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CIEKAWA TEORIA O EPIZODZIE III

20.05.02, 19:58
Uwaga, to moze byc najwiekszym spoilerem Epizodu IIIgo :)
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autor: ferelwookie

I have seen this mentioned before and always thought the idea was POSSIBLE, yet
farfetched for Lucas to actually use in Episode III. But, recently I've been
trying to flesh out my theory that I believe will be the biggest spoiler of
Episode III.

I propose that Palpatine is not Sidious....that they are two separate people.
(Yes, I hear you groaning already, I'll try to put a new spin on WHY I think
this is possible.) Years before TPM, Darth Sidious went to Kamino and cloned
himself beginning his master plan that he sets into motion in Episode I. He
places Palpatine in the political sphere (on Naboo to be exact) while the Sith
Lord himself has his patsies invade the planet. Of course, Sidious is behind
EVERYTHING, but never reveals himself until the time is right.


Palpatine is a clone of Sidious, but he lacks force-powers. This is why Lucas
introduced the idea of midiclorins in Episode I. A person with a high
midiclorin count CAN be replicated, but the clone would not be force-sensitive,
therefore he would be a "normal" person. (This is why Jango is chosen for the
clone army in AOTC, and not a Jedi or force sensitive person. This would also
keep the concept of the force from being cheapened...in that you can clone a
person, but you can clone a persons in-tune-ness to the force...i.e. their
"spirit" if you will.)

Palpatine is the ONLY person that knows the extent of Sidious whole plan from
the beginning. Sidious uses patsies like the TF to cause calmatious events (and
if they/ really Sid succeed Sid wins) while Palpatine is at the other end
using the events to gain power for himself (but he's really just a front for
the dark lord). Either way, Sidious wins.


People here have often said that it is too obvious that Sid=Palps and I agree.
That is why is believe this clone theory. Sid had knowledge of the Kaminoians
as cloners long before Episode I. (Hell, even Dexter knows these guys are
cloners!) He went there, made a quick copy and later had his guy on the inside,
Dooku erase the planet from the Jedi library to cover his early tracks, and
some of what occurs in AOTC.


I've also heard that Palpatine MUST be Sidious and eventually becomes the
Emperor because we see his physical decay in Episode II. Yes, it appears as if
Palps hasn't aged well, but it's not from "overuse of the darkside" as some
have stated here. It's because he's a clone who has been aged at an accelerated
rate. By the time Episode III comes around, Palpatine has complete control of
the senate and Republic, and either dies of extreme "old" age or Sidious kill
him and takes his place as Emperor.


Darth Sidious played both sides of the war...creating it and using Palpatine to
appear that he was trying to fight it...in order to gain power from either
strategy. So, what I'm saying is the Emperor from the OT, that we all know and
hate in Darth Sidious, NOT Palpatine who is dead by the beginning of Episode
IV.


It is important to note that the novels and EU sources state that the Emperor
from Episodes IV-VI is named Emperor PALPATINE, but this name is NEVER spoken
by one character in the entire original trilogy. He is only referred to as the
Emperor. It is entirely possible that Lucas changed his mind from the
novelizations, created the clone theory, and decided that the Emperor was NOT
Palpatine, but the original Sith who cloned himself and named him Palpatine.


[Of course, since a clone IS an exact duplicate of the original person,
Palpatine DOES=Sidious...from a certain point of view.] This is how Lucas can
be quoted as saying how the two are the same person without having lied to us,
yet still tricking us. Palpatine is the same person as Sidious genetically, so
Lucas is right in saying they are the same person, from a certain point of
view.


I know people will trash this theory, but I believe it is entirely possible
that this revealation can occur in Episode III, and I feel that it would shock
people just as much as "I am your father." Plus, the PT NEEDS a
twist...because we already know what will happen to all the characters because
they survive to the OT (except Padme'...maybe). Throwing this bait-and-switch
theory on us would knock people out...they would never have expected it and it
would end the series on a shocking note.


People will say. Palps HAS to be Sid. They will say "just look at TPM".
Everything Sid is around, Palps is not. Everything Sid says to the TF is soon
mirrored by Palps in the Senate. That's the genius of Lucas' plan. He wants us
to accept the easiest explaination for now. Palps and Sid are kept out of the
same scenes and never seen communicating to raise the audience's suspisisions
that the two are the same. Palpatine mirrors what Sidious says later in the
Senate, because he is in league with him and is ordered to do so to make things
"legal" for the Sith Lord to ulitimatlely gain power.


Think about the heavy-handedness of TPM in how Lucas tries to drive home that
SID=PALPS. Especially at Qui-Gon's funeral, when Mace says "Which was
destroyed...the master or the apprentice?" and the camera pans right to
PALPATINE. It's too heavy-handed...he's making seem to easy to throw us off
course. DARTH SIDIOUS the Sith Lord controls everything from behind the scenes
until the time is right in Ep III, when he reveals himself and takes complete
control. Palpatine, his clone, is ulitmately another pawn (albeit, much more
involved than anyone else) in the Sith Lord's evil plan.


