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08.09.07, 13:56
Canada will fall apart by 2020 unless immigration system changes

www.thestar.com/Canada2020/article/106702
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    • polonus5 Re: Toronto-Sao Paulo of the north 08.09.07, 14:12
      he,he,he Wybory,Wybory,Wybory
      • warcholski Re: trzynascie wiecej miast jak np. NYC 08.09.07, 14:16
        According to the report, about 1.6 million legal and illegal
        immigrants settle in the country and 350,000 people leave the United
        States each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. If
        immigration continues at current levels, the nation’s population
        will increase from 301 million today to 468 million in 2060
        • bambooko Canada - a nightmare come true! 08.09.07, 14:23
          CANADA - A NIGHTMARE COME TRUE!!
          By Ghulam Rasool

          Enough is enough! It's never too late to call it quits. Having realized this
          after 5 long years, I am going back to my country and for good. The ruling
          equation here is that while immigrants build Canada, Canada batters and shatters
          them! The very people who come here drawn by attractively designed websites or
          on the 'invitations' of immigration consultants' invitations, eager to build a
          new life while contributing to this country are destroyed and consumed by it!!
          What an irony!!

          Having moved around in this country for long, I have hardly come across recent
          skilled professional who is happy professionally, barring a very miniscule few,
          who have just ridden on their luck! Others have resorted to unethical means to
          get rich quick in. Skill, talent, knowledge, wisdom, hard work, honesty,
          discipline, loyalty etc., seem to have no place here! All that matters is how
          many dollars you can sponge out of the other, and how soon! This is the only
          measure of success. Rest is all lip service!

          I had brought with me as my money, a sum of just over $ 25000. When my wife
          came, we had sold off our property and managed another $ 35000. I had tried my
          level best to get a decent job and in the meanwhile, had lived on survival jobs.
          My earnings were so far, close to $ 122,000 in these five long years. That works
          out to 147,000 as money generated by me. Plus the 35000 $ which is $1,82,000 in
          5 years. From all this what do I have now? Just about $ 3,000 and an old car
          that would fetch me about $ 750 at best. Thus $ 3750 to pay for tickets! Go back
          to where I came from and start all over again! And with no money at all, a
          beggar in my own country from Day One!

          What does this mean? Even with the most frugal ways of living, spending on just
          the barest of bare minimum, one still cannot survive. A proper job is needed!
          And where is it?

          Let us analyze a few things. They say Canada needs technical personnel!

          What did I do here? I sent in over 10000 resumes, attended at least 8 different
          HRDC conducted programmes, each spanning over a few weeks, made about 50,000
          telephone calls for jobs, of which well over

          49,000 were just voice mails that never cared to return the call, made cold
          calls to over 3000 establishments, spent over half my time on the Internet, did
          over 30 different odd jobs to survive, volunteered my services for 4 months and
          applied to at least 10 Universities and Colleges for a course. For reasons known
          to many, all drew blanks! There is really no place and no way for new immigrants
          to settle here. All this country desires is to squeeze out the last cent an
          immigrant brings with him and then dump him!

          And Canada wants more skilled immigrants to come here!!

          It is said that there is a serious shortage of good teachers in Ontario / Canada.

          The lady in the family I share accommodation with has over 17 years of
          experience as a very renowned teacher.

          She had been told to do her entire teaching course all over again! Having passed
          TOEFL, etc. with over 95% marks, she has not been able to get into any
          University since the past two years, due to too many students wanting enrolment.
          In the meantime, she has been volunteering her services for a school. Good and
          Quality work for FREE! In return she is not even allowed to use the school bus,
          due to Insurance reasons! So she walks the 4.5 kilometers each way, come snow or
          rain! Already she has slipped and fallen many times, but it is her sincerity
          that makes her go. What if she meets with an accident? She will not be able to
          afford the expenses. Will the school reimburse even one dollar? If she dies, it
          will cost the family 5 or 10,000 dollars in funeral expenses!

          Family grieved and in debt, but country richer! Make money in every way is the
          country's policy. An immigrant cannot afford insurance so he cannot afford to
          die! This is a trap.

          But yet many of these exceptional teachers are not allowed to teach in Ontario
          or will not get any job however hard they try, because they are not certified!

