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10.12.04, 13:49
W maju b.r. ukazał się w Jerusalem Post wywiad z prof. Arnonen Sofferem (z uniwersytetu w Haifie), należącym do ścisłego kręgu doradców premiera
Szarona. Soffer przedstawił w wywiadzie apokaliptyczny scenariusz rozwoju sytuacji po jednostronnym wycofaniu się Izraela ze strefy Gazy. (Język tej wypowiedzi jest dla mnie osobiście przerażający, ale nie o to w tym momencie chodzi.)
< How will the region look the day after unilateral separation?
The Palestinians will bombard us with artillery fire - and we will have to retaliate. But at least the war will be at the fence - not in kindergartens in Tel Aviv and Haifa.
Will Israel be prepared to fight this war?
First of all, the fence is not built like the Berlin Wall. It's a fence that we will be guarding on either side. Instead of entering Gaza, the way we did last week, we will tell the Palestinians that if a single missile is fired over the fence, we will fire 10 in response. And women and children will be killed, and houses will be destroyed. After the fifth such incident, Palestinian mothers won't allow their husbands to shoot Kassams, because they will know what's waiting for them.
Second of all, when 2.5 million people live in a closed-off Gaza, it's going to be a human catastrophe. Those people will become even bigger animals than they are today, with the aid of an insane fundamentalist Islam. The pressure at the border will be awful. It's going to be a terrible war. So, if we want to remain alive, we will have to kill and kill and kill. All day, every day.
While CNN has its cameras at the wall?
If we don't kill, we will cease to exist. The only thing that concerns me is how to ensure that the boys and men who are going to have to do the killing will be able to return home to their families and be normal human beings.
What will the end result of all this killing be?
The Palestinians will be forced to realize that demography is no longer significant, because we're here and they're there. And then they will begin to ask for "conflict management" talks - not that dirty word "peace." Peace is a word for believers, and I have no tolerance for believers - neither those who wear yarmulkes nor those who pray to the God of peace. There are those who make pilgrimages to the Baba Sali and the tombs in Hebron, and those who make pilgrimages to Kikar Rabin in Tel Aviv. Both are dangerous.
Unilateral separation doesn't guarantee "peace" - it guarantees a Zionist-Jewish state with an overwhelming majority of Jews; it guarantees the kind of safety that will return tourists to the country; and it guarantees one other important thing. Between 1948 and 1967, the fence was a fence, and 400,000 people left the West Bank voluntarily. This is what will happen after separation. If a Palestinian cannot come into Tel Aviv for work, he will look in Iraq, or Kuwait, or London. I believe that there will be movement out of the area.
Voluntary transfer?
Yes. And Gaza is going to be such a disaster that it will be beyond our capacity to help. There will have to be large-scale international aid. The US will have to pressure Egypt to cede land. And - though I never thought I'd hear myself say this - Israel will have to relinquish the Jordan Valley.>
Całość tego wywiadu pod:
www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1085023337456&apage=1
I teraz pytanie, które proszę potraktować poważnie.
Wywiad został przeprowadzony przed zejściem Arafata ze sceny politycznej. Czy wg Was możliwy jest rozwój sytuacji inny niż wg scenariusza zarysowanego przez Soffera? Biorąc z jednej strony pod uwagę, że już obecnie większość (nieznaczna, ale zawsze) Palestyńczyków opowiada się przeciwko stosowaniu terroru jako broni w walce politycznej, z drugiej zaś -
