there won't be something called Qatar

[njusacz]

Co tutaj tak cicho kiedy dzieją się podobno takie rzeczy:
njusacz.blogspot.com/2012/02/kon-trojanski-w.html
W skrócie chodzi o jawną groźbę rzuconą przez JE Ambasadora FR przy ONZ do Premiera Kataru na sugestię aby Rosja nie sprzeciwiała się rezolucji przeciwko Syrii bo "straci kraje arabskie".

W naszej TV cicho sza! W mediach anglojęzycznych także jakoś nie-za-głośno. Może tutaj porozmawiamy.

Przyznam, ze baaaardzo ciekawe.

[aniaandwine]

Musze sama jednak sprawdzic. Jednego wszak jestem pewna no 100% .... arogancji Rosji.

[barracuda65]

mercurius.myslpolska.pl/2012/02/festiwal-hipokryzji-made-in-usa/

dzis wersja 2.0

[njusacz]

njusacz.blogspot.com/2012/02/kon-trojanski-w_09.html
sprawa jest bardzo niejasna! mogła to być próba antyrosyjskiej prowokacji wśród krajów arabskich. kto wie.

[barracuda65]

A small digression into the history of Qatar and its economic development, has made the emirate the owner of hundreds of billions of dollars in just a few years (back in 2001, Qatar had a foreign debt), allows us to understand many things in politics emirate. In particular, reveal the "mystery" of why the reactionary and conservative Wahhabi regime, an absolute monarchy, where there are no rights and freedoms, not the party and parliament, women wear the hijab, and are not free to marry a foreigner, without losing all their rights, suddenly became almost the vanguard of Arab "revolutions." And despite the fact that monarchy and democracy are diametrically opposed concepts.

So, what could be the basis for revolutionary Qatar and in his quest to "democratize" the Arab world? The answer is simple - nothing but the old Wahhabi radicalism and "sin" - the support of Islamist terrorism.

Qatar is not a republic with a multiparty system and parliament, elected in the general election. Qatar - an absolute monarchy.

[barracuda65]

A separate issue - human rights. Qataris have any, if he is loyal to the Emir and the political system. If not - it is better to leave the country because Opposition in the emirate are not. So was forced to do even a part of Al-Thani clan disagreed with the coup in 1995. Foreigners have no right, at any time they may be deported. Especially hard Asians and Arabs among the simplest of labor, who live in Qatar, almost as slaves. They were set tight control. As a rule, they are concentrated in a sort of ghetto in the old part of Doha, according to several people in the room. In decent areas of the city streets can not see them all the time except for working hours they spend in the aforementioned ghetto. Over the maids and servants, many Qataris bullied. Women could be raped, and the court will always side with Qataris. In the event of an accident is to blame is always a foreigner, even if it is a diplomat. From Saudi Arabia's lives in Qatar, the only difference between a casual dress of foreigners (but in certain "limits") and granted women the opportunity to drive and work. It works, though a small part of local residents, so the Qatari children are taught and treated with an Egyptian, Lebanese, a Palestinian, Jordanka, a native of Iraq. Marry non-Muslim citizen of Qatar has no right. For a Muslim, a foreigner can get, but with the permission of Ministry of Interior, and the loss of rights of Qatari citizen child, born of the marriage. Qatar to get citizenship is almost impossible, even to the Arabs, faithfully served this country for 30-40 years. A foreign woman who marries a Qataris should accept Islam. In the event of divorce, children remain with her father - Qataris.

[olena.s]