          Why this certification? To ensure that they measure UP to the very high
          standards of Ontario Teachers! And what are these high standards?

          A Teacher's capability can be estimated by the qualities in the students! It is
          on record that 2 out of 3 students of the high schools in Ontario cannot even
          measure up to the basic reading and writing levels! Spelling and Grammar are
          considered unnecessary here! What is going to become of these poor students who
          after so many years of teaching by these high standard Ontario Teachers are not
          even able to read?

          One can see and observe the absolute lack of respect and manners by these
          students who have been taught by these High Standard Ontario certified teachers.
          They have no respect for elders, parents, lack decency in behaviour, use the f.
          word at least ten times in every sentence, talk rudely to everyone, and do all
          what is not expected of them!! They may be low in manners, but they are high on
          drugs, sexual knowledge, girlfriends and boyfriends, and many other activities
          that do not form part of any school curriculum! Growing academically, acquiring
          knowledge, returning to society what they can, has no meaning in their lives!

          Canada was rated as the number ONE country to live in not so long ago! It has
          fallen very low now. Law and order is supposed to be their strength! Yet, with
          all these top quality police force, there are shocking revelations on racism,
          brutality, and corruption. High tech systems can detect and track down a car
          parked at a mall for just 10 minutes over the scheduled time, but a child fast
          asleep at home, gets kidnapped and finally murdered goes completely baffles the
          experts.

          Canada is supposed offer free medical care. This is today in dire straits. A
          slight toothache for me resulted in an expense of $1880 as the dentist did
          everything that can be done to a tooth and relieved me of all this money. And,
          finally my tooth itself! And in many cases, one visit means the patient is roped
          in for life! And if he has insurance, then the dentist becomes a millionaire in
          no time! It's good to be insured! That's why Insurance is the biggest business here!

          If health care is free, how come eyes, teeth, and bones are not always covered?

          The legal system is supposed to be very good here. But here we have all types of
          lawyers guaranteeing that traffic tickets, penalties, etc. can be waived! Or
          else it is free! How is such a guarantee possible! And these services are
          advertised!

          There are thousands of Doctors with fantastic experience from other countries
          here in Canada picking up garbage, driving taxicabs and delivering pizza! Can
          they not be used better since there is a shortage of Doctors here? Are they
          worth NOTHING?

          Canada is supposed to be a place with no corruption! The scandals and scams that
          we hear about would make the most corrupt leaders elsewhere in the world blush!
          They may want to take a lesson or two!

          They say employment practices are fair and of a very high calibre here. Yet we
          see very large organizations - such as in Power Generation, National Airlines,
          and several others enveloped in the worst scandals in management and mishandling
          of public funds. Then they get declared as bankrupt! All tax payer's money. A
          very large Public owned corporation has a very high minimum wage, combined with
          a huge static workforce. It cannot even bear its own weight! Then they want to
          cut down work force. To do so, they offer several millions of dollars to their
          chosen top executives to accept as severance!

          A third or fourth string hockey player gets over a million-dollar salary! A
          Nuclear Engineer gets 6.85 dollars an hour for 30 hours a week (if he or she is
          lucky) to support a family! A PhD in Microbiology, who was head of an
          Institution doing Clinical Microbiology is a cashier at Food Basi
          • bambooko Re: Canada - a nightmare come true! 08.09.07, 14:24
            A third or fourth string hockey player gets over a million-dollar salary! A
            Nuclear Engineer gets 6.85 dollars an hour for 30 hours a week (if he or she is
            lucky) to support a family! A PhD in Microbiology, who was head of an
            Institution doing Clinical Microbiology is a cashier at Food Basics for the past
            two years! In spite of doing prescribed courses here, she still finds no takers!
            Not even interviews! And one reads in the papers that in Manitoba and elsewhere,
            Pig Farmers(!!!) are conducting laboratory trials and analysis, as there are no
            certified analysts! There is a shortage of such people. This proves that Canada
            regards a ranch raised Pig Farmer a better analyst than someone who had studied,
            personally analyzed for years and finally rose through the ranks to be a Head of
            an Institution with 20 years experience! Yet, Pig Farmers are accepted, Doctors
            rejected!! Reason: Pig Farmer Canadian, Doctor Not!

            All in all, this immigration business (racket) to Canada is only a very clever
            method to get skilled servants to work for free and pay for the people here who
            want to only enjoy life without doing anything!

            There are far too many people doing nothing but prefer to live as parasites.
            Canada wants these people to enjoy even more. And a skilled immigrant can slog
            and slave, but he will not be allowed to get into the system. The irony is that
            the very reasons that brought the candidate in, are the very reasons that will
            keep him out of work, as soon as he gets in!

            In fact the system here ensures that talent, hard work and skill, do not get
            rewarded. Many professionals are returning after a futile struggle and many do
            not want to come here anymore. These 'pleasant' experiences of professionals are
            being made known to the rest of the world! It will be a sad day when only pizza
            delivery boys and bar girls will populate this country. Will that be an advanced
            country then?

            Who will care for these skilled people and their plight here? Does anybody know
            what they are going through? The former Premier, Eves, just before relinquishing
            his office, declared that if the people vote for him again, then he would do
            something to solve this problem. Nobody believed him because he had done nothing
            while he was premier. And now we have another Premier saying the same thing. And
            so does the Prime Minister! Are these not gravely important issues? At least
            when compared to gay marriages, lesbian clubs, school buses, or marijuana laws?
            • chardonnay11 Re: Canada - a nightmare come true! 08.09.07, 14:36
              Jak zykle bambooko udowodniles ze jestes zwyklmym niepismiennym
              idiota.Moze jestes bratem kagana? Artykul w The Star jest o Toronto
              i co sie stanie jak sie nie zmienie polityka imigracyjana w ciagu 13
              lat.Nic tam o Kanadzie nie pisze kretynie.Wiekszosc emigrantow
              laduje w T.O.Jak na razie T.O jest w piatce najlepszych do zycia
              miat na swiecie.Wiem ze to ciebie strasznie boli.Boli prawda?
              Siedzisz na welfare? Czy moze nadajesz z Lomzy?
              • bambooko Re: Canada - a nightmare come true! 08.09.07, 14:50
                TOP 8 REASONS NOT TO EMMIGRATE TO CANADA

                8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
                Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your education,
                qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough for immigration, but
                in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job in your field. Amazing, how the
                credentials that qualify you to come to Canada are the same credentials that
                don't qualify you for your profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only
                wants immigrants to do the labor jobs - pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory
                work etc.

                7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
                From rent, to utility bills, to shopping, to phone, internet and cable bills, to
                gas, to car insurance, to eating out, to basically anything you have to pay for
                or buy, the cost of living in Canada has become astronomical. Recent immigrants
                are astonished as to how expensive everything is. It is estimated that compared
                to most countries around the world, the cost of living in Canada is on average
                five times greater.

                6. Health Care Crisis.
                Practicing physicians in Canada are in a shortage, 1 in 4 Canadians cannot get a
                family doctor. Canadian doctors are leaving to move permanently to the United
                States. Statistics Canada and the Canadian Medical Association both have
                identified that for every 1 American doctor that moves to Canada, 19 (nineteen)
                Canadian doctors move to the United States! Doctors in Canada are overworked and
                underpaid, and there is a cap on their salaries.

                5. Very High Taxes.
                Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you
                purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay
                a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the
                government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare
                bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada.

                4. Money Hungry Government.
                Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this picture
                that Canada is Utopia, because they want them to come to Canada. Why? Because
                foreigners bring money! So after being deceived, these foreigners come. They
                must bring with them at least $10,000. Canada has an immigration quota of
                250,000 per year. So please do the math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each
                equals a whopping 2.5 Billion dollars that Canada gains from immigrants every year.

                3. No Culture.
                Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually
                American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some
                'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national
                identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing
                really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves with the country they
                'originally' came from.

                2. Worst Weather.
                Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world.
                Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie
                provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the
                weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply
                because of this reason alone.

