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IP: *.czes.gazeta.pl 25.06.04, 20:42
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    • braineater Re: Bakunowy faktor 25.06.04, 21:39
      Koniecznie! Natychmiast! - wygnać rodzinę na 3 dni z domu, zaparzyć wiadro
      kawy, przygotować fajki i nocnik i bez zwłoki zabrać się do lektury jednej z
      najcudowniejszych powieści XX wieku. Gdy przeczytasz już te ca. 900 stron to
      będziesz wiedział na co poleciała Pocahontas i do czego nadaje się niejadalne
      warzywo oberżyna; zmienisz swój obraz Isaaca Newtona wykreowany przez
      zafałszowane podręczniki fizyki; dowiesz się jak kupuje się kraje i jak się je
      traci, a także odkryjesz na czym polega klasyczny indiański pojedynek. I
      jeszcze - będziesz wiedział na czym polega tajemnica nauczania jakiegokolwiek
      przedmiotu (sam ją zresztą stosuję z powodzeniem prowadząc korepetycje:),
      nauczysz się jak zachować dziewictwo w najgorszych nawet okolicznościach, a
      także, być może, zapragniesz zostać poetą laureatem, co wbrew przesądom, nie
      jest takie trudne i wymaga bardziej szczęśliwego trafu niźli szczególnej weny
      poetyckiej. No i poznasz i polubisz takie niesamaowite postacie jak Henry
      Burlingame czy bezimienny towarzysz kapitana Johna Smitha - a więc - rączy bieg
      do biblioteki i szybki powrót, by cieszyć się lekturą...
      Pozdrowienia:)
    • Gość: kornik Re: Bakunowy faktor IP: *.czes.gazeta.pl 29.06.04, 18:49
      Dzięki, to jest zachęta, ale czyżby nikt inny nie czytał tej książki?
      • Gość: haiko Re: Bakunowy faktor IP: 81.15.254.* 29.06.04, 22:17
        o mało egzaminu nie zawaliłam przez tę książkę, gdyz jest gruba a tknęłam się
        jej w czasie sesji.
        polecam gorąco-taka nowczesna wersja "Kandyda" tylko że o Ameryce, bardziej
        rubaszne i z przymróżeniem oka. Nie do podrobienia.
        Może ktos przy okazji potrafi odpowiedzieć, czy to był taki jednorazowy błysk
        geniuszu autora, czy jestcos jeszcze warte równej uwagi
        • Gość: Nu! Re: Bakunowy faktor IP: *.gce.gliwice.pl 01.07.04, 11:42
          Napisał oczywiście.
          Moim zdaniem najleszpa to "Koniec drogi" - książka niegdyś
          kultowa i toptrendy. "Sabbatical" - dobrze się czyta.

          Barth, mojem zdaniem, to idealna lektura dla licealistów - humanistów.
          Pokazuje, uświadamia umowność tekstu literackiego.
          "Literatura polska" jest pisana z patosem i serio, tymczasem
          Barth kontynuuje jakby anglosaski, główny w istocie dla literatury, sposób
          pisania fabuły, uwypuklający autora i fikcyjność postaci.

          Nawiasem mowiąc Masłowska "wychowała się" na Barthcie. Ale chyba pisze lepiej
          niż Barth :)

          Ciekawe są jego eseje o literaturze, programowe i nie tylko.
          "Literatura wyczerpania" to klasyk.


          Oto przewodnik dla początkujących, który gdzieś znalazłem:

          "[...] BARTH FOR BEGINNERS

          Start with "The Sot Weed Factor" (1961). This frenetic mock-18th century tale
          abounds in heroes, villains, fools, plots, counter-plots and, above all, humour.
          A word of caution: if you can't handle the vastness here then give up now
          because you have just dicovered Barth is not for you and probably never will be.
          But I was fortunate. I read this book by accident back in the mid-60s while
          listlessly seeking a remedy for ennui, and was forever hooked.

          Proceed now to "Giles Goat Boy" (1967). If you are under the age of 40 first
          watch a few old newsreels or movies to get the feel of the Cold War days. And
          contemplate some photographs of JFK and the lovely Jackie. At first glance this
          story seems as different as can be from TSWF, but absurdism and surrealism are
          taken to even dizzier heights without ever coming close to losing the reader

          By now I was such a devoted Barthite I was compelled to track down his two
          earliest published works, "The Floating Opera" (1956) and "The End Of The Road"
          (1958). And I was disappointed by these slim novellas with their curiously flat
          and rather unpleasant 50s feel. Nevertheless they remain recommended reading
          since their protagonists resurface in later stories, are much fleshed out
          therein, and become far more complex, interesting and entertaining. But I doubt
          if many Barth fans would return to these books except under extreme academic duress.

          There follows something of a fallow period, we now know not unconnected with
          Barth's own life problems. He sets aside the preparation of his largest, most
          ambitious work so far and chooses instead to publish "Lost In The Funhouse"
          (1969) and "Chimera" (1972). These are fscinating volumes, but for very
          different reasons. LITF is my least favourite Barth book. Apart from a few
          exceptions such as "Ambrose His Mark" and "Menelaiad" it is pungent in
          self-pity, misanthropy and black despair; albeit heavily and rather badly
          disguised by an overly self-conscious "postmodernism" (other people's
          phraseology). As indicated, I think it is a great mistake that this uneasy
          volume has been hijacked by academics: it is atypical, a blind alley, and it
          leads thank goodness nowhere. Insights to the psychopathology of depression have
          been done before, and since, and better.

          John Barth at Washington College, 2002.

