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Gość: ZAJAC NAPASC NA IRAQ: TU NIE CHODZI O NAFTE GLUPCY...... IP: 207.44.132.* 09.11.04, 14:27 NAPASC NA IRAQ: TU NIE CHODZI O NAFTE GLUPCY The Iraqi War: It's not about the oil, stupid! by David Duke Broadcast Date 11-29-2002 www.davidduke.com/radio Representative David Duke at Al-Jazeera Satellite Network in Qatar I just returned from Bahrain and Qatar. In Qatar I appeared on one of the most- watched television satellite channels in the world, Al-Jazeera. An audience of 70 million saw and listened to me expose the Jewish supremacist traitors in the U.S. Government who have sold out America to Israel. In violation of the United States Constitution, the Jewish-dominated U.S. State Department actually protested my appearance and tried to suppress my freedom of speech as an American citizen. More on that a little later, but first, I want to turn to one of the big lies about the coming war on Iraq, that lie is that Big Oil interests, rather than the Zionists, are behind the planned war. The Zionists are masters at deception. Like the bait-and-switch sales tactics of American retail giants, some elements of the Jewish-dominated media in America have floated the idea that the coming war in Iraq is about oil. Sounding like a genuine dissident viewpoint, some patriots have unwittingly help spread this myth. One antiwar pundit adopted this theory and headlined, "It's about oil, stupid!" These claims were originated simply to deflect the blame for the war from Israel and its fifth column in America. The warmongers anxiously want this war NOT to appear to be the result of the Israeli Fifth Column trying to strike down Israel's enemies one by one. By floating the idea that the war is about oil, a resource vital to America and Europe, the suggestion is that somehow it is in America's and Europe's economic interest to invade Iraq. The implication is that the war will somehow allow us to grab the oil, and so it will be good for the economy and the common man. Of course, the idea that we will just grab the oil is simply preposterous. Whatever new regime is in charge of Iraq will sell the oil at normal world spot prices! A lot of good antiwar people have been deceived by this tactic, and are parroting the idea that it is big Oil that really behind this war. The Bush family ties to the oil industry are often cited in this scenario. And frankly, it is one thousand times easier in America to speak about conspiracies of the big bad Oil companies than to speak of the more open and more obvious Jewish conspiracies. Talk about big Oil conspiracies and some will call you wrong, but no one will accuse you of the great blasphemy of our age, the most evil of all heresies: so-called "anti-Semitism." But really, does big Oil or America have a strong economic motivation for this war? A few obvious facts coupled with plain, old-fashioned reason will show you that the war against Iraq holds no real advantage for big Oil, in fact it offers them much peril. As far as concerning American and European economic interests at large, the war in Iraq will have devastating consequences, to say nothing of causing anti-American political unrest and horrendous terrorism. Today, I will exam the economic consequences of the Iraqi war. The first question is "Do we have to go to war with Iraq to get its oil?" The answer is: "Of course we don't." We bought oil from Saddam Hussein before the Gulf War, and we can buy it now. If America, by this war, makes a regime change in Iraq, the American government is not simply going to pump the oil out of the ground and put the proceeds in our treasury. Those in political control in Iraq will still control the oil and still sell it to the world at the international prevailing spot oil prices. And let me make this very clear, Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. Giving Iraqi oil easier access to the world's markets will, after the flurry of wartime higher oil prices, eventually depress the price of oil. What does this mean to the big American and European oil companies who have the great bulk of their oil investments in the United States (such as in Texas, Louisiana and Alaska), in the North Sea, in Russia and in South America? Opening up the Iraqi market (and Iraq will need to sell huge quantities of oil after the war devastation) will ultimately mean, bottom line, depressed prices for oil reserves that Big Oil actually owns! The war will not help their profits but in the long run only hurt them. That is why Russia, a nation with large oil reserves but less Jewish influence, rightly opposes the war, knowing it will ultimately hurt their own oil business. So, in the final analysis, Big Oil has no long-term interest in the overthrow of Saddam. And it must be admitted that Big Oil has no strong interest in normalizing relations with Iraq either. For if America normalizes relations with the current Iraqi regime, the oil will flow freely, just as it would if sanctions lifted after a so-called regime change. Either way, regime change or normalized relations would not necessarily be good for the Big Oil companies. However, more oil on the market and resulting lower prices would be incredibly good for the American and European economy. Energy costs are one of the biggest expenses of our economy and civilization. Lower energy costs translate into lower prices, more money for wages, schools, and the other needs of society. If 30% of a company's expenses are energy related, and energy costs fall by a third, that company's revenues increase by 20 percent. That's more money for wages, and also somewhat lower prices that help everyone's standard of living. Imagine if we offered to end the war and sanctions against Saddam and normalize relations in exchange for special lower oil prices for the next decade. Obviously, Saddam would jump at that opportunity So, if Europe and America wants Iraqi oil and wants it at good prices, we can easily get it by ending sanctions against Iraq and returning to the quite cozy relationship we had before the Gulf War. And, if we demanded UN inspections and disarmament of BOTH Iraq and Israel for their weapons of mass destruction, suddenly the Israeli fifth column would quiet their demands against Iraq, because Israel is far more committed to their illegal weapons of mass destruction than is Iraq. Iraq has now ok'd inspections. I can't even imagine Israel ever doing that! On the other hand, a regime change would also certainly open up the oil pipelines, but after the change there would not be the motivation to negotiate as good an oil price as with the Saddam government. Iraq has a tremendous incentive to make a very good oil deal for us right now. Once the regime changes, the incentive is gone. Look at recent history. We certainly cannot and will not force a new regime to give us bargain prices for oil. As always, in normal times oil will be bought and sold on the international oil market. But now, of course, we a very special case, America has a lot of leverage to make a deal with Saddam Hussein: a deal he couldn't refuse! Contribute online at: www.whitecivilrights.com/donate.shtml Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Tysprowda Re: NAPASC NA IRAQ: TU NIE CHODZI O NAFTE GLUPCY. IP: 193.188.161.* 09.11.04, 14:50 Co prowda to prowda. Nie chodzi o nafte, ale o jej dwa razy wyzsze ceny. No i dwa razy wyzsze ceny wody wkrotce. Wody ktorej jest w Irakoriko skolko ugodno. Juz nie mowie o euro, ktorym Saddam handlowal za rope gdy ropa kosztowala polowe tego co teraz. Euro to bron masowego razenia dolara, co widac gdy 1.0 euro razi 1.3 masy dolara. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: igor Podobno nic bardziej nie cieszy niz glupota innych IP: *.detroit-19rh15rt.mi.dial-access.att.net 09.11.04, 14:50 Forum polskie zapewnia to codziennie jak rysunki Mleczki. Zadne wypowiedzi nie wnosza nic nowego ale najbardziej uderza fakt bezsilnosci krytykow USA. Nie ma bowiem ani jednej rozsadnej propozycji co mozna zrobic aby zmienic sytuacje na zgodna z ich pumktem widzenia. W kazdej, szczegolnie globalnej, polityce licza sie fakty. USA prowadzi swoja polityke, zgodna z interesami demokracji amerykanskiej. Polityke obrony swoich interesow prowadzi kazde panstwo i nikt nie powinien byc tym zdziwiony. Roznica polega tylko na tym ze Stany zostawily reszte bylych poteg w tyle i moga one tylko krzyczec o "imperializmie". Francja uprawia jednak swoj "imerializm" w Afryce, Rosja w Czeczeni itd. Roznica skali prowadzenia wlasnej polityki miedzynarodowej jest tylko roznica mozliwosci. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś