patience SAVEtheMALES.ca 16.02.04, 05:28 WHAT IS FEMINISM? We are not taught history for a good reason. Feminism today is Communism. Communism was never a Russian-based revolt of the working class. It was always an elite mechanism to control the common man and establish world dictatorship. Leon Trotsky played chess with Baron Rothschild at Cafe Central in Vienna before going on to lead the Bolshevik Revolution. (Joseph Nedava, Trotsky and the Jews, 1972, p.36) Like Trotsky, most politicians are elite agents. The Tavistock Institute in London directs the elite's psychological warfare and social engineering. They cooked up second-wave feminism to destabilize society. According to Byron Weeks MD: "All Tavistock and American foundation techniques have a single goal, to break down the psychological strength of the individual and render him helpless to oppose the dictators of the World Order. Any technique which helps to break down the family unit, and the family inculcated principles of religion, honour, patriotism and sexual behaviour, is used by the Tavistock as weapons of crowd control." ... SUBVERSION OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS I don't enjoy being the bearer of bad tidings, but things have gone terribly wrong. Satanic forces have hijacked this planet. Of course, they are not going to tell you about it. The super-rich have more in common with each other than with you and me. We are "squatters" on their planet. United in secret societies, they have infiltrated and subverted our political, economic, cultural and religious institutions. They are waging a secret war on humanity and are responsible for the political and economic upheavals of the past 200 years including the slaughter of millions. The ultimate goal is to organize a weakened and reduced world population in an Orwellian police state. The attack on the World Trade Centre, the "War on Terror" and "Patriot Act" is really about this. So is feminism. The correct male reaction to feminist social subversion is to uphold rather than eschew the traditional vision of masculinity, marriage and family. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: <©> Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.02.04, 01:15 books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,6761,457988,00.html" Visualize See this image around you day and night, feel it flow, feel the power and know that you are One. Around your dwelling, around your body, around your office, etc. see a field of swirling energy. Breath deeply and it grows stronger, brighter as it circles around you. Maybe you picture a wall of holy fire, maybe pure energy of a certain color, let your feelings guide you. See it grow and rise rapidly, forming a column of energy that reaches high into the sky. You are a Universal Being, One with the Total Mind and Total Energy of the Universe, your power in this Oneness is truly unlimited! You and your column of powerful energy are now intimately connected to the ionosphere; energy flows back and forth between the earth's energy field and you, just like a free energy device. You have plugged in to global consciousness and the planetary system. Now, at the top of your column, the energy spreads out in all directions, racing through the ionosphere around the globe. See, imagine, feel your energy encompassing the globe until it is joined on the other side. Your field of conscious free energy surrounding the world, pulsing with life, now begins to rain energy droplets around the entire planet. You are now influencing everything in the earth's system with your energy shower. The rain of your free energy grows stronger as it brings all life, including the planet itself, to a higher vibration of freedom, collective freedom, which benefits all life. Your energy rain penetrates all life forms and matter. You are helping, changing, healing, loving, and freeing everything and everyone. Picture different areas around the world that you feel drawn to focus on, knowing at the same time you are also assisting the rest of the planet. Your universal free energy dissolves energy patterns that limit our freedom. Your mighty free energy is helping to free us from fear, hatred, violence, oppression, pollution, and mental, spiritual, and physical limitations. Know that you are magnificent, feel good because you are truly helping. Now imagine looking across the globe and seeing thousands of columns of human free energy rising into the sky from people just like you. These energy columns naturally form as people meditate, pray, and visualize world peace and freedom. Thousands, even millions of people are healing this planet and together our energy is so POWERFUL that we can celebrate in the evolution, knowing we are truly guided. Let's complete the circuit. Below the surface of the earth, a mighty free energy field pulsates in harmony with the ionosphere. This inner earth energy grid is below land surfaces and beneath bodies of water. Visualize this powerful grounding energy growing stronger, larger and seeping it's way to all surfaces. Even in the depths of the oceans this energy rises to heal the amazing life forms dwelling there. Maybe you picture "energy grass" or "energy vines" growing, maybe you see energy droplets raining upward. However you see it, imagine the energy penetrating all life forms and matter from below. As this energy flows into people, it grounds them, drawing all negative energy away from them. This steady, persistent grounding energy cleanses people, animals, plants, matter, technology, etc. Any negative energy, any fear, any hatred is drawn into the earth's fiery depths where it can be transmuted into neutral energy. As the grounding energy penetrates everything, it rises and unites with the energy rain from above. A sacred union occurs; the energies intermingle and coalesce to form a circulating energy path. As the ionosphere energy rains down, it cleanses everything in it’s path, and as the energy stream reaches the inner earth energy grid, all the negative energy is released into the interior earth for transmutation. The energy then rises again, pure in it’s state, back to the ionosphere where it mends and strengthens the planet’s energy field. The cycle repeats over and over, and our thoughts can amplify the intensity. The system is balancing, negative