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    • patience SAVEtheMALES.ca 16.02.04, 05:28
      WHAT IS FEMINISM?

      We are not taught history for a good reason. Feminism today is Communism.
      Communism was never a Russian-based revolt of the working class. It was always
      an elite mechanism to control the common man and establish world dictatorship.
      Leon Trotsky played chess with Baron Rothschild at Cafe Central in Vienna
      before going on to lead the Bolshevik Revolution. (Joseph Nedava, Trotsky and
      the Jews, 1972, p.36) Like Trotsky, most politicians are elite agents.

      The Tavistock Institute in London directs the elite's psychological warfare and
      social engineering. They cooked up second-wave feminism to destabilize society.

      According to Byron Weeks MD:

      "All Tavistock and American foundation techniques have a single goal, to break
      down the psychological strength of the individual and render him helpless to
      oppose the dictators of the World Order. Any technique which helps to break
      down the family unit, and the family inculcated principles of religion, honour,
      patriotism and sexual behaviour, is used by the Tavistock as weapons of crowd
      control."
      ...

      SUBVERSION OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS

      I don't enjoy being the bearer of bad tidings, but things have gone terribly
      wrong. Satanic forces have hijacked this planet. Of course, they are not going
      to tell you about it.

      The super-rich have more in common with each other than with you and me. We
      are "squatters" on their planet. United in secret societies, they have
      infiltrated and subverted our political, economic, cultural and religious
      institutions.

      They are waging a secret war on humanity and are responsible for the political
      and economic upheavals of the past 200 years including the slaughter of
      millions.

      The ultimate goal is to organize a weakened and reduced world population in an
      Orwellian police state. The attack on the World Trade Centre, the "War on
      Terror" and "Patriot Act" is really about this.

      So is feminism. The correct male reaction to feminist social subversion is to
      uphold rather than eschew the traditional vision of masculinity, marriage and
      family.

      wink
      • Gość: <©> Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 17.02.04, 01:15
        books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,6761,457988,00.html"
        Visualize


        See this image around you day and night, feel it flow, feel the power and know
        that you are One. Around your dwelling, around your body, around your office,
        etc. see a field of swirling energy. Breath deeply and it grows stronger,
        brighter as it circles around you. Maybe you picture a wall of holy fire, maybe
        pure energy of a certain color, let your feelings guide you. See it grow and
        rise rapidly, forming a column of energy that reaches high into the sky.

        You are a Universal Being, One with the Total Mind and Total Energy of the
        Universe, your power in this Oneness is truly unlimited! You and your column of
        powerful energy are now intimately connected to the ionosphere; energy flows
        back and forth between the earth's energy field and you, just like a free
        energy device. You have plugged in to global consciousness and the planetary
        system.

        Now, at the top of your column, the energy spreads out in all directions,
        racing through the ionosphere around the globe. See, imagine, feel your energy
        encompassing the globe until it is joined on the other side.

        Your field of conscious free energy surrounding the world, pulsing with life,
        now begins to rain energy droplets around the entire planet. You are now
        influencing everything in the earth's system with your energy shower.

        The rain of your free energy grows stronger as it brings all life, including
        the planet itself, to a higher vibration of freedom, collective freedom, which
        benefits all life.

        Your energy rain penetrates all life forms and matter. You are helping,
        changing, healing, loving, and freeing everything and everyone. Picture
        different areas around the world that you feel drawn to focus on, knowing at
        the same time you are also assisting the rest of the planet.

        Your universal free energy dissolves energy patterns that limit our freedom.
        Your mighty free energy is helping to free us from fear, hatred, violence,
        oppression, pollution, and mental, spiritual, and physical limitations. Know
        that you are magnificent, feel good because you are truly helping.

        Now imagine looking across the globe and seeing thousands of columns of human
        free energy rising into the sky from people just like you. These energy columns
        naturally form as people meditate, pray, and visualize world peace and freedom.
        Thousands, even millions of people are healing this planet and together our
        energy is so POWERFUL that we can celebrate in the evolution, knowing we are
        truly guided.

        Let's complete the circuit. Below the surface of the earth, a mighty free
        energy field pulsates in harmony with the ionosphere. This inner earth
        energy grid is below land surfaces and beneath bodies of water. Visualize this
        powerful grounding energy growing stronger, larger and seeping it's way to all
        surfaces. Even in the depths of the oceans this energy rises to heal the
        amazing life forms dwelling there. Maybe you picture "energy grass" or "energy
        vines" growing, maybe you see energy droplets raining upward. However you see
        it, imagine the energy penetrating all life forms and matter from below.

        As this energy flows into people, it grounds them, drawing all negative energy
        away from them. This steady, persistent grounding energy cleanses people,
        animals, plants, matter, technology, etc. Any negative energy, any fear, any
        hatred is drawn into the earth's fiery depths where it can be transmuted into
        neutral energy. As the grounding energy penetrates everything, it rises and
        unites with the energy rain from above.

        A sacred union occurs; the energies intermingle and coalesce to form a
        circulating energy path. As the ionosphere energy rains down, it cleanses
        everything in it’s path, and as the energy stream reaches the inner earth
        energy grid, all the negative energy is released into the interior earth for
        transmutation. The energy then rises again, pure in it’s state, back to the
        ionosphere where it mends and strengthens the planet’s energy field. The cycle
        repeats over and over, and our thoughts can amplify the intensity. The system
        is balancing, negative energy is being transmuted into positive free energy and
        the overall vibration of the planet is steadily increasing. The energy rims
        above and below are now balancing each other in perfect harmony. The flow
        increases and the planet grows brighter and more vibrant. With the system
        naturally flowing in this balance you may simply sit back and enjoy the
        perfection of the system. See the mightiness of the earth, the perfection of
        the flow. Observe the earth from outer space and see the magnificence of the
        Creator Force at work.

        Remember this, all the geophysical events that take place on the planet are the
        result of the earth and the larger system seeking balance and expanding
        consciousness.

        With your every breath, the energy grids magnify freedom and unconditional
        acceptance in every mind. When people think a thought of freedom or oneness or
        love on this planet, it is greatly magnified by our mighty energy grids. Feel
        the freedom! Feel the power! Feel the love! Feeling the HEALING!

        Thank you for helping, you are blessed!"

        wink))

        zaczyna sie era wodnika ....


