Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku

31.10.06, 23:05
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/31/kerry.mccain/index.html
ofkors ma racje-tylko Debiljarze z przekonania albo kompletne
glupki daja sie zabic dla globalnych mafii ktore steruja Debiljem
i jego neokonami.
    • j-k wiadomo, a madrzy te wojne wygraja :))) 31.10.06, 23:07
      buenas noches .)))
    • krystian71 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 13:02
      nie ma sily, ta wojna niestety nie jest do wygrania.
      Bo nie w tym rzecz,ze glupki walcza w Iraqu,ale ze glupki te wojne sprokurowali
      i ja prowadzili.
      jeszcze rok temu ,cos bylo do ugrania , obecnie nawet Iraqu opuscic sie nie da,
      Czyli pat i klincz
      Buenos dias
    • felusiak1 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 18:59
      Jeszcze wczoraj Kerry butnie uderzał w pulpit zarzekajac sie, że nie przeprosi a
      dzisiaj przeprasza już trzeci raz.
      • yann17 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 19:29
        felusiak1 napisała:

        > Jeszcze wczoraj Kerry butnie uderzał w pulpit zarzekajac sie, że nie
        przeprosi
        > a
        > dzisiaj przeprasza już trzeci raz.
        ---------------------
        co nie zmienia istoty wypowiedzi, a to, że przeprasza, to felusiaku zgodne jest
        z twoją teorią wg. której nastapil wzrost aktywności rebeliantów w Iraku, przy
        czym to pierwsze jest pewne a to drugie nie koniecznie.



        • felusiak1 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 19:38
          Wypowiedź Kerry'ego nie ma nic wspólniego z Irakiem a wiele wspólnego z
          nadchodzącymi wyborami. Kerry, który jest idiotą sprawił prezent republikanom.
          Demokratyczni kandydaci już nie chcą aby brał udział w ich kampanii.
          Ucieczka trwa.
          Politycy maja to do siebie, że mówia duzo bzdur. W wiekszości sa to bzdury
          niegroźne, czasami groźne za które płaca cenę (Trent Lott) a czasami maja tak
          wysokie mniemanie o sobie, że nie ma ceny i wtedy sprawiaja prezent przeciwnikom.
          • yann17 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 20:26
            jeżeli to było odpowiedź na mój poprzedni post , to zupełnie pominąłeś to co w
            nim zawarłem, co jest Twoją wypraktykowaną metodą.
            • felusiak1 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 22:07
              nie trudź sie. nie zrozumiesz o co chodzi.
              • yann17 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 22:30
                nie muszę, twoje wpisy to z reguły sofistyka ( nie kazdy zasługuje na taki
                komplement).

                PS: Kilka razy prosiłem cię o link do jakiegoś artykułu, który potwierdzałby
                twoje przemyślenia na temat słusznosci działań administracji Busha, a
                szczególnie jej polityki zagranicznej.
                Pominąłeś to taktycznym milczeniem.
                • felusiak1 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 01.11.06, 22:51
                  yann artykułów za o przeciw jest do cholery i jeszcze trochę. Nic nie stoi na
                  przeszkodzie abyś sobie wyszukał. 90% z tego nie da sie czytać, czyste bzdety.
                  Wypowiedź Kerry'ego nie ma z tym nic wspólnego. Na wyborczym wiecu w miejskim
                  uniwersytecie palnął bzdurę, która natychmiast podchwycili przeciwnicy.
                  Nawet Karl Rowe złozył ręce do Boga za taki prezent.
                  Nie wiem gdzie mieszkasz ale tu w USA gdybyś obejrzał przedwyborcze reklamy
                  kandydatów to załamałbys się. Niejednokrotnie jestem zażenowany. Dno
                  intelektualne. Ale wybory to nie uniwersytet lecz gra na emocjach aby zdobyć
                  głosy garstki niezdecydowanych.
                  • j-k jestes pewien? 01.11.06, 22:54
                    felusiak1 napisała:
                    Dno intelektualne. Ale wybory to nie uniwersytet, lecz gra na emocjach, aby
                    zdobyć głosy garstki niezdecydowanych.

                    Jestes pewien, ze to tylko garstka, a nie 1/3 wyborcow?
                    • felusiak1 Re: jestes pewien? 01.11.06, 23:41
                      1/3 wyborców okreslana jest mianem independent co nie oznacza, że wszyscy są
                      niezdecydowani. Zwykle na tydzień przed głosowaniem niezdecydowani stanowia 4-5%
                      Zatem garstka.
      • tia666 Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 02.11.06, 01:49
        hehe widocznie wiekszosc glupkow zostala w kraju i sie chlop przerazil
        • 2bizarre Re: Kerry: tylko glupki walcza w Iraku 02.11.06, 10:19
          On the 22nd of May, 1856, as the deteriorating American political system veered
          towards the edge of the cliff, Congressman Preston Brooks of South Carolina,
          shuffled into the Senate of this nation, his leg stiff from an old dueling
          injury, supported by a cane. And he looked for the familiar figure of the
          prominent Senator from Massachusetts, Charles Sumner.

          Brooks found Sumner at his desk, mailing out copies of a speech he had
          delivered three days earlier — a speech against slavery.

          The Congressman matter-of-factly raised his walking stick in mid-air, and
          smashed its metal point, across the Senator's head.

          Congressman Brooks hit his victim repeatedly. Senator Sumner somehow got to his
          feet and tried to flee. Brooks chased him, and delivered untold blows to
          Sumner's head. Even though Sumner lay unconscious and bleeding, on the Senate
          floor, Brooks finally stopped beating him, only because his cane finally broke.

