tylko mozna spekulowac
xtramsn.co.nz/money/0,,5484-3918890,00.html
-przeczytaj ten paragraph about the second trail for some 3.75mln.

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Sady USA bardzo sie troszcza finansowo o Arabow.Gdyby to byl zyd to by go do
ciupy zamkli i o spiskowanie przeciwko buszolomam posadzili.

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To nie ich prawo jest poje..e ale ci, ktorzy to prawo interpretuja, na korzysc
tych, ktorzy ich oplacaja.
W normalnym prawie polisa ubezpieczeniowa o maxymalnej wartosci $3.5ml
zakladajac, ze to jest wlasnie maxymalna wartosc ubezpieczonej nieruchomosci
nie moze byc pomnozona na dwa bo byloby to "undue enrichment" czyli niesluszne
wzbogacenie sie na stracie zamiast odzyskanie straty. To sa wielkie zydowskie
jaka.

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wypierdek hitlera

[fredzio54]

Zablo
dlaczego u was atakauja w australij Zydow tam nie jest polska albo arabistan
napislaem do twojego premiera

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Znany politolog, Zyszek (choc dla mnie podrzedniejszej kategorii nazistowski
szczyl), znow wyskakuje z nowymi rewelacjami.
Gdyby poszkodowanym nie byl Larry Silverstein, ale jakis np.James Baker, farmer
z Minnesoty, nawet nie pisnalby slowa na ten temat.
Historia prawa USA roi sie od roszczen ubezpieczonych wlascicieli wobec osob
prywatnych,firm ubezpieczeniowych i zwyklych.Roi sie od procesow o wyplate
gigantycznych odszkodowan za poniesione straty materialne, na zdrowiu, itp -
np.ostatnio koncern szwedzki, Alfa Laval, zostanie zasadzony o miliardowe(w
dolarach) odszkodowania...Chcial sie wykpic nedznymi dwoma miliardami, ale sad
w USA uznal, ze to za malo...

Ale naziscie,Koreywie, nie chodzi o pieniadze - jemu chodzi o to, ze w tym
konkretnym przypadku w sprawe pieniedzy, duzych pieniedzy, zaplatany byl(a
przeciez nie mogl nie byc) wlasciciel calego centrum. To niedobrze, ale...
zarazem ...dobrze:tlumaczy bowiem - co juz podnosily forumowe faszystowskie
blazny - sprawe "tanczacych na dachu Zydow",patrzacych na walace sie
wysokosciowce.
Ich perfidna wtedy radosc potwierdza wysokosc wyplacanego dzis za straty
materialne odszkodowania - zdaniem blaznow, "wybitnych znawcow prawa i
ekonomistow" zarazem :o wiele za duza.Coz z tego, ze sad uznal roszczenia
Silversteina i przyznal mu racje: Silverstein to Zyd i to wlasnie jest, przede
wszystkim, dla nich decydujacym faktorem.

Zbyszek Koreywo to, niestety, prymitywny faszysta bez "klasy" - jego brat-lata,
Cep, bije go na glowe. Ale widac, ze jest potrzebny, ze wypelniea "pozyteczna"
funkcje. Obecnosc innych, rownie "swiatlych ciemniakow" i ich wypowiedzi
potwierdzaja nasza wczesniejsza opinie o tej zbieraninie.
(J)

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a co to za problem, sprawa między ubezpieczycielem a ubezpieczonym, to chyba
tylko ich brocha, aby tylko stolzman nie chcial się tam dolożyć do tego
odszkodowania.

To musi teraz nosi nick-cien gucia

[krystian71]

Dobrze sie zamaskowal,ale nie ma to jak kagebowska czujnosc!

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Masz racje-watek do gory!
(J)

jesli chodzi o hutzpy wszechczasow zawsze warto

[krystian71]

zadac sobie troche trudu ,by watek byl na widoku,moje ty zaropiale oczko

Najlepsze jest to ze w 1989 roku

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planowano zburzenie obu wiez i zbudowaniu nowych - koszt calej operacji
to - 5.6 bln !!!!!!
Wniosek:
Arab Silverstain zarobil dodatkowe 1.9 bln dolarow na terrorystach.



Plans To Scrap WTC
Towers For $5.6 Bn In 1989!
From Karl W. B. Schwarz
[e-mail]
12-6-4

To Jimmy Walter

Hi Jimmy, your comment completely misses the point.

That is why, in 1989, they planned a $5.6 billion takedown and rebuild, it was
tanked.

The witness came to me...and we are protecting them.

The building had the structural equivalent of osteoporosis.

I am about to fund $25-50 million to THE LAWSUIT - United States Citizens v
United States Government. Something major happened over the past several days.

Karl

Hutzpa wszechczasow - Kij ma dwa konce ,...

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'Ground Zero' Clean-Up , Workers Get Ill, Sue
=========================================================

Three years after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks destroyed the World
Trade Center, more than 800 workers who cleaned up the debris are sick--and
suing.

In a class action suit filed Sept. 10 in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, the
workers said the owner of the WTC and the four contractors who supervised the
cleanup at "Ground Zero" knew the workers were exposed to hazards--and didn't
protect them.

Those 800 workers may be just the tip of an iceberg of workers--many of them
union workers--exposed to asbestos, toxic fumes, poisonous combinations of
gases and hazardous liquids in either the cleanup of "The Pile" or in disposing
of the WTC debris at a landfill on Staten Island.

A recent federal report calculated that 40,000 workers toiled at the two sites,
and that 250,000-400,000 lower Manhattan residents were exposed to the danger.
It added that many ailments from that exposure will not appear for years.

The Ironworkers, Laborers, Sheet Metal Workers, Operating Engineers and other
building trades workers face the same ailments that the Fire Fighters suffered
from cleaning up The Pile after the attacks. But there is no victims
compensation fund for the building trades workers and others in the cleanup.