                1. No Jobs.
                Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's,
                PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering
                pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from
                Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy
                associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are
                stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and
                hopeless future.

                www.notcanada.com/pictures.htm
                • michnikadam bambooko nie przeginaj! 08.09.07, 14:54
                  w Sao Paulo nie jest tak zimno i sa o wiele piekniejsze dziewczyny setki tysiecy pieknych dziewczyn!!!
                  • za_morzem Re: bambooko nie przeginaj! 09.09.07, 07:58
                    hehe, good point!!!
                    kanadyjki to dopiero sa szprychy!!!
                    hehehehehehesmile))
                    w przerwie miedzy diet coke i burgerem z mc.
                • chardonnay11 Re: Canada - a nightmare come true! 08.09.07, 15:15
                  Nie chce mi sie na te twoje debilne posty odpowiadac.
                  Czyja jest ta strona www ? Kanadyjczyka czy takiego nieudacznika jak
                  ty ?
                  1.Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System- hahahah jak to
                  sie ma do twojego art powyzej w ktorym pisze ze CO ROKU do Toronto
                  przyjezdza 250 000 emigrantow? Dishonest my ass

                  2.Out Of Control Cost Of Living - LOL Tak sie sklada ze
                  Ultranowoczesne miseszkanie w T.O jest tansze niz w
                  Warszawie...hahahahha co za debile

                  3.Health Care Crisis - hm...jak to sie dzieje ze ja tego nie widze?
                  Czy jest system idealny kgdziekolwiek? Moze w Polsce? Tam trzeba
                  sammu robic operacje bo lekarze sa w UK albo strajkuja.

                  Very High Taxes 0- taaaa ...no to moze popatrz jak wykladaja taxy w
                  EU i potem porownamy ?

                  Najlepsze jest to:
                  Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly
                  qualified (MD's,PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving
                  taxi cabs hahhahahahahahahahha
                  Pan doc z Bangladeszu ktory leczyl kury i nie zna slowa po angielsku
                  chcialby prosto z lotnika lechac do szpitala i zostac
                  ordynaorem.Debilstwo.



                  No i ta perelka:
                  2. Worst Weather.Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any
                  country in the world.Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail,
                  winds, storms etc.
                  Domyslam sie ze ten pan pochodzi z panstwa Bambooko i mieszka w domu
                  na palach?

                  • piss.doff mniam 08.09.07, 15:58
                    Kazdy mysli ze jak w USA to wychodzac z samolotu czlowiek zostanie
                    obsypany deszczem zlotych monet z drzewa obok i wepchna go w
                    przydzialowy dom z tektury, mowiac: bierz Stasiu, nalezy ci sie. A
                    jak Kanada to go zaraz zamieni w sniegowego balwana na przystanku
                    podobnym do PKSu. Brazylia to juz musi byc makabra bo wiadomo, Sao
                    Paulo. Pozostale stany USA to tez kazdy wie z telewizji ze sa na
                    ograniczu nedzy, kataklizmu i normalnej pogody bez wody. Bo USA to
                    jest tak na oko rozmiarow wiekszej polskiej wsi, Kanada niewiele
                    wieksza- moze rozmiar powiatu a Brazylia to dobra zeby sobie wypic
                    rumu z koka kola-pod mostem w Pizdziejewie Wielkim.

                  • ratpole Niezly idiota to splodzil 08.09.07, 20:14
                    They may be low in manners, but they are high on drugs, sexual knowledge,
                    girlfriends and boyfriends, and many other activities that do not form part of
                    any school curriculum! Growing academically, acquiring knowledge, returning to
                    society what they can, has no meaning in their lives!
                  • za_morzem Re: Canada - a nightmare come true! 09.09.07, 08:04

                    No i ta perelka:
                    2. Worst Weather.Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any
                    country in the world.Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail,
                    winds, storms etc.
                    Domyslam sie ze ten pan pochodzi z panstwa Bambooko i mieszka w domu
                    na palach?