energy is being transmuted into positive free energy and the overall vibration of the planet is steadily increasing. The energy rims above and below are now balancing each other in perfect harmony. The flow increases and the planet grows brighter and more vibrant. With the system naturally flowing in this balance you may simply sit back and enjoy the perfection of the system. See the mightiness of the earth, the perfection of the flow. Observe the earth from outer space and see the magnificence of the Creator Force at work. Remember this, all the geophysical events that take place on the planet are the result of the earth and the larger system seeking balance and expanding consciousness. With your every breath, the energy grids magnify freedom and unconditional acceptance in every mind. When people think a thought of freedom or oneness or love on this planet, it is greatly magnified by our mighty energy grids. Feel the freedom! Feel the power! Feel the love! Feeling the HEALING! Thank you for helping, you are blessed!" )) zaczyna sie era wodnika .... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES 17.02.04, 07:39 Werid Nazi Green Utopia Builders www.geocities.com/carbonomics/MCtfirm/10tf25/10tf25c_f.html#06 www.geocities.com/carbonomics/MCtfirm/10tf00_f.html ---------------------- This Is Just to Say by William Carlos Williams I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold Thank you)) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES 17.02.04, 09:27 Ronson: "Because at Ruby Ridge, you know, the federal government acted just like the extremists expected them to. Ruby Ridge is where all conspiracy theories come true. ... But what I have put in is stuff about the weird symbiotic relationship between us and them. " Very smart guy But in some ways this last sentence could be false. "This stuff" is not about "us and them." It is about 'the werid relationship' between linear and non-linear thinking of humans (causal reasoning vs. probability calculus). Ruby Ridge represents a jumping point from linear concluding (cause and the reason) to un-ordered probability of events Mmmm. Linear prediction is a operation where future value is estimated as a linear function of previous samples. Now, take 'imaginary numbers.' In mathematics, an 'imaginary number' is a number whose square is negative. A complex number is the sum of a real number and an imaginary number. A complex number is that what people 'have on mind'. 'Imaginary numbers' - you may describe tham as 'potentialities' - they do not exist, in fact, but have a power to influence and interfere. And this is the most werid - that humans have the ability to get there)))))))) Sample Ruby Ridge in math: If you gather 23 persons in the room, the correct answer to the question concerning probability of 2 of them having the same date of birth is - higher than 0,5. "Liczby urojone są cudownym wzlotem Ducha Bożego; są one pomostem łączącym byt z niebytem." (nie pamiętam autora) ))) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
zupagrzybowa SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthing 17.02.04, 20:25 http://www.ephilosopher.com/phpBB_14-action-viewtopic-topic-202&36.html " Author Can we think about nothing? Kate skia Posts: 3 Posted: Jul 08, 2003 - 05:36 PM Try this: Close your eyes and imagine that there are three bubbles in front of you. Now pop the one on the left. Now pop the one on the right. Now pop the one in the middle. And for that moment when all the bubbles have been popped... what were you thinking of? A black space? A colour? For that second, are we thinking about nothing? sir_paco24 noesis Posts: 65 Posted: Jul 09, 2003 - 02:55 AM I think, but I'm not sure that meditation has as an objective to slow the mind down and ultimately, (among other things) to stop thinking. I guess it's possible randywombat noesis Posts: 193 Posted: Jul 09, 2003 - 10:02 AM What a curious thread. I have no idea how to approach it. I wonder if to think about nothing at all is to lose consciousness? randywombat noesis Posts: 193 Posted: Jul 09, 2003 - 10:03 AM I think Tinker Posts: 513 Posted: Jul 09, 2003 - 10:22 AM Hmmm, I think losing consciousness would qualify more as NOT thinking. Thinking about nothing implies thinking. I'm getting the same feeling with this concept as the thread where we discussed if consciousness could exists without memory - where I proposed the idea that without any history to build on, you can only have the spark, but not the flame of consciousness. Thinking about nothing, without any implications of what nothing means, without any comparison to thinking about something, and even without the realization that you are thinking about nothing, is the ultimate pursuit of Zen. (satori) and may be almost like the spark of thinking without actually following through. People who claim to have achieved that state say the very awareness that you have achieved it takes you out of it - which makes sense because you are now thinking about what you are doing, and that is thinking about something. It is best characterised by cute expressions like: "I'm there, wasn't I!" okokenough eikasia Posts: 23 Posted: Jul 11, 2003 - 10:19 PM Nope unless you want to die. You are always thinking if only subconciously. Your mind makes your heart beat and makes you breathe. edited by: okokenough, Jul 11, 2003 - 10:22 PM _________________ Many will read. None will reply. Hadess noesis Posts: 79 Posted: Jul 12, 2003 - 03:04 PM My God! What a hell are you talking about?!? Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are always thinking if only subconsciously. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK, if sending electrical impulses through nerves is considered thinking, then yes! But I doubt that is what we understand under this concept! About topic... we can try to thing about nothing.... Not sure it will ever happen! For thinking requires doing its job from some (one) object! Therefore we cannot get anymore further then thinking about something, for example, nothing... One will say, "That was the main point!"