No, jest troche wiecej roznic miedzy Katarem a Arabia Saudyjska.
Katar jest znacznie bardziej liberalny - mozna kupic alkohol (acz na licencje i w jednym sklepie oraz na miejscu w niektorych hotelach), nie ma zakazu socjalnej interakcji mesko-damskiej, nie ma przepisu o koniecznosci towarzyszenia kobiecie przez meskiego opiekuna, jest kilka kosciolow chrzescijanskich, jest szejka Moza, pelniaca role wieksza, niz typowa pierwsza dama i ledwo przyslaniajaca wlosy, policja obyczajowa - o ile jest - jest znacznie bardziej dyskretna. Kobieta poslubiajaca Katarczyka nie musi przyjmowac islamu (to zreszta wynika z Szarii a glebiej patrzac imho z niklej pozycji kobiety w swiecie muzulmanskim). Mieszkajac tu od pieciu lat (nie, nie jestem zona Katarczyka) moze ze trzy razy widzialam kogos modlacego sie na wolnym powietrzu bo akurat azan zastal go na spacerze czy w knajpie. Nie ma scislej segregacji plci, sa np. koedukacyjne szkoly, acz znaczna wiekszosc, zwlaszcza szkol podstawowych jest separowana - jednak to od rodzicow zalezy, dokad posla dziecko, panstwo tego nie narzuca, podobnie zreszta jak np. tego, czy dana lokalna babka zaslania wlosy (prawie wszystkie zaslaniaja) czy twarz (na moje oko mniej wiecej 50:50).
Prawa czlowieka to dlugi temat, na pewno w stosunku do pojec euroatlantyckich czy judeochrzescijanskich jest tu calkiem inaczej i niewatpliwie prawa w naszym regionie sa znacznie szersze. Rownosc w zasadzie nie wystepuje - kobieta nie moze byc rowna mezczyznie, kafir, czyli niewierny - muzulmaninowi i tak dalej, i tak dalej, cala skomplikowana stratosfera spoleczna mocno podbudowana Koranem, a w praktyce takze przynaleznoscia klanowa, majatkiem itp. Jednak jeszcze 40 lat temu w Katarze istnieli niewolnicy ( o ile wiem zostali naturalizowani), wiec obserwujac ten kraj nalezy miec w pamieci, ze wszelkie zmiany tu sa bardzo swiezej daty.
Pracownicy zagraniczni w Doha nie sa stloczeni w gettcie, acz faktycznie separuje sie tu w duzej mierze tzw. kawalerow (czyli mezczyzn na kontraktach bezrodzinnych) od tzw. rodzin. Jednak separacja ta jest przede wszystkim mieszkaniowa. W miescie kawalerowie sa dykretnie odpychani od centrow handlowych (poza hinduskimi super i hipermarketami). Natomiast spokojnie poruszaja sie po czesci centrum w okolicy zlotego suku, filipinskiego suku, indyjskiego suku. Skoszarowani sa (tu osoba/firma zatrudniajaca czesto decyduje o tym, gdzie bedzie mieszkal zatrudniany) glownie w strefie przemyslowej na pd. od Doha.
Opozycja wobec emira jestr raczej bardziej wahhabicka niz liberalna, przynajmniej tak moge wnioskowac z niejasnych plotek, za ktore nie biore odpowiedzialnosci.
Nie wiem, czy w Katarze sa obywatele niemuzulmanie - ja takiego jeszcze na oczy nie widzialam.

[barracuda65]

The question of why Qatar has become the vanguard of the protest movements in the Middle East, at first glance does not have an answer. Perhaps because it is better to support the revolution from a neighbor, and not let it into your own home. Or is it an attempt to impose puritanical Wahhabi Islamic norms in other Arab countries? Or, as the case may, as a hypothesis, performing the will of the two great "brothers" - the Saudi and American?

[barracuda65]

"Muslim Brotherhood", which in the 80 - 90 years of the twentieth century were part of a radical extremist political Islam, is best suited for the role of allies, Wahhabi-Salafi Qatar, who inspired the Islamic world that they too are an essential part of Sunni Islam.

This is why Qatar has granted asylum to exiled from Egypt, the chairman of the World Council of Islamic scholars (ulama) and the main ideologue of the international movement of "The Brothers - Muslims," ​​Yousef al-Qaradawi. He was particularly influential when given access to the television channel "Al Jazeera" (before his appeals were published in the local press after Friday prayers), who began to broadcast from the territory of Qatar 10 years ago, which was originally claimed to become the Arab CNN, and in fact, ahead of CNN and the BBC and put together in their influence on the Arab street. Gathering under the roof of the satellite channel of radical Arab and Islamic world, spies and provocateurs, Islamists of all stripes and preachers of the revival of the Arab Caliphate, dwarf the emirate has a powerful voice of ideological influence on the masses of the Arab population in all countries of the Middle East and North Africa. Gradually the web "Al Jazeera" enveloped the entire Arab world, making Qatar the control center of the mood of the Arabs. This is a very handy a year ago, when the "Arab Spring". About the subversive role of "Al Jazeera" in this series of riots, rebellions and coups has written dozens of articles, so it makes no sense to deal with this topic in detail. Suffice it to say that without the "Al-Jazeera," quite possibly would not have happened revolutions, coups and more precisely in Egypt and Tunisia, civil war in Libya and not to revolt broke out in Syria. It would be naive to believe that the Qatari government is not being, and "Al Jazeera" is an objective independent television station. Ideological statement in this whole process gave and still gives Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawi, who is directly through the environment of the Emir said, where you pour "fuel to the fire", where you can "slow down". Few people paid attention to the fact that without the special lighting of the "Al Jazeera" was the Saudi invasion of Bahrain in the spring of 2011, Shia unrest in Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia and the performances of the intelligentsia in Riyadh and Jeddah in March-April 2011. Channel is not covered news about the coup attempt in Qatar in March 2011 and the assassination of the emir at the beginning of September 2011, even if the news were just rumors. On the very Qatar Qatari "Al Jazeera" studiously silent. But Egypt, Libya and Syria were broadcast on television in a minute mode, with many "pictures" scrolls several times a day. Sheikh al-Qaradawi Yu traced Broadcasting and rules emphasis to the air there was no deviation from the "general line" of Wahhabi-Salafist party, in alliance with a "Brotherhood - the Muslims." For many months, even with the Palestinians, the situation has lost its importance to the "Al-Jazeera," although in the development of the Palestinian issue was happening a lot.

[njusacz]

dziękuję za wszystkie wypowiedzi. niektórych spraw nie byłem świadomy.