                    sam jestes perelka chardonney, jak wiadomo na calym swiecie kanada kojarzy sie z
                    zayebista pogoda.
                    szczegolnie ontario, winnipeg i alberta.
                    czys ty sie z chooyem na glowy zamienil ze takie bzdety piszesz?
                    smile)))

                    lekarz od kur w bangladeszu?
                    www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEsX8BS2gXk&mode=related&search=
                    ten lekarz, wiadomo bulbonczykowi nie podskoczy, kury leczyl w bangladeszu. smile)))
          • soup.nazi Hehe, jestem glodny i spragniony 08.09.07, 20:13
            swiatlosci plynacej od osobnikow pod tytulem Ghulam Rasool, Abdool
            Hooy Do Doopa, itp. podobnych tfurcow. Oraz przejety glebokim i
            klamanym zalem, ze opuszcza Kanade, hehehe. Lomza forever.
            • bambooko mysle ze wielu bialych mogli by pokazac 08.09.07, 20:51
              bo w Kanadzie kolorowi maja wieksze przebicie

              www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhSWoMK_3zo&NR=1
              • bambooko Re: mysle ze wielu bialych mogli by pokazac cz. II 08.09.07, 20:57
                www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lY_AP3uELI&mode=related&search=
    • waldek.usa Tak bambooko, opierasz sie na www.notcanada.com 08.09.07, 21:08
      Na wstepie widzimy:

      "...Here are a collection of pictures that accurately reflect the
      reality in Canada for immigrants and even for Canadian citizens!..."

      Autor, edytor i reszta producentow owej stronki popisali sie
      znajomoscia angielskiego.
      Nastepnym akcentem humorystycznym jest aplikacja do Budget Mart;
      dr Rajiv Suri jest niewatpliwie inteligentnym i roztropnym
      osobnikiem, gdyz starajac sie o prace w (super)markiecie tytuluje
      sie "Dr.", zas w czesci dotyczacej wyksztalcenia podaje swoje MD.
      Wlasnie takich specjalistow potrzeba do ukladania towaru na polce,
      zamiatania podlogi i, byc moze, obslugiwania kasy elektronicznej.
      High school jest automatycznie odrzucany.

      Salwa smiechu.
      To nie wszystko, niezwykle waznym jest bycie kardiologiem.
      W zasadzie jest to gwarancja otrzymania pracy w Budget Mart. Nigdy
      nie wiadomo kiedy klient na widok tylu recznikow (you know what I
      mean) pomysli, ze al-Qaeda robi zamach, i dostanie ataku serca.
      Tylko kardiolog moze uratowac, hehehe.

      Co yam jeszcze...aha, Burger Castle ostatnio zatrudnil Mei Yin w
      charakterze "Cashier". "MBA" na...nametag (jak po polsku?)
      gwarantuje, ze nasze finanse sa w fachowych rekach. Zakup
      commodities takich jak orange juice, coffee, czy pork bellies
      (surowiec do produkcji boczku) odbywa sie profesjonalnie, po
      najkorzystniejszych cenach i z gwarantowana satysfakcja, or your
      money back.
      Kolejna salwa smiechu.
      • undocumented.alien Re: Tak bambooko, opierasz sie na www.notcanada.c 09.09.07, 03:28
        Wysłał 10k CV, dzwonił na 50k numerów i nic ? Po przeczytaniu tego wylewnego
        żalu rozumiem tego niedoszłego Kanadyjczyka: Język. Pisany i mówiony. Jak ja nie
        cierpie Hindusów mówiących po angielsku. Apu, ten z the Simpsons mówi perfekt smile
        Te jego żałosne wylewy to...masło maślane, masa błędów gramatycznych,
        składniowych, myślowych. Czasami musiałem czytac 2 razy aby złapac sens. Takich
        "wykształconych" ludzi z krajów 3 świata to sa miliony na całym świecie. Jakiś
        czas temu w Szwecji jechalem taksówką, ktorej kierowcą byl jakis tam Kurd. Ile
        złego się nasłuchalem o okrutnych Szwedach. Jacy oni to rasiści, bo nie chcą mu
        uznać dyplomu lekarza z Turcji. Facet zaklinał się, że mowi płynnym angielskim,
        ale to marny płynny, może 300 słów naszpikowanych wieloma błędami. Kiedyś w
        którejś z TV europejskich oglądałem reportaż o imigrantach w Kanadzie. Jakis
        Irańczyk żalił się, ze ma papiery doktora, ale nikt nie chce mu tego uznać i juz
        ponad 5 lat pracuje w fabryce skarpetek pod Toronto. Prawie nie kontaktuje sie
        z rodziną w Iranie, bo wstydliwie ukrywa fakt, że nie ma pracy zgodnej z
        wykształceniem, a ojciec sprzedał ileś tam krów i owiec na szkołę dla syna...

