Now that's really tough for the know-alls

[Gość: sisi]

What's the difference:

Dry-cleaning of garments
Dry-cleaning garments

[Gość: mgr Wypych]

Gość portalu: sisi napisał(a):

> What's the difference:
>
> Dry-cleaning of garments=suche pranie odziezy
> Dry-cleaning garments=odziez wymagajaca suchego prania? I'm a bit puzzled
>

[Gość: krecha]

The first "dry-cleaning" is a noun
The second is an adjective

Gość portalu: sisi napisał(a):

> What's the difference:
>
> Dry-cleaning of garments
> Dry-cleaning garments
>

[Gość: krecha]

no need to be sarcastic
:))

Dry Cleaners

[Gość: mishy]

never heard this one, honestly, but apparently
"dry cleaning of......." might signify the job is being done on the premisses
wherelse
"dry cleaning..." would mean, that the establishment can provide the
service but not necessarilly clean the garments themselves.
In either case totally irrelevant to the final outcome for the customer.
The shop front usually says Dry Cleaners (Pralnia Chemiczna ?)
That's my humble opinion. So....what are you diggin'?
Got sth yourself?
Come on...out with it!? ;-)

[Gość: Kingfish]

Gość portalu: sisi napisał(a):

> What's the difference:
>
> Dry-cleaning of garments
> Dry-cleaning garments


The first one signifies that garments are being cleanedb - no doubt about it.
The second one could indicate, as crazy as it may sound, that garments are
cleaning something and therefore technically this would not be a correct sign
for the business.


Example:
1.
Washing of people. (here you are washing people)

Or

Washing people. (here you are talking about people who wash).


The 2nd however, is just an abbreviation of the first one and as such, if
placed on the dry cleaning business , it would have the same meaning as “Dry-
cleaning of garments”

So I came the full circle.

[Gość: sisi]

Thank you all - had a little laugh :-))
To prevent misinterpretation, I was myself puzzled when I saw the two. The
first thing that popped into my mind was the dry-cleaning garments do the dry-
cleaning. That leads to one of the suggestions above: who does what?
As far as the grammar is concerned I think the one with OF lacks THE in front.
'The dry-cleaning of garments' would look much better to me, although it does
not make any point as long as it isn't completed (e.g. 'The dry-cleaning of
garments at that shop is far from satisfactory').
Noun/adjective is another issue.
Anyway, anyone who can quote or explain the rule is welcome to join ;-)

[Gość: Bert]

Next time sarcasm will get you nowhere.

Theoretically, cleaning can be a gerund or a present
participle. It seems you are dealing with a gerund.
The gerund is the bisexual verb-noun. Unlike a regular
noun, it can take a direct object. You may modified with
an adverb or an adjective. When with an adjective it
becomes more "nounish" than "verbish", when with an
adverb - more "verbish".

(The) frequent dry-cleaning of garments is my hobby.
Dry-cleaning garments frequently is my hobby.

Being bisexual, the gerund does not like to cooperate
with both sexes at the same time.

[Gość: sisi]

Why are there so many touchy people around this forum??
Is it a frustration outlet?
================================
as someone said, maybe in Poland you have to put a large-print notice when you
make a blatant joke.

[Gość: Wojtek]

"Being bisexual, the gerund does not like to cooperate with both sexes at the
same time."

Unlike a true bisexual, eh?
It would be called an orgy! Oohh, what an ejaculation, Bert!!! Top marks.

[kluba11]

Gość portalu: sisi napisał(a):

> What's the difference:
>
> Dry-cleaning of garments
> Dry-cleaning garments
>
First one describes the method of cleaning : dry cleaning
second : garnments that should only be dry-cleaned,
"This and that" was used for dry-clening of garments.(process)
This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in it.(contest)
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[maggie7]

kluba11 napisała:

> First one describes the method of cleaning : dry cleaning
> second : garnments that should only be dry-cleaned,
> "This and that" was used for dry-clening of garments.(process)
> This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in it.(contest)

no, no, no... you can't say: "This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in it."
dry-cleaned - yes
Right?

Bert gave the best explanation and examples so far.
:) Maggie7

[Gość: kluba1]

maggie7 napisała:

> kluba11 napisała:
>
> > First one describes the method of cleaning : dry cleaning
> > second : garnments that should only be dry-cleaned,
> > "This and that" was used for dry-clening of garments.(process)
> > This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in it.(contest)
>
> no, no, no... you can't say: "This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in
it."
> dry-cleaned - yes
> Right?
>
> Bert gave the best explanation and examples so far.
> :) Maggie7
Not really !! It is not important if the garments were already cleaned or not
and your version indicates that : dry-clened. Read again: This bag has
only "dry-cleaning" garnets in it.

[Gość: erwas]

Gość portalu: kluba1 napisał(a):
> and your version indicates that : dry-clened. Read again: This bag has
> only "dry-cleaning" garnets in it.

steady, Klub, steady.
you're not really quite in command of the subtle nuances of the English
language to be able to allow yourself such authrotative blastings as: READ
AGAIN!
how would you evaluate this: this bag has only "dry-clean" garnets in it.

how is this sentence superior or inferior to the sentence which you quoted?
BTW I just whack my garnets on a rock. first I wet them...

erwas

[Gość: Bert]

Gość portalu: kluba1 napisał(a):

> maggie7 napisała:
>
> > kluba11 napisała:
> >
> > > First one describes the method of cleaning : dry
cleaning
> > > second : garnments that should only be dry-cleaned,
> > > "This and that" was used for dry-clening of
garments.(process)
> > > This bag has only dry-cleaning garments in it.(contest)
> >
> > no, no, no... you can't say: "This bag has only
dry-cleaning garments in
> it."
> > dry-cleaned - yes
> > Right?
> >
> > Bert gave the best explanation and examples so far.
> > :) Maggie7
> Not really !! It is not important if the garments
were already cleaned or not

It is very important in this case.

> and your version indicates that : dry-clened. Read
again: This bag has
> only "dry-cleaning" garnets in it.

Neither a gerund nor a participle modifier of "garment"
would work here.

[beciab]

I would say, as someone else here, that
> Dry-cleaning of garments means some place, where you can have your garment
dry-cleaned. <Dry-cleaning of garments can be done here>

> Dry-cleaning garments - I suppose that such clothes can only be dry-cleaned,
not washed. <"We do not accept woolen clothes, only dry-cleaning garments">

I'm not sure whether it's ok. Those are only my speculations. Humble ones :)

[Gość: salmotrutta]

...just put the stuff into a washing machine...

[Gość: Bert]

Sisi spilled her morning coffee and blotted out "We are"
in "We are dry-cleaning garments" or "self" in
"self-dry-cleaning garments". These two would do the trick.
I am dead serious.
Sisi, was it the only spill? No more blots? Other accidents?

[Gość: sisi]

No accidents at all.
But got your point.