Tłum

[shachar]

Wszynam ten wątek, bo, zanim rozpoczynamy deliberacje, załamywanie rąk, czy czyste zdziwienia nad wydarzeniami politycznymi, warto, moim zdaniem, uzbroić się w wiedzę na temat teorii ruchów mas.
Ja zaczynam od Gustave LeBon "The Crowd" , napisaną w XIX wieku, a co.
The most striking peculiarity presented by a psychological crowd is the following: Whoever be the individuals that compose it, however like or unlike be their mode of life, their occupations, their character, or their intelligence, the fact that they have been transformed into a crowd puts them in possession of a sort of collective mind which makes them feel, think, and act in a manner quite different from that in which each individual of them would feel, think, and act were he in a state of isolation.
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[a_iii_ty]

Dlatego moge zniesc pojedynczego homoluda, para mnie juz niepokoi, trojcy zaczynam sie bac, a kosciolow, stadionow, koncertow, pochodow unikam jak ognia.
Szalom.

[shachar]

A commencement of antipathy or disapprobation, which in the case of an isolated individual would not gain strength, becomes at once furious hatred in the case of an individual in a crowd.

The violence of the feelings of crowds is also increased, especially in heterogeneous crowds, by the absence of all sense of responsibility. The certainty of impunity, a certainty the stronger as the crowd is more numerous, and the notion of a considerable momentary force due to number, make possible in the case of crowds sentiments and acts impossible for the isolated individual. In crowds the foolish, ignorant, and envious persons are freed from the sense of their insignificance and powerlessness, and are possessed instead by the notion of brutal and temporary but immense strength.

[shachar]

Unfortunately, this tendency of crowds towards exaggeration is often brought to bear upon bad sentiments. These sentiments are atavistic residuum of the instincts of the primitive man, which the fear of punishment obliges the isolated and responsible individual to curb. Thus it is that crowds are so easily led into the worst excesses.
Given to exaggeration in its feelings, a crowd is only impressed by excessive sentiments. An orator wishing to move a crowd must make an abusive use of violent affirmations. To exaggerate, to affirm, to resort to repetitions, and never to attempt to prove anything by reasoning are methods of argument well known to speakers at public meetings.

Moreover, a crowd exacts a like exaggeration in the sentiments of its heroes. Their apparent qualities and virtues must always be amplified. It has been justly remarked that on the stage a crowd demands from the hero of the piece a degree of courage, morality, and virtue that is never to be found in real life.

Wow, zaraz cała książkę tu wkleję

[shachar]

Crowds are only cognisant of simple and extreme sentiments; the opinions, ideas, and beliefs suggested to them are accepted or rejected as a whole, and considered as absolute truths or as not less absolute errors.

An individual may accept contradiction and discussion; a crowd will never do so.

Crowds exhibit a docile respect for force, and are but slightly impressed by kindness, which for them is scarcely other than a form of weakness. Their sympathies have never been bestowed on easy-going masters, but on tyrants who vigorously oppressed them. It is to these latter that they always erect the loftiest statues. It is true that they willingly trample on the despot whom they have stripped of his power, but it is because, having lost his strength, he has resumed his place among the feeble, who are to be despised because they are not to be feared. The type of hero dear to crowds will always have the semblance of a Caesar. His insignia attracts them, his authority overawes them, and his sword instils them with fear.
A crowd is always ready to revolt against a feeble, and to bow down servilely before a strong authority.

Ha!
Jeszcze wczoraj wydawało mi się, że żyję w jakiejś unikalnej historycznie chwili, a tu panie dzieju, sprawy stare jak świat. Doczytam do końca tego XIX-wiecznego pana, żeby zobaczyć, jak ten tu XXI-wieczny thriller zakończy.

[shachar]

Abandoned to themselves, they soon weary of disorder, and instinctively turn to servitude. It was the proudest and most untractable of the Jacobins who acclaimed Bonaparte with greatest energy when he suppressed all liberty and made his hand of iron severely felt.

It is difficult to understand history, and popular revolutions in particular, if one does not take sufficiently into account the profoundly conservative instincts of crowds. They may be desirous, it is true, of changing the names of their institutions, and to obtain these changes they accomplish at times even violent revolutions, but the essence of these institutions is too much the expression of the hereditary needs of the race for them not invariably to abide by it.