        A niedawno w magazynie TIME skarżył się jakiś super wykształcony Arab czy
        Hindus, że skończył studia MBA w Londynie i nie może dostac pracy, bo pracodawcy
        chętniej biorą Polaków. Nawet już wyliczono, że przeciętny Polak ma 4 x większe
        szanse od kolorowego na lepszą pracę, tylko za kolor skóry i chrześcijańskie
        pochodzenie...
        • za_morzem hehehe... 09.09.07, 07:56
          taaaaa...

          facet studiowal w najlepszej szkole medycznej w uk (na swiecie?) i praktykowal
          tam x lat.
          www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEsX8BS2gXk&mode=related&search=
          na kanade jego angielski i kwalifikacje nie sa wystarczajace.
          bo do swiatla w doopie maja prawo tylko kanadyjscy lekarze.
          • polonus5 Re: za_morzem maja prawo tylko kanadyjscy lekarze 10.09.07, 23:50
            za_morzem napisał:
            na kanade jego angielski i kwalifikacje nie sa wystarczajace.
            bo do swiatla w doopie maja prawo tylko kanadyjscy lekarze

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            Najstarszym polonijnym towarzystwem było Stowarzyszenie Lekarzy
            Polskich w Montpellier, założone w 1847r. Polscy lekarze
            organizowali się w towarzystwa w USA (Chicago-1892, Buffalo-1910,
            Detroit-1912), Rosji (Petersburg-1901, Kijów-1907), Wielkiej
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            • za_morzem Re: za_morzem maja prawo tylko kanadyjscy lekarz 11.09.07, 00:49
              jakie miejsce w dyskusji o problemach lekarzy z zagranicy w dopuszczeniu do
              praktykowania w kanadzie maja polonijne stowarzyszenia lekarskie z
              dziewietnatego wieku?!?!?!?

              czys ty polonus zglupial do konca??!?!?!?!

              to co wkleiles pod moim wpisem to ma byc na niego odpowiedz?!?!?!
              piles cos czy co?



              polonus5 napisała:

              > za_morzem napisał:
              > na kanade jego angielski i kwalifikacje nie sa wystarczajace.
              > bo do swiatla w doopie maja prawo tylko kanadyjscy lekarze
              >
              > =====================================================================
              > jak zwykle piszesz bzdury !!!
              > naszym rodakom udalo w 19 krajach swiata( 20 tys lekarzy)
              > nostryfikować dyplom ...i zaczac prace w swoim zawodzie
              >
              > Polonijni i polscy lekarze w diasporze w XIX i XX wieku
              >
              >
              > Najstarszym polonijnym towarzystwem było Stowarzyszenie Lekarzy
              > Polskich w Montpellier, założone w 1847r. Polscy lekarze
              > organizowali się w towarzystwa w USA (Chicago-1892, Buffalo-1910,
              > Detroit-1912), Rosji (Petersburg-1901, Kijów-1907), Wielkiej
              > Brytanii (Londyn-1944).
              > W 2000r było 28 polonijnych towarzystw w: Austrii, Belgii, Francji,
              > Gruzji, Holandii, Kanadzie, Kazachstanie, Mołdawii, Niemczech,
              > Rosji, USA, Szwajcarii, Szwecji, Wielkiej Brytanii, Włoszech. Polscy
              > lekarze w krajach ościennych najwcześniej zorganizowali się w
              > Republice Czeskiej (Czeski Cieszyn-1975). Po 1989 r. w państwach za
              > wschodnią granicą powstało 11 towarzystw w: Białorusi, Litwie,
              > Ukrainie. W 2000 r. w 19 państwach funkcjonowało 40 towarzystw wśród
              > 13-20 tys. lekarzy na 14-17 mln. Polonii i Polaków poza krajem.
              > www.polmed.org/kongres2003/streszczenia/historia.htm
              • polonus5 Re: za_morzem Analfabetyzm wtórny. 11.09.07, 00:59
                za_morzem napisał:

                jakie miejsce w dyskusji o problemach lekarzy z zagranicy w
                dopuszczeniu do
                praktykowania w kanadzie maja polonijne stowarzyszenia lekarskie z
                dziewietnatego wieku?!?!?!?
                =====================================================================

                he,he,he z czytaniem u Ciebie cieniutko - juz 1892 w Chicago byli i
                sa polscy lekarze !!!!

