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26.05.06, 13:07
Before a big massacre of the english football fans on the streets in Germany.
It is estimated 250 000 Polish patriotic fans will be in Germany to meet
and "welcome" them.
I can hardly wait.
REMEMBER YALTA - NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.
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      • nasza_maggie Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 14:09
        Yalta?
        Greetings?
        I don't think the Polish hools are THAT good at history...
        And I don't think a massacre will happen. If anything, the Brits will massacre
        themselves if they try to beat our fans at drinking vodkasmile)

        Honestly? For the real fans I think it will all be fantastic, and I'm really
        jelaous I didn't get a chance to get a ticket to any match. And I'm sure the
        germans are well prepared for it. And I wish I was in Berlin to see it all.
    • ianek70 Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 15:54
      marimax napisał:

      > Before a big massacre of the english football fans on the streets in Germany.
      > It is estimated 250 000 Polish patriotic fans will be in Germany to meet
      > and "welcome" them.
      > I can hardly wait.
      > REMEMBER YALTA - NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.

      I heard the Polish fans were planning to bore the English to death with
      historical lectures, anecdotes about the pope, moaning about how poor Poland is
      and asking them if they can say "chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie".
      • ejmarkow Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 16:09
        ianek70 napisał:
        >
        > I heard the Polish fans were planning to bore the English to death with
        > historical lectures, anecdotes about the pope, moaning about how poor Poland
        > is and asking them if they can say "chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie".

        The Scots can counter such contempt by consuming a bit of Fasolka po Britonsku,
        lifting their kilts, and then bending over. smile
        • ianek70 Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 17:21
          ejmarkow napisał:


          > The Scots can counter such contempt by consuming a bit of Fasolka po
          Britonsku,
          >
          > lifting their kilts, and then bending over. smile

          I think that was the plan, but we didn't qualify, so Scots fans will spend the
          tournament in front the telly drinking beer and looking for examples of biased
          pro-English refereeing decisions that they can complain about for the next four
          years smile
    • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 16:34
      marimax napisał:

      > Before a big massacre of the english football fans on the streets in Germany.
      > It is estimated 250 000 Polish patriotic fans will be in Germany to meet
      > and "welcome" them.
      > I can hardly wait.
      > REMEMBER YALTA - NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.

      I pity them if they cross our lads, I really do.

      Remember that the English fight for fun, and not just to steal money, which may
      be more what you are familiar with. If the Polish fans want to provoke conflict
      with UK fans, they will discover that it will not be sufficient to make penguin
      impersonations and drop rocks on cars off of bridges where no-one can get them
      back, they will actually have to become acquiainted with the steel of the
      British botherboy's toe cap, his finely honed knuckles, his teeth, and his well-
      practised and precision executed nut.
      • nasza_maggie Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 16:40
        I bet any of you boys IF anything happens it will all lok exactly like in
        Bridget Jones 2 with Darcy and Grant in the fountainsmile)))
        It always does.
        Blokes think they can fight like in the films, well, that's the only scene it
        ever looks likesmile))))))))))))))
        • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 16:54
          Believe you me, the soccer hooligans can fight a lot more convincingly than
          Hugh Grant and Colin Firth.

          It's not accountants and lawyers out there fighting, it's brickies and
          chippies.

          I saw a highly amusing scene in the Folk Gospoda shortly before Christmas.
          There was the Sheraton hotel employees' Christmas party, and they started a
          fight amongst themselves, and they were blotto, and it looked really pathetic.
          They fought like women - not a single bottle was broken and drawn across
          someone's face.

          Then the police arrived and questioned them for the rest of the evening. They
          were so pathetic they didn't even manage to run away from the pigs.

          I could have done better at the age of 15.
            • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 21:27
              nasza_maggie napisała:

              > what, just from hearing about football fights on the way to school?

              If you think you could get through a comprehensive school education without
              getting into scraps in seventies Britain, you are looking at our reality with
              rose tinted spectacles.