Sorry about the length of this...I just feel really strong about this and
wanted to included as much "evidence" as I could in the first post. I know
their are SOME folks out there who also believe Palps is a clone of Sid. I also
know a larger number probably think we're all insane. What do you think?
Personally, I don't think it's too far-fetched and is plausable and I'd love to
see this twist in Episode III.
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    • Gość: Pradera Re: CIEKAWA TEORIA O EPIZODZIE III IP: *.acn.pl / *.acn.waw.pl 20.05.02, 20:10
      Interesujące... ale czy nie przecenia trochę Lucasa?
    • mikolaj7 a moze nasza teoria o ep3? 20.05.02, 20:13
      dobra. tym razem przeczytalem calosc i dalej twierdze,ze
      to nie moze byc prawda, ze klon nie wlada moca. sam
      czytalem streszczenie ksiazki w ksiegarnii, gdzie bylo
      napisane, ze imperator mial kilkanascie swoich klonow,
      ktore go zastepowaly albo dublowaly.

      w innych aspektach ta wersja jest dosc realna, ale bylbym
      sklonny uznac ja za kolejna spiskowa teorie dziejow.

      moze napiszemy sami spojler ep3? dopracuje sie go,
      przelozy na angielski i rozpusci po interencie :D ale beda
      jaja :))))

      jakes propozycje?
      • Gość: annatar Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 13:57
        Mikolaju, przestan w koncu popierac swoje argumenty ksiazkami ze star Wars Expanded Universe; nie maja one nic wspólnego z ogólnym zamyslem G.Lucasa, ok? Napisz mi, gdzie w filmie powiedziane jest ze imperator mial jakies klony? A poza tym w jakim celu Lucas wprowadzil caly watek o midichlorianach? Najprawdopodobniej wlasnie zeby wykluczyc klonowanie jedi.
        • azubin Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? 21.05.02, 14:18
          ja wiem... to chyba raczej jest argument za klonowaniem Jedi (chyba, że z tymi
          mitochcośtam, nie wszystko pamiętam)- dopóki moc była związana z określoną
          jednostką, to jej klon nie musiał jej posiadać, ale kiedy to tylko element
          biologiczny.... nie widzę przeszkód
          • Gość: annatar Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 14:21
            Jak chcialbys sklonowac zupelnie obcy element biologiczny?!! Owszem, zyjacy w symbiozie, niemniej posiadajacy zupelnie odmienny kod genetyczny
            • Gość: Pradera Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? IP: *.acn.pl / *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 16:57
              Kod genetyczny w mitochondriach, na których wzorowane są zdaje się
              midichloriany (wszystko się zgadza oprócz Mocy) nie kopiuje się przy
              klonowaniu.
        • mikolaj7 Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? 21.05.02, 20:54
          Gość portalu: annatar napisał(a):

          > Mikolaju, przestan w koncu popierac swoje argumenty ksiazkami ze star Wars Expa
          > nded Universe; nie maja one nic wspólnego z ogólnym zamyslem G.Lucasa, ok?

          rany, nie denerwuj sie tak.

          jesli jest ksiazka to czemu mialbym nie przytoczyc jej
          zalozen? mozesz sie ze mna niezgadzac, ale wolalbym, zeby
          to byl jakas dyskusja, a nie lizytowanie ktore zrodlo
          informacji lepsze.
          • Gość: annatar Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 21:53
            :)) Tu nie chodzi o to, które zrodlo informacji jest wiarygodniejsze :) oczywiscie mozesz przywolywac rozne wydarzenia które mialy miejsce w ksiazkach; tylko nie uzywaj ich jako argumentów do dementowania ciekawych teorii a propos epizodu IIIgo.

            Pozdrawiam Cie serdecznie
            • mikolaj7 Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? 21.05.02, 23:36
              ale jakos trzeba bylo pokazac, ze to brednie. do jutra
              wymysle nowy argument, ze to sa glupoty, postaram sie nie
              sugerowac ksiazkami :)))
              • Gość: annatar Re: a moze nasza teoria o ep3? IP: *.acn.waw.pl 22.05.02, 10:02
                ok ;))
    • Gość: hmm Re: CIEKAWA TEORIA O EPIZODZIE III IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 09:16
      mhhhm
    • Gość: Yoda Re: CIEKAWA TEORIA O EPIZODZIE III IP: *.acn.waw.pl 21.05.02, 09:19
      Replies, I see cannot.
    • Gość: kuba Re: CIEKAWA TEORIA O EPIZODZIE III IP: 217.97.129.* 22.05.02, 09:47
      teoria jest super i kto wie czy rzeczywiscie Lucas czegos takiego nie
      planuje...
      Mimo wszystko byloby super bo wprowadziloby to powszechne zdumienie u
      wszystkich ktorzy juz od pierwszej czesci wszystko wiedza....
      Dwie uwagi do watkow wczesniej:
      Lucas i jego ekipa nie ukryuwaja ze maja gdzies wszystko to co pisze sie w
      ksiazkach o SW- w oficjalnej wypowiedzi stwierdzil nawet ze to sa apokryfy.
      Wydarzenia, opisy i tlumaczenia w ksiazkach nie powinny byc wiec brane jako
      material dowodowy.
      Sam problem klonowania moglby tak naprawde byc motywem do innego filmu ...
      W kazdym razie film niczego nie wyjasnia i tak chyba mialo byc. Jesli
      klonowanie stanie sie watkiem wiodacym to bedzie mozna myslec kto jest czyim
      klonem i ile jeszcze klonow danego bohatera trzeba by zlikwidowac. A przeciez
      to jest film o mocy...

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