          Others will cite John Brown's attack on the arsenal at Harper's Ferry as the
          exact point after which the Civil War became inevitable.

          In point of fact, it might have been the moment — not when Brooks broke his
          cane over the prostrate body of Senator Sumner - but when voters in Brooks's
          district started sending him new canes.

          Tonight, we almost wonder to whom President Bush will send the next new cane.

          There is tonight no political division in this country that he and his party
          will not exploit, nor have not exploited; no anxiety that he and his party will
          not inflame.

          There is no line this President has not crossed — nor will not cross — to keep
          one political party, in power.

          He has spread any and every fear among us, in a desperate effort to avoid that
          which he most fears — some check, some balance against what has become not an
          imperial, but a unilateral presidency.

          And now it is evident that it no longer matters to him, whether that effort to
          avoid the judgment of the people, is subtle and nuanced — or laughably
          transparent.

          Senator John Kerry called him out Monday.

          He did it two years too late.

          He had been too cordial — just as Vice President Gore had been too cordial in
          2000 — just as millions of us, have been too cordial ever since.

          Senator Kerry, as you well know, spoke at a college in Southern California.
          With bitter humor, he told the students that he had been in Texas the day
          before, that President Bush used to live in that state, but that now he lives
          in the state of denial.

          He said the trip had reminded him about the value of education — that quote "if
          you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an
          effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you can get stuck in Iraq."

          The Senator, in essence, called Mr. Bush stupid.

          The context was unmistakable: Texas;the state of denial;stuck in Iraq. No
          interpretation required.

          And Mr. Bush and his minions responded, by appearing to be too stupid to
          realize that they had been called stupid.

          They demanded Kerry apologize — to the troops in Iraq.

          And so he now has.

          That phrase "appearing to be too stupid" is used deliberately, Mr. Bush.

          Because there are only three possibilities here:

          One, sir, is that you are far more stupid than the worst of your critics have
          suggested; that you could not follow the construction of a simple sentence;
          that you could not recognize your own life story when it was deftly summarized;
          that you could not perceive it was the sad ledger of your presidency that was
          being recounted.

          This, of course, compliments you, Mr. Bush, because even those who do not "make
          the most of it," who do not "study hard," who do not "do their homework," and
          who do not "make an effort to be smart" might still just be stupid — but honest.

          No; the first option, sir, is, at best, improbable. You are not honest.

          The second option is that you and those who work for you deliberately twisted
          what Senator Kerry said to fit your political template. That you decided to
          take advantage of it, to once again pretend that the attacks, solely about your
          own incompetence, were in fact attacks on the troops — or even on the nation
          itself.

          The third possibility is, obviously, the nightmare scenario; that the first two
          options are in some way conflated.

          That it is both politically convenient for you, and personally satisfying to
          you, to confuse yourself with the country for which, sir, you work.

          A brief reminder, Mr. Bush: You are not the United States of America.

          You are merely a politician whose entire legacy will have been a willingness to
          make anything political — to have, in this case, refused to acknowledge that
          the insult wasn't about the troops, and that the insult was not even truly
          about you either — that the insult, in fact, is you.

          So now John Kerry has apologized to the troops; apologized for the Republicans'
          deliberate distortions.

          Thus the President will now begin the apologies he owes our troops, right?

          This President must apologize to the troops — for having suggested, six weeks
          ago, that the chaos in Iraq, the death and the carnage, the slaughtered Iraqi
          civilians and the dead American service personnel, will, to history,
          quote "look like just a comma."

          This President must apologize to the troops — because the intelligence he
          claims led us into Iraq proved to be undeniably and irredeemably wrong.

          This President must apologize to the troops — for having laughed about the
          failure of that intelligence, at a banquet, while our troops were in harm's way.

          This President must apologize to the troops — because the streets of Iraq were
          not strewn with flowers and its residents did not greet them as liberators.

          This President must apologize to the troops — because his administration ran
          out of "plan" after barely two months.

          This President must apologize to the troops — for getting 2,815 of them killed.

          This President must apologize to the troops — for getting this country into a
          war without a clue.

          And Mr. Bush owes us an apology… for this destructive and omnivorous presidency.



          We will not receive them, of course.

          This President never apologizes.

          Not to the troops.

          Not to the people.

          Nor will those henchmen who have echoed him.

          In calling him a "stuffed suit," Senator Kerry was wrong about the Press
          Secretary.

          Mr. Snow's words and conduct — falsely earnest and earnestly false — suggest he
          is not "stuffed" - he is inflated.

          And in leaving him out of the equation, Senator Kerry gave an unwarranted pass
          to his old friend Senator McCain, who should be ashamed of himself tonight.

          He rolled over and pretended Kerry had said what he obviously had not.

          Only, the symbolic stick he broke over Kerry's head came in a context, even
          more disturbing: Mr. McCain demanded the apology, while electioneering for a
          Republican congressional candidate in Illinois.

          He was speaking of how often he had been to Walter Reed Hospital to see the
          wounded Iraq veterans, of how, quote "many of the have lost limbs." He said all
          this while demanding that the voters of Illinois reject a candidate who is not
          only a wounded Iraq veteran, but who lost two limbs there: Tammy Duckworth.

          Support some of the wounded veterans. But bad-mouth the Democratic one.

          And exploit all the veterans, and all the still-serving personnel, in a cheap
          and tawdry political trick, to try to bury the truth: that John Kerry said the
          President had been stupid.

          And to continue this slander as late as this morning — as biased, or gullible,
          or lazy newscasters, nodded in sleep-walking assent.

          Senator McCain became a front man in a collective lie to break sticks over the
          heads of Democra
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