... Well, if the topic was "Can we think about something called nothing?", I would agree, but it seems to be different! My experience: One I tried to think in Russian... I'm not very good at it, so it was a bit hard, and at one moment I couldn't think anymore... and at that moment I stopped thinking and was aware of that! _________________ Can you feel my cold breath. Yes? Good... IlluSionS667 eikasia Posts: 23 Posted: Jul 12, 2003 - 08:06 PM okokenough eikasia Posts: 23 Posted: Jul 13, 2003 - 01:03 AM I am wrong again I see _________________ Many will read. None will reply. lemonparade4 dianoia Posts: 45 Posted: Jul 16, 2003 - 08:11 PM When you pop the three bubbles, you are merely thinking about the space where a minute before the bubbles had been. What you are thinking of is equivalent to thinking about a totally black (or any other color, depending on the previous "locations" of your bubbles) room that has nothing in it that you can see. Another small point... A better choice of words might have been prudent... Of course we can "think about nothing." I think what Sir Paco was asking was whether we can stop the thinking process altogether. I believe we can slow this process down to an infinitely small fraction of its original function, but, because imagination is a definintive human quality, we can't "shut it down" completely, lest we cease to become human... (the italicized clause of that statement was simply for emphasis...) _________________ Sartre said, "Hell is other people..." Could this be the reason so many of us flock to these forums that involve no visual contact whatsoever? Eternal_Seeker skia Posts: 1 Posted: Aug 02, 2003 - 09:07 PM Assume for a moment, that the point is to prove that we never think about nothing, or better phrased perhaps, we never for a moment cease to think. Then if you never cease to think, you would always have to have a thought in your mind constantly. Yet our thoughts are always changing, so I wonder, in the time between thinking about thought x and thought y, have we ceased to think for a fraction of a second? Before the mind conceives another thought? Also, what are we thinking about when we are staring off into space, "in the moon" so to speak? xanadu noesis Posts: 203 Posted: Aug 02, 2003 - 10:31 PM There are two ways to approach this, both interrelated: Thinking is not required for consciousness, but consciousness is needed for thought. 'Inner sense' or Introspection, is needed for what some called higher- order consciousness, or namely the sort of consciousness that only we humans posses (or so we like to think!) In order to introspect, it would be required of you to actually think. This entails language use, which is what has led many to assume language-use is necessary for consciousness. Maybe introspective consciousness, but certainly not all forms of consciousness. First, David Armstrong in his paper What Is Consciousness? laid out 3 categories of consciousness, Minimal Conciousness, Perceptual Conciousness, and Introspcetive Conciousness. Many others have done the same thing. Introspective consciousness might be called Intentional consciousness, i.e. we as higher- conscious beings are always thinking about an object, whatever it may be. Our (internal/introspective) consciousness is always focused on a thing, or conversely something is always the focus of our consciousness. Secondly, we can liken Perceptual consciousness to the phenomena one sometime experiences while driving long distances. Armstrong uses the truck driver example and it will suffice. When a truck driver is driving a long distance for many at night on a lonely stretches of road, he may suddenly 'come to' and realize he has just driven several hundred miles at top speed without being fully aware! This phenomena is not rare, and more than likely happens to us all in a variety of cases. My point being that, he was not at anytime 'thinking' in the sense we would use the word. One might argue "of course he was, but he cannot remember it" but that still does not lend any evidence to the premise that he must not have been conscious (if you feel it does then explain how the truck stayed its course and his foot applied the same amount of force to the gas pedal the entire time). So on some level, he is still conscious. He still perceives, but the previous conversion of the external to the internal is not going on (and unless you are a rabid follower of Freud, most will agree), and instead he expe Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthing 17.02.04, 20:34 Hhhahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Posted: Jul 09, 2003 - 10:02 AM What a curious thread. I have no idea how to approach it. I wonder if to think about nothing at all is to lose consciousness? randywombat noesis Jestes wart tyle zlota, ile wazysz. Oplulam monitor. a TERAZ WYJE. ps. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthingPost-Traumatic Gazette 18.02.04, 01:24 www.patiencepress.com/ At Patience Press you will find: Help for trauma surivors, war veterans, family members, friends and therapists. The normal effects of trauma (post-traumatic reactions) explained as survivor skills (they kept you alive) which over time may become big problems. See issue #1 of the Post-Traumatic Gazette How post-traumatic stress disorder affects family members, including me. See issue #2 How to get better. A wide variety of resources, because different people need different things. The perspective that it is normal to be affected by trauma, and it takes time to heal, and we heal in community. You can start alone (no reason not to) but finding support is a part of healing. This site is meant to be part of your support system. Hope. You did not deserve whatever you endured. You didn’t cause it even if other people blame you for it. It is normal to be affected by trauma, and you deserve to recover. Free for downloading: Sample issues of the Post-Traumatic Gazette, pamphlets and articles. Plus excerpts and samples of many of the books we sell at... Patience's online bookstore where you can buy everything Patience has written (book, pamphlets, all the back issues of the Post-Traumatic Gazette) as well as other books I find helpful through links to Amazon. pozdrawia drf Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