              I may not have gone to football, but that was not the only place you could get
              your head kicked in in my town.
        • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 21:23
          > >the steel of the British botherboy's toe cap, his finely honed knuckles, h
          > is
          > >teeth, and his well-practised and precision executed nut.
          >
          > I can just hear Beethoven's 9th...

          and you slooshy lovely music, just as bog gave, all dressed in the heighth of
          German fashion.
      • firemouse Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 21:29
        usenetposts napisał:

        >
        > I pity them if they cross our lads, I really do.

        I'm not so sure.

        I remember in 80s Lech Poznan playing with Liverpool, shortly after Heysel. The
        English hools were practically decimated when they faced Poznan fans.

        Whatever you have seen at hotel's employees party it's not representative. You
        can't imagine how the real ultras fight looks like.
        • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 22:53
          firemouse napisał:

          > usenetposts napisał:
          >
          > >
          > > I pity them if they cross our lads, I really do.
          >
          > I'm not so sure.
          >
          > I remember in 80s Lech Poznan playing with Liverpool, shortly after Heysel.
          The
          > English hools were practically decimated when they faced Poznan fans.
          >
          > Whatever you have seen at hotel's employees party it's not representative. You
          > can't imagine how the real ultras fight looks like.

          We will see.

          I don't expect the Polish fans will start any trouble, and if they do I don't
          think it will be against English people when so many Germans are there for the
          taking.
        • usenetposts Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 22:58
          news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4860986.stm
          They are not interested in trying the England fans. If they do, then there
          could be a very big backlash on the Polish people living in the UK.
          • nasza_maggie Re: Only few days left 27.05.06, 13:56
            have you heard of USTAWKI???


            If any REAL trouble starts, it will all be happening at those. Both sides, ANY
            sides take part in it because they want to and then thay have beer afterwards
            unless the police come along.

            btw. most fights are started by inderage 'fans' as they are least likely to be
            sentenced or caught for that matter. I can't see many of them going off
            abroad...

            btw2. a trip to Germany is quite expenisve. A trip to a Legia or Lech match is
            not.
    • firemouse Re: Only few days left 26.05.06, 21:31
      marimax napisał:

      > Before a big massacre of the english football fans on the streets in Germany.
      > It is estimated 250 000 Polish patriotic fans will be in Germany to meet
      > and "welcome" them.
      > I can hardly wait.
      > REMEMBER YALTA - NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.

      I feel cheated! We were supposed to revenge the II WW!

      Remember Grunwald!
      • marimax Re: Only few days left 27.05.06, 11:01
        Englishman were the best in killing innocent and unarmed Indians in India and
        blacks in Africa and then stabbing their friends in the back.
        They are the masters and don't forget who invented concentration camps too.
        • nasza_maggie Re: Only few days left 27.05.06, 11:08
          Marimax...whoever you are.....
          We've grilled these subjects already.
          If you really want to know what we think as Poles, Englishmen, Scotsmen,
          Portugese, French, Canadian.... ETC. Look thru the forum archives with anything
          under waldek1610.

          And if you have nothing constructive to say, then be on your way.
          • marimax Re: Only few days left 27.05.06, 13:22
            I know, truth hurts
            I will stay here for as long as I want.
            Don't forget there are computers everywhere, I don't have to use this computer
            so now go and shove it...you know where
            • nasza_maggie Re: Only few days left 27.05.06, 13:50
              marimax napisał:

              > I know, truth hurts
              > I will stay here for as long as I want.
              > Don't forget there are computers everywhere, I don't have to use this computer
              > so now go and shove it...you know where

              Yes, right back at you.
              It will be a pleasure to see just how mistaken you are.
    • ianek70 The Past 29.05.06, 10:23
      None of the England fans were even born at the time of Yalta, and most of their
      grandparents voted against Churchill.
      If you have to live in the past, try to live in your own past - it's slightly
      less pathetic than living in someone else's.
      • sobieski010 Re: The Past 29.05.06, 10:42
        Besides there was not much Churchill could have done to help Poland.
        The country ws already occupied by the Soviets. The UK was the junior partner in
        the coalition. The Americans - under the influence of a Soviet infiltrated State
        Department - was definitely against the London Poles and against the English as
        well. And very blissfully ignorant of what happened in Poland in 1945.
        Short of starting a war against the Soviet Union (and nobody in Western Europe
        would have accepted that) nothing could be done by Churchill.