        • patience Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES 17.02.04, 07:39
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          This Is Just to Say
          by William Carlos Williams

          I have eaten
          the plums
          that were in
          the icebox

          and which
          you were probably
          saving
          for breakfast

          Forgive me
          they were delicious
          so sweet
          and so cold

          Thank yousmile))
          • patience Re: SAVEtheMALES.ca & ParaNO-YES 17.02.04, 09:27
            Ronson: "Because at Ruby Ridge, you know, the federal government acted just
            like the extremists expected them to. Ruby Ridge is where all conspiracy
            theories come true. ... But what I have put in is stuff about the weird
            symbiotic relationship between us and them. "

            Very smart guysmile But in some ways this last sentence could be false. "This
            stuff" is not about "us and them." It is about 'the werid relationship'smile
            between linear and non-linear thinking of humans (causal reasoning vs.
            probability calculus). Ruby Ridge represents a jumping point from linear
            concluding (cause and the reason) to un-ordered probability of eventssmile

            Mmmm. Linear prediction is a operation where future value is estimated as a
            linear function of previous samples. Now, take 'imaginary numbers.' In
            mathematics, an 'imaginary number' is a number whose square is negative. A
            complex number is the sum of a real number and an imaginary number. A complex
            number is that what people 'have on mind'. 'Imaginary numbers' - you may
            describe tham as 'potentialities' - they do not exist, in fact, but have a
            power to influence and interfere. And this is the most werid - that humans have
            the ability to get theresmile))))))))

            Sample Ruby Ridge in math:
            If you gather 23 persons in the room, the correct answer to the question
            concerning probability of 2 of them having the same date of birth is - higher
            than 0,5.smile

            "Liczby urojone są cudownym wzlotem Ducha Bożego; są one pomostem łączącym byt
            z niebytem." (nie pamiętam autora)

            smile)))
            • zupagrzybowa SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthing 17.02.04, 20:25
              http://www.ephilosopher.com/phpBB_14-action-viewtopic-topic-202&36.html
              "
              Author Can we think about nothing?
              Kate

              skia

              Posts: 3
              Posted:
              Jul 08, 2003 - 05:36 PM
              Try this:

              Close your eyes and imagine that there are three bubbles in front of you. Now
              pop the one on the left. Now pop the one on the right. Now pop the one in the
              middle. And for that moment when all the bubbles have been popped... what were
              you thinking of? A black space? A colour? For that second, are we thinking
              about nothing?

              sir_paco24

              noesis

              Posts: 65
              Posted:
              Jul 09, 2003 - 02:55 AM
              I think, but I'm not sure that meditation has as an objective to slow the mind
              down and ultimately, (among other things) to stop thinking.

              I guess it's possible



              randywombat

              noesis

              Posts: 193
              Posted:
              Jul 09, 2003 - 10:02 AM
              What a curious thread. I have no idea how to approach it.

              I wonder if to think about nothing at all is to lose consciousness?

              randywombat

              noesis

              Posts: 193
              Posted:
              Jul 09, 2003 - 10:03 AM
              I think

              Tinker

              Posts: 513
              Posted:
              Jul 09, 2003 - 10:22 AM
              Hmmm, I think losing consciousness would qualify more as NOT thinking.
              Thinking about nothing implies thinking.

              I'm getting the same feeling with this concept as the thread where we discussed
              if consciousness could exists without memory - where I proposed the idea that
              without any history to build on, you can only have the spark, but not the flame
              of consciousness. Thinking about nothing, without any implications of what
              nothing means, without any comparison to thinking about something, and even
              without the realization that you are thinking about nothing, is the ultimate
              pursuit of Zen. (satori) and may be almost like the spark of thinking without
              actually following through.

              People who claim to have achieved that state say the very awareness that you
              have achieved it takes you out of it - which makes sense because you are now
              thinking about what you are doing, and that is thinking about something. It is
              best characterised by cute expressions like:

              "I'm there, wasn't I!"



              okokenough

              eikasia

              Posts: 23
              Posted:
              Jul 11, 2003 - 10:19 PM
              Nope unless you want to die. You are always thinking if only subconciously.
              Your mind makes your heart beat and makes you breathe.

              edited by: okokenough, Jul 11, 2003 - 10:22 PM
              _________________
              Many will read. None will reply.

              Hadess

              noesis

              Posts: 79
              Posted:
              Jul 12, 2003 - 03:04 PM
              My God! What a hell are you talking about?!?
              Quote:
              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              You are always thinking if only subconsciously.

              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


              OK, if sending electrical impulses through nerves is considered thinking, then
              yes! But I doubt that is what we understand under this concept!

              About topic... we can try to thing about nothing.... Not sure it will ever
              happen! For thinking requires doing its job from some (one) object! Therefore
              we cannot get anymore further then thinking about something, for example,
              nothing...
              One will say, "That was the main point!"... Well, if the topic was "Can we
              think about something called nothing?", I would agree, but it seems to be
              different!

              My experience:
              One I tried to think in Russian... I'm not very good at it, so it was a bit
              hard, and at one moment I couldn't think anymore... and at that moment I
              stopped thinking and was aware of that!

              _________________
              Can you feel my cold breath. Yes? Good...

              IlluSionS667

              eikasia

              Posts: 23
              Posted:
              Jul 12, 2003 - 08:06 PM










              okokenough

              eikasia

              Posts: 23
              Posted:
              Jul 13, 2003 - 01:03 AM
              I am wrong again I see
              _________________
              Many will read. None will reply.

              lemonparade4

              dianoia

              Posts: 45
              Posted:
              Jul 16, 2003 - 08:11 PM
              When you pop the three bubbles, you are merely thinking about the space where
              a minute before the bubbles had been. What you are thinking of is equivalent to
              thinking about a totally black (or any other color, depending on the
              previous "locations" of your bubbles) room that has nothing in it that you can
              see.

              Another small point... A better choice of words might have been prudent...

              Of course we can "think about nothing." I think what Sir Paco was asking was
              whether we can stop the thinking process altogether. I believe we can slow this
              process down to an infinitely small fraction of its original function, but,
              because imagination is a definintive human quality, we can't "shut it down"
              completely, lest we cease to become human... (the italicized clause of that
              statement was simply for emphasis...)
              _________________
              Sartre said, "Hell is other people..." Could this be the reason so many of us
              flock to these forums that involve no visual contact whatsoever?

              Eternal_Seeker

              skia

              Posts: 1
              Posted:
              Aug 02, 2003 - 09:07 PM
              Assume for a moment, that the point is to prove that we never think about
              nothing, or better phrased perhaps, we never for a moment cease to think. Then
              if you never cease to think, you would always have to have a thought in your
              mind constantly. Yet our thoughts are always changing, so I wonder, in the time
              between thinking about thought x and thought y, have we ceased to think for a
              fraction of a second? Before the mind conceives another thought?