zupagrzybowa SAVEtheMALES.& ParaNO-YES & 'GUY-uh' 17.02.04, 20:01 www.intrepidsoftware.com/other/outdoors.php "But I was inspired when I learned about British scientist James Lovelock's Gaia Hypothesis (pronounced 'GUY-uh'), a bunch of scientific theories about the earth's biosphere (the plant and animal world) & upper atmosphere and how they work together to sustain our lives. The term 'Gaia' comes from the Greeks. Gaia was the name for the goddess of the Earth and it was one of James Lovelock's friends, Lynn Margolis, who suggested that he give this name to his theories. But then I learned that people were turning Gaia principles into a freakin' religion. That upset me at first because I'm not very fond of organized religions. But then later I thought maybe Gaia principles as part of a belief system might not be such a bad idea. We need a belief system that cares more deeply for the earth rather than assuming it has infinite resources. We're taxing it faster than it can renew itself. Many, like Dr. Ralph Metzner, have speculated that new emerging mythologies (the underpinnings of how we think) need to include a healthier appreciation for the earth. The current mythology seems to be that science can solve all our problems, and that the pollution created by all these solutions will also be solved by science. Philosopher Sam Keen calls this our myth of progress, the notion that we can continue progressing towords increasing states of bliss through technology. As much as I like science, this just isn't adding up. It seems that we can, however, progress out of poverty, and that is important. But beyond that the mind and body do not seem to be designed for increased states of comfort. For example, note the recent talk about exercise and diet. The true way to gain much, is never to desire to gain too much. He is not rich that possesses much, but he that covets no more; and he is not poor that enjoys little, but he that wants too much. Francis Beaumont (1584-1616) " www.etext.org/Religious.Texts/Gaia/ GAIA, THE PLANETARY RELIGION: THE SACRED MARRIAGE OF ART AND SCIENCE The Oral Defense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .262 The Internet Connection . . . . . . . . . . . . .265 The Global Network Academy. . . . . . . . . . . .270 The Architectural Plan of UU-GNA. . . . . . . . .275 The Suppressive Regime of UU-GNA. . . . . . . . .277 An Alternative: Neutopian Transversity . . . . .279 Student-Teacher Relationship. . . . . . . . . . .281 The Mission of Neutopian Transversity . . . . . .282 The Neutopian Administration. . . . . . . . . . .286 Architectural Plan of the Neutopian Transversity.287 The Neutopian Rituals . . . . . . . . . . . . . .290 =============================================================== "My own approach has been to try and seize various "net kooks" and their ideologies for myself, to take certain terms, push their ideology to absurdity and also try to mix in some serious thought in the mess. The "neu neu topian" movement has been flaring sparodically in alt.cyberspace for a couple months now and though it is in a low point (we are trying to integrate after success), fragments of interest to this group to remain. Check Paul Wolf, Glass, Paul Murphy, James McGowan, Earl Dombrowski and myself for relevant articles (though not all are relevant). Also look for threads containing "neu" and "buttons". Mythical organizations such as the "knight templar" and "Illuminati" along with various theories are all attempts to create pseudo idea systems which battle across the net. In regards to conventional "neutonians", you must divide into several subsets. The only "classical Neutopian" appears to be Libby Hubbard herself. If taken as a satirist (which I strongly suspect), she is at points brilliant and she does have a capacity to press certain "buttons". There are a number of unassociated people with an obsession about Libby who have been given a purpose in life by her ramblinga and finally there are the "monster truck neutopians." The quality of these people vary, though some are educated. A few weeks back, I attempted to engage them in a pseudo religious war with little response and finally silence. I'm afraid alt.society.neutopia has been disrupted by the event and a new force known as "Mother Foundress" has moved in to fill the vacuum. We are still evaluating the results of this experiment and the process is in a lull. Those in this alt.memetics who are interested in acting out actual events of idea conflict might create pseudo neutopian ideologies or anti neutopian ideologies and move them to alt.society.neutopia. We can then act out aspects of Minskys "society of minds". The cross posting of such threads is quite welcome in alt.cyberspace because a number of our readers don't get alt.society.neutopia. The goal is satire and absurdity with a serious edge. - Doctress Chen -" maxwell.lucifer.com/virus/alt.memetics/anti.neutopia.html Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
jenisiej SAVEtheWHALES 17.02.04, 22:18 Cachalot (sperm whale) - large whale with a large cavity in the head containing spermaceti and oil; also a source of ambergris. ________ One toothed whale, the sperm whale, sometimes known as a cachalot, is quite large: the male grows to a length of 18.3 m (60 ft), and the female grows to a length of 12.2 m (40 ft). It was heavily hunted in the past. ... These unusual sensory abilities of whales have given rise to considerable speculation as to their intelligence. Cetaceans, in fact, are the only animals (other than the elephant) to possess a brain larger than a human does. For example, the brain of an average adult sperm whale weighs 9 kg (20 lb); of an elephant, 4.5 kg (10 lb); of a bottle-nosed dolphin, 1.7 kg (3.75 lb); and of a human being, 1.35 kg (3 lb). The significance of this brain size in terms of intelligence, however, is not known. In captivity, whales and dolphins show considerable capacity for learning and a well-developed sense of play and caring for others; but because it is extremely difficult to observe cetaceans in their natural state, little is known of their social interaction and communication in the wild. Some species exist for the most part as solitary animals, whereas others occur in family groups or in pods or schools that range from six or seven to hundreds of individuals. Killer whales exhibit a high degree of cooperative hunting, an activity that would indicate active communication among pod members. Despite much popular writing about the cetacean "language" and attempts at human-cetacean communication, such claims remain unproved. ... Half of all whale species