        • ianek70 Re: The Past 29.05.06, 11:59
          sobieski010 napisał:

          > Besides there was not much Churchill could have done to help Poland.
          > The country ws already occupied by the Soviets. The UK was the junior partner
          i
          > n
          > the coalition. The Americans - under the influence of a Soviet infiltrated
          Stat
          > e
          > Department - was definitely against the London Poles and against the English
          as
          > well. And very blissfully ignorant of what happened in Poland in 1945.
          > Short of starting a war against the Soviet Union (and nobody in Western Europe
          > would have accepted that) nothing could be done by Churchill.

          Basically most folk in Europe, East and West, had had enough of war.
          Some may have seen Yalta as a sell-out that they were prepared to accept (a
          lesser evil), some just wanted peace at any cost, a few people then still
          believed in communism, some saw it as a temporary measure.
          Most of the Poles stationed in Scotland in WW2 (70,000 stayed after the war
          ended) believed the situation was temporary, and that they'd be going home
          soon, it was only a couple of years later that there were falsified elections
          in Eastern Europe and it became clear (to people in the west) that it might be
          permanent.

          Basically Europe was f**ked, America wasn't and the average American didn't
          care too much about Europe.
          • marimax Re: The Past 29.05.06, 19:37
            Yes, this fat pig was saint.
            Everything was an Americas fault.
            Did Americans tell this fat pig not to invite Polish troops to the victory
            parade after the war ended ????
            It must have been CIA who helped to kill Sikorski too.
            Poor english charming, trustworthy, honest people
              • sobieski010 Re: The Past 29.05.06, 22:21
                It was this "fat pig" who saved Europe from Nazi conquest in May 1940. My
                native Antwerp was liberated by Englsih troops in 1944.
                You Americans were supporting Vichy France untill June 1944 and even after that
                through this nazi admiral Leahy (family of yours?)
                Churchill stood between Nazi horrors in 1940 - not that you would understand
                this.
                And the Americans sold us in 1945 to Uncle Joe.
                • ianek70 Churchill 30.05.06, 12:49
                  sobieski010 napisał:

                  > It was this "fat pig" who saved Europe from Nazi conquest in May 1940. My
                  > native Antwerp was liberated by Englsih troops in 1944.

                  [...]

                  > Churchill stood between Nazi horrors in 1940 - not that you would understand
                  > this.

                  Personally, I'm not a fan of Churchill. He was an arrogant Tory who wasn't
                  particularly liked before the war.
                  However, he was an excellent orator, and it's generally accepted that he was an
                  inspiring and respected wartime leader, even (albeit grudgingly) by those who
                  disliked his character or politics. My grandparents and other relatives that
                  lived through those times rarely had a bad word to say about Churchill's role
                  in the war, even though they had the same instinctive hatred for all Tories
                  that most people have in the West of Scotland.
                  But you can't deny that he was fat.
                  • usenetposts Re: Churchill 30.05.06, 20:56
                    ianek70 napisał:

                    > sobieski010 napisał:
                    >
                    > > It was this "fat pig" who saved Europe from Nazi conquest in May 1940. My
                    >
                    > > native Antwerp was liberated by Englsih troops in 1944.
                    >
                    > [...]
                    >
                    > > Churchill stood between Nazi horrors in 1940 - not that you would underst
                    > and
                    > > this.
                    >
                    > Personally, I'm not a fan of Churchill. He was an arrogant Tory who wasn't
                    > particularly liked before the war.
                    > However, he was an excellent orator, and it's generally accepted that he was
                    an
                    >
                    > inspiring and respected wartime leader, even (albeit grudgingly) by those who
                    > disliked his character or politics. My grandparents and other relatives that
                    > lived through those times rarely had a bad word to say about Churchill's role
                    > in the war, even though they had the same instinctive hatred for all Tories
                    > that most people have in the West of Scotland.
                    > But you can't deny that he was fat.

                    That was still a pretty normal weight for a man in those days.

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