              Also, what are we thinking about when we are staring off into space, "in the
              moon" so to speak?

              xanadu

              noesis

              Posts: 203
              Posted:
              Aug 02, 2003 - 10:31 PM
              There are two ways to approach this, both interrelated:

              Thinking is not required for consciousness, but consciousness is needed for
              thought. 'Inner sense' or Introspection, is needed for what some called higher-
              order consciousness, or namely the sort of consciousness that only we humans
              posses (or so we like to think!) In order to introspect, it would be required
              of you to actually think. This entails language use, which is what has led many
              to assume language-use is necessary for consciousness. Maybe introspective
              consciousness, but certainly not all forms of consciousness.

              First, David Armstrong in his paper What Is Consciousness? laid out 3
              categories of consciousness, Minimal Conciousness, Perceptual Conciousness, and
              Introspcetive Conciousness. Many others have done the same thing. Introspective
              consciousness might be called Intentional consciousness, i.e. we as higher-
              conscious beings are always thinking about an object, whatever it may be. Our
              (internal/introspective) consciousness is always focused on a thing, or
              conversely something is always the focus of our consciousness.

              Secondly, we can liken Perceptual consciousness to the phenomena one sometime
              experiences while driving long distances. Armstrong uses the truck driver
              example and it will suffice. When a truck driver is driving a long distance for
              many at night on a lonely stretches of road, he may suddenly 'come to' and
              realize he has just driven several hundred miles at top speed without being
              fully aware!

              This phenomena is not rare, and more than likely happens to us all in a variety
              of cases. My point being that, he was not at anytime 'thinking' in the sense we
              would use the word. One might argue "of course he was, but he cannot remember
              it" but that still does not lend any evidence to the premise that he must not
              have been conscious (if you feel it does then explain how the truck stayed its
              course and his foot applied the same amount of force to the gas pedal the
              entire time).

              So on some level, he is still conscious. He still perceives, but the previous
              conversion of the external to the internal is not going on (and unless you are
              a rabid follower of Freud, most will agree), and instead he expe
              • patience Re: SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthing 17.02.04, 20:34
                Hhhahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

                Posted:
                Jul 09, 2003 - 10:02 AM
                What a curious thread. I have no idea how to approach it.

                I wonder if to think about nothing at all is to lose consciousness?

                randywombat

                noesis


                Jestes wart tyle zlota, ile wazysz. Oplulam monitor. a TERAZ WYJE.

                ps.
                • drf SAVEtheMALESparaNOyesNOthingPost-Traumatic Gazette 18.02.04, 01:24
                  www.patiencepress.com/
                  At Patience Press you will find:

                  Help for trauma surivors, war veterans, family members, friends and
                  therapists.
                  The normal effects of trauma (post-traumatic reactions) explained as survivor
                  skills (they kept you alive) which over time may become big problems. See issue
                  #1 of the Post-Traumatic Gazette
                  How post-traumatic stress disorder affects family members, including me. See
                  issue #2
                  How to get better. A wide variety of resources, because different people need
                  different things.
                  The perspective that it is normal to be affected by trauma, and it takes time
                  to heal, and we heal in community. You can start alone (no reason not to) but
                  finding support is a part of healing. This site is meant to be part of your
                  support system.
                  Hope. You did not deserve whatever you endured. You didn’t cause it even if
                  other people blame you for it. It is normal to be affected by trauma, and you
                  deserve to recover.
                  Free for downloading: Sample issues of the Post-Traumatic Gazette, pamphlets
                  and articles. Plus excerpts and samples of many of the books we sell at...
                  Patience's online bookstore where you can buy everything Patience has written
                  (book, pamphlets, all the back issues of the Post-Traumatic Gazette) as well as
                  other books I find helpful through links to Amazon.
                  wink

                  pozdrawia
                  drf
          • zupagrzybowa SAVEtheMALES.& ParaNO-YES & 'GUY-uh' 17.02.04, 20:01
            www.intrepidsoftware.com/other/outdoors.php
            "But I was inspired when I learned about British scientist James Lovelock's
            Gaia Hypothesis (pronounced 'GUY-uh'), a bunch of scientific theories about the
            earth's biosphere (the plant and animal world) & upper atmosphere and how they
            work together to sustain our lives. The term 'Gaia' comes from the Greeks. Gaia
            was the name for the goddess of the Earth and it was one of James Lovelock's
            friends, Lynn Margolis, who suggested that he give this name to his theories.
            But then I learned that people were turning Gaia principles into a freakin'
            religion. That upset me at first because I'm not very fond of organized
            religions. But then later I thought maybe Gaia principles as part of a belief
            system might not be such a bad idea. We need a belief system that cares more
            deeply for the earth rather than assuming it has infinite resources. We're
            taxing it faster than it can renew itself. Many, like Dr. Ralph Metzner, have
            speculated that new emerging mythologies (the underpinnings of how we think)
            need to include a healthier appreciation for the earth. The current mythology
            seems to be that science can solve all our problems, and that the pollution
            created by all these solutions will also be solved by science. Philosopher Sam
            Keen calls this our myth of progress, the notion that we can continue
            progressing towords increasing states of bliss through technology. As much as I
            like science, this just isn't adding up. It seems that we can, however,
            progress out of poverty, and that is important. But beyond that the mind and
            body do not seem to be designed for increased states of comfort. For example,
            note the recent talk about exercise and diet.

            The true way to gain much, is never to desire to gain too much. He is not rich
            that possesses much, but he that covets no more; and he is not poor that enjoys
            little, but he that wants too much.
            Francis Beaumont (1584-1616) "

            www.etext.org/Religious.Texts/Gaia/
            GAIA, THE PLANETARY RELIGION:
            THE SACRED MARRIAGE OF ART AND SCIENCE
            The Oral Defense. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .262
            The Internet Connection . . . . . . . . . . . . .265
            The Global Network Academy. . . . . . . . . . . .270
            The Architectural Plan of UU-GNA. . . . . . . . .275
            The Suppressive Regime of UU-GNA. . . . . . . . .277
            An Alternative: Neutopian Transversity . . . . .279
            Student-Teacher Relationship. . . . . . . . . . .281
            The Mission of Neutopian Transversity . . . . . .282
            The Neutopian Administration. . . . . . . . . . .286
            Architectural Plan of the Neutopian Transversity.287
            The Neutopian Rituals . . . . . . . . . . . . . .290
            ===============================================================
            "My own approach has been to try and seize various "net kooks" and
            their ideologies for myself, to take certain terms, push their
            ideology to absurdity and also try to mix in some serious thought
            in the mess. The "neu neu topian" movement has been flaring
            sparodically in alt.cyberspace for a couple months now and though
            it is in a low point (we are trying to integrate after success),
            fragments of interest to this group to remain. Check Paul Wolf,
            Glass, Paul Murphy, James McGowan, Earl Dombrowski and myself
            for relevant articles (though not all are relevant). Also look
            for threads containing "neu" and "buttons". Mythical organizations
            such as the "knight templar" and "Illuminati" along with various
            theories are all attempts to create pseudo idea systems which
            battle across the net.

