$10,000 nagroda & Fahrenheit 9/11

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Bushmeni mozecie zarobic, do dziela zaplacone bedzie dziesiec tysiecy dolcow
dla tego ktory znajdzie jeden fakt w filmioe ktory nie jest faktem:

'$10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong.'

Even liberal Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, an opponent of the war,
told his readers that he "recoiled from Moore's methodology." To mount fast
responses to critics like those, Moore has organized a "war room" overseen by
former Clinton White House aides Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani. He also hired
the former chief of fact checking at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film
for inaccuracies. "There's lots of disagreement with my analysis of these
facts or my opinion based on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a
single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $10,000 reward
for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."

www.time.com/time/covers/1101040712/story.html
jak ktos nie jestes TIME Magazine subscriber to tutaj jest calosc, powodzenia:

www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=62

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Cos mi sie zdaje ze nie ma chetnych do zdobycia nagrody, czy moze nie ma jak
jej zdobyc z prostej przyczyny, FAKT pozostanie FAKTEM?

> Bushmeni mozecie zarobic, do dziela zaplacone bedzie dziesiec tysiecy dolcow
> dla tego ktory znajdzie jeden fakt w filmioe ktory nie jest faktem:
>
> '$10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong.'
>
> Even liberal Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, an opponent of the war,
> told his readers that he "recoiled from Moore's methodology." To mount fast
> responses to critics like those, Moore has organized a "war room" overseen by
> former Clinton White House aides Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani. He also hired
> the former chief of fact checking at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film
> for inaccuracies. "There's lots of disagreement with my analysis of these
> facts or my opinion based on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a
> single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $10,000 reward
> for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."
>
> www.time.com/time/covers/1101040712/story.html
> jak ktos nie jestes TIME Magazine subscriber to tutaj jest calosc, powodzenia:
>
> www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=62

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Michael Isikoff poprosil o transkrypt filmu na co Chris Lahane zaczal mowic
bez przecinkow zagluszajac wszystkich i w koncu odmowil, ale zaoferowal ustna
pomoc. Isikoff usmiechnal sie filuternie, machnal reka i wyszedl. Lahane nie
przerwal potoku slow.
Polecam nastepny felieton Christophera Hitchensa:

THIS FILM COULDN'T BE MOORE WRONG

Jun 30 2004

WHY BUSH CONSPIRACY THEORIES DON'T ADD UP

By Christopher Hitchens


SCIENTISTS have a contemptuous expression for a theory they know is sheer junk -
they say it is "Not Even Wrong".

Documentary films are not exact science - but that in no way liberates them from
the need to respect the truth.

Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11 is so distanced from the constraints of
fact that his claims roam into the realms of fantasy. They need to be challenged.

He has a message for the poor dupes who thought the international intervention
in Afghanistan was a punishment for state terrorism and a rescue operation for
an enslaved society.

You poor fools, he says. Don't you know it's all about the Bush family's
business dealings? The big secret is that the Unocal oil company wants to build
a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan.

A long, boring and convoluted section of this movie is devoted to making - or
trying to make - this point.

But it all falls to the ground if you know one simple thing - Unocal's Afghan
proposal was abandoned in 1998, and has not been resumed.

The proposal explains nothing about how the Taliban took over the country, about
how al-Qaeda took up residence there and about how the war with Islamic jihad
got started.

The theory is Not Even Wrong.

But it's hastily succeeded by another theory, which is that American foreign
policy is secretly controlled by Saudi Arabian oil interests.

That's funny: the Saudis were very strongly opposed to the invasion of
Afghanistan, and so critical of the invasion of Iraq that they forced the United
States military off their territory and into neighbouring Quatar.

How come George Bush keeps doing the opposite of what his masters dictate?

Oh never mind, it's only worth making points like this, or asking such
questions, if one takes Moore seriously. And to do this would be a mistake.

He'll say whatever jumps out of his mouth. Pick up the July issue of Playboy and
see the long interview he's just given.

Here we learn there are only 190 al-Qaeda terrorists in the world, and the job
of killing them should be sub-contracted to the Israelis.

Again, that's funny, even if unintentionally, since Moore usually rants against
any American support for Israel.

And I have him on video, debating with me a year after September 11, saying that
Osama bin Laden should in any case be regarded as innocent until proven guilty.

Yeah, well, that was then and this is now, and tomorrow he'll be spouting some
new and even madder conspiracy scheme.

The film doesn't even try to keep its "story" straight.

We are told that Saddam was harmless - that he never harmed or tried to harm any
American. Then we are told that Bush hates Saddam because Saddam tried to
assassinate his daddy.

Well, George Bush Sr is an American isn't he? And an attempted murder of a
former President is a serious thing, isn't it?

Not in the childish, jeering universe of Michael Moore it's not.