can be considered rare as opposed to endangered; that is, individuals of such species are not (and perhaps never were) very numerous. Many of the unusual beaked whales fall into this category. Most of the commercially valuable whale species, however, are indeed endangered. These include the blue, sei, Bryde's, fin, bowhead, humpback, and right whales and many stocks of sperm whales. They are endangered as a result of overhunting, to the point that the animals killed outnumber the animals being born. If unregulated whaling continues, these species will be wiped out entirely; the numbers of some of them are perhaps already so low that they can never recover. ... Whales can endanger themselves when they become stranded on beaches as they cannot live long out of water. They may overheat or drown when the tide comes in and covers their blowholes. It is not fully understood why whales swim on to beaches but it has been suggested that a failure in their echolocation signalling can be caused by disease or parasites in the whales' ears. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf Re: SAVEtheWHALES& Post-Traumatic Gazette 18.02.04, 01:52 PTSD: What It Is and How to Recover Text of First Issue of the Post-Traumatic Gazette ©1995 by Patience H. C. Mason. All rights reserved, except that permission is hereby granted to freely reproduce and distribute this document, provided the text is reproduced unaltered and entire (including this notice) and is distributed free of charge. STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: The Post-Traumatic Gazette is a newsletter for all trauma survivors, from veterans to rape victims, earthquake survivors to prisoners of war, their families, friends and therapists. It is dedicated to the idea of healing one day at a time from experiences which forever change a person's view of the world. This first issue is intended to set out a healing perspective on PTSD which has developed from my own experiences and from the work of respected professionals. In this perspective we see trauma as the problem, and PTSD reactions as creative and life-saving solutions to the problem of trauma. They worked. The survivor is alive. We believe it is normal to be affected by trauma, there is help, and it is okay to ask for help. PTSD is not rare. It is not unusual. It is not weak to have PTSD. It is normal to be affected by trauma. We can't repeat that too often. Traumatic experiences bring to the fore survival skills which are valuable and useful at the time of the trauma, but which usually become less valuable, less useful and less effective with time. We believe that survivors become stuck in problem behaviors when their pain is not acknowledged, heard, respected, and understood. Denial plays a great part here (didn't happen/ shouldn't affect you). Putdowns, dismissal of their pain, misdiagnosis and other forms of secondary wounding keep survivors stuck. Recovery is a slow process which doesn't come easily or painlessly. The survivor must be heard, feel understood, and reconnect to a community. The Gazette is aimed at helping to form such a community. Recovery takes time. The survivor sets the pace. Recovery is not a race, and recovery doesn't erase the trauma as if it had never happened. Trauma will always affect survivors. PTSD symptoms may come back under further stress, but the negative effects can be minimized as the survivor learns what they are and feels empowered to take care of him or herself. True healing is knowing it is okay to ask for help again. Rather than trying to put trauma behind us and forget it, I believe in another deeper kind of healing where we never forget, where we keep the memory alive of what happened to us and to others and we use our knowledge to keep traumatic things from happening to others. We also reach out, acknowledge the pain of other trauma survivors and encourage them to talk. We can make a difference. This perspective also emphasizes that survivors and family members and therapists are human and are doing the best they can. Recovery is about learning better ways and letting go of fear, even fear of change. Slow growth is good growth. This perspective differs from the sometimes still prevalent attitude that trauma couldn't affect a really well balanced person and also from the hurry up and get it all out so you can get well school of treatment. Respect for the survivor is implicit in this perspective. We don't rush survivors and we don't dismiss their pain. Instead of comparing pain, survivors and survivor groups are encouraged to respect each other's pain and to focus on what they have in common and to share recovery. Each person's unique experience and pain is respected. In this perspective we also acknowledge the pain of the families of trauma survivors which often develop ineffective patterns as they try to cope. We seek to create a caring community of people who have been affected by trauma and share information on how to heal one day at a time. The PTG would like to know what you--survivors, family, friends and therapists-- have found helpful in your recovery work. If you send in a letter that I publish, you will recieve a year's free subscription. I hope the PTG will be packed full of stuff which will be helpful to every reader. Other goals of the PTG are: To work towards a more scientific diagnosis of Post Traumatic reactions based on observation of what is traumatic and on all the trauma related behaviors of people who have been traumatized, To provide new information on the treatment of PTSD and up-to-date sources of good information on safe and effective help To illuminate the connection between PTSD and substance abuse and compulsive behavior. To raise public awareness of the epidemic of PTSD and it's enormous cost to society in rising rates of violence and substance abuse. To discuss implications of the intergenerational transmission of PTSD in professions, families and cultures. To develop public policies which will be helpful for trauma survivors. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.patiencepress.com/samples/1stIssue.html PS; Wyglada na to iz Trauma jest kolektywna.. pozdrawienia dla Helgi Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Zaproszenie 19.02.04, 17:49 dla drf jest w skrzyneczce. Zalecam waleriane najpierw, hihiiiiiiii. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