                Analfabetyzm wtórny.
                Zdaniem pedagogów i socjologów w naszym kraju przybywa gwałtowanie
                osób, które nie rozumieją tekstów pisanych.
                mszczonow.info/aktualnosc-677.html=====================================================================

                > > Polonijni i polscy lekarze w diasporze w XIX i XX wieku
                > >
                > >
                > > Najstarszym polonijnym towarzystwem było Stowarzyszenie Lekarzy
                > > Polskich w Montpellier, założone w 1847r. Polscy lekarze
                > > organizowali się w towarzystwa w USA (Chicago-1892, Buffalo-
                1910,
                > > Detroit-1912), Rosji (Petersburg-1901, Kijów-1907), Wielkiej
                > > Brytanii (Londyn-1944).
                > > W 2000r było 28 polonijnych towarzystw w: Austrii, Belgii,
                Francji,
                > > Gruzji, Holandii, Kanadzie, Kazachstanie, Mołdawii, Niemczech,
                > > Rosji, USA, Szwajcarii, Szwecji, Wielkiej Brytanii, Włoszech.
                Polscy
                > > lekarze w krajach ościennych najwcześniej zorganizowali się w
                > > Republice Czeskiej (Czeski Cieszyn-1975). Po 1989 r. w państwach
                za
                > > wschodnią granicą powstało 11 towarzystw w: Białorusi, Litwie,
                > > Ukrainie. W 2000 r. w 19 państwach funkcjonowało 40 towarzystw
                wśród
                > > 13-20 tys. lekarzy na 14-17 mln. Polonii i Polaków poza krajem.
                > > www.polmed.org/kongres2003/streszczenia/historia.htma
      • piss.doff Re: Tak bambooko, opierasz sie na www.notcanada.c 09.09.07, 03:59
        "Co tam jeszcze...aha, Burger Castle ostatnio zatrudnil Mei Yin w
        charakterze "Cashier". "MBA" na...nametag (jak po polsku?)
        gwarantuje, ze nasze finanse sa w fachowych rekach. Zakup
        commodities takich jak orange juice, coffee, czy pork bellies
        (surowiec do produkcji boczku) odbywa sie profesjonalnie, po
        najkorzystniejszych cenach i z gwarantowana satysfakcja, or your
        money back"-
        • waldek.usa Nie moglem 10.09.07, 22:31
          piss.doff napisał:

          > "Co tam jeszcze...aha, Burger Castle ostatnio zatrudnil Mei Yin w
          > charakterze "Cashier". "MBA" na...nametag (jak po polsku?)
          > gwarantuje, ze nasze finanse sa w fachowych rekach. Zakup
          > commodities takich jak orange juice, coffee, czy pork bellies
          > (surowiec do produkcji boczku) odbywa sie profesjonalnie, po
          > najkorzystniejszych cenach i z gwarantowana satysfakcja, or your
          > money back"-
          • za_morzem jak jest powszechnie wiadomo. 11.09.07, 00:54
            www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEsX8BS2gXk&mode=related&search=
            ze problem jest powszechnie w kanadzie wiadomo.
            a ze bulbon mysli elastycznie jak kij od szczotki to mamy takich giertychow,
            kaczorow i polonusow5.
            bo to nie slonce swieci tylko swiatlo z doopy jego.
            wink)).
          • tato1 Re: Nie moglem 11.09.07, 01:05
            waldek.usa napisał:

            > piss.doff napisał:
            >
            > > "Co tam jeszcze...aha, Burger Castle ostatnio zatrudnil Mei Yin w
            > > charakterze "Cashier". "MBA" na...nametag (jak po polsku?)
            > > gwarantuje, ze nasze finanse sa w fachowych rekach. Zakup
            > > commodities takich jak orange juice, coffee, czy pork bellies
            > > (surowiec do produkcji boczku) odbywa sie profesjonalnie, po
            > > najkorzystniejszych cenach i z gwarantowana satysfakcja, or your
            > > money back"-

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