[shachar]

Okazuje się, że tłum to nie samo zło. Bywa, ze bycie w tłumie powiększa zdolność jednostki do poświęcenia, do której nie byłaby zdolna bez grupy. Dobra, resztę sami sobie doczytajcie Bardzo ciekawe czytadło, czuję się jak Darwin na Galapagos!

A crowd may be guilty of murder, incendiarism, and every kind of crime, but it is also capable of very lofty acts of devotion, sacrifice, and disinterestedness, of acts much loftier indeed than those of which the isolated individual is capable. Appeals to sentiments of glory, honour, and patriotism are particularly likely to influence the individual forming part of a crowd, and often to the extent of obtaining from him the sacrifice of his life.

[shachar]

jednak nie mogę się powstrzymać. Oto dlaczego polityka zawsze będzie dla mnie i dla ciebie wytrzeszczaniem oczu i kręceniem głową przy porannej kawie, mądrzy pojedynczo, durni jako masa.

Ideas being only accessible to crowds after having assumed a very simple shape must often undergo the most thoroughgoing transformations to become popular. It is especially when we are dealing with somewhat lofty philosophic or scientific ideas that we see how far-reaching are the modifications they require in order to lower them to the level of the intelligence of crowds.

[shachar]

I coś dla rewolucjonistów, jakie są perspektywy sukcesu.
Even when an idea has undergone the transformations which render it accessible to crowds, it only exerts influence when, by various processes which we shall examine elsewhere, it has entered the domain of the unconscious, when indeed it has become a sentiment, for which much time is required.
The philosophical ideas which resulted in the French Revolution took nearly a century to implant themselves in the mind of the crowd.

[shachar]

Haha! Trump może wielu książek nie przeczytał, ale tę przeleciał parę razy od A do Z, Spójrzcie na front gazety, a tam akuku! Trump z pięścią w górze.Wielu pomyśli sobie, ale głupek, ale i tak wybierze jego, jeśli przyjdzie co do czego, a nie Bidena z otwartym dziobem. Taki jest nasz kolektywny ssaczy osąd.

A long time is necessary for ideas to establish themselves in the minds of crowds...... For this reason crowds, as far as ideas are concerned, are always several generations behind learned men and philosophers.

[a_iii_ty]

No dobrze, a teraz jak Ty reagujesz na tlum, tak prywatnie? Ja zawsze wolalem patrzec na tanczacych, niz gibac sie z nimi. W kosciele dostawalem atakow paniki. Do zadnych stowarzyszen nie nalezalem, albo bardzo krotko i wypierdalalem w podchodach.
Dlatego do zadnej partii nie naleze, nie glosuje jak tlumy wokol itp.
Lubie grac tylko pasjanse. W czworke jak mi przyszlo grac, to zawsze zle sie czulem.
Nie obchodza mnie te wszystkie theorie o tlumach. Wazne jest dla mnie tylko co ja oczuwam na widok trojcy I wiecej.
Moze to fobia, ale nie zamierzam walczyc z tym.
Taki Wojtyla uwielbial byc otoczonym przez milion sleeple. Ja bym umarl.
Tlum wysysa energie ode mnie. Wojtyla byl wampirem, dlatego kochal tlumy.
Myslenie tlumu, to zadna wypadkowa myslenia jednostek. To jest cos wiecej i
Zgola innego.
Braun, podaj gasnice, buahaha.
Amen.

[wilczamia]

8.99 peelenow, kupilam sobie po polsku

[a_iii_ty]

A o co ci chodzi?

[wilczamia]

Chodzi mi o to, ze sobie nabylam rekomendowane dzielo, odbiore w piatek i bede czytala sobie oraz nie sobie Nie pamietam, kiedy oststnio zaplacilam tak zawrotna sume za ksiazke. Moze kiedys w jakims thrift storze, bo w PL to chyba jeszcze przed stara psychologia...

[krytyk2]

Tu działał inny motyw i okoliczności. Decyzję wyborcze są podejmowane w umyśle, w samotności. Składają się na nie różne czynniki i doświadczenie. Pojęcie tłumu zaczyna się wtedy, gdy idę sam ciemna ulicą a naprzeciw idzie piatka bandytów, szukajacych rozrywki.Wtedy reakcja jednego na mnie wywołuje lawinę pomysłów jak zabawić się z gosciem