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Kto kreowal dzisiejsza Turcje ,...

10.11.07, 22:30
To samo bractwo ktore "cywilizowalo" Ottoman Empire holocaustem
Ormian , Young Turks , zydowska miedzynarodowka skladajaca sie z
lwiej czesci z Donmeh Jews , ktorzy rzekomo przyjeli Islam , a po
cichu praktykowali Judaism - Pacholkow syjonisty Jabotynskiego ,
ktorzy z finansowa pomoca zydowskich bankierow , na marginesie ,
tych samych ktorzy finansowali rewolucje w Rosji , probowali po
I-szej wojnie skomunizowac w Hiszpanie i Niemcy ,...

Jesli ktokolwiek ma jakies watpliwosci dlaczego dzisiejsi wladcy
zio-grajdolka bronia sie przed uznaniem masakry poltora miliona
Ormian za holocaust to ma odpowiedz dlaczego - Bo w/g starego
przyslowia , wszystkie drogi prowadza do Rzymu ,...

Ironia losu jest fakt , ze po inwestycji w Jabotynskiego , Herca
i zydowskiej miedzynarodowki , idea pozbycia sie Zydow z ziem
brytyjskiego imperium , spalila na panewce ,...



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    • j-k No Atatürk - ale sie pomylil. 10.11.07, 22:34
      To Panstwo do rozebrania.
      Miedzy etnicznych Turkow
      Kurdow
      i Ormian.
      • j-k PS. zapomnialem o Grekach 10.11.07, 22:35
        ktorym tureccy bandyci i okupanci winni sa liczne Ziemie...
      • spitme Re: No Atatürk - ale sie pomylil. 11.11.07, 00:40
        Czasem i z toba sie zgadzam ,... An Ottoman empire padlo z racji
        wiary bo nie pozwolalo na zydowska lichwe zydowskiej financiery ,
        w imperium i stala sie celem zydowskiej finansiery , Rosjia , z
        kolei z racji oporu cara do miedzynarodowej bankowosci z gwarancja
        splaty dlugow przez podatnika , czym w Stanach jest National Reserve
        Bank a w Polsce Narodowy Bank , ktory zedrze ostatnia koszule z
        podatnika za credit rating jest idealem dla bankiera ,...

        Najlepszym dowodem tego co pisze jest przyznawanie kredytow
        rezimom jak Chauchesku w Rumunii , czy Gierkowi w PRL , bo tacy
        jak oni nie mieli problemu ze splata pozyczek , czy przelozenia
        splat z wyzszym procentem , bo wiadomo ze rezim ma paly za soba
        i mozliwosc splaty pozyczek podwyzkami cen na produkty pierwszej
        (i nie tylko) potrzeby , wbrew woli spoleczenstwa ,...

        Dla bankierow taka sytuacja to raj ,...
    • felusiak1 myślę, że choroba przybiera na sile 11.11.07, 00:08
      a pozatem WHO CARES?
      Relax, go for a walk, play with your dog... if you catch my drift?
      • spitme Re: myślę, że choroba przybiera na sile 11.11.07, 15:25
        Dzieki za diagnoze doc - Daj nam znac jak bedziesz Napoleonem ,
        wyruszymy na Moskwe ,... O'k ??? ,...
    • dana33 Re: Kto kreowal dzisiejsza Turcje ,... 11.11.07, 00:35
      nu, nareszcie rozlupanczyk.... nareszcie masz nick pasujacy do ciebie
      jak ulal: spit me...... teraz juz mozesz pluc na siebie.......
    • polski_francuz Dla splita 11.11.07, 00:48
      CWANI ŻYDZI

      Polscy Żydzi zawsze mieli bezpieczniki lub uszczelki
      Co chroniły jakoś ich przed kłopotami
      Na koszt państwa posprowadzał Żydów król Kazimierz Wielki
      A Polacy się musieli przywlec sami.