            In regards to conventional "neutonians", you must divide into several
            subsets. The only "classical Neutopian" appears to be Libby Hubbard
            herself. If taken as a satirist (which I strongly suspect), she is
            at points brilliant and she does have a capacity to press certain
            "buttons". There are a number of unassociated people with an obsession
            about Libby who have been given a purpose in life by her ramblinga
            and finally there are the "monster truck neutopians." The quality of
            these people vary, though some are educated. A few weeks back, I
            attempted to engage them in a pseudo religious war with little response
            and finally silence. I'm afraid alt.society.neutopia has been disrupted
            by the event and a new force known as "Mother Foundress" has moved in
            to fill the vacuum. We are still evaluating the results of this
            experiment and the process is in a lull.

            Those in this alt.memetics who are interested in acting out actual
            events of idea conflict might create pseudo neutopian ideologies
            or anti neutopian ideologies and move them to alt.society.neutopia.
            We can then act out aspects of Minskys "society of minds". The
            cross posting of such threads is quite welcome in alt.cyberspace
            because a number of our readers don't get alt.society.neutopia.
            The goal is satire and absurdity with a serious edge.

            - Doctress Chen -"

            maxwell.lucifer.com/virus/alt.memetics/anti.neutopia.html
            wink

      • jenisiej SAVEtheWHALES 17.02.04, 22:18
        Cachalot (sperm whale) - large whale with a large cavity in the head containing
        spermaceti and oil; also a source of ambergris.
        ________

        One toothed whale, the sperm whale, sometimes known as a cachalot, is quite
        large: the male grows to a length of 18.3 m (60 ft), and the female grows to a
        length of 12.2 m (40 ft). It was heavily hunted in the past.
        ...
        These unusual sensory abilities of whales have given rise to considerable
        speculation as to their intelligence. Cetaceans, in fact, are the only animals
        (other than the elephant) to possess a brain larger than a human does. For
        example, the brain of an average adult sperm whale weighs 9 kg (20 lb); of an
        elephant, 4.5 kg (10 lb); of a bottle-nosed dolphin, 1.7 kg (3.75 lb); and of a
        human being, 1.35 kg (3 lb). The significance of this brain size in terms of
        intelligence, however, is not known. In captivity, whales and dolphins show
        considerable capacity for learning and a well-developed sense of play and
        caring for others; but because it is extremely difficult to observe cetaceans
        in their natural state, little is known of their social interaction and
        communication in the wild. Some species exist for the most part as solitary
        animals, whereas others occur in family groups or in pods or schools that range
        from six or seven to hundreds of individuals. Killer whales exhibit a high
        degree of cooperative hunting, an activity that would indicate active
        communication among pod members. Despite much popular writing about the
        cetacean "language" and attempts at human-cetacean communication, such claims
        remain unproved.
        ...
        Half of all whale species can be considered rare as opposed to endangered; that
        is, individuals of such species are not (and perhaps never were) very numerous.
        Many of the unusual beaked whales fall into this category. Most of the
        commercially valuable whale species, however, are indeed endangered. These
        include the blue, sei, Bryde's, fin, bowhead, humpback, and right whales and
        many stocks of sperm whales. They are endangered as a result of overhunting, to
        the point that the animals killed outnumber the animals being born. If
        unregulated whaling continues, these species will be wiped out entirely; the
        numbers of some of them are perhaps already so low that they can never recover.
        ...
        Whales can endanger themselves when they become stranded on beaches as they
        cannot live long out of water. They may overheat or drown when the tide comes
        in and covers their blowholes. It is not fully understood why whales swim on to
        beaches but it has been suggested that a failure in their echolocation
        signalling can be caused by disease or parasites in the whales' ears.
        • drf Re: SAVEtheWHALES& Post-Traumatic Gazette 18.02.04, 01:52
          PTSD: What It Is and How to Recover
          Text of First Issue of
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          ©1995 by Patience H. C. Mason. All rights reserved, except that permission is
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          text is reproduced unaltered and entire (including this notice)
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          STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: The Post-Traumatic Gazette is a newsletter for all trauma
          survivors, from veterans to rape victims, earthquake survivors to prisoners of
          war, their families, friends and therapists. It is dedicated to the idea of
          healing one day at a time from experiences which forever change a person's view
          of the world.

          This first issue is intended to set out a healing perspective on PTSD which has
          developed from my own experiences and from the work of respected professionals.
          In this perspective we see trauma as the problem, and PTSD reactions as
          creative and life-saving solutions to the problem of trauma. They worked. The
          survivor is alive.

          We believe it is normal to be affected by trauma, there is help, and it is okay
          to ask for help. PTSD is not rare. It is not unusual. It is not weak to have
          PTSD. It is normal to be affected by trauma. We can't repeat that too often.

          Traumatic experiences bring to the fore survival skills which are valuable and
          useful at the time of the trauma, but which usually become less valuable, less
          useful and less effective with time.

          We believe that survivors become stuck in problem behaviors when their pain is
          not acknowledged, heard, respected, and understood. Denial plays a great part
          here (didn't happen/ shouldn't affect you). Putdowns, dismissal of their pain,
          misdiagnosis and other forms of secondary wounding keep survivors stuck.

          Recovery is a slow process which doesn't come easily or painlessly. The
          survivor must be heard, feel understood, and reconnect to a community. The
          Gazette is aimed at helping to form such a community. Recovery takes time. The
          survivor sets the pace. Recovery is not a race, and recovery doesn't erase the
          trauma as if it had never happened. Trauma will always affect survivors. PTSD
          symptoms may come back under further stress, but the negative effects can be
          minimized as the survivor learns what they are and feels empowered to take care
          of him or herself. True healing is knowing it is okay to ask for help again.
          Rather than trying to put trauma behind us and forget it, I believe in another
          deeper kind of healing where we never forget, where we keep the memory alive of
          what happened to us and to others and we use our knowledge to keep traumatic
          things from happening to others. We also reach out, acknowledge the pain of
          other trauma survivors and encourage them to talk. We can make a difference.