          "Chimera" marks a return to form (psychologists will easily discern a change for
          the better in Barth's mental health and emotional fortunes) with a brazen foray
          into mythological constructs. Three tales here: one is a variation on the
          Scheherezade theme (to be expanded magnificently in a later book); the others
          are fabulous, impertinent and hilarious takes on classical Hellenic figures.
          This book indicates his direction from now on; and scholars, I think, should
          take more notice of it than LITF. This one very cleverly leads somewhere worthwhile.

          But 1980 is THE glory year, for that is when "Letters" is published. Critics
          with inelastic minds have complained that this masterpiece is virtually
          unreadable, but "Letters" in my opinion is Barth's pinnacle, and subsequent
          books don't quite match up to it (I hope JB never reads this). For me it has
          personal significance. Professional preoccupations had seen me drift away from
          Reading As Pleasure; but I vividly remember the sultry sweaty night I was
          driving out on yet another duty errand when the radio excitedly blurted ' ...
          Barth is published, and the Word is ... "Letters"!'

          I know of nothing in modern western literature quite like "Letters". It wasn't a
          commercial success, but surely that says something about the taste of the
          reading public; or the influence of literary critics; or both. In this
          sprawling, astonishing, delighting saga Barth cruises quite extraordinary
          altitudes in human imagination and English language usage. Characters from
          previous fictions are worked up, over, out; all in outrageous fashion. David
          Edelman found this story "tedious" and I feel appropriately sorry for him.

          OK. Next comes "Sabbatical" (1982), first in a series of yarns set mainly in a
          boat, on the water, and about a loving couple (this theme becomes persistent -
          vide infra). For me the hero is rather less Barthian than we might have
          expected, and I find him a trifle awkward, But perhaps that's just me. There
          might be more of the author in the lady of the boat. And Barth is now healed
          enough to incorporate some of the experiences of his first marriage without
          splashing around too much blood.

          But "The Tidewater Tales" (1987) seems to be the book that "Sabbatical" was a
          trial piece for. Its' big, complex, enchanting, mysterious. Barth also makes
          quite heavy commentaries on matters ecological and political, but these lose
          some of their impact on a non-American lke myself who has never clapped eyes on
          the Chesapeake. This story might also tempt you to take a serious look at some
          of Barth's own favourite authors, just as a bonus.

          It gets every bit as good when "The Last Voyage Of Somebody The Sailor" (1991)
          turns spacetime inside out more slickly than science fiction ever did, and our
          author/hero re-engages with Scheherezade, often in arousingly earthy ways.
          Again, Barth weaves in titillating autobiographical wisps and threads to produce
          a tale that's tough, poignant, and one to keep coming back to.

          The best piece of advice in "Apocalypse Now" is 'Never get off the #%*&@! boat!'
          Well we haven't, and we've just reached "Once Upon A Time" (1994). I like this
          story very much, perhaps because it seems more autobiographical than any other,
          and every dedicated reader loves to imagine that he is seeing something real, if
          only a glimpse and a carefully controlled one at that, of his favourite author.
          If such touches are meant to be touching, well ... they succeed. There are some
          barefaced, intimidating and almost arrogant exercises of the wordsmith's skill
          in this book, but in the end you are again left bound as much to the author as
          the narrative.

          "On With The Story" (1997) is the final volume so far, a clutch of short fiction
          pieces. I haven't yet read it - I haven't been able to obtain a copy! I live in
          Australia. We fervently hope and quite reasonably assume that there aren't any
          great similarities with LITF.

          I haven't mentioned "The Friday Book" and "Further Fridays" on purpose. Barth as
          academic, historian, critic or social commentator is always good value. But
          Barth as Author is simply peerless.

          Now, it is a melancholy fact that time and circumstance erode the personal
          library; and moreover many Barth books are currently out of print. But the Baby
          Boomers are beginning to die off and their collections are already turning up in
          secon-hand bookstores. That's how I keep my shelves re-stocked.

          Oh. And I got almost all the Pynchon that way too.

          Mal McCormack
          Melbourne
          Australia"
          • broch Re: Bakunowy faktor 01.07.04, 14:22
            "Bakunowy faktor" stal sie popularny wsrod polskich nastolatkow, gdy leader
            "Republiki" zaczal powiesc wychwalac w wywiadach. Dawne czasy, sadze ze ksiazka
            zostanie z kazdym kto ja czytal, mozna siegac do dowolnych rozdzialow i miec
            fantastyczna zabawe. Radzilbym signac tez (wlasnie z okazji jak to sie mowilo
            "Bakunowego faktora") do "Tristrama Shandy" Sterne'a. Tylko przedluzy
            fantastyczna zabawe.
            Bardzo lubie "Listy" nawet jesli sa "nieczytelne". Pseudoegzystencjalny "Koniec
            drogi" mnie rozczarowal. "Zagubiony w wesolym miasteczku" i "Chimera" sa
            zdecydowanie warte czytania. "The Last Voyage Of Somebody The Sailor" nie mialem
            niestety okazji przeczytac choc zajzalem do srodka i powiesc zapowiadala sie
            interesujaco.
            Krotko mowiac Barth jest warty czytania. Moje ulubione to wlasnie "Bakunowy
            faktor", "Letters" i "Chimera"
            Milego czytania
    • Gość: Nu! 2 linki IP: *.gce.gliwice.pl 01.07.04, 11:57
      Oryginalny tekst Ebenezera Cooka:
      www.uoregon.edu/%7erbear/sotweed.htm
      "Click" Bartha on line:
      www.tnellen.com/cybereng/barth.htm

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