      W drugiej Rzeczypospolitej Żydzi mieli jeszcze lepiej,
      Sprzedawali mnóstwo śledzi albo tkanin,
      Każdy Żyd z podstępną miną stał za ladą w swoim sklepie
      I sprzedawał na złość taniej niż chrześcijanin.

      Nawet okres okupacji też się polskim Żydom przydał -
      Po podwórku Himmler miotał się z armatką,
      Zaś w mieszkaniu Polak z Polką ukrywali swego Żyda,
      A czy Żyd Polaka ukrył? Bardzo rzadko.

      Teraz zwłaszcza, gdy się w życie historyczny układ wciela
      Szewardnadze - Ribbentrop - Mołotow - Genscher,
      Żydzi znowu mają z górki - mogą zwiać do Izraela,
      A ja ku.. znów pod Kutnem z szablą w ręce.

      Od Andrzeja Waligorskiego, skopiowane z postu "szeptanej.propagandy" z jedengo
      zaprzyjaznionego forum przez

      PFa
    • sansone1 a czy Zydzi za twoje hemoroidy tez 11.11.07, 07:58
      winni sa....bo po twoim stylu mozna wywnioskowac ze nie tylko homoroidy masz ale
      tez do kluby "Prostata" nalezysz.
    • z_daleka Re: fala za fala... 11.11.07, 08:09
      no i mamy tsunami, spitme. Masz kamizelke ratunkowa?
    • spitme Re: Kto kreowal dzisiejsza Turcje ,... 11.11.07, 09:32
      Palmerston launches Young Turksto permanently control Middle East
      =================================================================
      by Joseph Brewda

      Chorus: It is clear that the B'nai B'rith is an abject tool of
      British intelligence, run and directed to serve the interests of
      British imperial policy, and not the interests of Jews, nor even of
      B'nai B'rith members. The one peculiarity of B'nai B'rith in
      comparison to the other organizations launched by Palmerston and his
      three stooges, is that B'nai B'rith will be used for a wider variety
      of tasks in various countries and epochs. Therefore, the B'nai
      B'rith will be more permanent in its continuous organization than
      its Mazzinian counterparts, among which it stands out as the most
      specialized.

      At the end of this century, one of the tasks assigned to the B'nai
      B'rith will be to direct, with the help of other Mazzinian agents,
      the dismemberment and partition of the Ottoman Empire. This is the
      state the British will call "the sick man of Europe." Historically,
      the Ottoman Empire offers surprising tolerance to its ethnic
      minorities. In order to blow up the empire, that will have to be
      changed into brutal racial oppression on the Mazzini model.

      In 1862, during the time of the American Civil War, Mazzini will
      call on all his agents anywhere near Russia to foment revolt as a
      way of causing trouble for Alexander II. A bit later, with the help
      of Young Poland, Mazzini will start a Young Ottoman movement out of
      an Adam Smith translation project in Paris. In 1876, the Young
      Ottomans will briefly seize power in Constantinople. They will end a
      debt moratorium, pay off the British, declare free trade, and bring
      in Anglo-French bankers. They will be quickly overthrown; but the
      same network will soon make a comeback as the Young Turks, whose
      rule will finally destroy the Ottoman Empire.

      In 1908, the Committee for Union and Progress, better known as the
      Young Turks, carried out a military coup, overthrew the sultan, and
      took power in the Ottoman Turkish empire. Once in power, they
      carried out a racist campaign of suppressing all non-Turkish
      minorities. Within four years, their anti-minority campaigns
      provoked the Balkan wars of 1912-13, among Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria,
      and Serbia. By 1914, these wars had triggered World War I, with
      Turkey becoming an ally of Germany.

      Within seven years of coming into power, the Young Turks destroyed
      the Ottoman Empire. British intelligence had manipulated every
      nationalist group in the Empire, both the Young Turks, and their
      opponents.

      When the Young Turks took power, the Ottoman Empire still included
      Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, and the Arabian Peninsula. The
      empire still included much of the Balkans: half of Greece, half of
      Bulgaria, half of Serbia, and all of Albania. Its land area was much
      bigger than present-day Turkey.