          This perspective also emphasizes that survivors and family members and
          therapists are human and are doing the best they can. Recovery is about
          learning better ways and letting go of fear, even fear of change. Slow growth
          is good growth.

          This perspective differs from the sometimes still prevalent attitude that
          trauma couldn't affect a really well balanced person and also from the hurry up
          and get it all out so you can get well school of treatment. Respect for the
          survivor is implicit in this perspective. We don't rush survivors and we don't
          dismiss their pain. Instead of comparing pain, survivors and survivor groups
          are encouraged to respect each other's pain and to focus on what they have in
          common and to share recovery. Each person's unique experience and pain is
          respected.

          In this perspective we also acknowledge the pain of the families of trauma
          survivors which often develop ineffective patterns as they try to cope. We seek
          to create a caring community of people who have been affected by trauma and
          share information on how to heal one day at a time.

          The PTG would like to know what you--survivors, family, friends and therapists--
          have found helpful in your recovery work. If you send in a letter that I
          publish, you will recieve a year's free subscription. I hope the PTG will be
          packed full of stuff which will be helpful to every reader. Other goals of the
          PTG are:

          To work towards a more scientific diagnosis of Post Traumatic reactions based
          on observation of what is traumatic and on all the trauma related behaviors of
          people who have been traumatized,
          To provide new information on the treatment of PTSD and up-to-date sources of
          good information on safe and effective help
          To illuminate the connection between PTSD and substance abuse and compulsive
          behavior.
          To raise public awareness of the epidemic of PTSD and it's enormous cost to
          society in rising rates of violence and substance abuse.
          To discuss implications of the intergenerational transmission of PTSD in
          professions, families and cultures.
          To develop public policies which will be helpful for trauma survivors.


          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

          www.patiencepress.com/samples/1stIssue.html
          PS; Wyglada na to iz Trauma jest kolektywna..crying

          pozdrawienia dla Helgi
          • patience Re: SAVEtheWHALES 18.02.04, 08:22
            > pozdrawienia dla Helgi

            hejsmile
            • patience Zaproszenie 19.02.04, 17:49
              dla drf jest w skrzyneczce.

              Zalecam waleriane najpierw, hihiiiiiiii.
              • Gość: drf Re: Zaproszenie IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 23:11
                przeslij na link specjalny
                titta@chello.se

                ====================

                jakas rewelacja ?
                • patience Re: Zaproszenie 19.02.04, 23:22
                  Poszlosmile)))
                  • Gość: drf Re: Zaproszenie IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 23:59
                    On February 19, 2004 at 8:05 am, cierpliwosc wrote:
                    SZYBKA CIERPLIWOSC JESTES

                    wink))

                    (((D-: W pas big_grin)))
                    • patience Re: Zaproszenie 20.02.04, 00:03
                      Gość portalu: drf napisał(a):

                      > On February 19, 2004 at 8:05 am, cierpliwosc wrote:
                      > SZYBKA CIERPLIWOSC JESTES
                      >
                      > wink))
                      >
                      > (((D-: W pas big_grin)))


                      calusek na dobranocsmile))))))))))
                  • drf * 20.02.04, 00:30
                    community.webshots.com/s/image9/3/59/14/112935914ODmMhj_ph.jpg
                    • Gość: .:. ************************************************** IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 00:59
                      community.webshots.com/photo/112935848/119597311lZRQza
    • Gość: Przyjaciel zydow AQUANET TO SUPER POST IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 18.02.04, 22:48
      • drf IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 18.02.04, 23:05

        "Przyjacielu" z Kanady :No i czemu przypisac taka nagla zmiane pogladow ?

        Out of the closet ?

        wink
        • Gość: fj [...] IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 18.02.04, 23:52
          Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.
          • patience Telus? 19.02.04, 00:05
            Musisz sie poprawic. Porzadny antysemita sie tak nie zachowuje. "Zyklon" sie
            miesci jak najbardziej w twoim wizerunku, ale zaczepki celem nawiazania dialogu
            juz nie. Albo zyklonuj, albo dialoguj.
            • drf Re: Telus? 19.02.04, 00:56
              patience napisała:

              > Musisz sie poprawic. Porzadny antysemita sie tak nie zachowuje. "Zyklon" sie
              > miesci jak najbardziej w twoim wizerunku, ale zaczepki celem nawiazania
              dialogu
              >
              > juz nie. Albo zyklonuj, albo dialoguj.
              ===========================================

              Masz racje Helga , cos tu nie gra tylko co ?

              Jak na Naziste Telus ma zupelnie inne problemy...
              • patience Re: fight, flight and freeze 19.02.04, 07:48
                Many trauma survivors appear to reenact their traumas, self-mutilating, getting
                themselves into the same type of trouble over and over, or doing to others what
                was done to them. These behaviors probably serve the same unconscious purpose
                of speaking the unspeakable.

                Symptoms may come on soon after the trauma or fifty years later. That is the
                post in PTSD. It is normal for symptoms to come up again in the face of further
                trauma and in times of high stress. It is normal to be affected by trauma. 17 %
                of the teenagers in Detroit have diagnosible PTSD according to one study.




                Mourning has five stages:

                Denial: is screaming "No! No!' at the time of the trauma. It is also "Never
                Happened!" and "Didn't affect me!" People can get stuck in denial for years.

                Rage: People get stuck in the rage stage, too, screaming and lashing out at
                everyone around them, or coldly angry and unable to change.

                Bargaining: Stuck bargaining includes veterans who will only get well if the VA
                gets perfect or if Nixon or Fonda goes to jail, the child abuse survivor who
                will only get well when patriarchy is gone, or the survivor who will only get
                better when he or she finds a perfect therapist.

                Sadness: The sadness stage is very difficult for most survivors because of our
                feelgood culture. Being sad is practically illegal. Sadness refused leads me to
                deep depression, but today if I start to feel depressed, I ask myself what do I
                need to feel sad about. If I can identify and feel it, I don't get depressed.
                Sadness needs to be felt. What happened to you was sad, painful, grevious. The
                only way out is through. Those feelings won't kill you. It is okay to grieve.
                Grief is part of life.

                Acceptance: The final stage. Yes this did happen. It was bad and it has
                affected me. I have a scar, but I survived. In time, I may be able to use my
                experiences to help other survivors.
          • drf Re: IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 00:41
            Gość portalu: fj napisał(a):

            > jude psie ryje !!!!
            >
            > zyklonem zbirow poczestuje u mnie 'na przyjeciu'
            ======================================================
            No coz teraz jestes soba...crying szczekasz jak maly lepperek...crying

            a tak prywatnie musisz mnie lubic ,skoro sie za mna od lat uganiasz...wink

            =======================================================================

            Chcesz porozmawiac na serio ?

            Co ci te zydy zrobily ?

            drf





    • drf Telusiu !Twoj repertuar intelektualny wskazuje na 19.02.04, 02:24
      powazne uszkodzenie umyslu...crying
    • sanatorium_psychiatryczne JAK ROZPOZNAWAC UFOLI ? 19.02.04, 02:39
      UFOnauci maja brzydki zwyczaj wysylania na Ziemie swoich szpiegow i
      sabotazystow. Szpiedzy ci mieszaja sie z ludzmi i zbieraja dane o naszej
      cywilizacji, aby potem moc lepiej nas eksploatowac. Aczkolwiek az kilka
      odmiennych ras UFOnautow wysyla na Ziemie swoich szpiegow, najczesciej mozna
      spotkac szpiegow i sabotazystow z rasy UFOnautow ktora jest najbardziej z nami
      pokrewna, a stad najbardziej podobna do ludzi. UFOnauci tej rasy sa niemal jak
      my - ktos moze z nimi rozmawiac lub nawet sie przyjaznic i wcale nie wiedziec
      ze ma do czynienia z UFOlem.
      --


      ufonauci.w.interia.pl/


      ©
    • Gość: mis kolargol zyd ze szwecji IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 02:54
      autor watku: 4_4_4_4_4_4_4_ lub ________________________________,
      lub @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

      MOWI O INTELEKCIE !!!!!!!!

      Kretynie pejsiasty, slyszales kiedys taka angielska maxime :
      "Never underestimate your enemy" ?
      • sanatorium_psychiatryczne BARANOICZNY YNTELEKTUALISTO ... 19.02.04, 03:20
        Mescy UFOnauci faktycznie sa impotentami i aby odbywac stosunki seksualne, w
        swoich penisach musza nosic specjalne struktury usztywniajace. Ich impotencja
        wynika z owego niskiego poziomu ich uczuc (tj. nie sa w stanie osiagnac owego
        wysokiego poziomu podniecenia jaki dostepny jest dla ludzi). Jej opis rowniez
        zawarty jest w owych podrozdzialach M9.5 i E7.1 z [8]. Owa plastykowa struktura
        usztywniajaca zawarta w penisach UFOnautow odczuwana jest przez gwalcone przez
        nich ziemskie kobiety jak rodzaj zimnej chrzastkowej rurki.
        6. UFOnauci brutalnie eksploatuja i okradaja ludzi na tysiace odmiennych
        sposobow. Przykladowo, od kazdej osoby na Ziemi rabuja oni szczegolny rodzaj
        energii, zwany energia zyciowa. Opis specjalnej komory zimna za pomoca jakiej
        owo rabowanie energii zyciowej od ludzi sie odbywa, przytoczony jest w
        traktacie [3b]. Od kazdej tez osoby na Ziemi rabuja oni sperme i owule. Potem z
        owej spermy i owule przemyslowo klonuja oni swoich sluzacych i robotnikow
        zwanych biorobotami. Podczas rabowania ludzkiej spermy i owule, zwykle tez
        gwalca swoje ofiary. Praktycznie to niemal kazda osoba na Ziemi jest gwalcona
        przez UFOnautow na jakims etapie swojego zycia. Jak rozpoznac ze pada sie
        ofiara owych gwaltow opisane jest w owym podrozdziale U3.7.1 z tomu 15
        monografii [1/4].
        7. Obecnosc niewidzialnych UFOnautow we wlasnym mieszkaniu daje sie wykryc np.
        za pomoca zwyklego pilota do telewizora. Metody i sposoby odkrywania nalotu
        niewidzialnych UFOnautow na nasze mieszkanie opisane sa w podrozdziale U3.8
        tomu 15 monografii [1/4], oraz w podrozdziale E6 tomu 4 monografii [8].


        ufonauci.w.interia.pl/
        ==========================================================


        NEVER OVERSTIMULATE YOUR ENEMY
    • Gość: mis puchatek Gdyby II WS,zakonczyla sie w 1947, Delphinarium... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 03:01
      rzezi w Delphinarium by nawet nie bylo.
      Nie byloby zamachow na autobusy w izraelu, nie byloby palestynskich zamachowcow.
      Malo tego, Hamas nawet by nie istnial.

      • sanatorium_psychiatryczne Re: Gdyby II WS,zakonczyla sie w 1947, Delphinari 19.02.04, 03:37
        GDYBY ...ADOLF SZTICKELGRUBER HITLER dostal prace jako scenarzysta opery
        wiedenskiej a SOSO DJUGASHVILI skonczyl seminarium duchowne w Gruzji ...

        wink
        • sanatorium_psychiatryczne ALTERNATYWNA HISTORIA 19.02.04, 04:15
          www.ahtg.net/alterframe.html"
          Sir!

          I'm no New Aryan but I have to add these small comments to your Hitler as
          Artist page. I met 'der fuhrer' about three years before his famous suicide.
          The Eagle's Nest was the product of his final commercial success.

          It was a grand , imposing, and (to this observer) sterile architectural
          schema conceived by one of his late lovers...(Speer?). I was, none the less,
          moved by the mans very presence. He had that unsmiling seriousness that comes
          from either true genius or true psychosis.

          Judging from his suicide and his contributions to the arts its likely a
          combination of the two. I addressed him formally as 'Der Furher!' and he barely
          showed evidence of my presence. I then told him, 'Sir! Your works have caused
          and uproar in Bavaria and now I will speak to you as a Bavarian!' His eyes
          flashed and he turned to me with that hard gaze that has melted many a
          pretentious young bourgeois girls heart but then it softened and he invited me
          in to his study for coffee and cakes. His constitution by that time was weak.
          Its amazing to say but he ate only nuts and a salad while I guzzled good German
          coffee and chocolates.

          He smiled frequently, a twinkle in his eye and admitted that he understood
          the common mood. 'Herr Beethoven knew how to move a crowd too' he said, 'I make
          love to the people, they are like a women, I give them what they want and...',
          he paused and looked lovingly on his famous 'Kristallnacht' painting...'they
          give me what I want!'

          He finished with a sigh of almost sexual release. 'You see, I find the
          masses horrid. They know only sheer emotion, sheer terror. But terror has its
          uses... yes... its uses. I can tell you that a true artist knows how the crowd
          thinks. What the crowd believes on an unconscious level and...' he sipped at
          some English Tea here, ' and the true artist knows how to satisfy the crowd,
          make the crowd scream for more and keep coming back to the only lover that can
          satisfy!'

          Why did Hitler confide these things to me, a Bavarian chicken farmer? I
          suspect he saw in me the appreciation for his 'world view' as the Americans put
          it. Someone who knew what he intended and could make it happen, could carry out
          the ultimate end, the master stroke, the final solution if you will of his
          grand schemes that came from the tortured soul of one who knew suffering as no
          effeminate Hemingway every did.

          When Mein Furher took his life I felt a part of myself die. You don't know
          the power or the passion of the man or his great plans. Having met him I feel
          as if something is missing now that he has left us. What might have been? What
          glory could have been?

          Alas the once Germanic neighborhood I returned to has become a gathering for
          the filthy Slavic Hordes. I return to my chickens, a wiser but sadder man for
          having met the one man who could have made a real difference in the world.
          Imagine there's no heaven and we must live in the hell of his absence! I still
          have one of his last works.

          The bold "Band Of Brothers!' painting with its steely eyed young men, the
          eye of the beast in them ,with the breathtaking black and silver double
          lightning bolts behind them, marching to a new war that never happened,
          avenging the losses of the Great War and making a New Germany. Alas, all we
          have now is the memories. What could have been!

          Yours Very Truly,

          Heinrich Himmler

          66 Swatchstrasse

          Ravensbruck
          "
    • drf Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 09:32
      Posluchaj Przemysl i Odpowiedz

      ===========================================

      www.ncptsd.org/video/rm_5k/sg_speech.rm
      www.ncptsd.org/video/rm_5k/hope_for_recovery.rm
      www.ncptsd.org/video/sat_change.html
      www.ncptsd.org/video/sat_trauma.html
      ===============================================
      • Gość: PILES Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 09:39
        sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram.

        • patience Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 09:46
          Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a):

          > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram.
          >
          Otworzysz. It takes time.
          • Gość: misio peesio Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 09:51
            patience napisała:

            > Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a):
            >
            > > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram.
            > >
            > Otworzysz. It takes time
            ---------------------------------

            nie otwieram nigdy linkow do multimedia.NIGDY.

            inne linki, owszem , czasami, ale bardzo rzadko, i jesli juz to tylko od osob
            ktorym ufam. a wam swinskie ryje nie musze chyba mowic co o was mysle.

            DEATH TO FUCKING ZIONIST SCUMBAGS
            • patience Re: Telus : info Tylko dla Ciebie... 19.02.04, 13:48
              Gość portalu: misio peesio napisał(a):

              > patience napisała:
              >
              > > Gość portalu: PILES napisał(a):
              > >
              > > > sorry, linkow nigdy nie otwieram.
              > > >
              > > Otworzysz. It takes time
              > ---------------------------------
              >
              > nie otwieram nigdy linkow do multimedia.NIGDY.
              >
              > inne linki, owszem , czasami, ale bardzo rzadko, i jesli juz to tylko od osob
              > ktorym ufam. a wam swinskie ryje nie musze chyba mowic co o was mysle.
              >
              > DEATH TO FUCKING ZIONIST SCUMBAGS


              Przynajmniej bys nie wybrzydzal.
              • Gość: FRIEND OF HAMAS RADIOAKTYWNY SZTORM ZALEJE LATRYNE izrael IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 16:29
                po sztormie zydy beda sie swiecic jak lampki na choince
                • Gość: drf Lękasz się więc że TEN SZTORM zakończy NASZE IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 16:55
                  Re: RADIOAKTYWNY SZTORM ZALEJE LATRYNE izrael

                  Gość portalu: FRIEND OF HAMAS napisał(a):

                  > po sztormie zydy beda sie swiecic jak lampki na choince
                  ========================================================
                  Lękasz się więc że TEN SZTORM zakończy NASZE życie .
                  Twoje i Moje i TO FORUM ...?

                  Ja tez sie tego obawiam...

                  Nie mozna sie ciagle czegos bac , trzeba miec tez jakies pozytywne mozliwosci..
                  Dla rownowagi...Nieprawda ?


                  • Gość: LONG LIVE HAMAS Wdziek i Podziekowanie dla bohaterow Hamas IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 17:13
                    ZA WOLNOSC WASZA I NASZA
                    • Gość: LONG LIVE CIA Amerykanie moga cie potraktowac na serio ..;( IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 17:25
                      z drugiej strony podziwiam twoja odwage cywilna
                      determinacje w walce i wytwalosc
                      mimo iz jestes moim wrogiem

                      ZA WOLNOSC OD STRACHU !

                      drf
                      • Gość: dedjus Amerykanie moga pocalowc mnie w pupe IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 19.02.04, 17:37
                        • Gość: drf ok... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 17:46
                          w koncu doszlismy do celu...

                          ide teraz na przechadzke...

                          do uslyszenia



                          drfZydSzwedzki
                          wink
    • Gość: IMU LIFE ISRAEL LIFE IS*REAL IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 20:27
      ©BLESSOMEBODY
    • Gość: WORLD IS*RAEL I AM IS*REALIST IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 19.02.04, 23:02
      IDD-ISH
    • patience Re: CIEMNE 20.02.04, 09:43
      Gość portalu: 666 napisał(a):

      > LUCYFER


      ... piwo w skrzynce.

      Aniolek
    • patience PRZEGRALES Z KRETESEM 20.02.04, 13:14
      KONKURENCJE Z JOZEFEM ZAWADZKIM. NAGRODE POCIESZENIA WYMYSLIMY POZNIEJ.
    • Gość: drf CA NADA HOW R U ??? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 13:25
      helga cie lubi
      ludzie sa rozni
      zawadzki jest polRoku
      a TY misiu jestes od niego
      starszy i powazniejszy
      z michnikiem nie zadzierasz
      tylko jestes SOBA

      to nie jest konkurs
      z nagrodami
      prawda ?

      zawadzki jaroslawianin
      a ty z queBecku ?
    • Gość: drf obrazek taki sobie... IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 14:22
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      www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/
      www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html
      www.air-photo.com
      pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/
      www.pixi.com/~bewise/
      www.flinet.com/~politics
      link~~~~.html
      204.94.67.40/a.cgi?D13303304

      LEICHEN.HTM
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html

      LINKS.HTM
      www.alquds.org:80/www/zionism/zionism.html
      flashback.se/~rislam/english/revision/zion.htm
      www.codoh.htm

      MEDIA.HTM
      sobran.html
      sobran2.html
      news.html

      MEMORY.HTM

      MYTHIC.HTM
      soap.html

      NAZI.HTM
      hitlmarx.html
      platform.html

      NEVER.HTM
      treb.html
      amount.html
      coke.html

      NEWS.HTM
      sobran.html
      ihr50.html

      NIZ.HTM

      NIZGAS3.HTM
      gassing.html
      www.almanac.bc.ca
      degesh1.html

      NUMBER.HTM
      caveman.html

      ORDERS.HTM
      history.html
      eastern.html

      PHYSICAL.HTM
      asked.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      hugdef.html
      leichen.html
      leichen.html

      PLATFORM.HTM

      QUOTES.HTM

      REVISION.HTM
      hugdef.html
      ../mgiwer/hebrews.html
      hugdef.html

      RUSSIAN.HTM

      SEARCH.HTM
      witness.html
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      SIMON.HTM

      SKEPTIC.HTM
      russian.html
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      SOAP.HTM

      SOBRAN.HTM
      control.html

      SOBRAN2.HTM

      SSPUB.HTM
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      STORYTEL.HTM
      eastern.html

      TIMELINE.HTM
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      TREB.HTM
      timeline.html

      TRIALS.HTM

      TSTADT.HTM
      hugdef.html

      VIETNAM.HTM

      VRBA.HTM
      eastern.html

      WASH.HTM
      caveman.html

      WIESEL.HTM

      WITNESS.HTM
      history.html
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      WORSE.HTM

      WRITERS.HTM
      hilberg.html
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      vrba.html

      ZION.HTM
      ==================================
      zawadzki jest nauczyciel
      a ty masz wlasna firme

      moze sobie po imieniu powiemy...?
      jak wrog do wroga wink

      drf


    • Gość: reBe666 i to bylo na SZAbes ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 20.02.04, 16:09
      a gdzie BLOgoSLAWIEnstWA ?

      Brahe odwalaj jak TRZRZEBA !!!

      czegom cie od lat ucze ???

      POkoRY !!!

      Ty na wieki zostaniesz MOIM

      antySEmitem...wink)))

      NieCH Bedzie PochwalONy !!!

      zaraz zapadnie zmrok...

      lepszy jestes niz zawadzki...

    • patience MIX CEDREFS UNIVERSALIS 20.02.04, 17:52
      I. MIX
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10838840&a=10895524
      II. MIX CEDREFS UNIVERSALIS
      forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10838840&a=10896267
      • Gość: drf Q nada? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 25.02.04, 02:19
        bejsment ci zalalo ?
        krew cie zalewa?
        wojo krzywo na cie patrzy?
        sasiad omija?
        ===========================
        wniosek cierpisz na nadmiar wolnosci !!!
        wyboru rodzajow mydla...czy gatunkow skory...

        LEKARSTWO ROZWOLNOSCI
        GnoisieSzybkoPlynnieiWduzychIlosciach...wink))

        ochomikach.w.interia.pl/biegunka.htm
    • jenisiej --------------------------2500-------------------- 20.02.04, 20:47
      Ha!

      pozdro
      jeni
      • patience Re: --------------------------2501--------------- 20.02.04, 23:44
        No niestety. Byles szybszysmile
    • Gość: <©> --------------------}3Ci3D{------------------ IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 01:52
      }3©D3
      }comandControlCenter
      }Dim3iD3TIME3
      }model01PROtoTyP
      }inteGraly,potNcja,omniP,silnia!!!
      }3NiXeny#3MiXniki#3ZWCKIprdx
      }c.b.d.o
      }tunelSierpinskiego-Helgi.Drf.Ceska...vecToR
    • Gość: hi_men : --------------------}3Ci3D{------------------: IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 02:21
      nsb.ptc.pl/~mce/jaro/tok.htm

      HOW R U ?
      2DAY ?
      dRf
      good_morning !-)
    • Gość: JOZEK (reMIS) IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 03:06
      dedjus_inbeysmnt 3Ci3D-: hi_men• Re: miss--}3Ci3D : -
      • BUDABELZYD*ISRaELfUCKsU •YEbAL 4444444 kg PRO TEST
      CZLO=Z=Y=D.OW=WIEK=PIES

      XENO ?

      helga co to oZnacza w Twojej TeOrii ?
      zwcki=telus?

      co na to ces?
      jenisiej?
      mixnik?
      Mosad i MoCzar ?

      nsb.ptc.pl/~mce/jaro/tok.htm

    • Gość: * *©*©* * H:.:|V|.:.R IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 18:43
      Waves crashing on a beach. Woodpeckers peck-peck pecking. Whales calling
      plaintively across the sea.

      These are the sounds of Jupiter.


      science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/images/radiostorms/audio/story.m3u
    • Gość: . ZDECYDOWANIE ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 20:52

      informacje specjalne
      ==========================
      wysylaj na titta@chello.se
    • Gość: * SAME ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 21:39
      titta@chello.se
    • Gość: "|||" KUPIC ? IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 21:45
      The Bat
    • Gość: SAD WPADLES;) IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 22:36
      jestes w sieci ...
      wink))
    • Gość: Justitia w procesie przeciwko dedjusowi IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 21.02.04, 22:49
      wszeto sledztwo...

      sedziaSaduNajwyzszegoForum:alef1
      =================================
      info dla: scana jeni cesa helgi jozka
      polecenie dla giwi : ip ,interPol
      ...................................

      koniec informacji
      dedjus: it'real !



      • alef1 kontrola de dj usa 21.02.04, 23:07
        pan jeni zawezwany jako expert specjalny
        ----------------------------------------
        *
        • jenisiej Re: kontrola de dj usa 22.02.04, 15:43
          alef1 napisał:

          > pan jeni zawezwany jako expert specjalny
          > ----------------------------------------

          forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=13&w=10885672&a=10923314

          pozdro
      • alef1 (-?minusWOJO?-) 22.02.04, 17:39
        *

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