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patience Telus? 19.02.04, 00:05 Musisz sie poprawic. Porzadny antysemita sie tak nie zachowuje. "Zyklon" sie miesci jak najbardziej w twoim wizerunku, ale zaczepki celem nawiazania dialogu juz nie. Albo zyklonuj, albo dialoguj. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf Re: Telus? 19.02.04, 00:56 patience napisała: > Musisz sie poprawic. Porzadny antysemita sie tak nie zachowuje. "Zyklon" sie > miesci jak najbardziej w twoim wizerunku, ale zaczepki celem nawiazania dialogu > > juz nie. Albo zyklonuj, albo dialoguj. =========================================== Masz racje Helga , cos tu nie gra tylko co ? Jak na Naziste Telus ma zupelnie inne problemy... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: fight, flight and freeze 19.02.04, 07:48 Many trauma survivors appear to reenact their traumas, self-mutilating, getting themselves into the same type of trouble over and over, or doing to others what was done to them. These behaviors probably serve the same unconscious purpose of speaking the unspeakable. Symptoms may come on soon after the trauma or fifty years later. That is the post in PTSD. It is normal for symptoms to come up again in the face of further trauma and in times of high stress. It is normal to be affected by trauma. 17 % of the teenagers in Detroit have diagnosible PTSD according to one study. Mourning has five stages: Denial: is screaming "No! No!' at the time of the trauma. It is also "Never Happened!" and "Didn't affect me!" People can get stuck in denial for years. Rage: People get stuck in the rage stage, too, screaming and lashing out at everyone around them, or coldly angry and unable to change. Bargaining: Stuck bargaining includes veterans who will only get well if the VA gets perfect or if Nixon or Fonda goes to jail, the child abuse survivor who will only get well when patriarchy is gone, or the survivor who will only get better when he or she finds a perfect therapist. Sadness: The sadness stage is very difficult for most survivors because of our feelgood culture. Being sad is practically illegal. Sadness refused leads me to deep depression, but today if I start to feel depressed, I ask myself what do I need to feel sad about. If I can identify and feel it, I don't get depressed. Sadness needs to be felt. What happened to you was sad, painful, grevious. The only way out is through. Those feelings won't kill you. It is okay to grieve. Grief is part of life. Acceptance: The final stage. Yes this did happen. It was bad and it has affected me. I have a scar, but I survived. In time, I may be able to use my experiences to help other survivors. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf Re: IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 00:41 Gość portalu: fj napisał(a): > jude psie ryje !!!! > > zyklonem zbirow poczestuje u mnie 'na przyjeciu' ====================================================== No coz teraz jestes soba... szczekasz jak maly lepperek... a tak prywatnie musisz mnie lubic ,skoro sie za mna od lat uganiasz... ======================================================================= Chcesz porozmawiac na serio ? Co ci te zydy zrobily ? drf Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf Telusiu !Twoj repertuar intelektualny wskazuje na 19.02.04, 02:24 powazne uszkodzenie umyslu... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
sanatorium_psychiatryczne JAK ROZPOZNAWAC UFOLI ? 19.02.04, 02:39 UFOnauci maja brzydki zwyczaj wysylania na Ziemie swoich szpiegow i sabotazystow. Szpiedzy ci mieszaja sie z ludzmi i zbieraja dane o naszej cywilizacji, aby potem moc lepiej nas eksploatowac. Aczkolwiek az kilka odmiennych ras UFOnautow wysyla na Ziemie swoich szpiegow, najczesciej mozna spotkac szpiegow i sabotazystow z rasy UFOnautow ktora jest najbardziej z nami pokrewna, a stad najbardziej podobna do ludzi. UFOnauci tej rasy sa niemal jak my - ktos moze z nimi rozmawiac lub nawet sie przyjaznic i wcale nie wiedziec ze ma do czynienia z UFOlem. -- ufonauci.w.interia.pl/ © Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: mis kolargol zyd ze szwecji IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 02:54 autor watku: 4_4_4_4_4_4_4_ lub ________________________________, lub @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ MOWI O INTELEKCIE !!!!!!!! Kretynie pejsiasty, slyszales kiedys taka angielska maxime : "Never underestimate your enemy" ? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
sanatorium_psychiatryczne BARANOICZNY YNTELEKTUALISTO ... 19.02.04, 03:20 Mescy UFOnauci faktycznie sa impotentami i aby odbywac stosunki seksualne, w swoich penisach musza nosic specjalne struktury usztywniajace. Ich impotencja wynika z owego niskiego poziomu ich uczuc (tj. nie sa w stanie osiagnac owego wysokiego poziomu podniecenia jaki dostepny jest dla ludzi). Jej opis rowniez zawarty jest w owych podrozdzialach M9.5 i E7.1 z [8]. Owa plastykowa struktura usztywniajaca zawarta w penisach UFOnautow odczuwana jest przez gwalcone przez nich ziemskie kobiety jak rodzaj zimnej chrzastkowej rurki. 6. UFOnauci brutalnie eksploatuja i okradaja ludzi na tysiace odmiennych sposobow. Przykladowo, od kazdej osoby na Ziemi rabuja oni szczegolny rodzaj energii, zwany energia zyciowa. Opis specjalnej komory zimna za pomoca jakiej owo rabowanie energii zyciowej od ludzi sie odbywa, przytoczony jest w traktacie [3b]. Od kazdej tez osoby na Ziemi rabuja oni sperme i owule. Potem z owej spermy i owule przemyslowo klonuja oni swoich sluzacych i robotnikow zwanych biorobotami. Podczas rabowania ludzkiej spermy i owule, zwykle tez gwalca swoje ofiary. Praktycznie to niemal kazda osoba na Ziemi jest gwalcona przez UFOnautow na jakims etapie swojego zycia. Jak rozpoznac ze pada sie ofiara owych gwaltow opisane jest w owym podrozdziale U3.7.1 z tomu 15 monografii [1/4]. 7. Obecnosc niewidzialnych UFOnautow we wlasnym mieszkaniu daje sie wykryc np. za pomoca zwyklego pilota do telewizora. Metody i sposoby odkrywania nalotu niewidzialnych UFOnautow na nasze mieszkanie opisane sa w podrozdziale U3.8 tomu 15 monografii [1/4], oraz w podrozdziale E6 tomu 4 monografii [8]. ufonauci.w.interia.pl/ ========================================================== NEVER OVERSTIMULATE YOUR ENEMY Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: mis puchatek Gdyby II WS,zakonczyla sie w 1947, Delphinarium... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 03:01 rzezi w Delphinarium by nawet nie bylo. Nie byloby zamachow na autobusy w izraelu, nie byloby palestynskich zamachowcow. Malo tego, Hamas nawet by nie istnial. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
