Nielegalni - swiatlo w tunelu i to nie lokomotywa.

[jj19]

Witajcie,
Dzisiejszy The New York Times na stronie A 30 podaje bardzo ciekawe
i optymistyczne dla Was informacje o ewentualnym udzieleniu formy
legalnego statusu okolo 8 - 12 mil nielegalnych.
Trzymam kciuki za powodzenie planu,
pzdr.

[Gość: hodowla-genesis]

A może więcej szczegułów. Kto i co,kiedy/oczywiście w planach. Pozdrawiam Ania

Wiecej szczegolow.

[jj19]

Witaj,
Obecna Administracja rozwaza jednorazowo zalegalizowanie pobytu wszystkich
nielegalnych w Stanach. Przed jedenastym wrzesniem podobna sprawa
miala dotyczyc tylko nielegalnych immigrantow z Meksyku.
Teraz rozwaza sie zalegalizowanie pobytu wszystkich. W gre wchodzi wydanie
zezwolen na prace i wydanie prawa jazdy. Nie wchodzi w gre obywatelstwo.
Informacje te pochodza od sekretarza bezpieczenstwa narodowego Tom Ridge`a
na spotkaniu z mieszkancami Miami we wtorek.
Pzdr.

[Gość: hodowla-genesis]

Dzięki. Ja dopiero chcę tam pojechać i sama nie wiem zostać nielegalnie i
czekać na amnestię czy (jak moja mama, obywatel USA złoży papiery) czekać
legalnie powyżej 5 lat na pobyt. Jak zostanę nielegalnie to zamknę sobie drogę
do sponsorowania przez mamę (tak słyszałam), i jak amnestii nie będzie to
bieda, a jak będę przedłużać legalnie wizę lub zmienię jej status( na studencką
lub pracowniczą) to amnestia mnie nie obejmie. Co robić???

Inaczej mówiąc

[matrek]

Chciałabys wyjadać ze słoika konfitury i nie umoczyć palców ?
Tak sie nie da niestety, to wymaga podjęcia decyzji w jedną albo w drugą strone
i podjęcia ryzyka.

[Gość: hodwla-genesis]

Jak ma się 20 lat i całe życie przed sobą to można spokojnie czekać, jak się ma
50 to można zostac nielegalnie bo emeryturę i tak będzie się brało w Polsce.,
ale jak ,ma się 37 to nie wiadomo co robić. Nielegalnie znaczy że emerytury się
nigdzie nie wypracuje. Czekać to znaczy wyjechać po 44 roku życia i co robić
już na miejscu, kto Cię zechce do pracy. Czasem decyzje nie są takie oczywiste
i proste.

kielbasa wyborcza

[jot-23]

Ridge Favors a Status Short of Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants
By PHILIP SHENON

Published: December 11, 2003


WASHINGTON, Dec. 10 — Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge has called for
millions of illegal immigrants in the United States to be given some sort of
legal status short of citizenship, a proposal suggesting that the Bush
administration might revive an ambitious legalization plan that was
sidetracked after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In comments on Tuesday at a town hall meeting in Miami, Mr. Ridge said, "The
bottom line is, as a country, we have to come to grips with the presence of 8
to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way."

Mr. Ridge, who became the government's chief spokesman on immigration issues
after his new department took control over immigration policy this year, said
the government might consider legalizing the status of illegal immigrants
already in the country on a one-time basis.

Do "Then, as a country, you make a decision that from this day forward, this
is the process of entry, and if you violate that process of entry, we have
resources to cope with it," he said in response to a question from the
audience at Miami-Dade Community College about his support for changes in
immigration policy.

Aides to Mr. Ridge said that his comments were not scripted and not formally
approved by the White House but that they reflected a growing view in the Bush
administration that the federal government needed to find a way to register
illegal immigrants, if only for reasons of national security.

Brian J. Roehrkasse, Mr. Ridge's spokesman, said, "The secretary acknowledges
that we have several million people here illegally, and he understands that
for homeland security reasons, at some point in time, there needs to be a
better way to identify those who may be a threat to our country."

Before the Sept. 11 attacks, the administration had appeared eager to reach
agreement with the government of President Vicente Fox in Mexico on a plan to
provide legal status to millions of Mexicans illegally in the United States, a
proposal advocated largely on economic and humanitarian grounds.

The administration's enthusiasm for the proposal evaporated after Sept. 11,
when the attention of law enforcement and intelligence agencies turned to
blocking illegal immigrants from entering the United States and finding — and
often deporting — those who were here.

In his comments in Florida, Mr. Ridge said that the issue of legalization
needed to be revived and that the government would need to find a way to
provide some sort of legal protection to people who entered the United States
illegally. He insisted, however, that the protections would not included
citizenship.

"I'm not saying make them citizens, because they violated the law to get
here," he said. "So you don't reward that type of conduct by turning over a
citizenship certificate."

He offered no details on what sort of legal status might be offered to the
immigrants, although administration officials have previously suggested that
illegal immigrants might be granted work permits and provided with drivers'
licenses.

Mr. Ridge's comments were welcomed by immigrant-rights groups. Jeanne
Butterfield, executive director of the American Immigration Lawyers
Association, said his remarks were "a good step forward," adding "It's a
signal that we can come back to the table and talk about what is realistic."