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IP: 207.7.192.* 23.11.04, 20:59
12-Year-Old Boy Held in Double Slaying


MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) - A 12-year-old boy was being held Tuesday in the shotgun
slayings of his grandmother and aunt at a rural home, deputies said.

Nancy Tidd, 61, and Emma Tidd, 40, each were shot in the head with a shotgun
Monday, the Washington County sheriff's office said.

Washington County Prosecutor Michael Spahr said he would charge Christopher
Sturm with juvenile counts of delinquency by murder and delinquency by
aggravated murder. A 12-year-old cannot be tried as an adult in Ohio.

Deputies said Christopher, who was in juvenile detention, told relatives he
shot the women.

``From the information we have, the boy was upset at the grandmother, and that
led to the shooting,'' detective Jeff Seevers said.

Investigators said the boy divided his time living with his mother and
grandmother. He was found at his mother's home about six miles away in Lower
Salem, 90 miles southeast of Columbus.

The grandmother was unable to defend herself because of a medical condition,
and there was no sign of a struggle, Seevers said.

The bodies were discovered by a relative who went to the house to check on the
two women.


11/23/04 14:23
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    • Gość: ABE Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowania IP: *.directories.co.nz / *.directories.co.nz 23.11.04, 21:07
      w US.

      "From the information we have, the boy was upset at the grandmother, and that
      > led to the shooting,''
      No i co w tym dziwnego. Jezeli Panstwo w ktorym ten chlopiec zyje daje mu
      wlasnie takie wzorce do nasladowania. Czy to nie US bedac "upset with"
      niegrzecznym Afganistanem czy Irakiem za drobna odmowe wpolpracy, co
      doprowadzilo do rozwalenia obu krajow w puch, mord ich ludnosci i totalne
      zniszczenie ich domow, to co tu sie dziwic malemu Amerykanowi jak sie
      zdenerwuje na babcie czy mame, ze ich ich zastrzelil. I tak mialy szczescie, ze
      ich nie torturowal, nie spalil ich domu rodzinnego i nie paradowal ich szczatek
      po ulicach Marietty.
      • Gość: kuk Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: 207.7.196.* 24.11.04, 00:41
        tak, prosze Pani.

        narod ten na pierwszy rzut oka zdaje sie byc jak inne. Dwie rece, dwie nogi....
        Tylko jesli zaczniesz wchodzic w realia dostrzezesz,ze ludek ten nosi w sobie
        jakis rodzaj bakcyla. Bojki na piesci koncza sie smiercia, akademickie parties
        (hazing,- cos w rodzaju polskich studenckich otrzesin z dodatkiem
        nitrogliceryny) zmuszaniem do picia alkoholu az do smierci ofiary, dzieciaki
        faszerowane drugami na uspokojenie, syndromy, bulimie i nad tym wszystkim unosza
        sie diabelskie psychiatrysty, counselory manipulujace ten ludek w obled. Ten
        narod niema duszy , zato wypelniony duma (ja, amerykan) i prymitywnym
        patriotyzmem, ktory jest tak wspaniale manipulowany przez mafioso w rzadzie.
        takie sa wyniki dopuszczenia do wladzy tych z bylego sojuza, z Polski....,
        ktorzy tak doskonale znaja metody rozpieprzenia narodow by rzadzic.
        • Gość: Domestic Bagdad 3 Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: 207.7.196.* 24.11.04, 01:36
          jeszcze jeden mazur dzisiaj....


          Texas Severed Arms Case Similar to Others

          By LISA FALKENBERG
          DALLAS (AP) - When a mother admitted killing her baby daughter by severing the
          child's arms this week, she joined a high-profile list of Texas women with
          histories of mental illness who have killed their children in gruesome fashion.

          The state has had at least four similar cases in recent years. Andrea Yates
          drowned her five children in the family's Houston bathtub in 2001. Deanna Laney
          bashed her three sons' skulls with rocks last year, killing two and maiming a
          toddler. She said God told her to do it.

          A mother from suburban Dallas drowned her daughters last fall, and a woman in
          Brownsville is accused of helping her common-law husband behead her three children.

          In all the cases, the women had some sort of mental illness in their past.

          Though the killings have been brutal, legal and psychiatric experts say such
          cases are no more common here than in other states.