      Although most of the population of the Ottoman empire were Turks,
      there were also large numbers of Slavs, Greeks, Arabs, Armenians,
      and Kurds. The Ottoman empire was a multi-ethnic empire, as were the
      nearby Austrian and Russian empires.

      The Young Turks came to power waving the banner of democracy, but
      they soon picked up the banner of pan-Turkism. The idea was to form
      a state that included all the Turkic peoples of Asia. Since half of
      these people lived in Russia, this policy meant a collision with
      Russia.

      But pan-Turkism was not created by the Young Turks or even in
      Turkey. It was first called for in the 1860s by a Hungarian Zionist
      named Arminius Vambery, who had become an adviser to the sultan, but
      who secretly worked for Lord Palmerston and the British Foreign
      Office. Vambery later tried to broker a deal between the Zionist
      leader Theodor Herzl and the sultan, over the creation of Israel.

      The Young Turks also raised the banner of a pan-Islamic state. The
      idea was to bring all the Muslim peoples of the world into one
      empire, whether or not they were Turkish. This was another goal that
      meant conflict with Russia.

      This idea was also not created by the Young Turks or in Turkey. It
      was first called for in the 1870s by an English nobleman named
      Wilfred Blunt, whose family had created the Bank of England. Blunt
      was a top British intelligence official who advocated using Islam to
      destroy Russia. Blunt's family later patronized the British KGB
      spy "Kim" Philby.

      While the Young Turks were pushing the pan-Turkic and pan-Islamic
      movements, the British were also boosting all the anti-Turkish
      independence movements within the empire. They were supporting Arab
      nationalism, led by Lawrence of Arabia. They were supporting Serbian
      nationalism, led by the British agent Seton-Watson; Albanian
      nationalism, led by Lady Dunham; and Bulgarian nationalism, led by
      Noel Buxton. All of these peoples wanted to break free from the
      Ottoman Empire; but they also claimed the land of their neighbors.

      For example, the British supported the idea of carving a "Greater
      Armenia" out of Turkey, Iran, and Russia. This "Greater Armenia" had
      no possibility of existing. None of the Great Powers, including
      Britain, really wanted it. The Kurds, who lived in the same area,
      didn't want it. But the British told the Armenians they supported
      their plans.

      At the same time, the British were also telling the Kurds they
      supported the idea of "Greater Kurdistan." As the map shows, the
      proposed territories of "Greater Kurdistan" and "Greater Armenia"
      were almost identical.

      In 1915, during World War I, the Kurds killed about 1 million
      Armenians. The Young Turks, who had been put in power by the
      British, used the Kurds (who thought they had the support of the
      British) to slaughter the Armenians (who also thought they had the
      support of the British). The British then used this genocide as a
      justification for trying to eliminate Turkey.

      In fact, the next year, the British and French got together to plan
      the division of the Ottoman Empire between themselves. According to
      the plan, which only partially worked, Turkey itself would be
      reduced to a tiny area on the Black Sea. The rest of the empire
      would go to Britain and France ,...

      • spitme Re: Kto kreowal dzisiejsza Turcje ,... 11.11.07, 09:35
        B'nai B'rith and the Young Turks
        =================================

        But who were these "Young Turks," who so efficiently destroyed the
        empire?

        The founder of the Young Turks was an Italian B'nai B'rith official
        named Emmanuel Carasso. Carasso set up the Young Turk secret society
        in the 1890s in Salonika, then part of Turkey, and now part of
        Greece. Carasso was also the grand master of an Italian masonic
        lodge there, called "Macedonia Resurrected." The lodge was the
        headquarters of the Young Turks, and all the top Young Turk
        leadership were members.

        The Italian masonic lodges in the Ottoman Empire had been set up by
        a follower of Giuseppe Mazzini named Emmanuel Veneziano, who was
        also a leader of B'nai B'rith's European affiliate, the Universal
        Israelite Alliance.