Somehow, also, the whole of Saddam's record of crime and violence and terror
gets completely left out of the account.

Then again, in the film the most ridiculed member of the Bush administration is
John Ashcroft (who may well deserve it). But it's then said that none of those
who favour war are willing to send their own children. Well, John Ashcroft's son
is in the US Navy and has been in the Gulf.

By Moore's playground logic, that would make Ashcroft OK. But surely that can't
be right?

Oh well, on to the next random accusation or crackpot theory.

You have probably heard a good deal about Richard Clarke lately. He is the
former head of counter-terrorism for the Bush administration, and he's become
quite a critic of the Iraq war.

Moore interviewed him at length several months ago. The film makes the
breathless accusation that the White House allowed several members of the bin
Laden family to leave the country in secret in the immediate aftermath of the
September 11 attacks.

But between the film's showing in Cannes and its general release, Mr Clarke has
stated on the record that he, and he alone, cleared those flights.

So either Moore, when he had the chance, didn't ask the man who knew, or he did
ask him and didn't like (and didn't use) the answer. In any case, he's now
caught with his enormous pants completely down.

When this happens, and it happens a lot, Moore tends to take refuge in mumbles
about artistic licence.

But when he's in front of an audience of yelling juvenile supporters, he shouts
that this film is the truth and nothing but the truth.

Yet nothing can stop even the dumbest of his fans asking a few questions.

If there were too few terrorist alerts and warnings before September 11, why is
it wrong to have more of them now?

If these warnings only create "fear", as Moore asserts, then what do we say
about his own claim that the United States is run by a secret cabal that is in
league with the terrorists?

Is this perhaps designed to spread reassurance?

The movie is full of falsity and wind, some of it too silly for words but some
of it sinister and some of it nasty.

The most objectionable single thing is Moore's gross exploitation of a woman
from his home town in Michigan who lost her son in action in Iraq. Her misery
and grief is milked beyond embarrassment.

Not long ago, Moore said those who are blasting and maiming and beheading their
way across Iraq, and trying to prevent it from having its first-ever free
election were the Iraqi revolution.

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or
'terrorists' or 'The Enemy'.

"They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen [the civilian militia of the American
war of independence], and their numbers will grow - and they will win."

Moore complains all the time that the funerals of fallen Americans don't get
enough publicity.

I think he should jam on that baseball cap of his, shamble off to a few of these
ceremonies, and get himself filmed while he cleverly explains this secret, known
only to a favoured few, about the liberation forces that are killing British and
American and Iraqi servicemen.

If he had the nerve to do that, I might join in the current witless chorus about
his supposed "courage".

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=14378134&method=full&siteid=50143

felusiak

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czy juz wygrales czy jeszcze szukasz "faktu ktory nie jest faktem"?

fallus(siak) jest slodki, duza buzka!!!

[Gość: murzyn]

[wieslaw11]

MOJ DZIEN NARODOWEGO SWIETA 4-GO LIPCA.

A wiec wczoraj wybralem sie razem z rodzina
do kina zobaczyc ten slynny film "FAHRENHEIT 9/11"
o ktorym wszyscy mowia i dyskutuja w calym
Amerykanskim kraju.

Jako zatwardzialy Republikan, chcialem zobaczyc
na wlasne oczy, ta propagande przeciw naszemu
wspanialemu prezdentowi Bush'i, rozsiewana
przez liberalow i komunistow.

Ten film przeszedl jakiekolwiek moje oczekiwania.

W czasie ogladania filmu nie moglem pochamowac
cisnacych sie lez do mych oczow, na zmiane z
niepochamowanym smiachem i obrzydzeniem, patrzac
na zyda Wulfovitz,a z Pentagonu publicznie
spluwajacego na swa dlon i przygladzajacego
swe wlosy.

Jesli ten film nie byl by zrobiony na podstawie
autentycznych dokumentalnych zdjec to bym nie uwierzyl ze ten
kraj USA jest rzadzony przez taka bande mordercow,
zlodzieji, i idiotow.

W ciagu 2 godzin spedzonych w kinie moj wspanialy
prezdent George Bush stal sie super debilem,
morderca, i miedzynarodowym kryminalista a reszta
bandy z Bialego Domu na czele z vice-prezdentem Cheyny
niczym innym tylko banda zlodzieji na szeroka skale.

Dzisiaj wlasnie wrocilismy z zona z urzedu wyborczego,
gdzie zmienilismy przynaleznosc partji Republikanskiej
na Demokratyczna.

TAK WSPANIALEGO FILMU NIE OGLADALEM W CZASIE 70 LAT
MEGO ZYCIA I CHYBA NIE ZOBACZE WIECEJ.

POLECAM KAZDEMU OBEJRZENIE TEGO FILMU.

ZYGMUNT