sanatorium_psychiatryczne Re: Gdyby II WS,zakonczyla sie w 1947, Delphinari 19.02.04, 03:37 GDYBY ...ADOLF SZTICKELGRUBER HITLER dostal prace jako scenarzysta opery wiedenskiej a SOSO DJUGASHVILI skonczyl seminarium duchowne w Gruzji ... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
sanatorium_psychiatryczne ALTERNATYWNA HISTORIA 19.02.04, 04:15 www.ahtg.net/alterframe.html" Sir! I'm no New Aryan but I have to add these small comments to your Hitler as Artist page. I met 'der fuhrer' about three years before his famous suicide. The Eagle's Nest was the product of his final commercial success. It was a grand , imposing, and (to this observer) sterile architectural schema conceived by one of his late lovers...(Speer?). I was, none the less, moved by the mans very presence. He had that unsmiling seriousness that comes from either true genius or true psychosis. Judging from his suicide and his contributions to the arts its likely a combination of the two. I addressed him formally as 'Der Furher!' and he barely showed evidence of my presence. I then told him, 'Sir! Your works have caused and uproar in Bavaria and now I will speak to you as a Bavarian!' His eyes flashed and he turned to me with that hard gaze that has melted many a pretentious young bourgeois girls heart but then it softened and he invited me in to his study for coffee and cakes. His constitution by that time was weak. Its amazing to say but he ate only nuts and a salad while I guzzled good German coffee and chocolates. He smiled frequently, a twinkle in his eye and admitted that he understood the common mood. 'Herr Beethoven knew how to move a crowd too' he said, 'I make love to the people, they are like a women, I give them what they want and...', he paused and looked lovingly on his famous 'Kristallnacht' painting...'they give me what I want!' He finished with a sigh of almost sexual release. 'You see, I find the masses horrid. They know only sheer emotion, sheer terror. But terror has its uses... yes... its uses. I can tell you that a true artist knows how the crowd thinks. What the crowd believes on an unconscious level and...' he sipped at some English Tea here, ' and the true artist knows how to satisfy the crowd, make the crowd scream for more and keep coming back to the only lover that can satisfy!' Why did Hitler confide these things to me, a Bavarian chicken farmer? I suspect he saw in me the appreciation for his 'world view' as the Americans put it. Someone who knew what he intended and could make it happen, could carry out the ultimate end, the master stroke, the final solution if you will of his grand schemes that came from the tortured soul of one who knew suffering as no effeminate Hemingway every did. When Mein Furher took his life I felt a part of myself die. You don't know the power or the passion of the man or his great plans. Having met him I feel as if something is missing now that he has left us. What might have been? What glory could have been? Alas the once Germanic neighborhood I returned to has become a gathering for the filthy Slavic Hordes. I return to my chickens, a wiser but sadder man for having met the one man who could have made a real difference in the world. Imagine there's no heaven and we must live in the hell of his absence! I still have one of his last works. The bold "Band Of Brothers!' painting with its steely eyed young men, the eye of the beast in them ,with the breathtaking black and silver double lightning bolts behind them, marching to a new war that never happened, avenging the losses of the Great War and making a New Germany. Alas, all we have now is the memories. What could have been! Yours Very Truly, Heinrich Himmler 66 Swatchstrasse Ravensbruck " Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
drf Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 09:32 Posluchaj Przemysl i Odpowiedz =========================================== www.ncptsd.org/video/rm_5k/sg_speech.rm www.ncptsd.org/video/rm_5k/hope_for_recovery.rm www.ncptsd.org/video/sat_change.html www.ncptsd.org/video/sat_trauma.html =============================================== Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: PILES Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 09:39 sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 09:46 Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a): > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram. > Otworzysz. It takes time. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: misio peesio Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 09:51 patience napisała: > Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a): > > > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram. > > > Otworzysz. It takes time --------------------------------- nie otwieram nigdy linkow do multimedia.NIGDY. inne linki, owszem , czasami, ale bardzo rzadko, i jesli juz to tylko od osob ktorym ufam. a wam swinskie ryje nie musze chyba mowic co o was mysle. DEATH TO FUCKING ZIONIST SCUMBAGS Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 13:48 Gość portalu: misio peesio napisał(a): > patience napisała: > > > Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a): > > > > > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram. > > > > > Otworzysz. It takes time > --------------------------------- > > nie otwieram nigdy linkow do multimedia.NIGDY. > > inne linki, owszem , czasami, ale bardzo rzadko, i jesli juz to tylko od osob > ktorym ufam. a wam swinskie ryje nie musze chyba mowic co o was mysle. > > DEATH TO FUCKING ZIONIST SCUMBAGS Przynajmniej bys nie wybrzydzal. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: FRIEND OF HAMAS RADIOAKTYWNY SZTORM ZALEJE LATRYNE izrael IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 16:29 po sztormie zydy beda sie swiecic jak lampki na choince Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: drf Lękasz się więc że TEN SZTORM zakończy NASZE IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 16:55 Re: RADIOAKTYWNY SZTORM ZALEJE LATRYNE izrael Gość portalu: FRIEND OF HAMAS napisał(a): > po sztormie zydy beda sie swiecic jak lampki na choince ======================================================== Lękasz się więc że TEN SZTORM zakończy NASZE życie . Twoje i Moje i TO FORUM ...? Ja tez sie tego obawiam... Nie mozna sie ciagle czegos bac , trzeba miec tez jakies pozytywne mozliwosci.. Dla rownowagi...Nieprawda ? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: LONG LIVE HAMAS Wdziek i Podziekowanie dla bohaterow Hamas IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 17:13 ZA WOLNOSC WASZA I NASZA Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: LONG LIVE CIA Amerykanie moga cie potraktowac na serio ..;( IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 17:25 z drugiej strony podziwiam twoja odwage cywilna determinacje w walce i wytwalosc mimo iz jestes moim wrogiem ZA WOLNOSC OD STRACHU ! drf Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: dedjus Amerykanie moga pocalowc mnie w pupe IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 17:37 Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: drf ok... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 17:46 w koncu doszlismy do celu... ide teraz na przechadzke... do uslyszenia drfZydSzwedzki Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: IMU LIFE ISRAEL LIFE IS*REAL IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 20:27 ©BLESSOMEBODY Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: WORLD IS*RAEL I AM IS*REALIST IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 23:02 IDD-ISH Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: CIEMNE 20.02.04, 09:43 Gość portalu: 666 napisał(a): > LUCYFER ... piwo w skrzynce. Aniolek Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience PRZEGRALES Z KRETESEM 20.02.04, 13:14 KONKURENCJE Z JOZEFEM ZAWADZKIM. NAGRODE POCIESZENIA WYMYSLIMY POZNIEJ. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: drf CA NADA HOW R U ??? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 13:25 helga cie lubi ludzie sa rozni zawadzki jest polRoku a TY misiu jestes od niego starszy i powazniejszy z michnikiem nie zadzierasz tylko jestes SOBA to nie jest konkurs z nagrodami prawda ? zawadzki jaroslawianin a ty z queBecku ? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
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Gość: reBe666 i to bylo na SZAbes ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 16:09 a gdzie BLOgoSLAWIEnstWA ? Brahe odwalaj jak TRZRZEBA !!! czegom cie od lat ucze ??? POkoRY !!! Ty na wieki zostaniesz MOIM antySEmitem...))) NieCH Bedzie PochwalONy !!! zaraz zapadnie zmrok... lepszy jestes niz zawadzki... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience MIX CEDREFS UNIVERSALIS 20.02.04, 17:52 I. MIX forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10838840&a=10895524 II. MIX CEDREFS UNIVERSALIS forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10838840&a=10896267 Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: drf Q nada? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.02.04, 02:19 bejsment ci zalalo ? krew cie zalewa? wojo krzywo na cie patrzy? sasiad omija? =========================== wniosek cierpisz na nadmiar wolnosci !!! wyboru rodzajow mydla...czy gatunkow skory... LEKARSTWO ROZWOLNOSCI GnoisieSzybkoPlynnieiWduzychIlosciach...)) ochomikach.w.interia.pl/biegunka.htm Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
jenisiej --------------------------2500-------------------- 20.02.04, 20:47 Ha! pozdro jeni Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
patience Re: --------------------------2501--------------- 20.02.04, 23:44 No niestety. Byles szybszy Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: <©> --------------------}3Ci3D{------------------ IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 01:52 }3©D3 }comandControlCenter }Dim3iD3TIME3 }model01PROtoTyP }inteGraly,potNcja,omniP,silnia!!! }3NiXeny#3MiXniki#3ZWCKIprdx }c.b.d.o }tunelSierpinskiego-Helgi.Drf.Ceska...vecToR Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: hi_men : --------------------}3Ci3D{------------------: IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 02:21 nsb.ptc.pl/~mce/jaro/tok.htm HOW R U ? 2DAY ? dRf good_morning !-) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: JOZEK (reMIS) IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 03:06 dedjus_inbeysmnt 3Ci3D-: hi_men• Re: miss--}3Ci3D : - • BUDABELZYD*ISRaELfUCKsU •YEbAL 4444444 kg PRO TEST CZLO=Z=Y=D.OW=WIEK=PIES XENO ? helga co to oZnacza w Twojej TeOrii ? zwcki=telus? co na to ces? jenisiej? mixnik? Mosad i MoCzar ? nsb.ptc.pl/~mce/jaro/tok.htm Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: * *©*©* * H:.:|V|.:.R IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 18:43 Waves crashing on a beach. Woodpeckers peck-peck pecking. Whales calling plaintively across the sea. These are the sounds of Jupiter. science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/images/radiostorms/audio/story.m3u Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: . ZDECYDOWANIE ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 20:52 informacje specjalne ========================== wysylaj na titta@chello.se Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: SAD WPADLES;) IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 22:36 jestes w sieci ... )) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Justitia w procesie przeciwko dedjusowi IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 22:49 wszeto sledztwo... sedziaSaduNajwyzszegoForum:alef1 ================================= info dla: scana jeni cesa helgi jozka polecenie dla giwi : ip ,interPol ................................... koniec informacji dedjus: it'real ! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
alef1 kontrola de dj usa 21.02.04, 23:07 pan jeni zawezwany jako expert specjalny ---------------------------------------- * Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
jenisiej Re: kontrola de dj usa 22.02.04, 15:43 alef1 napisał: > pan jeni zawezwany jako expert specjalny > ---------------------------------------- forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10885672&a=10923314 pozdro Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś