M. Sc.

[anutka1]

Mam pytanie - jak w USA jest traktowany stopien magistra inzyniera - nabyty
ma na polskiej technicznej uczelni, na studiach magisterskich- na angielsko
jezycznej stronie AGH nazwane jest to M.Sc - co oznacza Master of Science
Degree - zastanawiam sie czy to na pewno znaczy to samo co w USA.
Czy gdy pisze w CV Master of Science Degree - bede dobrze zrozumiana? Nikt
nas o takich rzeczach nie poinformowal na uczelni - gdy mielismy
przedmiot 'Jezyk angielski w terminologi zawodowej' profesor uzywal
stwierdzenia ze nabedzimy Master of Science Degree.
Jesli ktos ma wiedze na ten temat to prosze napiszcie.
Dzieki

[xjkw]

W USA jest troche inny system niz w Polsce.

Podstawowe studia - undergraduate - trwaja zwykle 4 lata i absolwent dostaje
stopien Bachelor of Science. Wiekszosc na tym konczy.
Niektorzy ida jeszcze do 'graduate school' na 2 lata i koncza z Master of
Science. Albo robia doktorat i dostaja PhD.

Tak wiec polski magister to cos posredniego miedzy Bachelor i Master.

Z drugiej strony, nawet na studiach politechnicznych ('enginnering') wymagane
jest wziecie wielu (30-40%) przedmiotow pozazawodowych (humanities, social
sciece itp), tak wiec polski magister inzynier 'zaliczy' znacznie wiecej
zawodowych przedmiotow, niz amerykanski Bachelor; prawie tyle samo co Master.

Wydaje mi sie, ze spokojnie mozesz napisac w resume (w USA tak sie mowi na CV),
ze masz MSc. Pracodawca moze sie najwyzej zdziwic, dlaczego studiowalas tylko 5
lat. Mozesz mu wtedy powiedziec, ze to byly polaczane studia BSc i Msc. Takie tu
tez istnieja, ale rzadko.

Nie slyszalem jeszcze o przypadku, by pracodawca zadal urzedowego poswiadczenia
dyplomu, albo nawet jego okazania; piszesz ze masz, to masz. A jak sklamalas, to
cie najwyzej pozniej wyrzuci.

[peter2715626]

xjkw napisał:

> Tak wiec polski magister to cos posredniego miedzy Bachelor i Master.

Dlatego czesto w roznych krajach anglojezycznych przy tlumaczeniach lub ocenach
polskich dyplomow magister tlumaczy sie na "at least bachelor".

[anutka1]

Dzieki za odpowiedz

>Mozesz mu wtedy powiedziec, ze to byly polaczane studia BSc i Msc. Takie tu
> tez istnieja, ale rzadko.

Masz na mysli ze w USA istnieja rzadko?
Ja wlasnie takowe mam (tzn. za niecaly miesiac) - uzyskam tytul mgr inż.
(kiedys bylo tak ze po 3,5 latach był sam inż. a potem mgr inż. - - ale teraz
jest po 5 latach mgr inż.)

Pozdrawiam

[anutka1]

up

[Gość: NYorker]

A w jakiej dziedzinie ten inzynier ?

[anutka1]

geodezja i kartografia (specjalnosc - fotogrametria teledetekcja i GIS)

American Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sen

[rollingstone]

Przegladnij sobie strony:

www.acsm.net/cagis/CaGISCareerWeb/t_of_c.htm
www.acsm.net/cagis/CaGISCareerWeb/careers/01private.htm
www.asprs.org/
www.asprs.org/membership/certification/appendix_b.html

Master of Science degree in Applied Geography

[rollingstone]

Pisz Master of Science degree in Applied Geography.

Ponizej znajdziesz adresy szkol i dyplomy jakie oferuja w USA

gis.gradschools.com/
programs.gradschools.com/usa/geographic_information.html
"Higher Education

More than 800 colleges and universities offer courses in geographic information
systems. These are usually offered through the Geography Department. An
increasing number of community colleges and technical colleges offer two-year
associate degrees in mapping, surveying and GIS skills. These programs are
designed to train students in such areas as data gathering, digitizing, or
other forms of map preparation and editing.

Most jobs in cartography and GIS, however, require a bachelor's or master's
degree in cartography, geography, or some area of civil or surveying
engineering. Other disciplines such as forestry, geology, landscape
architecture, environmental engineering, urban or environmental planning,
transportation planning, and public administration now offer course work in
GIS. With a bachelor’s degree, one can expect to obtain an entry-level position
working as part of a group that produces maps or performs GIS functions. With
experience, employees can expect more responsibilities and will be able manage
projects. Individuals with master’s degrees are often expected to assume
considerable responsibility as soon as they are hired. They may be given their
own projects to manage. In some smaller organizations, they find that they are
expected to design and implement new procedures and systems...."

"....GIS specialists, cartographers, and remote sensing analysts work in a
variety of organizations ranging from local, state, and Federal government
agencies to small private companies as well as large corporations. At the
Federal level, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, United States
Geological Survey, Bureau of the Census, Environmental Protection Agency,
Bureau of Mines, and Central Intelligence Agency all maintain large
cartographic, remote sensing and GIS facilities. Such facilities are also found
in many other Federal agencies. Most states have major cartographic and remote
sensing centers associated with their departments of transportation and
environmental conservation. At the local government level practically every
community must deal with mapping land use changes, street conditions, property
lines and a great many other items related to the operation of a community. In
the private sector hundreds of small mapping and surveying companies exist
working a variety of jobs. Large corporations such as AT&T, IBM and Xerox use
mapping and GIS systems to solve some of their problems. For example, AT&T
employs GIS technology to identify the location of every telephone within a
community as part of its 911 system. Most utility companies need elaborate
mapping systems to manage their hundreds of miles of power lines and remote
sensing techniques to determine if they are meeting environmental regulations.
Railroads and air lines use GIS technology to map the movement of their trains
and planes. Many retail and service organizations use maps to determine markets
and select store locations. As we enter the Information Age, a great number of
organizations have found maps the best way to store and present information key
to their operations and with the power and speed associated with computer
technology and the great number of locationally referenced data bases these
organizations have turned toward GIS to handle many of their problems."

[anutka1]

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