There is a fund for families of WTC victims, but it's not open for claims any
more--and restricted who was eligible.

The suit cites a federal Government Accountability Office report released the
week before and other evidence. That study says "screenings among other
responders--carpenters, cleanup workers, heavy equipment operators,
Ironworkers, mechanics, telecom technicians and truck drivers--have found
respiratory health effects similar to those seen in FDNY Fire Fighters."

Besides the families of Fire Fighters and unionized police who lost loved ones
in the terrorist attacks, the victims' fund was open "only to those rescue
workers who were injured in the first 12 hours" working at "Ground Zero" and to
those "non-rescue workers injured in the first 96 hours," court papers say.

That means the other workers who are now suing, and who became ill later, were
left out in the cold, their lawyers say.

The workers who toiled for months at The Pile and in the landfill, sifting
through the millions of tons of debris from the Twin Towers, now suffer asthma,
sinusitis, constant coughing--what the Fire Fighters call "the WTC Cough"--
constant nasal congestion, chest tightness, wheezing, shortness of breath and
other ailments, the suit says.

And that doesn't count future illnesses, including cancer, that may develop due
to exposure to the toxins, it adds.

"The tragic reality is that so many of the brave heroes who worked so
tirelessly and unselfishly" at "The Pile" are now "becoming a second wave of
casualties of this horrific attack," said their attorney, David Worby.

Not only did the contractors and the WTC owners fail to protect them, but the
city also rushed to assure people that lower Manhattan was safe, when it was
not, Worby added.

The Environmental Protection Agency's inspector general reported earlier that
his agency, at Bush White House orders, prematurely declared the air in the WTC
area safe to breathe without respirators or other protection.

The workers point to other evidence showing the WTC and the contractors broke
labor law by exposing them to the hazards.

Their evidence includes 39-year-old police detective John Woloctt, previously
in perfect health, forced to retire on a disability pension almost three years
after working at the landfill. He suffers from a rare terminal cancer, acute
myelogenous leukemia, which his doctors say comes from "exposure to...chemicals
and radiation primarily found in airline fuel."

The use of airliners to destroy the WTC spewed airline fuel among the smoke and
flames from the collapsing buildings.

Some 380 Fire Fighters who worked at The Pile--seeking first to rescue and then
recover the remains of their 344 dead comrades--have since been forced to
retire on disability. Three were diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

The GAO report, released in early September, adds tens of thousands of people
were "exposed to a mixture of smoke, dust, debris and various chemicals" when
the Twin Towers collapsed.

It also said monitoring programs for those who become ill are funded only
through 2009. But "some long term effects, such as lung cancer, may not appear
until several decades after a person has been exposed to a harmful agent" from
work, it adds.

"The WTC responders not only experienced the traumatic event in person, but
were exposed to a complex mixture of potentially toxic contaminants in the air
and on the ground, such as pulverized concrete, fibrous glass, particulate
matter and asbestos," GAO officials testified.

GAO said 7,250 injured people went to emergency rooms in New York City and
nearby New Jersey in the two weeks after the attacks due to injuries suffered
at the WTC, not counting those treated at on-site triage centers or those
treated elsewhere.

Most of them suffered musculoskeletal injuries--fractures, sprains and crush
injuries--burns, eye disorders, and inhalation injuries from fumes, GAO added.

And 90 percent of the 10,116 New York Fire Fighters who eventually worked at
The Pile "reported an acute cough," GAO noted. Many of the 332 with "WTC cough"
were forced to take at least four weeks' medical leave and "more than half
showed only partial improvement" in their conditions, weeks later.

"In addition, FDNY reports that one firefighter who worked 16-hour days for 13
days and did not use respiratory protection during the first 7-10 days was
diagnosed with a rare form of pneumonia that results from high dust exposure,"
GAO said.

In suing the WTC's owner and the contractors, the rescue workers cited the GAO
testimony of a few days before.

The rescue workers sued on the last day possible under the statute of
limitations. WTC's owner tried to get that case, and another one filed by
several police officers exposed to the toxic fumes, to stay in federal court.

But a U.S. District Court judge said WTC did not prove it was acting under
federal orders in denying protective gear to the workers. He sent the case back
to state court, but let the WTC owner appeal the ruling to a higher federal
court. Where the case will ultimately end up in the court system is unclear.

What is clear, Worby says on the workers' behalf, is that "proper respiratory
gear would have allowed the workers to block out smoldering fires, dust, diesel
exhaust, pulverized cement, glass fibers, asbestos and other chemicals in order
to prevent developing throat and lung diseases."

As a result of directions from site cleanup managers, "Only about one in five
of the workers wore respirators while they worked at the site," he added.

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Chooj,to znaczy Dick ten co vice sie mianuje powinien juz dawno wpasc na pomysl
aby Arabie Saudyjska skarzyc za te odszkodowania bo ponoc bylo 17 terrorystow z
tamtad.
Dick tez musial do nory schodzic w pospiechu co tez spowodowalo zaklocenia w
jego arse zwieraczach i co za tym idzie portki ktore mial juz sie do wyrzucenia
nadaja.A kosztowaly nie lada 150 tys.dolcow.Same straty ten Dick ma od tego
czasu.

WYGRALI W SADZIE

[Gość: Czesiu Giwera]

A ilu zwyklych ludzi zawyza dla ubezpieczalni oswiadczenia o wartosci
skradzionych rzeczy ?
Wielu.
Tu jest duza suma, a miliony malych co roku kradna na duzo wiecej. Kradna, bo
ci poszli do sadu, nie kradli. Pojmiesz roznice, czy za maly mozdzek
skarlowacialy rasizmem juz masz?