        During the Young Turk regime, Carasso continued to play a leading
        role. He met with the sultan, to tell him that he was overthrown. He
        was in charge of putting the sultan under house arrest. He ran the
        Young Turk intelligence network in the Balkans. And he was in charge
        of all food supplies in the empire during World War I.

        Another important area was the press. While in power, the Young
        Turks ran several newspapers, including The Young Turk, whose editor
        was none other than the Russian Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky.
        Jabotinsky had been educated as a young man in Italy. He later
        described Mazzini's ideas as the basis for the Zionist movement.

        Jabotinsky arrived in Turkey shortly after the Young Turks seized
        power, to take over the paper. The paper was owned by a member of
        the Turkish cabinet, but it was funded by the Russian Zionist
        federation, and managed by B'nai B'rith. The editorial policy of the
        paper was overseen by a Dutch Zionist named Jacob Kann, who was the
        personal banker of the king and queen of the Netherlands.

        Jabotinsky later created the most anti-Arab of all the Zionist
        organizations, the Irgun. His followers in Israel today are the ones
        most violently opposed to the Peres-Arafat peace accords.

        Another associate of Carasso was Alexander Helphand, better known as
        Parvus, the financier of the 1905 and 1917 Russian revolutions.
        Shortly after 1905, Parvus moved to Turkey, where he became the
        economics editor of another Young Turk newspaper called The Turkish
        Homeland. Parvus became a business partner of Carasso in the grain
        trade, and an arms supplier to the Turkish army during the Balkan
        wars. He later returned to Europe, to arrange the secret train that
        took Lenin back to Russia, in 1917.

        Of course, there were also some Turks who helped lead the Young Turk
        movement. For example, Talaat Pasha. Talaat was the interior
        minister and dictator of the regime during World War I. He had been
        a member of Carasso's Italian masonic lodge in Salonika. One year
        prior to the 1908 coup, Talaat became the grand master of the
        Scottish Rite Masons in the Ottoman Empire. If you go to the
        Scottish Rite headquarters in Washington, D.C., you can find that
        most of the Young Turk leaders were officials in the Scottish Rite.

        But who founded the Scottish Rite in Turkey? One of the founders was
        the grand master of the Scottish Rite in France, Adolph Cremieux,
        who also happened to be the head of the B'nai B'rith's European
        affiliate. Cremieux had been a leader of Mazzini's Young France, and
        helped put the British stooge Napoleon III into power.

        The British controller: Aubrey Herbert
        You can find the story of the Young Turks in the B'nai B'rith and
        Scottish Rite archives, but you cannot find it in history books. The
        best public account is found in the novel Greenmantle, whose hero is
        a British spy who led the Young Turks. Carasso appears in the novel
        under the name Carusso. The author, John Buchan, who was a British
        intelligence official in World War I, later identified the novel's
        hero as Aubrey Herbert.

        In real life, Herbert was from one of the most powerful noble
        families in England. The family held no fewer than four earldoms.
        His repeated contact with Carasso and other Young Turk leaders is a
        matter of public record. Herbert's grandfather had been a patron of
        Mazzini and died leading revolutionary mobs in Italy in 1848. His
        father was in charge of British Masonry in the 1880s and 1890s. His
        uncle was the British ambassador to the United States. During World
        War I, Herbert was the top British spymaster in the Middle East.
        Lawrence of Arabia later identified Herbert as having been, at one
        time, the head of the Young Turks.

        The U.S. State Department also played a role in the conspiracy. From
        1890 through World War I, there were three U.S. ambassadors to
        Turkey: Oscar Straus, Abraham Elkin, and Henry Morgenthau. All three
        were friends of Simon Wolf. And all three were officials of B'nai
        B'rith.


        • z_daleka Re: ratuj sie , kto moze... 11.11.07, 09:45
          www.marseille.com.pl/files/sr.htm
          • spitme Re: ratuj sie , kto moze... 11.11.07, 10:09
            :))) ,...

            'Just Give Us the Money' - Israeli Minister of Pensioners Affairs
            Rafi Eitan ,...
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