DVD

IP: *.solutions.net.pl 17.03.03, 21:52
Może już był taki temat, ale mam prośbę. Chcę sobie kupić niedrogie dvd na
którym też chcę słuchać muzyki. Słuszałem jednak że sporo odtwarzaczy nie
chce czytać płyt z muzyką kopiowaną na nagrywarce komputerowej. Jak jest
naprawdę?
    • Gość: maro Re: DVD IP: *.bogucicka7.com.pl 18.03.03, 08:34
      Gość portalu: Diego napisał(a):

      > Może już był taki temat, ale mam prośbę. Chcę sobie
      kupić niedrogie dvd na
      > którym też chcę słuchać muzyki. Słuszałem jednak że
      sporo odtwarzaczy nie
      > chce czytać płyt z muzyką kopiowaną na nagrywarce
      komputerowej. Jak jest
      > naprawdę?

      Tak właśnie jest naprawdę, chociaż w chwili obecnej
      większość urządzeń dostępnych na rynku czyta kopiowane
      płyty audio (CD-R i CD-RW). Najlepiej przed zakupem
      spojrzeć w papiery urządzenia i znaleźć informacje o
      czytanych formatach. Jeszcze lepiej sprawdzić. Nie radzę
      natomiast polegać jedynie na opinii sprzedawcy.
    • Gość: pk Re: DVD IP: 212.87.16.* 18.03.03, 12:15
      Na temat sluchania muzyki z odtwarzacza DVD poczytaj tu:

      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=518&w=3823357
      • Gość: Diego Re: DVD IP: *.solutions.net.pl 20.03.03, 23:33
        Ok dzięki, teraz to jestem w kropce, nie mam wyczulonego aż tak słuchu, ale
        jeżeli różnice są tak duże jak niektórzy piszą to chyba kupię sobie jednak
        odtwarzacz CD.
        • Gość: polonus moja recenzja - something to think about IP: 198.138.227.* 26.03.03, 22:50
          DVP 9000ES to najwyzszy model DVD SONY z konca 2002 (nowy 1500$):

          (recenzje pisalem pod katem zamieszczenie na listach dyskusyjnych w USA dlatego
          po angielsku) mam nadzieje ze nie jest to problem :)

          Product Model Year:
          2002

          Summary:
          I have bought SONY 9000ES after reading > 200 rave reviews on audioreview.com.
          According to them it was cheap way to have great SACD player (supposedly 80%
          quality of SONY 777ES). It was suppose to better as SACD player nearly
          everything maybe with exception of high end players, even as CD player was
          supposed to better player up to $1800. So how could I not buy this. Especially,
          that you can have great deal for $750 second hand.
          So I have bought it. It really look great, built like tank, nice acryl plate,
          big blue diode, looks like very expensive piece with comparison to my old
          plastic CD player Arcam Alpha bought in London in 1996 for 300GBP. So because I
          have wanted to be shutter by it quality (I have bought new one) I burn it for
          400h with Sony SACD sampler before listening to it.
          I could not wait but I wanted be blown away and according to reviewers it
          needed 300h to shine.
          In the meantime i have bought hybrid CD from Chesky Records (I wanted to test
          it with high quality software). As a CD it was recorder very good, as SACD I do
          not have any experience to assess it but because it was from CR I have assumed
          it was at least good.
          Knowing that as CD player SONY is supposed to better $1800 CD player I was sure
          that as SACD player it will crush my old Arcam CD 16/44.1 playing without any
          re/up-sampler. And this is why I have bought it and this was what I was
          expecting to hear!
          Used equipment :
          Musical Fidelity A300, Thiel 3.6, speaker cable AQ Midnight III, inter cable TA
          Super. So I was about to hear new 24/192-technology vs. old audiophile design
          from 1996 in old technology. I could not been happier.

          My listening sessions disclosed that SONY move music layers back simultaneously
          flattening distances between them. Arcam was presenting first layer on the line
          between speakers. I had impression of better scene blackness in SONY (on the
          perception level though), I had impression that SONY is less tiresome too, but
          I have perceived timbre of Arcam as much more harmonically rich. Bass in both
          was equal maybe a little lover in SONY but less tight. Definitely worse went
          women voices in SACD, they were more edgy and dull in comparison to Arcam of
          course.
          The more I have listen the less I have been convinced that SACD was at all
          better then old boy. How this could be, Am I deaf? I have really started to
          worry.
          So I made manly decision to use my wife in blind tests (it latter appeared to
          be mistake). She is not audiophile but have good ear for music. A few years
          earlier she was able faultlessly to pick out 11 of 12 in interconnects blind
          tests when cable A was playing and when cable B was.

          So I have done five triple tests (both player was connected in turns to MF A300
          with TA Super).

          Test1 (track no 1 from Chesky hybrid sampler)
          A B A
          A - Sony was paying SACD layer
          B - Arcam CD layer
          Test2 (track no 4 from Chesky hybrid sampler)
          A B A
          A - Sony was paying SACD layer
          B - Arcam CD layer
          Test3 (track no 6 from Chesky hybrid sampler)
          A B A
          B - Sony was paying SACD layer
          A - Arcam CD layer
          Test4 (track no 7 from Chesky hybrid sampler)
          A B A
          B - Sony was paying SACD layer
          A - Arcam CD layer
          Test5 (track no 10 from Chesky hybrid sampler)
          A B A
          A - Sony was paying SACD layer
          B - Arcam CD layer

          She was supposed to write remarks and in every test appoint winner (A or B).
          A and B was a different payer in different tests to make tests more reliable
          and difficult to forge.
          Her remarks: player x had better scene, less tiresome highs, more tight bass,
          plus far better woman voice in test 5. Rebecca Pigeon Spanish Harlem, according
          to her player y presented voices as outlines hollow inside (edgy :) ), player x
          played music imbedded with color.
          S better player x was in following tests:
          Test 1): B
          Test 2): B
          Test 3): A
          Test 4): A
          Test 5): B
          So it was faultlessly Arcam in each and every test.

          Strengths:
          built, nice look, and a lot people believing that it is something really great,
          so it would be easy to sell :)

          Weaknesses:
          I was in shock SONY as CD player was supposed to put into shame CD player
          costing $1800, but according to my not aware of her blasphemy wife lost as SACD
          player to 6-7 years old British technology.

          I have personally was not so much convinced that SONY is so much worse but to
          be honest I have heard it was poorer harmonically (we have agreed here) and its
          presentation was laid back. She heard that instruments presented by Arcam was
          more separated, I hear differently (or maybe I wanted to hear it so much?)
          Maybe it was why Sony was edgier and brighter so I have impression of better
          separation. But definitely it was not better, and it was not upgrade. So be
          careful and not buy equipment base on even > 200 rave reviews.

          Similar Products Used:
          none, I'm giving it 4 stars as overall rating because it is DVD/SACD/CD player
          and maybe it is really good as DVD player (benefit of doubt), 3 start as value
          because as SACD player is miserable.

          przypis:
          to bylo porownanie SACD z CD, prownianie warstwy CD SONY z CD Arcam wypada juz
          po prostu naprawde blado ale nie tragicznie jak w przypadku modeli po 200-300$.
        • Gość: corran1 Re: DVD IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 21.04.03, 23:32
          Hm generalnie to możesz spróbować ale mówie że różnica przy leprzym dvd tez
          jest jak kupisz siano dvd i bedziesz chciał słuchac na nim audio to nie
          polecam bo nawet sredniej jakości odtwarzacze cie zakasują.
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