'ch' again

07.01.09, 00:19
what about the words like 'loch' or 'broch' then?
    • Gość: Nevermind Re: 'ch' again IP: *.chello.pl 07.01.09, 03:33
      ? What about them?
      You mean how do we read them? The first one "Lok" as far as i'm concerned. I
      don't know the second one.

      cheers
      • ann_a30 Re: 'ch' again 07.01.09, 10:46
        I've heard it pronounced differently.
        • Gość: Nevermind Re: 'ch' again IP: *.chello.pl 07.01.09, 21:18
          Heh, and i heard a word "my" said in a various of ways, not to mention most of
          the words in english ;] That's obvious that you've heard different accent than i
          heard. And i don't understand the question, if you heard it pronounced, why do
          you how is it pronounced? ;]

          English has many accents...

          cheers
          • ann_a30 Re: 'ch' again 07.01.09, 23:28
            Well, I've been living long enough in the UK to notice different accents in
            different parts of the country or even cities and towns.
            But I don't think it's just another accent. It is a sound that doesn't exist in
            'proper' English (or I haven't come across with). But now I can hear it every
            day and the words 'broch' and 'loch' are written on the signposts. So atually it
            exists in English but it's Scottish English.
            My question is: how should I pronounced this sound without imitating Scottish
            accent? How would you, Jonathan, pronounce it? Would you mix your English accent
            with some Scottish prenunciation?
    • jeanie_mccake Re: 'ch' again 09.01.09, 14:28
      The 'ch' in 'loch' is pronounced the same as in other Scots words
      like dreich, wheech and keech.
      English folk are actually much worse at pronouncing Scottish place
      names (Auchtermuchty, Lochwinnoch, Ayr) than Polish ones.
      • jonathan.oakley Re: 'ch' again 09.01.09, 20:20
        Yes..standard English pronounced in the local dialect can be
        confusing..the Scottish language does have its own words ("loch"
        being one of them) with Germanic and Scandinavian roots...the "ch" I
        would pronounce as an aspirated "k" as in the German "ach". I have
        problems understanding some Scots when they start to speak...but
        thats all part of the fun!
        • ann_a30 Re: 'ch' again 10.01.09, 17:57
          Thank you. Yes, it's fun... Especially when you have to ask them to repeat what
          they were saying. At lest twice...
          And the Shetlanders have such a horrible accent that you woder if they speak
          English at all...
          • jonathan.oakley Re: 'ch' again 10.01.09, 21:00
            and sometimes you wonder if they're just being obtuse...
          • Gość: Oliver Fist Re: 'ch' again IP: *.chello.pl 11.01.09, 14:46
            Yes, it would be easier if everyone spoke with a Polish accent...
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