          They note that several factors have caused Texas to get more attention on the
          issue, including intense media coverage following the Yates case that may have
          created an illusion that Texas has more mothers killing children.

          ``Texas seems to be a lightning rod,'' said George Parnham, the Houston attorney
          who defended Yates. ``I don't necessarily go with the idea that we're wackos
          down here.''

          Dena Schlosser, 35, was charged with capital murder Monday after calmly telling
          a 911 operator that she had cut off the arms of 11-month old Margaret. Police
          found Schlosser sitting in her living room, covered in blood, a church hymn
          playing in the background.

          Schlosser had a history of postpartum depression, a disorder that can occur in
          women after they give birth.

          Her mental history and her 911 confession are similar to Yates. And the method
          Schlosser used shared the bizarre, brutal nature of Laney's rocks and Yates'
          systematic drowning.

          ``To actually sever the arms suggests something special was going on,'' said
          psychiatrist Phillip Resnick, who testified in the trials of Laney and Yates.
          ``It suggests on its face that there was some specialized psychotic thinking,
          but you just don't know.''

          Yates, who had a history of schizophrenia and postpartum depression and said the
          devil prompted her to kill her kids, was convicted of capital murder and is
          serving a life sentence. Laney was acquitted of capital murder by reason of
          insanity after psychiatrists agreed psychotic delusions kept her from knowing
          right from wrong.

          Authorities discovered a grisly scene at the Schlossers' apartment.

          An officer had to remove a knife from Schlosser's hand, according to a search
          warrant affidavit released Tuesday. The baby was found in her crib, both arms
          severed at the shoulder, and died at a hospital a short time later.

          Authorities said the two older daughters in the family, ages 6 and 9, were at
          school when police arrived, and that their father was at work.

          Schlosser had been investigated on child-neglect allegations this year, but
          Texas Child Protective Services had recently closed a seven-month investigation,
          concluding that Schlosser did not pose a risk to her children.

          The severed arms case will certainly add to the media attention on the issue.
          But DePaul University law professor Michelle Oberman, who has written
          extensively on mothers who kill their children, said Texas may be bringing some
          of the attention on itself with the way it prosecutes such cases.

          ``It gears up the criminal justice system for a death penalty prosecution,
          rather than approaching the cases as instances of profound mental illness,''
          Oberman said.


          11/23/04 17:38
          • Gość: ABE Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: *.directories.co.nz / *.directories.co.nz 24.11.04, 01:40
            Po pierwszym paragrafie, tego nie moge czytac. Jesli chodzi o cierpienie dzieci
            to po prostu nie moge
        • Gość: ABE Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: *.directories.co.nz / *.directories.co.nz 24.11.04, 01:39
          No i przy tej degeneracji moralnej, twierdzi sie jednoczesnie, ze wybrano Busha
          ze wzgledu na przywiazanie Ameryki do wysokich wartosci moralnej.
          To takie same wartosci w jakich wychowano uczniow-Rambo w Columbine, czy tego
          malego pomocnika Snipera.
          Hipokryzja, czy hipokryzja?
          • Gość: kuk Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: 207.7.201.* 24.11.04, 02:24
            ABE, wez mnie na NZ. mam strasznie dlugi nos, po malej przerobce mozna go
            zmienic w dziob kiwisa. Tak wiec, nikt nie bedzie mnie musial zywic. Sam sobie
            znajde w tych mrocznych, nowozelandzkich lasach jakas glizde podziemna.

            Mysle, ze NZ tez ma pewne problemy socjalne, ale nigdy nie na taka skale, not so
            brazen and vicious.

            A jak te wyspy, czy jeszcze sie trzesa? Pamietam, jak w Auckland nagle ziemia
            pod stopami zaczela mi lekko falowac. Jakby Ziemia zaczela oddychac
            • Gość: ABE Re: Wszystko zgodnie z prawem i wzorcami zachowan IP: *.directories.co.nz / *.directories.co.nz 24.11.04, 02:35
              He, he, jako kiwi bylbys pod ochrona. I glizd u nas pod dostatkiem.
              Ja spie jak susel i nie czuje jak sie cos trzesie, ale chyba nie jst tak zle.

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