Gość: Andrzej IP: *.crowley.pl 14.02.04, 16:34 "Butterfly on the wheel"? Jesli w ogole cos znaczy. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
Gość: KBB Re: Coz znaczy idiom... IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 14.02.04, 17:43 It's a quote by Alexander Pope - "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" - meaning exaggeration: Writing in the 15th Century, Pope was witness to the hideous tortures méted out to all kinds of miscreants, breaking the villain's bones on a wheel with an iron bar being one of the more inventive. To break a delicate creature like a butterfly in such a brutal way as upon a wheel has come to be synonymous with applying superabundant effort in the accomplishment of a small matter. A modern, if far less gruesome, equivalent would be to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut. Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
republican IDIOM? 14.02.04, 18:37 Gość portalu: KBB napisał(a): > It's a quote by Alexander Pope - "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" - meaning > exaggeration: > Writing in the 15th Century, Pope was witness to the hideous tortures méted out > to all kinds of miscreants, breaking the villain's bones on a wheel with an iro > n > bar being one of the more inventive. To break a delicate creature like a > butterfly in such a brutal way as upon a wheel has come to be synonymous with > applying superabundant effort in the accomplishment of a small matter. A modern > , > if far less gruesome, equivalent would be to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut > . > > Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission. The expression above is NOT an idiom, vide: "Main Entry: id·i·om Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&m Function: noun Etymology: Middle French & Late Latin; Middle French idiome, from Late Latin idioma individual peculiarity of language, from Greek idiOmat-, idiOma, from idiousthai to appropriate, from idios" As in: keep one's chin up: remain brave and confident in a difficult situation; don't despair or worry too much. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: KBB Re: IDIOM? IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 14.02.04, 18:55 I didn't say that it's an idiom, I said that it's a quote. Quotes can still have meaning though. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
republican Re: IDIOM? 14.02.04, 22:06 Gość portalu: KBB napisał(a): > I didn't say that it's an idiom, I said that it's a quote. Quotes can still hav > e > meaning though. Well someone did, no offense intended. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: KBB Re: IDIOM? IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 15.02.04, 17:00 > Well someone did, no offense intended. None taken. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
spiral_architect Re: IDIOM? 16.02.04, 11:56 > The expression above is NOT an idiom, vide: > "Main Entry: id·i·om > Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&m > Function: noun > Etymology: Middle French & Late Latin; Middle French idiome, from Late Latin > idioma individual peculiarity of language, from Greek idiOmat-, idiOma, from > idiousthai to appropriate, from idios" > > As in: > keep one's chin up: remain brave and confident in a difficult situation; > don't despair or worry too much. > > Thank You as well ! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
spiral_architect Re: Coz znaczy idiom... 16.02.04, 10:25 > > Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission. That's where my question came from. But it's not the title of the album. It's title of the song only. This expression/quote appears also in "Soul Asylum"- song of band named The Cult. Astbury starts singing with "Who would break a butterfly on the wheel" Thank You very much for such a precise answer ! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś